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All these powerful synths have tradeoffs. In LayR, as noted, you can turn down amount of max layers. I normally run at 128 even though I have an iPad Pro, to keep some headroom. I hover 25% then. At 256 layers I'm usually at 40-50%. It stays at what it is though.
In Twin 2 I turn down amount of voices to what is needed, which takes some experimenting, as it fluctuates depending on the patch and what I play. Also if I run Timeless or Saturn I need to look very carefully at the settings, otherwise there will be crackles.
These are limitations of our devices though. With great power comes great responsibility.
sorry for the delayed answer (sleep), and very little knowledge on subtractive synthesis, however, as you said, they're somewhere in between these lfo's, envelopes & filters ... anyways, you can hear them here at my research point in the mighty LayR jungle:
Listen to Sequenced Birdies byCrz on hearthis.at
aided by FugueMachine and Auria Pro, soon by Quantum, cheers
Here are a handful of drone patches I made for LayR. Interested to see how this preset sharing works. The fact that we can, and for such an awesome synth is a great thing. I imagine there will be many presets made for this synth by a lot of users, so I wonder how some sort of database could be implemented as a central location to upload to. Any thoughts on this? And is there a better / easier way than the Box of Drop to share a folder of patches? I am also attaching a .ZIP file made in Audioshare with the same patches from the D-Box link.
LayR presets_001 Drones
Note: these patches were mostly built around specific notes or note ranges, which are listed in the preset browser "Notes" field for each patch. Mostly I just tap the sustain pedal and let them fester. Amazed at the textures and motion that can be had with this synth! Just scratching the surface of this vast world at this point.
You've reminded me how great Twin can be, but I've trended away from AP of late, and am using Modstep (when availing myself of the full roster of iOS stuff, rather than a self-contained set up like Caustic). (I suppose Modstep could host multi-out audio from Auria Pro with several instances of Twin...but that'd be a silly use of CPU).
Bought LayR of course, for both its synth stacking and multi-audio out multitimbrality. Very pleased with the purchase. Have put together 5 + channels of LayR inside modstep with additional stuff alongside, AUx and onboard synth, no wheezing or choking, likely this will depend as you say on chords, patches etc.
I admit LayR made me look - after purchase - at the other iOS stuff available to achieve synth stacking (SunVox, AUM, Caustic, FLSM) and multitimbrality...multimbrality exists adhoc in the multiple instances available via AUx, that is, via X instances of any of the fine AUx synths...as has been said around here many times, too bad Twin isn't standalone, and AUx. The advantage I see in LayR over multiple iSEM, for example is perhaps ease of cc access from a host, and ease of one synth interface for all channels rather than flipping among 5 synth instances...never tried 5 iSEM...
I've had quite a few fun sessions running multiple iSEM arp'S in AUM, solid as a rock too.
Which iPad are you on that LayR isn't taxing too much with 5 channels of? And, are these 5 separate performances of LayR in Modstep? Or, 5 layered, but separate instances of one performance into Modstep?
Listen to Sequenced Birdies byCrz on hearthis.at
Thats cool!
Can't figure out how to import these, but I agree that the future of this app (in many ways) is sharing the developed presets...
Thx a lot!
Here's the site's official preset hub http://www.livingmemorysoftware.com/joomla/index.php/hidden-menu-item/preset-sharing
For the ab forum, why not just start a new thread, brice?
gracias, amigo
@JohnnyGoodyear import the (zip) files to audioshare, then 'open in' single presets to LayR and tap save (located right next to the load icon).
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The thing with LayR is that it doesn't matter how many channels you use. It'll grab it's CPU depending on your maximum layer number and...well, that is it. If you then choose to split it to one combined stereo out, or to 8 channels, it'll make no difference to CPU usage, from LayR alone. You can of course start adding all kinds of weird stuff as effects to those multiple outs in, say, AUM et al, but that then becomes the added load of those effects. LayR has grabbed its part and holds on to it. No more, no less. This is also how it differs from for example Twin 2, where changing a preset/patch can increase/decrease CPU usage quite dramatically. Not so with LayR.
So, when you say you're running at 128 with your iPad Pro, and hitting the cpu at 25%... is 128 plenty for most mortals to play with? Or, do you really not even need that much? And, do you know if 128 hitting 25% of the cpu on an iPad Pro, means that it'll also only hit an Air 2 at 25% as well for the same setting?
Thanks Mister Boss....appreciate your nudge.
Once, ever, I have had to turn it up to 256 layers as I started losing notes. That was a wild wild preset though, literally unplayable, and a wonky idea of testing the limits and secondly trying to create something musical out of it, but which failed (at first because there wasn't enough voices available with 128).
I think you could think of the layers as voices in Twin 2 actually, because if you have say 10 layers for a preset and you press one note, it'll use 10 of your 128/256 pool. If you press 3 keys (a typical chord) you'll be using 10x3 out of your maximum pool. However, if you start triggering things that in themselves start looping or sustaining for forever (and thus "eating up layers"), and you press all the buttons on your keyboard, even the mighty 128/256 pool will run out (one of the things I had to test, of course).
I can give no estimates or guarantees for any device that isn't an iPad Pro 12.9, or iPhone 6S+ because I simply don't know and haven't tested.
Also, it should be noted that now we are probably talking about fringe cases, using up all the layers. There are some wonderfully beautiful presets that only use 1-3 layers and you'd have to be pretty wild on your keys to use up the pool then. Even when you start making good performance sets, split on the 8 audio channels, and you have 8 instruments with 1-4 layers each (on average), you wouldn't hit the roof with just normal synth sounds (as opposed to looping flowing drones x 8).
I think i'll use AP more and more after I get a new pro2 but usually I tend to use AUM most of the time too. I'm sure i'll get Layr as well, but fun to see how long I can hold out
Just tried reducing voices in Twin2 multi patches and get much better performance now. So I guess the performance isn't much different fom Layr? since before it was chokin g at (depending on the patch etc) 128 Twin 2 voices, but if I reduce that a bit and spread over more intances then you can get a lot of different Twin2 layers going on as well for very rich sounds.
Sounds about right. The only thing I've encountered prior to LayR that can do some of the things LayR offer indeed is multiple instance of Twin2 (albeit with Timeless added to the mix).
I think the main benefit of LayR for me personally is that I don't have to use Auria (I do love it, but not ideal for all situations) and the fact the workflow is so much simpler than loads of AU instances.
If you (as in "someone") are looking for "one one-page synth", LayR (with just one layer, i.e. one-page synth) is possibly not the most effective or unique solution in a rather saturated market with loads of options. For me though the unique selling point with LayR is what you can do with the combination of layers, splitting, workflows etc, not to mention the UI and the control I have over things. IMHO of course.
Yes I like the look of Layr and one of the things that puts me off using AP a lot is the gui, it really could do with a redesign making certain things more touch friendly, but the guts of it is very good of course. Layr has the advantage if you want to do more live playing and changing on the fly. Twin 2 is a little fiddly but great if you map the xy pads to a larger one like the one in LK.
I sense virtually through the intertubes that you're finger is inching ever so slightly closer to LayR buy button. You first! lol
Gonna grab the Twin2 Ambient presets to play with tonight and maybe keep sleepin on this one a bit more... I think
Here's a kwazy one: Viking, NS1, Poison-202, and Addictive Pro inside AUM with various fx, mixed down into one Modstep channel, alongside 4 channels of synths out of LayR, next to FM Ruismaker and Modsteps own onboard Synth.
Think I'm holding out pretty well so far
Since I bought another synth last night I think it's a bit to soon buy another so will probably be on the fence for a good while yet....
For all of us using iOS devices, we do have (free) access to iCloud, so even if we like it or not it can be a decent way of getting smaller files on to our devices. That obviously requires a way for you to put files into iCloud in the first place, but if you can do that, iCloud will work.
Some expectation management: I use all the cloud services, which includes iCloud. That means I have quite a bunch of files and folders in iCloud, where various apps make their automated backups etc. Due to Apples restrictions, each folder will be "out-folded" when you view iCloud. Therefore I created a folder named "_LayR" (without citation marks, but do note the underscore) to ensure I can reach it at the top of my folder tree. Within that folder I've created a subfolder called "Presets" and another folder called "Performances".
There is apparently a bug in LayR 1.0.2 which means "Open in..." from anything that isn't iCloud is quite likely not going to work. The dev is aware and a fix is making its way into 1.0.3. For now iCloud is the best way to get presets/performances in/out of LayR.
You can still import things into 1.0.2, but you need to use the documents picker from within LayR, when you click the iCloud icon (a little cloud), which is only enabled if you have iCloud enabled on your device.
I can export to non-Apple cloud sevices in LayR but haven't been able to import other than through Apple's iCloud which worked fine.
Actually glad to hear there's a bug, thought (inevitably) it was simple me...
Trying to work out another problem with LayR used in Cubasis. IAA does not allow recording of the main out. Only individual instruments. Trying to solve this with the developer on his forum presently. I'll keep you all posted if we get it fixed .
That forum is a tad strange in that it doesn't show comments in the same way, have you read the latest message? It is now marked "Solved" but it would obviously be good if you confirmed that.
If by solved you mean it can only record individual instruments but not the stereo mix it is solved. Otherwise as far as I can tell you have to assign each and every instrument in LayR to the proper channel in Cubasis which would be a major pain in the ass.
The output mix is only available in midis tracks I have been informed which of course is no help . I was also told the problem is on Cubasis end as a peculiar limitation they have imposed. Asking for clarification now.
Currently not having my iPad near, but I have recorded audio from the main out in AUM, so in that case it indeed sounds like some Cubasis specific issue.
It needs fixing, I do know that.
---> @Tritonman said:
Go and read what I said in the reply again Tritonman!
There is no restriction at all.
In LayR you can assign all instruments to just one output if you like. Seems to me you might be thinking you can only have one per output?
The issue is that Cubasis doesn't appear to look for AURI when provides you with the list of output from another app, therefore it is not giving you the choice to connect LayR's stereo out to an audio track ( you can only connect it to a MIDI track for some reason only known to the Cubasis Devs ).
The reason you can't hear anything is because you've connected one of LayR's (AURG) outputs to Cubasis, but in LayR you haven't told any instruments to send audio to that output.
Simples!