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What does that eq curve belong to?
@mrufino1 said:
I believe that's the soundtrack to the 80s video game Defender.
I have Pro-Q as an Auria plug-in, but don’t use it as I don’t use Auria anymore. Have lived without it for a long time though admittedly I do miss the awesome spectrum analyser. Waves EQ plug-in in Cubasis is certainly good enough for me and it will be even better when an analyser is added (@LFS can you put in a word
). Or maybe I should just close my eyes and sharpen my ears with the likes of hearEQ!
Cost-wise it’s up to Fabfilter to charge as they see fit and for consumers to decide whether they want to buy at that price - simples. Of course FF are fighting a precedent long set on iOS that apps won’t be too pricey. But good luck to them, it’s undeniably a fantastic product and great for the iOS music studio ecosystem.
Two ways to look at pricing on iOS. Things are generally inexpensive, iOS users expect inexpensive and base their feelings of value on that norm. Another way of looking at is that apps cost a certain amount on desktop, and the roughly equivalent iOS app should be relatively priced. Using the second criteria, this FabFilter EQ is priced appropriately. On desktop, it costs almost as much as Logic Pro. The question is whether iOS users want to buy it.
I bought many of the FFs for Auria Pro. Other than the tiny interfaces, they're great. The Auria versions are really an anomaly. When iOS was a younger child, we were stuck buying proprietary plug-ins. Now we have this. Be happy.
FabFilters are higher end products. As such, they're not for everyone, but if you want Pro-Q 2 for desktop today, I think it's about $180. The iOS AU version is $30. Yeah, there's differences in the platforms, bundles, App Store policies but still... do the math.
Haha!
All valid points, wouldn’t disagree. Yep very grateful, happy etc about the choice we have nowadays on iOS and about this move from Fabfilter. Price does indeed look like chump change when compared to desktop equivalents, but not everyone uses desktop apps as their standard candle. Not every iOS music maker comes from that world
I'm the opposite of @zeroG as far as Auria Pro goes, it's my main DAW and save for the Pro MB multiband compressor and the FF Pro Deesser & Gate, I have the bulk of the FabFilter plugs.
But we're in total agreement about the Waves EQ in Cubasis. See, as an Appoholic hearing "AUv3" is a trigger but hearing "FabFilter AUv3" is enough to bring on instant relapse/purchase. This week during those late night moments when you're just about drifting off I've come really close to pressing BUY on Pro EQ2 AUv3 but I have resisted because when outside of Auria I still have some great apps.
I only use AUM as an experimentation & writing platform, anything I dig is then shuttled to Auria. Cubasis is fun and I have used it for a few tracks, most still ongoing.
So I had to literally look through my AUv3 lists to be reminded that I've got some great EQ's (DDMF'S, Kymatica's, etc). Plus as @zeroG points out I have all the WAVES plugs in Cubasis. Is Q10 as good as Pro Q2? Audibly I'd say maybe a little, but what really makes the FF plugs is the interface & spectrum layout. For the amount I use Cubasis I really don't know if I'd be using it that much.
I will eventually get Pro EQ2, and all the surely incoming Pro's, but I am cool until the sale. I know some of these posts for many of us is almost like thinking outloud, it's just shit, we've had several threads on the compulsive nature many of us have to get EVERYTHING. It's hard to shine cool shit on, especially when the hype is swirling around.
Bottom line is I've bought soooo many apps that I wish that with what I know now I could return, you know? $30 isn't a huge purchase, but it's better than a kick to the dick. It's a tank of gas, my soda tab for the month, damn, I'm sure it could get something at the "gentlemens" places 50 miles North of me here in Vegas...
I have the Waves pack in Cubasis and Fabfilter L2 in Auria Pro... do I need to toss out money for this?
I mean... right now. It’ll maybe come on Xmas sale
Has this been answered already? Is the sale price, or is this the regular price?
It’s currently 25% off they said.
normally 40 bucks
Yes, and FabFilter should not only realize that iOS music makers sometimes know only very low prices, but that the company is a little late to the game here. I think most serious music-making app buyers have been collecting effects that do the job, even AUv3 apps, for years now. Many already have FFs in Auria Pro, where they do their mixing. So not everyone is going to jump on these new AUs, even if they recognize them as being a cut above. I think the company isn't too concerned about it, as their bread & butter isn't iOS.
I still think it's a bit overpriced though. Those plugins are good, mind you, but they are like 10 times more expensive than most effects on IOS. The pricing should reflect the market tendencies rather than how much it costs on desktop. IOS users don't care about desktop versions. They want a coherent music environment, including pricing.
If that’s true then they wont make as much revenue as they expect and may consider lowering prices to boost volume. That’s just market economics at work.
However, considering that their pricing tier has remained consistent for years, and that within a niche market (Auria Pro users only), I sort of doubt they will be reconsidering their pricing model.
I don't know if it's a good strategy though. Selling 40 bucks app to 10 users who can afford it whereas if it had been 4 bucks, 200 or more would buy it. In the end, you are still losing money.
There has to be a middle ground in which companies and users find their profit. For me, 40 bucks is far too expensive for most users.
At the risk of being slammed...
In this thread
Well...this app is 10x the price of some other AU EQ. It would probably make my tracks sound a very little bit better...so it won’t be a game changer...BUT...we deserve the best, don’t we?
I am a web developer so trolling is something I am very familiar with. So no worries
Still, this is my opinion and I stand by what I said above.
Well that’s basically the bottom line here - Fabfilter will do whatever they decide, there is no right and no wrong, only opinion.
As mentioned earlier, Full AU Screen support is on our list for the upcoming Cubasis update.
BTW, congrats to our friends at FabFilter on their Pro-Q 2 release...
Best,
Lars
Thanks for being on the ball with this @LFS and team
I've yet to make a video where the AUv3 Plug-ins 'close box' is missing.
But in short...
Bring up the piano-keyboard and then bring up the AUv3 plug-in and the AUv3 plug-in has no close box.
On the other hand, bring up the AUv3 plug-in and then the keyboard and both have 'close box' on the top right corner.
This is on an Air 2, Don't know if it also affects to 10.5 and 12.9 iPad's since I don't have one...
Can someone point me to where exactly they say that there is a 25% reduced price for the initial release of Pro-Q2 on iOS? I can’t find anything. I see the Desktop bundles are 25% off but only the bundles not the individual plugins and only on Desktop.
I just want to verify that this is real and not a false rumor. Thank you.
Ooops I tapped on the Pro-Q 2 buy button
Still got some store-credits left so no worries...
So assuming the Pro-Q2 is $30 USD in Auria like I think I’ve heard. I’m going to say the information about the 25% off initial sale is false.
The price in the Swedish store for the AUv3 Pro-2 Q is exactly the same (319SEK) as the Pro-Q 2 IAP for AuriaPro.
So yeah, the 25% 'intro price' seems to be a bit miss-leading and I would be quite annoyed if the price gets lower just after I finally decided to get it...
So you fit the first example. You compare to other iOS prices and base your value of the product on that. Others see the desktop prices, and value based on those prices.
Many see iOS prices as too low, and those low prices at least a factor in why we don't see more of the desktop apps we like ported over. FabFilter may not be interested in providing their products at dirt cheap prices, even if they could sell more of them, if it devalues the product, the product that's made them successful on traditional platforms. In any case, it's just a guess how many they would sell on iOS at any specific price, so our opinions about that hardly support any argument.
Payday tomorrow, so buying this then. I’m really looking forward to them hopefully releasing Timeless, Saturn and Volcano in AU versions. I use these three for making my synth sounds dirty
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