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This looks like fun: Layr

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  • @hellquist said:

    @Munibeast said:
    This looks like a great app for my soon to come EWI! Now if there was only the slightest bit of a discount...

    It is at a constantly discounted price already IMHO. ;)

    Regarding preset sharing:
    I will also be sharing my presets when I have something that is useful for someone who isn't me. LayR has made me learn loads (still learning though).

    Hey, I've been bugging the dev for an arp demo video, sort of breaking down how it works and what's possible. I thought you did a good job with your first video.. do you understand the arp function enough to do a demo yet? ;)

  • Just saw this from their FB page:

    https://www.livingmemorysoftware.com/joomla/index.php/layr-presets

    It's a preset download page from their Forum. Haven't checked them out yet, but I'm of the opinion that more presets is more better :smiley:

  • @hellquist said:

    @Munibeast said:
    This looks like a great app for my soon to come EWI! Now if there was only the slightest bit of a discount...

    It is at a constantly discounted price already IMHO. ;)

    Regarding preset sharing:
    I will also be sharing my presets when I have something that is useful for someone who isn't me. LayR has made me learn loads (still learning though).

    Right, it's probably worth it. I just don't have much left to spend and AB3 + Midiflow for AB3 and BM3 seem to be the most important things to get in the very near future...

  • A dubstep baseline 'performance' here with slightly different variation layers to solo, can get loud when tweaking the overdriven filter cutoff, beware ;]

  • While anticipating the update:

  • Wow what a beautiful preset thanks!

    @ccs2 said:
    While anticipating the update:

    @ccs2 said:
    While anticipating the update:

  • Can someone tell me if there is a global/ master tuning option i this app? Interested in buying it but im 432hz only.

  • @Gaia.Tree said:
    Can someone tell me if there is a global/ master tuning option i this app? Interested in buying it but im 432hz only.

    Yes, there is (432, 440, 442)

  • Thanks, @MusicMan4Christ, glad you like it.

  • @brice said:

    @Gaia.Tree said:
    Can someone tell me if there is a global/ master tuning option i this app? Interested in buying it but im 432hz only.

    Yes, there is (432, 440, 442)

    Wicked thanks!!

  • Does it have an "animoog-like" keyboard with polyphonic pitch for poly glides?
    doesn't look like it :neutral:

  • @stelvio said:
    Does it have an "animoog-like" keyboard with polyphonic pitch for poly glides?
    doesn't look like it :neutral:

    Not 100% sure I know what you mean, but I do know that LayR, unlike almost all other synths, have functionality that means if you play an "performance" that has, say, bass instrument, drony-chord-shimmer instrument, piano-ish instrument and then a lead instrument (which you could coax other synths to do as well of sorts), if you were to play all of those on one keyboard and you started pitch-bending in most other synths, the pitch bend would do its thing on all the sounds that are audible at that time.

    Not so with LayR. You can set off some really long sounds (bass, drone etc) down the keyboard and then let go (and they ring out, or sustain or however you wish to do your long sounds) and then you can play your lead on top of it, which will be ONLY thing affected by the pitch-bend. Take a chord (further down the keys), play your lead on top of it with pitch bend without bending the chord etc.

    So, in short, it only pitch-bends the notes you are actively currently playing. Pretty nifty I think, and it suits my playing style very well. To me this is a feature that I wish other synths would have.

    However, given how you've phrased your question, to me, it sounds like the opposite of what you are asking for though, but I could have misunderstood what you are wishing for.

  • Yeah I think this is one awesome feature that sets LayR apart but it's not easily seen or known unless the user plays a certain preset specifically designed in such a way. I really love this majestic mega synth! Just to be able to play it on my iPhone is unbelievable!

    @hellquist said:

    @stelvio said:
    Does it have an "animoog-like" keyboard with polyphonic pitch for poly glides?
    doesn't look like it :neutral:

    Not 100% sure I know what you mean, but I do know that LayR, unlike almost all other synths, have functionality that means if you play an "performance" that has, say, bass instrument, drony-chord-shimmer instrument, piano-ish instrument and then a lead instrument (which you could coax other synths to do as well of sorts), if you were to play all of those on one keyboard and you started pitch-bending in most other synths, the pitch bend would do its thing on all the sounds that are audible at that time.

    Not so with LayR. You can set off some really long sounds (bass, drone etc) down the keyboard and then let go (and they ring out, or sustain or however you wish to do your long sounds) and then you can play your lead on top of it, which will be ONLY thing affected by the pitch-bend. Take a chord (further down the keys), play your lead on top of it with pitch bend without bending the chord etc.

    So, in short, it only pitch-bends the notes you are actively currently playing. Pretty nifty I think, and it suits my playing style very well. To me this is a feature that I wish other synths would have.

    However, given how you've phrased your question, to me, it sounds like the opposite of what you are asking for though, but I could have misunderstood what you are wishing for.

  • edited May 2017

    @stelvio said:
    Does it have an "animoog-like" keyboard with polyphonic pitch for poly glides?
    doesn't look like it :neutral:

    Short answer: no. if you want more of that, Model 15.

  • Thanks for the detailed answers guys.
    Would be great to see a vid of this sort of playing style in action, with individual pitch per layer, that could be interesting live... or I'll just get it and try for myself :blush:

  • I saw now the roadmap in the LayR forum and it looks great. Especially MPE and microtuning would be awesome.

  • @stelvio said:
    Thanks for the detailed answers guys.
    Would be great to see a vid of this sort of playing style in action, with individual pitch per layer, that could be interesting live... or I'll just get it and try for myself :blush:

    There is a bit in this vid that shows Pbend on some but not all layers in a patch. You could like mentioned above split the keyboard so different layers in different key range or you cAn have all layers across whole key range but pbend only effect some layers but not others

  • edited May 2017

    @RedSkyLullaby said:

    @stelvio said:
    Thanks for the detailed answers guys.
    Would be great to see a vid of this sort of playing style in action, with individual pitch per layer, that could be interesting live... or I'll just get it and try for myself :blush:

    There is a bit in this vid that shows Pbend on some but not all layers in a patch. You could like mentioned above split the keyboard so different layers in different key range or you cAn have all layers across whole key range but pbend only effect some layers but not others

    Nice. Can you set different values for each layer on pitch bend? And can set different values for up and down?
    Or is it global?

  • @Cib said:

    @RedSkyLullaby said:

    @stelvio said:
    Thanks for the detailed answers guys.
    Would be great to see a vid of this sort of playing style in action, with individual pitch per layer, that could be interesting live... or I'll just get it and try for myself :blush:

    There is a bit in this vid that shows Pbend on some but not all layers in a patch. You could like mentioned above split the keyboard so different layers in different key range or you cAn have all layers across whole key range but pbend only effect some layers but not others

    Nice. Can you set different values for each layer on pitch bend? And can set different values for up and down?
    Or is it global?

    I believe the pitchbend is actually global for the performance and can be set in main settings up to -/+ 12. The way to get pItch variation different on each layer is to assign mod wheel (or any midi controller) to the pitch control in that layer (by long pressing on pitch knob). The range for how the assigned controller effects pitch can be variable for each layer so potentially you could have all kinds of odd pitching from one controller effecting multiple layers in different ways.

  • edited May 2017

    sounds amazing. still can't help wishing for an animoog/model15 like kboard for poly glides between notes or chords but Layr looks pretty amazing anyhow!
    so glad there are in depth tools for synthesis like this on IOS.

  • @stelvio said:
    sounds amazing. still can't help wishing for an animoog/model15 like kboard for poly glides between notes or chords but Layr looks pretty amazing anyhow!
    so glad there are in depth tools for synthesis like this on IOS.

    Can't you just use animoog as a keyboard ? I'm not sure I understand why you would need it inside layr if you already own animoog. Even model 15 can be used as a keyboard I think.

  • edited May 2017

    not sure what's hard to get there... poly pitch (MPE) is smth I enjoy very much and I'd like to be able to use such playing styles with Layr features... your confusion confuses me :wink:
    Playing Layr from Animoog or Model 15 wouldn't be MPE any longer?... but again, it was just a little wish, not a complain :) Layr being a forward thinking and smart synth, I couldn't help wishing it had the new MPE standard too...

  • @stelvio said:
    not sure what's hard to get there... poly pitch (MPE) is smth I enjoy very much and I'd like to be able to use such playing styles with Layr features... your confusion confuses me :wink:
    Playing Layr from Animoog or Model 15 wouldn't be MPE any longer?... but again, it was just a little wish, not a complain :) Layr being a forward thinking and smart synth, I couldn't help wishing it had the new MPE standard too...

    At least it´s on the road map. But that could blow cpu usage up a lot.
    I wish i had a Seaboard 5D midi out virtual keyboard. It´s brilliant.
    3D touch support is a must too for me (for iPhone at least).

  • @Cib said:

    @stelvio said:
    not sure what's hard to get there... poly pitch (MPE) is smth I enjoy very much and I'd like to be able to use such playing styles with Layr features... your confusion confuses me :wink:
    Playing Layr from Animoog or Model 15 wouldn't be MPE any longer?... but again, it was just a little wish, not a complain :) Layr being a forward thinking and smart synth, I couldn't help wishing it had the new MPE standard too...

    At least it´s on the road map. But that could blow cpu usage up a lot.
    I wish i had a Seaboard 5D midi out virtual keyboard. It´s brilliant.
    3D touch support is a must too for me (for iPhone at least).

    MPE is on LayR's roadmap. Model 15 doesn't currently support MPE for MIDI out, not sure whether it's officially on their roadmap1

  • There are a few apps with MPE midi out.
    I also have a Seaboard and MPE plus microtuning would be a big deal for me.

  • @Cib said:
    There are a few apps with MPE midi out.
    I also have a Seaboard and MPE plus microtuning would be a big deal for me.

    GeoShred :)
    If there are others fill me in!

    LayR's roadmap:
    https://www.livingmemorysoftware.com/joomla/index.php/hidden-menu-item/in-the-pipe
    Future looks bright :)

    I'm likely to take a slice of their cake when Link and MPE are baked in. Wouldn't complain at all if they added an Animoog/Model 15 style on screen keyboard, but the roadmap does look pretty ambitious already!

  • @gonekrazy3000 said:

    @stelvio said:
    sounds amazing. still can't help wishing for an animoog/model15 like kboard for poly glides between notes or chords but Layr looks pretty amazing anyhow!
    so glad there are in depth tools for synthesis like this on IOS.

    Can't you just use animoog as a keyboard ? I'm not sure I understand why you would need it inside layr if you already own animoog. Even model 15 can be used as a keyboard I think.

    Far as I know, neither Animoog nor Model 15 can ouput MIDI MPE. They can take it as input

  • I started a thread1 a while back on MIDI controller apps that support 3D Touch. That's not synonymous with support for MPE per se, but I had a look back through the list and looks like Aftertouch can output MIDI MPE, not sure about the others.

  • edited May 2017

    @srcer said:
    I started a thread1 a while back on MIDI controller apps that support 3D Touch. That's not synonymous with support for MPE per se, but I had a look back through the list and looks like Aftertouch can output MIDI MPE, not sure about the others.

    1: https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/16321/midi-controller-apps-with-3d-touch-support

    You know David Foster Wallace liked them too1. But I can't seem to make them work as well as you guys do...

  • @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @srcer said:
    I started a thread[^1] a while back on MIDI controller apps that support 3D Touch. That's not synonymous with support for MPE per se, but I had a look back through the list and looks like Aftertouch can output MIDI MPE, not sure about the others.

    [^1]: https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/16321/midi-controller-apps-with-3d-touch-support

    You know David Foster Wallace liked them too[^1]. But I can't seem to make them work as well as you guys do...

    [^1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Note_(typography)

    Wow, we're veering into DFW territory, unexpected.

    Infinite Jest was a journey well worth taking.

    This is, indeed, water. Ta for the reminder, perspective much needed on the commute ... sorry, back to normal (synth) programming ...

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