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I paid £4.49 for Diode 108 and it has gone [move along now, nothing to see]

This is increasingly occurring, and I can't say I ever got anything like £4.49 of value from it in the time I had it on my iPad, I just assumed I'd gain value from it later, when the time is correct for it and when I come back to it.

If this continues we should come to expect use-by dates on apps, so that we don't just buy them and store them until later, which I know many of us certainly do. When I did this I considered that I was 'investing' in some way, by getting an app on a sale price before it went full price, even if I didn't need or require it that particular minute. I'd come back to it later, and gain value from it in the future.

This was incorrect. Buying any app with an eye to using it tomorrow is clearly a huge mistake. I think this has sealed my future attitude to buying iOS apps - I simply will not be buying any further apps, at all. Unless I particularly feel the need for one, for something I'm creating or putting together or composing, at that particular time. In which case, I'll pay full price, and buy it, and nothing else - and in all likelihood, it'll be a rare purchase. My future app purchases are going to follow that pattern - only buy when I absolutely need it, ignore all sale and promotional prices, and we'll see how many I really do 'need' after all.

Clearly buying apps is just like buying milk or yoghurt - it'd be stupid to invest in it up to the capacity of your fridge, and because it might be on a sale price one week doesn't mean you don't buy it as regularly as you want it, all the other weeks when it is not.

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  • Do you mean to say it has actually diappeared from your purchased list?

  • Indeed, it seems to be gone from my Purchased List too. I wonder if a developer can make it reappear by updating to 64 bit, or that it is completely erased from existence by Apple...

    In their communication to devs Apple suggested that they would merely remove the app from the store for new customers, but removing it from people's purchased lists is quite a brutal and unexpected step.

  • edited February 2017

    Absolutely true, I once thought I will not buy any app without AB, then IAA, then Link, now I've added program change, a perfect midi implementation, and also the need of it.
    I check first with the hundred app I have...But I also see some incompatibility issues between apps...
    In the meantime it's also nice to test lots of things directly at some point...

  • Oh yes, and I was going to edit my post to add the final line:

    Pro platform my arse!

  • Same here :(
    Bastards.

  • Yikes. I have just spent a great deal buying apps for when I get a new iPad in the spring. Nervous.

  • Dang! So, if I backup right now to my desktop via itunes... everything on my iPad will be preserved and can be reinstalled even if Apple strips them from the app store?

  • Sometimes I feel that is only financial limitations that prevent me from going to a hardware synth (Moog) and that new iMPC thing with some other smaller goodies in lieu of ios stuff.

  • Klimper, Firo And Praxis beats machine are gone as well and certainly even more apps (to come).This AppStore is becoming a struggle for life .Day after day there are less and less apps.Only the strong 64 bits updated apps will survive .I have only bought the ipad last year (for a long term investment i thought ) and I feel so dumb buying so much musical apps now :(

  • edited February 2017

    As Apple took money (commission, whatever) for the purchase, I would assume (regardless of what they say) they have a responsibility for ensuring it is still available for download. Whether it works or not, or has been abandoned by the developer shouldn't be their concern, and after all some of us have older devices and operating systems anyway.

    They took the money, they need to provide the purchase. A few megs of storage space is hardly going to dent their profit billions.

    They''re not doing their brand any favours with the stuff they've been up to recently.

  • @grego68 said:
    Klimper, Firo And Praxis beats machine are gone as well and certainly even more apps (to come).This AppStore is becoming a struggle for life .Day after day there are less and less apps.Only the strong 64 bits updated apps will survive .I have only bought the ipad last year (for a long term investment i thought ) and I feel so dumb buying so much musical apps now :(

    And with that ALL storage due to growing app size making machines too small to be practical.

    Buy a new iPad sucker.

    Fuck them!

  • edited February 2017

    @RustiK said:
    Sometimes I feel that is only financial limitations that prevent me from going to a hardware synth (Moog) and that new iMPC thing with some other smaller goodies in lieu of ios stuff.

    My financial limitations allowed me a Korg Minilogue at least, and I can easily say that I prefer my top 4-5 iOS synths (Moogs, Fabfilter, iOdyssey) over it. If only I could get that Smith/Oberheim OB...but I can't justify the cost since I'm no longer making money off of music.

    As to the thread topic, this is infuriating. It hasn't happened to me yet, and at the end of the day my favorite apps are pretty much made by the big boy companies along with Auria, but removing them from your purchases seems almost criminal.

    Not defending the App Store in any way, but it DID seem Diode got abandoned very shortly after release, long before this debacle.

  • those apps are great, the minilogue is a beast as well though

  • It's bad Apple can do this (if it's them not the developer)

    They are trying to push their products as a service, you buy the machines and pay for a continual service of apps and their behaviour is enforcing this idea which isn't good for creatives. I'm going to have to make sure I back up all apps more often.

    They should be forced to send you the ipa file if you request it.
    Although I never read the terms and conditions. It probably now says that they own all our limbs and internal organs too.

  • Apple bastards could at least give an expiration warning on an app by app basis.

  • Must be a 'temporary' glitch as Diode-108 is still in my purchased list?!

    I treat cheaper apps as a bag of chips and not as an investments with life-time support...

  • @grego68 said:
    Klimper, Firo And Praxis beats machine are gone as well and certainly even more apps (to come).This AppStore is becoming a struggle for life .Day after day there are less and less apps.Only the strong 64 bits updated apps will survive .I have only bought the ipad last year (for a long term investment i thought ) and I feel so dumb buying so much musical apps now :(

    Firo is/ was 64 bit. It wasn't a 32 bit thing.

  • Diode 108 is (or was ) in the top five of the best drums apps.It was a dream Compared with the new drums apps ," drums pads machine 2 Pro version or z drums Pro 2 . This beginning of 2017 is really poor in term of quality ...

  • Ok so clarify please, will backing up to iFumes will for sure reinstall my apps even if they're not on the App Store?

  • The last update for diode was October 11, 2015. The cutoff for app updates with no 64 bit support was June 2015.

    Diode is/ was 64 bit as well.

    I could confirm later, pretty sure I haven't use diode in a really long time. (So if it's 32 bit I should get a warning)

    Whatever it's causing apps to drop from the store it's not (exclusively) because of 64 bit support.

  • I've still got it on my iPad, but it's not in my purchased list. Works without a warning, so I guess the developer stopped paying his Apple subs.

  • @Samu maybe you checked Diode108 on a 32bit device?

    @Diode108 we missed you!

  • @MonzoPro said:
    I've still got it on my iPad, but it's not in my purchased list. Works without a warning, so I guess the developer stopped paying his Apple subs.

    Is that an actual thing? Letting your annual dev cert or whatever it is lapse == pulled from sale? I really hope not. That would be complete horseshit.

  • @Korakios said:
    @Samu maybe you checked Diode108 on a 32bit device?

    As far as I know my Air 2(iOS10.2.1) is a 64-Bit device.
    And I checked the Swedish Appstore, it's there too.

  • Diode 108 is on my purchased list but when I tried to download it I got a message that said it was no longer available and did not download. iPad 4.

  • @syrupcore said:

    @MonzoPro said:
    I've still got it on my iPad, but it's not in my purchased list. Works without a warning, so I guess the developer stopped paying his Apple subs.

    Is that an actual thing? Letting your annual dev cert or whatever it is lapse == pulled from sale? I really hope not. That would be complete horseshit.

    it's been like that since the beginning of the AppStore.

  • edited February 2017

    @syrupcore said:

    @MonzoPro said:
    I've still got it on my iPad, but it's not in my purchased list. Works without a warning, so I guess the developer stopped paying his Apple subs.

    Is that an actual thing? Letting your annual dev cert or whatever it is lapse == pulled from sale? I really hope not. That would be complete horseshit.

    Yeah, $99 per year: https://developer.apple.com/support/purchase-activation/

    unless the app is free (but with IAP's)

    Still Apple's decision to remove downloads for existing purchasers though.

  • Gah. That is indeed total horseshit. I know about the dev program costs but that should be to push new content, not keep it in the store.

  • @MonzoPro said:

    Still Apple's decision to remove downloads for existing purchasers though.

    This is an important point here.Are you sure the apps should stay in the purchased list even after the dev cancelled his developer subscription?

  • @Crabman said:

    @MonzoPro said:

    Still Apple's decision to remove downloads for existing purchasers though.

    This is an important point here.Are you sure the apps should stay in the purchased list even after the dev cancelled his developer subscription?

    I paid £4.49 and now have nothing. Were there only certain days I was supposed to be using this app?

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