Loopy Pro: Create music, your way.
What is Loopy Pro? — Loopy Pro is a powerful, flexible, and intuitive live looper, sampler, clip launcher and DAW for iPhone and iPad. At its core, it allows you to record and layer sounds in real-time to create complex musical arrangements. But it doesn’t stop there—Loopy Pro offers advanced tools to customize your workflow, build dynamic performance setups, and create a seamless connection between instruments, effects, and external gear.
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I hear ya @JMSexton. Size, skins, and sexy does matter :-) .
Just thinking out loud here. Imagine 12 major chords initially (or optionally). Top left arrow switches to 12 minor chords, top right arrow switches to 7th chords. Middle left arrow is sus2 chords while middle right arrow is sus4 chords. Bottom (unless you really want to add more) left arrow is dim chords and so on. All chords are user defined as is currently.
Totally understand if users (and the developer) find this unappealing.
Regardless, this app is awesome.
@Hmtx Thanks man. :-)
@Keebo When you say "update images" what do you mean exactly? If you mean the skins then @JMSexton is right. But with IAP's, even free IAP's, you can avoid the size issue. and yeah, there will be more skins. ;-) If you mean the icon and intro screen, not too sure.. It had crossed my mind that now that Guitarism has left the realm of being just an acoustic guitar that it might need to change at some point. @Rhism and I have not discussed it yet though.
Skins is what I was referring to. The icon and intro screen are fine with me.
@ungifted You can change your name to gifted now.
@Rhism, I'll have a proper look at the guide later, but I did skim through it last night and was impressed that you'd taken the time to actually explain everything in simple terms - I think it will be very useful for many people. I'll give you some further feedback when I have a chance to read it properly.
Superb demos, that should sell the IAP to most people who see them!
@Ryan thanks for posting the vids - I'd forgotten how inspired and inspiring they are. I need to try that Yamaha Pacifica again, it might make me eat my words on strumming an electric over MIDI
@Ungifted Thanks, awesome video and yes it's time for a name change
@Michael_R_Grant Yep no rush, it's a lengthy tome
@Keebo Yeah I was determined to charge for MIDI, and after seeing the kind of backlash that tends to attract I figured it needs to be crazy good to be worth paying for
So now everyone wins. But honestly this is the reason some other apps have very basic MIDI implementations - they're afraid to charge for it due to backlash so they spend the bare minimum effort to get it working, put it into the app for free and then move on. The more acceptance we can get around IAPs as a concept, the more innovation we'll see from the dev community. It's really basic capitalism - promise of reward leads to motivatation which leads to effort and innovation.
Wrt additional chords, there are really 3 reasons people want more than 6 chords on screen:
1) To be able to add variations to their 6 primary chords such as sus2, sus4, 7ths etc. This is what the current secondary chords feature is based on (and on iPhone it's called tilted chords, so instead of pressing arrows you tilt the phone left and right)
2) To actually use more than 6 primary chords in the song, especially for songs that have a key change or a particularly complex chord progression. The current secondary / tilted chords feature can be used for this, though it's not ideal since it's a bit awkward to use a secondary / tilted chord for any extended duration. I hope to improve on this soon.
3) When you are composing / songwriting and not yet sure what the final chords in the song will be. This is a scenario that guitarism not particularly focused on right now - it's more of a live performance app than a composition app. I hope to add a composition mode at some point in the future (probably via IAP) which would definitely have a lot more chord boxes, and hopefully some creative way to navigate or guide the user on suggested chords etc.
@mgmg4871 "What will be awesome is when we can bypass the effects slot in AB on desired inputs, so Jamup or Ampkit etc can be used solely for guitar." Agreed. I keep running into scenarios where I want to use JamUp or AmpKit for just one of the input apps but not the others. I'm pretty sure the AB engine would be able to handle that but I think it's pretty hard for them to create a simple UX to enable this without making it too confusing. Still, the scenario is definitely there. Perhaps just a switcher in the effect slot which chooses between the input apps (and an "All" option to connect to all of them). @Sebastian?
I like the sound of a composition mode - even more goodies to look forward to with this great app!
I just purchased the Triple Play IAP and it has asked me to "register" via Facebook. Uh, I don't use FB. What is this all about? I seriously hope this step is not necessary in any way.
No it isn't.
Brilliant work @Rhism. Some big companies can learn one or two lessons from you.
I've now had a little time to play with "Triple Play" and it works like a charm! Very easy to set everything up and it all works very smoothly. I did briefly have an issue with sustained sounds going on forever before realising there is an option to mirror fret muting on the chords and bass. And most of all, it just sounds epic! Works well with three different sounds set up in Sampletank as an example, but the options to mix and match are virtually limitless.
@MrNezumi I'd put in that registration prompt a while back so that in case I make an Android version I can transfer IAP purchases. But to be honest that's pretty hypothetical, and I can see it's pretty annoying, so I'm just going to remove it in the next update.
A (hopefully minor) request: can Guitarism please rotate with the iPad, at least for landscape modes? It is upside down on my Logitech Ultrathin keyboard which requires the magnetic edge down to do its thing. Minor niggle, but still a niggle.Otherwise, yeah, thanks!
@dwarman It doesn't auto-rotate since people can move around a lot while playing, but you can change the default orientation from the settings screen. Main Menu -> Gear icon -> change Home Button: Left to Home Button: Right
The iPad also sits on its volume button when upside down. Ouch my ears!
So re Triple Play registering via FaceBook - what does one not get by not registering? Or what else is one opened up to by registering?
@Rhism: thanks, found it. Understand the reasoning too.
@dwarman Registering or not registering after IAP purchase doesn't really change anything right now, it was a future-proofing thing on my part to transfer IAPs to future Android versions of the app since I can associate your purchase with your account on my server. It's kinda irrelevant right now and might always be irrelevant so I'm just going to take it out next update.
Hmm I never understood why so many people rejected facebook stuff. But holy heck, super obvious that it's an issue for a lot of people.
Thanks for the explanation @Rhism. Comp mode sounds interesting.
@Ryan, speaking from personal experience I can say FB could have easily caused me to be involved in an unwarranted lawsuit due to a misguided post from an employee (ex employee now, thank goodness). His father saw the post and demanded he retract it. Of course I didn't see the post but was informed of it by another employee.
There are other petty reasons why I dislike FB but I'll not derail this thread further. More power to those who find it enjoyable or necessary for commercial use. I just hope non FB users are not required to join in order to reap the rewards of app developments.
@Keebo I understand that aspect of it. A lot of people also feel like their privacy is in jeopardy. But I think facebook is what you make of it. In all honesty, you could make a profile just to sign in to an app and call it "keebo keebo" or something, don't friend anyone and there wouldn't be any issues. Or if it were privacy you were worried about you have the option to never say or do anything that you didn't want the world to know. I think that's a good practice for the internet in general. But at the same i do agree that apps shouldn't use facebook. @Rhism what do you think of hosting your own server to handle log ins? I imagine we could arrange something like that. :-)
@Ryan I get the FB hate - personally I dislike FB-connected apps too. It's just that for a developer, it's an order of magnitude easier to use FB connect instead of creating user accounts, managing passwords, authenticating accounts, handling password recovery etc. But I do want to add email-based registration. The backend I'm using has support for it, it's just a matter of taking out the time to do it.
There are two separate issues being discussed here. One is that guitarism requests FB registration after an IAP purchase. That was a misguided thing on my part, and I'm going to remove this until it actually provides a real benefit (e.g. I actually make an Android version that I want to let you transfer your IAPs to).
The second is that for using Rhism Nation (publishing recordings, favoriting recordings etc) you need to register and right now Rhism only allows FB registration, not email-based. One of the reasons I did this was ease of development. The other was that eventually I want Rhism Nation to be this awesome community where people are recording and sharing tracks from all kinds of instrument apps and it allows collaboration, friendly competition, teaching each other stuff, etc etc. For the "competition" part I wanted to prevent cheating (i.e. people rating their own stuff up from fake accounts), and FB login is a good way to prevent cheating since you can make lots of fake email accounts but it's much harder to make multiple fake FB accounts. That said, I've recently discovered ways to discourage email-based cheating too, so that is no longer a concern. So... yeah, will fix that, but I'm guessing most of y'all don't really use Rhism Nation all that much, it's more of a casual user thing (right?)
"but I'm guessing most of y'all don't really use Rhism Nation all that much, it's more of a casual user thing (right?)"
Holy cow, I never even checked out Rhism Nation until now mostly because I didn't know what it was. I figured FB was required to log on so I just skipped it. I'm glad I did because watching the performances was very enlightening. Thanks for not requiring FB to enjoy this feature.
Nice implementation, @Rhism. I don't do much of the cover thing but this is quite a remarkable way of seeing and hearing other's rendition of songs. I haven't yet tried out all of the available songs but the ones I have sound quite nice. I don't recognize some of the songs and was wondering if there were some songs that were original?
Does one have to be on FB to contribute? Sorry if this is in the documentation as Guitarism is so easy to use I haven't had to read it.
Again, great job on this great app. I wish you much success.
@Keebo I should change the text on that button, "Rhism Nation" is pretty meaningless to most users. Even if it was "guitarism nation" that might mean more, or "guitarism community" or even just "community".
Yes, you need a Rhism account (which is currently FB-only) to publish to RN (Rhism Nation) or to favorite other peoples' performances, but you can still watch and download presets without an account. Once you publish, you can also share audio-only or audio+video of your performance with non-guitarism friends. It helps make the app accessible to non-musicians, since you can watch someone else play a song and then download their chords to try it yourself. There are over a thousand recordings up there (mix of covers and originals) so don't worry about trying to watch "all" of them!
Agreed that many of them are pretty good - they make me want to sing along, which is my subjective bar for "pretty good". When I add email-based Rhism account registration that'll probably increase the usage on RN which might make the app more viral.
Guitarism the core app doesn't have any documentation yet
It just has a lightweight tips system that can be disabled - so far the goal has been to keep it simple enough to not need anything else. Triple Play has a doc, because I explicitly made that feature for a much more hardcore user group (i.e. you guys) with lots of configuration options, and some of those options warrant explanation.
BTW in case you guys haven't tried out the Polyphony setting in Triple Play, give it a shot - it's a great way to arpeggiate long-sustain instruments on the guitar notes output (e.g. TJ Cello sounds fantastic with arpeggiated picking and Polyphony=2)
Aw man don't be getting all corporate on us! "Community" is so PC. Rhism Nation is cool and indie. It's like your icon, it used be lo-fi, like you took a photo and used a line-art filter on it because you can't draw - which is cool and edgy IMHO. Now it's Yet Another Guitar App Icon (sorry Ryan!).
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Thanks for the polyphony tip - I'm generally pleasantly surprised at how well it all works with sustained sounds, especially using the fret muting technique. And i've tried quite a few TJ sounds, awesome!
@Bob_Bobaluba LOL there's truth to what you say. But I prefer my "indie-ness" to come out in how things work, not how they look. E.g. Smart Strings is the indie-est thing ever - tons of people dislike how the strings keep moving around, but I believe in it, I'm sticking to it. Similarly, I will probably never have more than 6 chord buttons on the main guitar screen despite this being the single most common request I hear day in and day out. Composition mode will have more buttons but this will hopefully be so different that it may as well be a separate app.
I did tell @Ryan when we started that if we're doing realistic visuals it better be the best-looking realistic on the App Store, and he didn't disappoint. So IMHO it's the best of the "Yet Another Guitar App" icons. E.g. Smule came out with a new (really good) casual consumer guitar strumming app yesterday, and I actually like Ryan's guitarism icon (and general app images) better than theirs. And they are a multi-million dollar company! That's why I call him a world-class graphic artist.