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@Keebo thanks for the comment, it's really useful for me to hear this. Would you mind elaborating a little (or a lot!) on your expectation of midi in/out as standard? Why do you think you feel this way? Hearing your thought process on this (and others on this thread) helps me to understand where users are coming from on this topic.
All midi in one purchase, I say $7-10
Unless there were way more sounds in Guitarism, I personally would not use Midi In with it much, so I'd be OK with just a Midi Out option. Something around the $5 mark sounds about right to me.
As I said before, strum, twiddle, strum. The twiddle would need to be MIDI In in order to match guitar sounds. I'd rather have that than the ability to drive synths, but I'd settle for both.
The few iOS apps with MIDI as an extra are Meteor, Alchemy and Animoog. Alchemy has patches and a recording device which if you took that away would be about £5. I think the same for Animoog (don't know how much meteor is). They're both big "names" so $5 seems about right as you're not quite in their league. Yet. Obviously. Err.... (Shuffles off, embarrassed).
I'm not up to doing strum twiddle strum, heck I'm a keyboard player, not a guitarist!
I think it's an interesting idea to have them as separate IAPs. I'd want both and would be happy paying about $5 for it. It's not something I'd actually use very often but a) I would probably record midi when doing a take as a just-in-case and b) wouldn't mind sending you a few more bucks!
@PhilW You never know unless you try.
@Rhism,
I remember back in the mid 80's when the MIDI standard was defined. Prior to that, it was all a myriad of audio cables into a 4 track cassette recorder in the 70's - early 80's (on my mom's two track reel to reel in the 60's) with high hopes that the tracks would not get too lossless as more tracks were recorded.
At last I was able to sync my drum machine (Roland, can't remember the unit), 8 bit sampler (Ensoniq Mirage - 12 bit was way too expensive back then), keyboard sequencer (Ensoniq SQ-1), rack mounted Yamaha TX81Z, and Roland U-220 without worrying about signal degregation. Too bad I sold them all but the U-220 years ago (it had the best affordable distorded guitar sound to me at the time before I started playing guitar).
Getting back to your question of my expectations of MIDI in/out. I would have thought by now that all music making apps/VST's/hardware units included this age old standard as an included function. I can see where this applies mostly to synth apps but I have to say that I really enjoy playing synth sounds on my MIDI enabled guitar. Do I have to have Guitarism capable of MIDI in/out? No. But like I mentioned above, I think every app should have the foundation of standard MIDI included from the get go.
This is only my expectation and it can easily be riddled with holes. Please develop this great app as only you can do. Thank you for asking such questions from your appreciated users.
Good luck with this app and any others you may make available.
Thanks for the feedback guys. Looks like most people are in favor of the combined midi in/out as a single IAP. I'm guessing this is because people in general don't like the idea of paying for midi, so they definitely don't want to pay for it twice. Plus, a lot of the use scenario is about recording the midi to clean it up and play it back through the app, for which you'd need both.
As I'd said earlier my estimates tell me that I'd need to charge $10 to break even on my time investment in getting midi working, given my assumptions that a small minority of users would use it, and it wouldn't bring in new users. I agree with the general consensus that $5 is proably what the market will bear for a standard midi implementation. So in order to 'earn' the $10 I'm working on going above and beyond in some pretty significant ways. I've got some great stuff going into the midi out implementation that you guys will enjoy a lot. For midi in, still need to work out what it could be.
@keebo Thanks for the detailed thoughts. This helps me figure out where people are coming from when they expect midi included 'in the box', and helps me message accordingly. I think there's a conflation of two meanings of the word 'standard' as in 'to support a standard' vs 'to include something as standard'. AA batteries are a standard but many devices that use them don't include them in the box. And yes, most guitars don't include midi as standard but you can buy midi pickups after the fact. This is because midi pickups are too expensive to be included in all guitars (since many won't use them). It's the same way with guitar apps - I'd have to bump up the price if I included midi, which wouldn't be good for the majority of guitarism users who would never touch this feature. On the other hand, the majority of synth app users would probably use midi, so it makes sense to include that in the price of the app.
Ok this is pretty crazy interesting. guitarism sales were trending down over the last few days. Not sure why. Then yesterday, OMGuitar 2 launched, and guitarism sales... shot up!?! OMGuitar is perhaps the most direct competitor to guitarism so far, and has a ton of great features, so I'd have expected guitarism sales to collapse, not the other way round. It looks like our users consider us complementary, not substitutes...
Maybe its because of the "users also bought" strip in the app store?
@boone51 That's what I first thought, but I don't see that strip under OMGuitar on my iPad App Store or desktop iTunes. Do you?
No "Customers Also Bought" row for OMGuitar in iTunes for me. Instead a "More from Amidio" row. Maybe because they have lots of apps. Maybe Guitarism appeared on the "Customers Also Bought" column on the iTunes receipt. I'll know in a day or so. Maybe there is a giant silent group of spendy lurkers watching this forum.
"Huh, this app is really fun! I wonder if there are other guitar apps for iPad?"
@syrupcore That sounds right. I'm more and more convinced that if we "competitors" came together and cross-promoted each other (within reason) we'll improve everyone's revenue.
I'd love to be able to switch off 'faster == louder' right now. I want to simulate strumming hard and slow. Specifically, I'm writing something that I would play on the guitar at equal volume/velocity that has both strums and specific strings.
Options suck, guitarism is wonderful as is. Just came across it, am a little frustrated/wishing and thought I'd share in this thread's spirit of sharing.
Meaning: don't change a thing and I got my money's worth ten times over. Just FYI.
FYI the faster == louder isn't a straight linear function. Very slow strums are designed to be as loud as individual string picking, kinda for the style I think you're talking about. But of course if you're trying it and its not working for you there's clearly something missing. The midi in+out IAP(s?) will definitely let you do what you're trying to do.
: )
Question for folks outside the US and Canada: if you search the app store for "guitarism" do you see any other apps in the search results? Please confirm yes or no including whether you're searching from iPhone, iPad or desktop iTunes.
It comes up with your app plus OMGuitar and Futulele, searched on iPad in UK.
Same result as Phil in UK with my iPad.
If I search omguitar, 6 apps show none of which is Guitarism.
If I search for guitar...Guitarism is #35
Confirmed
UK
iPad
Same result with the guys above, Greek appstore iPad
Ditto for uk ipad
Guitarism and futulele showing on iphone
Thanks for confirming guys. Looks like someone is misusing keywords.
FYI, every iOS app gets 99 characters worth of keywords (not visible to end users) that factor heavily into App Store search results. Apps are not allowed to use other apps' names in their keywords, though Apple's review process doesn't always catch this. Time to follow up.
Hey Rhism, I know you are currently working with getting MIDI for Guitarism, but I haven't read anywhere whether you are also concurrently working on some electric guitar sample sets for IAP. I like the acoustic guitar and all, but I'm really aching to get some good electric guitar sounds that will be enhanced further by effects. :-) Do you have anything currently in the works that will be coming soon? Thanks!
@Audiojunkie Yes the next two IAPs will be "expanded sounds" and "custom chords", not yet sure of the order
Expanded sounds first please! :-) Any approximate time frame when we might see them? I'm really looking forward to getting them. :-)
That is so effing lame. Glad I don't own either of those apps.