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((Pro-Q 2)) by FabFilter = (EQualizer) - in the AppStore Now! - £28.99 - ((AU<3))

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  • So far so good in bm3..man, I love this eq!

  • edited July 2018

    If AUFX:Peak were to come out in Audio unit, (and preferably add as many more peaks as the FF EQ, or at least the LPX built-in or phase-linear EQ, in which case I’d definitely buy AUFX:Peak all over again) I think it’d be perfectly feasible to run something into Auria into FF’s eq, copy the settings (there really aren’t that many) and if the calibrations are accurate enough to be believed at both ends, simply re-enter the same settings into (the future-released) AUFX:Peak. In the meantime, the same would be true of all other similarly specced EQs – look at it in FF in Auria, get a pencil and paper, copy the parameters to the other EQ outside of Auria. Profit.

  • Did anybody know how to leave the full screen mode in Pro-Q?
    I’m in Auria Pro with an iPad Pro 10.5. I can not see any button, also some try and error gestures will not work...

    Many thanks for your help!

  • @chandroji said:
    Did anybody know how to leave the full screen mode in Pro-Q?
    I’m in Auria Pro with an iPad Pro 10.5. I can not see any button, also some try and error gestures will not work...

    Many thanks for your help!

    I contacted Fabfilter last night on fb and they told me it will be in the next auria pro release. It's not PR bullshit hopefully. Time will tell.

  • @chandroji From memory, I think its the same dashed square icon that gets you into full screen mode, in the top right corner of the window .

  • edited July 2018

    Thank you @Norbert and @Richtowns !

    It seems that the screen is not optimized for the 10.5 iPad Pro. I think there is a cutaway on the right side. The same issue with the Pro-R. Here we can see it very clearly. The right knob on the top is not complete... 😎

  • How well is the AUv3 automation working with Pro-Q 2?
    Ie. how much of the AUParameters can we access in for example AUM or ApeMatrix?

    Does the automating the nodes work in for example Cubasis or BM3?
    When using the AUv3 in 'fullscreen mode' is it 'real' fullscreen or just 'extended view'?

    How long will the initial sale (25% discount) last?
    I am a recovering app-o-holic and after Quanta this may be be the next purchase...

    I suspect @thesoundtestroom will do a demo on this at some point and give us a proper link or something :)

  • @chandroji said:
    Thank you @Norbert and @Richtowns !

    It seems that the screen is not optimized for the 10.5 iPad Pro. I think there is a cutaway on the right side. The same issue with the Pro-R. Here you can see it very clearly. The right knob on the top is not complete... 😎

    This is a bug on the 10.5 iPad, should be fixed in the next release AFAIK.

  • Yeah sorry, what I meant is the full screen will be fixed. I didn't answer your question about where it was, my bad. I have been asking for a fix since 10.5 launch by the way...

  • @Trueyorky said:

    @AudioGus said:

    @Fruitbat1919 said:
    Has anyone tried this in BM3 yet? Seen many ask this, yet have seen no answer as yet. Just want to know if it runs OK in BM3 before I buy it.

    Thank you to anyone that can help answer this :)

    Yah, things like... Do all parameters automate? Beta and/or current version? Can we have a screenshot or video of the UI in action? How is the CPU use? Can you send me a gift card? Promo code?

    Yes, this works great in BM3 (live version not beta) record automation of your screen movements - very easy. I added approx 6 instances of FF in a couple of BM3 projects all good on iPad Air 2. Also full automation using LFOs in ApeMatrix which is awesome.

    Like many I invested heavily in these quality plugins inside Auria but that was then and this is now - I just couldn’t resist running several of these as AU :)

    Thanks for the info :)

  • @Samu said:
    How well is the AUv3 automation working with Pro-Q 2?
    Ie. how much of the AUParameters can we access in for example AUM or ApeMatrix?

    Does the automating the nodes work in for example Cubasis or BM3?

    Automation is working great, tested in BM3, ApeMatrix and AUM. All show lots of parameters for individual bands plus global too. I double click the ‘header’ and AU shows full screen. In BM3 hide the keyboard :)

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  • @Bartlinux said:
    But what exactly is now the unique selling point of Auria?

    Unlimited audio busses. Non-destructive midi processing. Real time transient warping. Twin 2. Lyra 2 with disk streaming and EXS support. State of the art channel strips with PSP effects. 960 PPQN and adavanced grids. Multiple tempos and time signatures in a single project. State of the art FXpansion and PSP plug-ins in the Auria store. Drumagog as an IAP. Oh, did I say unlimited bussing?

  • edited July 2018

    @Shazamm said:

    @KING777 said:

    @realdawei said:
    Has anyone tried the FF AU in Auria Pro?

    Ha!

    Unusual/strange/weird question..
    Unusual/strange/weird answer..
    Not seeing it in the AUv3 list..

    Very Unusual/strange/weird!

    Interesting..

    King

    In the Beta of Auria it works fine so when it is released it will show up

    Ahh, excellent! Good to know.

    ...then, some proper (AuriaVersion vs AUv3) cpu testing can begin.
    What I’ve seen so far in AUM's DSP is great. Hovering 1-2% - mini2-11.4

    But there are hungrier fabs to come..

    King

    Added: actually the % above ^ was observed when I had a few tracks going on.
    On a fresh/clean project, Pro-Q 2 is stable @ 1%.

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  • edited July 2018

    Fab said:

    “Hi all,

    We would love to be able to integrate AUv3 purchases with Auria in-app purchases, and with our regular shop, but Apple simply doesn't let us do it. We don't know who purchased the in-app plug-ins for Auria, and we don't know who purchased the AUv3 plug-in either: Apple doesn't give us that information. It also doesn't help to send us your receipts because we can't give a discount to selected users as we would normally do.

    This is unfortunately how the App Store works and there's nothing we can do about it. Compensating for this though, is the fact that our plug-ins on iOS are very attractively priced!

    Note again that if you are using Auria, there's no reason to migrate from Auria's in-app plug-ins: we will continue to support and update these of course.

    Cheers,

    Frederik (FabFilter) — Jul 17, 2018”

    —————

    ...”and we don't know who purchased the AUv3 plug-in either” ...

    Hmm... (Apple.. got to Love them)

    Hopefully some questions answered.

    King

  • @tja said:
    Could you explain „non-desctructive midi processing“?

    In Auria Pro you can quantize/humanise/groove quantize/transpose non-destructively, basically everything in this window is non-destructive:

    Auria is under-appreciated for it's powerful MIDI features. I think partly the problem is that the app can do so much stuff that it takes a while to get your head around it all. And with that comes some inevitable complexity. Someone complained that Auria had menus, but without menus how can all the features be exposed? It's not easy to marry power with ease-of-use, but personally I really appreciate all the stuff Auria can do.

  • @KING777 said:
    Fab said:

    “Hi all,

    We would love to be able to integrate AUv3 purchases with Auria in-app purchases, and with our regular shop, but Apple simply doesn't let us do it. We don't know who purchased the in-app plug-ins for Auria, and we don't know who purchased the AUv3 plug-in either: Apple doesn't give us that information. It also doesn't help to send us your receipts because we can't give a discount to selected users as we would normally do.

    This is unfortunately how the App Store works and there's nothing we can do about it. Compensating for this though, is the fact that our plug-ins on iOS are very attractively priced!

    Note again that if you are using Auria, there's no reason to migrate from Auria's in-app plug-ins: we will continue to support and update these of course.

    Cheers,

    Frederik (FabFilter) — Jul 17, 2018”

    —————

    ...”and we don't know who purchased the AUv3 plug-in either” ...

    Hmm... Apple..

    Hopefully some questions answered.

    King

    They could add AU functionality to the Auria versions, then existing owners can use them as AU’s.

    As it is, AU version purchasers get the best of all Worlds, whereas Auria versions are tied to a single app.

  • @MonzoPro said:
    They could add AU functionality to the Auria versions, then existing owners can use them as AU’s.

    As it is, AU version purchasers get the best of all Worlds, whereas Auria versions are tied to a single app.

    I'm pretty certain that simply isn't possible though. There is no mechanism to allow the IAPs that were purchased in the Auria store to transfer to the new apps which are the AU versions. All the data is hidden from the devs.

    The one mechanism that is possible is the Sugar Bytes method: you buy the standalone app in the Apple App store and that unlocks the IAP in Auria. Works the other way around, and would only be possible if you buy the new AU version. Too late for those who already bought the Auria versions.

    TBH it really is fair enough, FabFilter must have spent time and resources making the AU versions, let's not be bitter about it, it's all good really. We've been able to use the Auria versions for six years, so if we want AU functionality in 2018 there is an upgrade cost.

  • I guess it all comes down to how you use Auria. Personally, I can't think of any other DAW which can deliver such powerful mastering tools at the moment so I will stick to it. I might get Q2 and C2 in their AUv3 versions when they are on sale for better commodities when testing new sounds but apart from that, I like them being as they are in Auria.

  • If we look at 'Tabletop' as an example it unlocks certain 'apps' if the supported app is installed on the device.
    (Full installs of iMPC, iMPC Pro, iMini etc are baked into the main Tabletop.app and unlocked once the the app is installed on the device. That's partially why the Tabletop download is huge).

    So what Rim could probably do here is to 'check' if Pro-Q 2 is installed and then 'unlock' it in AuriaPro?

    This would at let those who purchase the stand-alone Pro-Q 2 to use it in AuriaPro.

    I think this is the way Sugarbytes apps work with AuriaPro.
    AuriaPro simply checks if the app is installed on the device and unlocks it.

    Doing it the other way around is harder since it's impossible for FabFilters to check what IAPs have been purchased inside AuriaPro and that would also mean that Pro-Q 2 AUv3 would need an IAP function in case it was possible to check it. ie. no IAP purchase needed for those that have it in AuriaPro, IAP for those that don't...
    (On the other hand this could potentially enable 30-day trial with an IAP to continue past 30-days if that's 'allowed').

  • Yeah, I'll be getting Timeless2, Saturn, and Pro-R for jamming. Having to open up Auria to just play guitar daunts me sometimes and makes me feel like I need to get something tangible done instead of relaxing and having fun.

  • edited July 2018

    @richardyot said:

    @MonzoPro said:
    They could add AU functionality to the Auria versions, then existing owners can use them as AU’s.

    As it is, AU version purchasers get the best of all Worlds, whereas Auria versions are tied to a single app.

    I'm pretty certain that simply isn't possible though. There is no mechanism to allow the IAPs that were purchased in the Auria store to transfer to the new apps which are the AU versions. All the data is hidden from the devs.

    The one mechanism that is possible is the Sugar Bytes method: you buy the standalone app in the Apple App store and that unlocks the IAP in Auria. Works the other way around, and would only be possible if you buy the new AU version. Too late for those who already bought the Auria versions.

    TBH it really is fair enough, FabFilter must have spent time and resources making the AU versions, let's not be bitter about it, it's all good really. We've been able to use the Auria versions for six years, so if we want AU functionality in 2018 there is an upgrade cost.

    I’m not bitter, I just feel if the platform is to progress and app prices to rise accordingly, there needs to be upgrade pricing mechanism for existing loyal customers.

    If there isn’t, then in the long-term buying some apps will work out more expensive than desktop versions - as is happening with Gadget.

    Upgrade pricing will give customers confidence they’ll be able to keep their collection up to date for a discounted price, rather than buying everything again and again, or being tied to subscriptions.

  • As I use my iOS equipment for live performance and/or tracking, I prefer to make minor EQ tweaks using the AUM nodes / BM3 native EQ .. simple and CPU friendly. If I want to take a project further (I actually usually just send the stems on to the next link in the chain..) then I'll cough up for a Mixbus license (running Debian..) and mix/master on my laptop.

    Soooo.. although I'd love to own these utility apps, I can't really justify the price at this time for my use case. I'll pick them up in the future if I have some disposable income.

    I've never settled on a Reverb or Delay though, so I'll probably swap in Timeless and Pro-R as soon as possible (as long as the processor usage is 'OK').

    I also want to echo that I think that charging full price for the AU is fine, but that purchasing the AU version definitely should unlock the Auria version. Who exactly who doesn't already own the Auria version is going to buy the Auria native versions after already buying the AU version. To me, that sounds like a big negative to Auria: having the native versions is still a big USP inside such a fully featured production environment as Auria -- this sales model takes that away (going forward).

  • @MonzoPro said:

    @richardyot said:

    @MonzoPro said:
    They could add AU functionality to the Auria versions, then existing owners can use them as AU’s.

    As it is, AU version purchasers get the best of all Worlds, whereas Auria versions are tied to a single app.

    I'm pretty certain that simply isn't possible though. There is no mechanism to allow the IAPs that were purchased in the Auria store to transfer to the new apps which are the AU versions. All the data is hidden from the devs.

    The one mechanism that is possible is the Sugar Bytes method: you buy the standalone app in the Apple App store and that unlocks the IAP in Auria. Works the other way around, and would only be possible if you buy the new AU version. Too late for those who already bought the Auria versions.

    TBH it really is fair enough, FabFilter must have spent time and resources making the AU versions, let's not be bitter about it, it's all good really. We've been able to use the Auria versions for six years, so if we want AU functionality in 2018 there is an upgrade cost.

    I’m not bitter, I just feel if the platform is to progress and app prices to rise accordingly, there needs to be upgrade pricing mechanism for existing loyal customers.

    If there isn’t, then in the long-term buying some apps will work out more expensive than desktop versions - as is happening with Gadget.

    Upgrade pricing will give customers confidence they’ll be able to keep their collection up to date for a discounted price, rather than buying everything again and again, or being tied to subscriptions.

    I agree about the upgrade path, but sadly that is in the hands of Apple, so who knows if it will ever happen.

  • I’ve spent a lot of money in Auria and have all of the Fabfilters and am very happy about that. Not particularly happy with the prospect of having to buy everything again and with the lousy exchange rate it’s beyond ridiculous to shell out all over again. I’m going into the wait and see mode....forget about it and be happy with what I have mode. I have more than enough to be happy

  • Indeed when i look at the bundle prices for the plug-ins which are on a 25% sale right now you can get the plug-ins for not so much more....depending of your bundle...almost for the same. And i guess you can upgrade next time as well. So yeah, it´s all relative maybe and you get what you pay for.
    Not the first time that apps looks like a real bargain but in a longer term and if you want to buy lots of tools from a developers you pay almost the same at the end.
    That said i think they are worth the price on iOS but the single plug-in price are just a bit too high for me compared to the competition or the stock DAW tools which comes very close these days.
    But iOS bundles would be possible as well, or?

  • @samu I think you make a good point. If this is like you think then the ball is in @WaveMachineLabs court, so to speak, at the moment. It is now a level playing field and Auria Pro wont have a FabFilter exclusive for much longer.

    I hope this is the case and Auria is able to unlock its plugin when detecting the AUv3 version is installed. This would defo be a bonus for everyone

  • edited July 2018

    @richardyot said:

    @MonzoPro said:

    @richardyot said:

    @MonzoPro said:
    They could add AU functionality to the Auria versions, then existing owners can use them as AU’s.

    As it is, AU version purchasers get the best of all Worlds, whereas Auria versions are tied to a single app.

    I'm pretty certain that simply isn't possible though. There is no mechanism to allow the IAPs that were purchased in the Auria store to transfer to the new apps which are the AU versions. All the data is hidden from the devs.

    The one mechanism that is possible is the Sugar Bytes method: you buy the standalone app in the Apple App store and that unlocks the IAP in Auria. Works the other way around, and would only be possible if you buy the new AU version. Too late for those who already bought the Auria versions.

    TBH it really is fair enough, FabFilter must have spent time and resources making the AU versions, let's not be bitter about it, it's all good really. We've been able to use the Auria versions for six years, so if we want AU functionality in 2018 there is an upgrade cost.

    I’m not bitter, I just feel if the platform is to progress and app prices to rise accordingly, there needs to be upgrade pricing mechanism for existing loyal customers.

    If there isn’t, then in the long-term buying some apps will work out more expensive than desktop versions - as is happening with Gadget.

    Upgrade pricing will give customers confidence they’ll be able to keep their collection up to date for a discounted price, rather than buying everything again and again, or being tied to subscriptions.

    I agree about the upgrade path, but sadly that is in the hands of Apple, so who knows if it will ever happen.

    That may be the case, but we need to stop stating iOS users are getting a ‘cheap deal’, when we’re not.

    You can buy the 14 plugin desktop collection at the moment for £569.25, which works out at £40 per plugin, the same price as the full price version of the iOS eq. But if you want the Auria version as well, you’ll be paying double the desktop price. And you won’t get a discount on future upgrades.

    It’s not cheaper, if anything many iOS customers will end up paying more.

  • edited July 2018

    @MonzoPro said:

    @richardyot said:

    @MonzoPro said:

    @richardyot said:

    @MonzoPro said:
    They could add AU functionality to the Auria versions, then existing owners can use them as AU’s.

    As it is, AU version purchasers get the best of all Worlds, whereas Auria versions are tied to a single app.

    I'm pretty certain that simply isn't possible though. There is no mechanism to allow the IAPs that were purchased in the Auria store to transfer to the new apps which are the AU versions. All the data is hidden from the devs.

    The one mechanism that is possible is the Sugar Bytes method: you buy the standalone app in the Apple App store and that unlocks the IAP in Auria. Works the other way around, and would only be possible if you buy the new AU version. Too late for those who already bought the Auria versions.

    TBH it really is fair enough, FabFilter must have spent time and resources making the AU versions, let's not be bitter about it, it's all good really. We've been able to use the Auria versions for six years, so if we want AU functionality in 2018 there is an upgrade cost.

    I’m not bitter, I just feel if the platform is to progress and app prices to rise accordingly, there needs to be upgrade pricing mechanism for existing loyal customers.

    If there isn’t, then in the long-term buying some apps will work out more expensive than desktop versions - as is happening with Gadget.

    Upgrade pricing will give customers confidence they’ll be able to keep their collection up to date for a discounted price, rather than buying everything again and again, or being tied to subscriptions.

    I agree about the upgrade path, but sadly that is in the hands of Apple, so who knows if it will ever happen.

    That may be the case, but we need to stop stating iOS users are getting a ‘cheap deal’, when we’re not.

    You can buy the 14 plugin desktop collection at the moment for £569.25, which works out at £40 per plugin, the same price as the full price version of the iOS eq. But if you want the Auria version as well, you’ll be paying double the desktop price. And you won’t get a discount on future upgrades.

    It’s not cheaper, if anything many iOS customers will end up paying more.

    Exactly!!

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