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Strange is that almost at least in half of all videos i see from composers and audio productions they use Logic.
It is also almost always the top payed app in my country. It can´t be so bad for them
Yeah I see a lot of people post about using Ableton and FL. But I see quite a lot of videos of people using Logic. They just don’t pimp out the software like the gamer-producer generation.
So we were supposed to get Logic on iOS but we got a remote instead. If I was promised a tv and was given a remote I’d probably lose it!
They never promised to give us logic.
It was a leak from a seemingly reliable person..
He also stated that he doesn’t know when apple will release it
If this only come to iOS.... I’ll pay full price..
Mmmm you have the lite version of that for some parts at Garageband iOS...
I don’t think that was it
If you analyse the new additions to Logic you can see that it’s quite touch friendly (bigger buttons) and even the window format more or less looks like an iPad screen ratio. Plus the major new feature comes from GarageBand for iOS.
My assumption is that all new additions for Logic in the future will be made with iPadOS in mind so that it’s easier to Port things over.
So the Logic update even encourages me that there will be an iPadOS version.
Seems he is under a NDA..
Yes, “I think it’s coming to iOS sooner than we think”... 😃
.> @RajahP said:
Yeah, I have that feeling as well. Henny is one of the few people that Apple would have to seriously consider putting on the beta test of the app.
And again, it's not far fetched for Logic to come to iPad OS. Logic remote was mainly designed for iPhone users to control their Mac, and potentially iPads. It could also work for iPads on slide over view (if it doesn't already)
Excellent points @jacou
What does that do that several existing iOS apps don't do? I watched that video and I can do all of that in Zenbeats right now
I guess it's also genre specific. The music I make these days is all based in electronic and hip hop and anytime I'm looking for tutorials on YouTube or forums they are usually using Ableton or FL
I think ,first step for Apple is switching to ARM based MacBooks ,then we’ll see
Why not both? And they've already designed some the UI for Logic on iPad OS. Did you see the way the remote apps look on the iPad?
It will be easier to compile for the same platform (ARM)
The logic update does look cool. I’m going to hold off for the moment because I’m trying to finish a few projects. I don’t really do much electronic music, even though I pretend I do sometimes, but I can see how some of these new things will be a help for what I do.
I do enjoy the live loops in ios, its a cool way to try out different options before committing to an arrangement. Honestly, I forget logic has so many loops and such, I think I need to investigate them more. There’s so much in it and I’ve just scratched the surface. I did my first recording to logic yesterday from a digico sd9 via madi, it was flawless. Interesting challenge to record piano and string quartet where they all need to be 6 feet from each other!
Guess in a way you are right.. Plus Zen has Ableton Link S/S.. Maybe an update to Zen’s drummer.. probability ...
Guess I’ll just hope it comes to iOS..
Zen is great..🍷
I mean, if Apple ports full version to iPadOS 14 (maybe we’ll have an advance file system then)
Then all other current daws on AppStore gunna have to adapt, or try to port their full versions.
iPad Pro already has the gpu an cpu of like Mbp 2 years ago, mouse support, external drive support. The only thing it needs is 16gb of ram, then kontakt komplete comes to iPadOS, load 100gb sample library from external ssd, have 100s of instrument tracks and stuff thanks to 16gb of ram.
I wonder if producers would swap out their mbps for iPads pros on the go. A lot of producers bring their mbp with them to studios, and on the go to do beats in Logic, mbps have all the vst,au and 3rd party support for various plugins, I think these will start to support iPadOS soon after, but apple is gunna need those 3rd party devs to start porting if they want to see producers adopt iOS
It will be a balancing task. They can not loose other pro apps on the Mac (Photoshop, Cubase etc.) otherwise not too many people would buy Macs. First ARM Mac will be probably an entry level Macbook. That way they give time (years?) for developers to develop PRO apps for the ARM Macs. Without software, hardware is useless. Once they have enough Pro apps for the ARM Macs, Intel period will be over.
So....they updated Logic with ios Garageband features, i hope they do it the other way too. It’s been over 2 years since a major ios Garageband update. Maybe at WWDC next month?
I am now ready to buy a new Macbook Pro 13”. I know Logic is staying for awhile, they just spent a lot of time and energy on this latest update. Maybe an ipad pro later this year too if Garageband ios will get updated.
I honestly don't know much about the development side but you can already run Windows 10 on ARM processors and run regular Windows applications so I think it's more of an operating system level thing that needs to change for developers more then the developers writing the applications. But I'm not a software engineer so I can definitely be wrong about that. I've also seen a lot of benchmarks where top end apple mobile processors outperform Intel desktop chips now.
Ive seen benchmarks where some fat guy outperforms usain bolt, reality is somewhat different, and the currently Publicly available ARM chips are no where near performing to desktop standards, and any benchmarks that say otherwise are very carefully scripted, that said, better ARM chips are coming, and some not yet publicly available are starting to be competitive.
Windows 10 on ARM doesnt natively run desktop apps, it Has an interpolated layer.
Non of which matters, Logic is never coming to iOS, unless they decide to rename Garageband to Logic Lite or something.
They already have the components to successfully implement Logic. Garageband for iOS works, and they updated the UI for their Logic Remote app. Third party apps supported will be AUv3, not IAA, which brings them in line to their desktop counterparts.
3rd party Desktop PC synth apps which are NOT on iOS which would run would either be their “Sampler” technology sampling the instruments used in their DAW under the EXS technology (effects and all), or doing a “freeze track” as with what happens in Garageband (Optimizing Performance).
What I’m saying is that it’ll be pointless to do a direct port from PC to iPad OS. That version was designed for PC, and is probably not even efficient (since it has a ton of legacy code that was not designed for Swift). All Apple needs to do is mimic the Logic environment from a UI feel, while making it support .band files that were created in Logic PC (and Garageband iOS/Mac OS). And, speaking as a scripter who has looked at these files, it’s not as complex as you might think.
About the LPX on iPad... I just don't see it. Why would they do that? They're already getting $200 for LPX on macOS, why have an iPadOS version to compete? And, Garageband already does a quite a bit what LPX does. They develop a new version of Logic Remote when they know they're also launching LPX on iPad OS? I don't see it.
It'd be cool, but it seems like it'd need to be stripped down version for a smaller touch screen... and Garageband is already that.
Unless... they're not going to sell it any more and go full-on subscription that gets you access to both macOS & iPadOS versions like they've been aggressively trying to get devs to do for a couple years now. If they go subscription... that will kinda suck I think. But, I don't know any other plausible rationale for bringing LPX to the iPad.
They may do that with FCPX. I hope they don't because I love Lumafusion.
What they may do is some creative FCPX/LPX creative suite that gets you access to both macOS & iPadOS versions of both FCPX & LPX that's subscription-only like Adobe has done.
Fingers crossed I'm wrong.
Looks too happy to simply be speculating.... far too happy... ...
Well, we vote with out wallets. I doubt the software would be what they would sell (pleanty of other excellent DAWs you can get on iOS). They could sell services though (subscriptions for additional software, sample packs, cloud storage that synchronizes with platforms like Splice, etc)
Again, even if Logic does come to iOS, it won’t and shouldn’t stop other apps from existing. Cubasis 3 is heading in an excellent direction, Auria is currently the king of production, Nanostudio is (hopefully) getting audio tracks, and Zenbeats is coming up to be the great uniter for a lot of systems. Beatmaker was planning on moving to Mac OS anyways. Garageband is pretty much going to stay as is (maybe with a few updates to keep iOS). And other innovative DAWs like Jamm Pro, Blocs Wave will still allow you to produce.
Again, just because Ableton exists, doesn’t mean that Logic, Garageband, Cakewalk, Reaper, FL Studio, and even LUNA shouldn’t exist.
According to, again, recent speculation.. all 2021 MBPs should have ARM chips. Which does bring us closer to parity between OS and iOS but i think the 1st step will be running iOS apps on Macs. Then down the line when both OS's are closer to each other...maybe some back and forth with apps..
My main problem with Prossers tweet was that it was coming in the next year or so... a lot would have to change in that time. Would this version of Logic run AU's AND AUv3's ? also where does that leave GarageBand?
I did not read the thread, but I have 2 questions:
1- did LPX will only need a top of the line iPad to work properly?
2- I know it’s a guessing game, but, what will be the price of the app?
My guess is 65,99$
My guess is higher. $79.99 to $99.99, but people who have Logic on Mac may get a discount.