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Lisbon Vancouver Deemax - Korg Gadget just got hotter!!!

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  • @AndyPlankton said:

    @MonzoPro said:

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @MonzoPro said:

    @Samu said:

    @LucidMusicInc said:

    But I would also add that I would rather Korg stayed on course with their standalone apps that work as plugins than these overpriced IAPs. You get a better quality product and you don't have to suffer from having an incomplete collection.

    Agreed, I mean they 'Vancouver' could be just a 'Gadget' and the stand-alone app could be a proper 'Sampling Workstation' that could be used to generate content for Bilbao, AbuDhabi, Reciefe and the other 'Gadgets' that use Samples as source for their sounds (London, Marseilles, Kiev etc.).

    +1. It’s getting a bit weird now that Korg haven’t come up with a fully fledged sampler app and associated Gadget, and instead keep knocking out these half-hearted attempts.

    Possibly because it could affect volca and electribe sampler sales ?

    Probably, yeah.

    I’ve just watched Doug’s vid, and another one, and I’m getting tempted by Vancouver now. It’s basic, and the sample time is very annoying, but you can get some nice effects with the oscillator stuff. Thing is I don’t really use Gadget...

    Yeah I just watched too, not tempted though, I have permanently closed that particular money pit. I got electribe sampler 1 week ago so am getting my sampling kicks from that :)

    You must have quite the hardware setup now :)

  • @AndyPlankton said:

    @MonzoPro said:

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @MonzoPro said:

    @Samu said:

    @LucidMusicInc said:

    But I would also add that I would rather Korg stayed on course with their standalone apps that work as plugins than these overpriced IAPs. You get a better quality product and you don't have to suffer from having an incomplete collection.

    Agreed, I mean they 'Vancouver' could be just a 'Gadget' and the stand-alone app could be a proper 'Sampling Workstation' that could be used to generate content for Bilbao, AbuDhabi, Reciefe and the other 'Gadgets' that use Samples as source for their sounds (London, Marseilles, Kiev etc.).

    +1. It’s getting a bit weird now that Korg haven’t come up with a fully fledged sampler app and associated Gadget, and instead keep knocking out these half-hearted attempts.

    Possibly because it could affect volca and electribe sampler sales ?

    Probably, yeah.

    I’ve just watched Doug’s vid, and another one, and I’m getting tempted by Vancouver now. It’s basic, and the sample time is very annoying, but you can get some nice effects with the oscillator stuff. Thing is I don’t really use Gadget...

    Yeah I just watched too, not tempted though, I have permanently closed that particular money pit. I got electribe sampler 1 week ago so am getting my sampling kicks from that :)

    Ooh nice, I'd like one of those. I'm off to watch some videos so I can get really jealous.

    I remember seeing one of the first models being demoed in a music shop in Exeter and being completely blown away.

    I've stopped pouring money into the Gadget pot, haven't bought any of the recent new Korg synths/Gadgets, but it's always sitting there on my iPad, looking at me, and promising wonderful things. I might give it a spin tonight, maybe hook it up with Odessa and see if I can justify throwing another tenner at it.

  • @Fruitbat1919 said:

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @MonzoPro said:

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @MonzoPro said:

    @Samu said:

    @LucidMusicInc said:

    But I would also add that I would rather Korg stayed on course with their standalone apps that work as plugins than these overpriced IAPs. You get a better quality product and you don't have to suffer from having an incomplete collection.

    Agreed, I mean they 'Vancouver' could be just a 'Gadget' and the stand-alone app could be a proper 'Sampling Workstation' that could be used to generate content for Bilbao, AbuDhabi, Reciefe and the other 'Gadgets' that use Samples as source for their sounds (London, Marseilles, Kiev etc.).

    +1. It’s getting a bit weird now that Korg haven’t come up with a fully fledged sampler app and associated Gadget, and instead keep knocking out these half-hearted attempts.

    Possibly because it could affect volca and electribe sampler sales ?

    Probably, yeah.

    I’ve just watched Doug’s vid, and another one, and I’m getting tempted by Vancouver now. It’s basic, and the sample time is very annoying, but you can get some nice effects with the oscillator stuff. Thing is I don’t really use Gadget...

    Yeah I just watched too, not tempted though, I have permanently closed that particular money pit. I got electribe sampler 1 week ago so am getting my sampling kicks from that :)

    You must have quite the hardware setup now :)

    I do :)

    Circuit + Electribe for synths, sequencing and sampling.....Bass Station II and Mininova for more synth backup
    Just deciding now how I want to use it all, the circuit's step sequencer is brilliant and much easier than the electribe, but the electribe can sequence 16 tracks and has follow on for patterns.
    Hmmmm choices choices...

  • @MonzoPro said:

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @MonzoPro said:

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @MonzoPro said:

    @Samu said:

    @LucidMusicInc said:

    But I would also add that I would rather Korg stayed on course with their standalone apps that work as plugins than these overpriced IAPs. You get a better quality product and you don't have to suffer from having an incomplete collection.

    Agreed, I mean they 'Vancouver' could be just a 'Gadget' and the stand-alone app could be a proper 'Sampling Workstation' that could be used to generate content for Bilbao, AbuDhabi, Reciefe and the other 'Gadgets' that use Samples as source for their sounds (London, Marseilles, Kiev etc.).

    +1. It’s getting a bit weird now that Korg haven’t come up with a fully fledged sampler app and associated Gadget, and instead keep knocking out these half-hearted attempts.

    Possibly because it could affect volca and electribe sampler sales ?

    Probably, yeah.

    I’ve just watched Doug’s vid, and another one, and I’m getting tempted by Vancouver now. It’s basic, and the sample time is very annoying, but you can get some nice effects with the oscillator stuff. Thing is I don’t really use Gadget...

    Yeah I just watched too, not tempted though, I have permanently closed that particular money pit. I got electribe sampler 1 week ago so am getting my sampling kicks from that :)

    Ooh nice, I'd like one of those. I'm off to watch some videos so I can get really jealous.

    I remember seeing one of the first models being demoed in a music shop in Exeter and being completely blown away.

    I've stopped pouring money into the Gadget pot, haven't bought any of the recent new Korg synths/Gadgets, but it's always sitting there on my iPad, looking at me, and promising wonderful things. I might give it a spin tonight, maybe hook it up with Odessa and see if I can justify throwing another tenner at it.

    I am really enjoying the electribe, sample time isn't great for using longer samples or loops, but as it has SDHC card at least I can have different sample sets. As in previous post I'm still getting to grips with it all. :)
    I deleted gadget a while back to stop it staring at me, kinda like making it face the wall....doesn't stop me watching the vids and thinking the same about maybe one day :D

  • @mrufino1 said:
    I have read a few times about Apollo reverb, to what are you referring? Is that in gadget? I’m not seeing it if so.

    it's only in the Lexington and vancouver gadgets ( maybe the monpelier one?? dunno ) up to now, shame they didn't put it in the channel strip effects yet..

  • @RockySmalls said:

    @mrufino1 said:
    I have read a few times about Apollo reverb, to what are you referring? Is that in gadget? I’m not seeing it if so.

    it's only in the Lexington and vancouver gadgets ( maybe the monpelier one?? dunno ) up to now, shame they didn't put it in the channel strip effects yet..

    Ah, gotcha. I’m not buying any of those so I won’t hear it unless they put it in the channel strip. I haven’t added any gadgets since I bought module about a year ago, the new ones haven’t really gotten my interest.

    Zeeon would make an amazing gadget though...
    And it kind of is in GarageBand, which I’ve been really involved in again since the new update, but it’s been my favorite songwriting tool for a long time.

  • In the last 24 hours i've been mainly sampling:

    • Alchemy (luckily I still have the whole app and all my IAPs on my ipad air 2 that i've yet to update to iOS11 - but for how much longer?)
    • Animoog (of course - you can't get that sound out of any of the Gadget synths)
    • Sunrizer (there are some amazing drum and bass/gritty full on bass patches that I can't easily emulate in the Gadget synths)

    What else am I missing? What else can't be easily produced in Gadget? I'm thinking next I turn my attention to some of those amazing @brice cinematic Layr patches...

  • ...maybe some of the FM style stuff in iProphet - there's some sounds in there that there's no way of getting near to with any Gadget synths.

    • And if Z3ta worked... ditto...
  • Does the Vancouver have AudioShare import ? I didn't see it as an option in Dougs video.

  • So once you’ve sampled stuff into your iOS device of choice do the samples get transferred but cloud to your other idevices or does this still have to be done manually somehow?

  • @robosardine said:
    Does the Vancouver have AudioShare import ? I didn't see it as an option in Dougs video.

    I saw it listed in another vid, maybe you have to open in from AS first to get it listed.

  • @robosardine said:
    Does the Vancouver have AudioShare import ? I didn't see it as an option in Dougs video.

    Yes it has Audioshare, and also Dropbox and Audiopaste

  • @Fruitbat1919 said:

    @MonzoPro said:

    @AndyPlankton said:

    @MonzoPro said:

    @Samu said:

    @LucidMusicInc said:

    But I would also add that I would rather Korg stayed on course with their standalone apps that work as plugins than these overpriced IAPs. You get a better quality product and you don't have to suffer from having an incomplete collection.

    Agreed, I mean they 'Vancouver' could be just a 'Gadget' and the stand-alone app could be a proper 'Sampling Workstation' that could be used to generate content for Bilbao, AbuDhabi, Reciefe and the other 'Gadgets' that use Samples as source for their sounds (London, Marseilles, Kiev etc.).

    +1. It’s getting a bit weird now that Korg haven’t come up with a fully fledged sampler app and associated Gadget, and instead keep knocking out these half-hearted attempts.

    Possibly because it could affect volca and electribe sampler sales ?

    Probably, yeah.

    I’ve just watched Doug’s vid, and another one, and I’m getting tempted by Vancouver now. It’s basic, and the sample time is very annoying, but you can get some nice effects with the oscillator stuff. Thing is I don’t really use Gadget...

    Yeah, I feel like I’m sometimes collecting Gadget. I get all new Gadgets (eventually), yet I will use them for a while, then go back to whatever AU host I’m using at the time (currently BM3 and AUM).

    Then the Gadgets just sit there gathering virtual dust :p

    Yes, "Collecting Gadget", I stopped buying everything a while ago once I realised I was on a completist treadmill and not actually producing much with it.

    Gadget was great when released but my workflow is more freeform now and when I start to use Gadget I feel a bit claustrophobic.

    So much so I don't actually have it installed on my space-constrained iPad.

  • Thank you and thank goodness :)

  • I am finding Vancouver annoyingly limited but fun to play with (much like myself etc).

  • Vancouver is nice. Enough sonic options with 2 samples and sub osc.
    Had fun creating poly-rhythms by loading the same sample in both slots and slightly adjusting the loop lengths. Instant Steve Reich.

    BUT, as mentioned, Korg didn’t fix the extreme battery drain: 1 hour of Vancouver jamming used 20% battery... :'(

  • @wim said:

    @sbcfx said:
    I just opened after update. Yes it can import only itunes as Dropbox is greyed out

    You just need to re-link your Dropbox in the settings, then it’ll work.

    I just did that - still greyed out...

  • @Tim did you try to export an old project to Dropbox first, that’s how .i got it too work

  • edited November 2017

    Just in case anyone is confused like I was. In Vancouver If you tap the name at the bottom you only have the option of importing from iTunes or Dropbox- if you tap the name at the top- there is good old Audioshare.

  • @robosardine said:
    Just in case anyone is confused like I was. In Vancouver If you tap the name at the bottom you only have the option of importing from iTunes or Dropbox- if you tap the name at the top- there is good old Audioshare.

    Because:

    Top: changing samples
    Bottom: changing presets

  • edited November 2017

    @robosardine said:
    Just in case anyone is confused like I was. In Vancouver If you tap the name at the bottom you only have the option of importing from iTunes or Dropbox- if you tap the name at the top- there is good old Audioshare.

    That's basically because the bottom one is the 'preset'(ie. not the sample) while the top one on each osc page is the 'sample'. While AudioShare support is nice I'd love to see Files.app support so I could grab samples directly from my BM3's folder-structure or even my network server (using Documents by Readle from the Files.app pop-up) :)

  • @Matt_Fletcher_2000 said:
    ...maybe some of the FM style stuff in iProphet - there's some sounds in there that there's no way of getting near to with any Gadget synths.

    • And if Z3ta worked... ditto...

    Poison 202
    Sampletank
    Bebot
    Drom
    TC-11
    BitWiz etc...

  • @Matt_Fletcher_2000 said:

    @robosardine said:
    Just in case anyone is confused like I was. In Vancouver If you tap the name at the bottom you only have the option of importing from iTunes or Dropbox- if you tap the name at the top- there is good old Audioshare.

    Because:

    Top: changing samples
    Bottom: changing presets

    Seriously, both of you; Plus one x 2

  • Today worked out very strange for me and my purchasing app addiction...
    Really thought that Kauldron would be 9.99 and underwhelming...but it was 3.99 and great sounding! Wow what a great purchase...I’m very happy about this one. Deemax seemed underwhelming to me but turned out to be the greater of the 3 new gadgets in usefulness. Stomping the old limiter right thru the ground, but they did leave the old one as well for those who like it. Brisbon is ok at best, what VR has to do with it is beyond me? It’s a super up Helsinki, so if you use Helsinki a lot Brisbon is for you...as it adds to that palette. Vancouver, I’m not a fan at all worse 10 bucks ever spent in gadget...this is another underwhelming rompler with user loaded samples...there isn’t a whole lot goin on here that other “samplers” can’t already do in gadget...and this thing lacks any pitch stretch making it very old school, not gonna be making very many mind blowing patches with this unless I’ve drastically overlooked something...if you bought this you got jacked.

    Here’s what Gadget is still missing or sucks
    1. Midi out...this could be useful
    2. Real sampling...sample editing
    3. Folders in the gadgets to store sounds in a more organized way...man, the scrolling and scrolling
    4. Linear mode...not everything starts on the one...almost nothing created by me does...just find myself exporting stems from one pattern all the time, into better sequencers
    5. Learn from reason...don’t close your system, add an audiounit gadget.
    6. The audio recorder is aweful
    7. Are we really getting new engines or libraries disguised as engines?
    8. A way to delete, turn off unused gadgets
    9. User samples in all the romplers so they can at least be used to organize ie sfx in Amsterdam
    10. Timestretch/pitch...so your sampler can actually use 2 samples and make real patches
    11. A new sound engine...maybe granular, shit anything but another subtractive synth...for the love of (whatever)
    12. Add a damn vocoder already

    I’d rather pay for useful shit...any of that up there would be instantly!

    It’s starting to become way more about tricking me into gimmicky gadget purchases, and less about being a platform.

  • Gadget to me always seemed like a video game compared to all the other software I ever worked with. Or actually, like being in an arcade instead of a productive studio (or bedroom) environment.

  • I cannot seem to be able to buy anything .. get cannot connect to store..: error...

  • @robosardine said:
    Lisbon is a good one. Lots of sonic madness to be had. No puzzles involved in working it out- it's basically intuitively fiddle about and something decent will come. Great fun to be had drawing in the plentiful automation options. You can move the notes in the grid and change the preset as the arpeggios plays. It goes well with Effects in Audiobus/AUM. If you are in to EDM or experimental type music- it's a must have Gadget.

    I’m prolly being a daftee but how do you hold a note in Lisbon?

  • Hey guys -

    I just put up 100 free single cycle waveforms to import into Vancouver and make quick new sounds with:

  • These could be used in BM3 too :)

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