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  • edited July 2020

    @anickt said:

    @Sergiu said:

    @syrupcore said:
    Is it possible to record MIDI CC automation from a hardware controller to a MIDI track? Is it possible to have it captured automatically when recording notes (without specifying anything first ala Cubasis)?

    +1

    Yes but you do have to MIDI learn whatever parameters you want to control. That takes a second.

    And right after I do that, the sound I was working on ( external auv3 synth) will jump to a default state... all tweaking I worked on previously is gone . Can someone confirm that?

  • @Samu said:
    I can't wait for something like ZenCore to be 'built-in' into ZenBeats...
    ...I've been using the old iOS SoundCanvas app as a sound-module and then I forgot that ZenBeats can't host IAA's so I can forget everything about freezing a track :(

    C'Mon Roland give us ZenCore for iOS :D
    (They could start by bringing in the SoundCanvas AUv3. It's only what <60MB or so in size).

    @Samu: Be careful what you wish for .. It could be even more than what you envision. How about Zen Core AND Roland Cloud in ios?

  • Heaven!> @Telstar5 said:

    @Samu said:
    I can't wait for something like ZenCore to be 'built-in' into ZenBeats...
    ...I've been using the old iOS SoundCanvas app as a sound-module and then I forgot that ZenBeats can't host IAA's so I can forget everything about freezing a track :(

    C'Mon Roland give us ZenCore for iOS :D
    (They could start by bringing in the SoundCanvas AUv3. It's only what <60MB or so in size).

    @Samu: Be careful what you wish for .. It could be even more than what you envision. How about Zen Core AND Roland Cloud in ios?

  • @Telstar5 said:

    Be careful what you wish for .. It could be even more than what you envision. How about Zen Core AND Roland Cloud in ios?

    As long as it's not a mandatory subscription service I'd be ok with it...
    ...I'd rather buy the individual AUv3 instruments as separate purchases.

    I would accept the base Zenology AUv3 for around $29.99 and additional $9.99 IAP for each of the expansion instruments / editors, but no damned monthly subscriptions as those make me irk big time.

    Also I do not like any kind of spyware on my computer which most of the 'cloud managers' are since they track usage...
    (That goes for Korg, Roland, iLock etc. etc.). The more 'anti-piracy/protection' apps have the more likely I'll be hunting down 'clean' k'ed version of the apps, those do exist...

    Why punish the paying customer when every single protection schema will be worked around sooner or later anyway...

    Cheers!

  • noobquestion: has Zenbeats MCU (or any other) protocoll support?

  • wimwim
    edited July 2020

    @eineruntervielen said:
    noobquestion: has Zenbeats MCU (or any other) protocoll support?

    I really don’t think so.

    You can midi map many controls though.

  • Someone should look over the midi cc mapping with external controller...it's not working properly.
    As soon as you assign a parameter ( which by the way...I suggest changing the colors/layout) on parameter list...the synth will jump to a default preset or state.

  • @Sergiu said:
    Someone should look over the midi cc mapping with external controller...it's not working properly.
    As soon as you assign a parameter ( which by the way...I suggest changing the colors/layout) on parameter list...the synth will jump to a default preset or state.

    I’m not seeing that.
    What synth and what controller?

  • edited July 2020

    delete

  • Hi!
    Yet another question for Zen gurus here.
    I’m really confused about recording synths/fix automation. Can’t figure it out. I’ve looked around for video tutorials and can’t find it.
    I mean recording knob/parameter movement live. In 2 ways:

    • physical controller (Midi learn?)
    • UI knob tweak (AUV3 plugin controls vs Zenbeats parameter display).
      As far as I recall Zenbeats is picky about what it will record and you have to do a few “preps”. I’m pretty sure I’ve recorded automation before, I can’t tell if it’s me or some dude in a video anymore!!.
      Cheers!
  • @wim said:

    @Sergiu said:
    Someone should look over the midi cc mapping with external controller...it's not working properly.
    As soon as you assign a parameter ( which by the way...I suggest changing the colors/layout) on parameter list...the synth will jump to a default preset or state.

    I’m not seeing that.
    What synth and what controller?

    Every auv3 I am using...controller I have a akai lpd8, launch control xl, 2 faderfoxes ...
    Is it a setting somewhere ?

  • @Sergiu said:

    @wim said:

    @Sergiu said:
    Someone should look over the midi cc mapping with external controller...it's not working properly.
    As soon as you assign a parameter ( which by the way...I suggest changing the colors/layout) on parameter list...the synth will jump to a default preset or state.

    I’m not seeing that.
    What synth and what controller?

    Every auv3 I am using...controller I have a akai lpd8, launch control xl, 2 faderfoxes ...
    Is it a setting somewhere ?

    Typically everything works as expected for me with external mapping. I usually use an LPD8 or a Nektar Impact. Can you give me a specific AU to test?

    I do recall something like that happening to me a couple of times. I find it easier to just draw in automation anyway so that’s my usual approach.

    Roland folks have told me they are working on updates to automation.

  • edited July 2020

    I know it’s old news but I Just redownloaded App and had a bunch of free stuff waiting in store. I believe Some of the free stuff expires tomorrow, for those who don’t know...

  • @Poppadocrock said:
    I know it’s old news but I Just redownloaded App and had a bunch of free stuff waiting in store. I believe Some of the free stuff expires tomorrow, for those who don’t know...

    The free mobile unlock is set to expire.

  • @Sergiu said:

    @wim said:

    @Sergiu said:
    Someone should look over the midi cc mapping with external controller...it's not working properly.
    As soon as you assign a parameter ( which by the way...I suggest changing the colors/layout) on parameter list...the synth will jump to a default preset or state.

    I’m not seeing that.
    What synth and what controller?

    Every auv3 I am using...controller I have a akai lpd8, launch control xl, 2 faderfoxes ...
    Is it a setting somewhere ?

    Try setting "Block All Raw MIDI CCs" to ON in the little "four squares" plugin menu at the top left. It should be the default though, so I don't know what could be happening for you.

    Are all those controllers attached at the same time? If so then maybe one of them is sending a Program Change or dumping a bunch of parameters. Or, maybe try disabling midi-out to be sure there's no midi loop going on. I dunno - just guessing here.

  • Last night i used Tal U No LX and encountered that behavior...> @anickt said:

    @Sergiu said:

    @wim said:

    @Sergiu said:
    Someone should look over the midi cc mapping with external controller...it's not working properly.
    As soon as you assign a parameter ( which by the way...I suggest changing the colors/layout) on parameter list...the synth will jump to a default preset or state.

    I’m not seeing that.
    What synth and what controller?

    Every auv3 I am using...controller I have a akai lpd8, launch control xl, 2 faderfoxes ...
    Is it a setting somewhere ?

    Typically everything works as expected for me with external mapping. I usually use an LPD8 or a Nektar Impact. Can you give me a specific AU to test?

    I do recall something like that happening to me a couple of times. I find it easier to just draw in automation anyway so that’s my usual approach.

    Roland folks have told me they are working on updates to automation.

  • @wim said:

    @Sergiu said:

    @wim said:

    @Sergiu said:
    Someone should look over the midi cc mapping with external controller...it's not working properly.
    As soon as you assign a parameter ( which by the way...I suggest changing the colors/layout) on parameter list...the synth will jump to a default preset or state.

    I’m not seeing that.
    What synth and what controller?

    Every auv3 I am using...controller I have a akai lpd8, launch control xl, 2 faderfoxes ...
    Is it a setting somewhere ?

    Try setting "Block All Raw MIDI CCs" to ON in the little "four squares" plugin menu at the top left. It should be the default though, so I don't know what could be happening for you.

    Are all those controllers attached at the same time? If so then maybe one of them is sending a Program Change or dumping a bunch of parameters. Or, maybe try disabling midi-out to be sure there's no midi loop going on. I dunno - just guessing here.

    Yes, that setting is on..
    Yes I have 5 midi controllers: Roland A49 midi keyboard. Akai lpd8, Novation Launchcontrol xl and Faderfox Pc12 & Mx12
    Thank you for the input!

  • @Sergiu said:

    @wim said:

    @Sergiu said:

    @wim said:

    @Sergiu said:
    Someone should look over the midi cc mapping with external controller...it's not working properly.
    As soon as you assign a parameter ( which by the way...I suggest changing the colors/layout) on parameter list...the synth will jump to a default preset or state.

    I’m not seeing that.
    What synth and what controller?

    Every auv3 I am using...controller I have a akai lpd8, launch control xl, 2 faderfoxes ...
    Is it a setting somewhere ?

    Try setting "Block All Raw MIDI CCs" to ON in the little "four squares" plugin menu at the top left. It should be the default though, so I don't know what could be happening for you.

    Are all those controllers attached at the same time? If so then maybe one of them is sending a Program Change or dumping a bunch of parameters. Or, maybe try disabling midi-out to be sure there's no midi loop going on. I dunno - just guessing here.

    Yes, that setting is on..
    Yes I have 5 midi controllers: Roland A49 midi keyboard. Akai lpd8, Novation Launchcontrol xl and Faderfox Pc12 & Mx12
    Thank you for the input!

    I'm still not clear whether they're all plugged in at the same time. If they are then my suggestion is to unplug them all, then try one at a time. I suspect one of them may be dumping parameters or sending Program Change, or something.

  • I see...Thank you again!> @wim said:

    @Sergiu said:

    @wim said:

    @Sergiu said:

    @wim said:

    @Sergiu said:
    Someone should look over the midi cc mapping with external controller...it's not working properly.
    As soon as you assign a parameter ( which by the way...I suggest changing the colors/layout) on parameter list...the synth will jump to a default preset or state.

    I’m not seeing that.
    What synth and what controller?

    Every auv3 I am using...controller I have a akai lpd8, launch control xl, 2 faderfoxes ...
    Is it a setting somewhere ?

    Try setting "Block All Raw MIDI CCs" to ON in the little "four squares" plugin menu at the top left. It should be the default though, so I don't know what could be happening for you.

    Are all those controllers attached at the same time? If so then maybe one of them is sending a Program Change or dumping a bunch of parameters. Or, maybe try disabling midi-out to be sure there's no midi loop going on. I dunno - just guessing here.

    Yes, that setting is on..
    Yes I have 5 midi controllers: Roland A49 midi keyboard. Akai lpd8, Novation Launchcontrol xl and Faderfox Pc12 & Mx12
    Thank you for the input!

    I'm still not clear whether they're all plugged in at the same time. If they are then my suggestion is to unplug them all, then try one at a time. I suspect one of them may be dumping parameters or sending Program Change, or something.

  • No problem.
    If that doesn't narrow it down to one of the controllers, then you might want to plug in all the controllers at once and in AUM send them all to a midi monitor like MidiSpy. If you move a controller and see only the one message playing back, not a bunch of extra stuff, then the problem is probably with Zenbeats. Maybe it just doesn't like more than a certain number of controllers.

  • i love some zenbeats but i keep getting crashes using auv3s , hopefully an ipad reboot will fix it. basically zen freezes then the audio unit just plays a distorted sound..
    save often !

  • @reasOne said:
    i love some zenbeats but i keep getting crashes using auv3s , hopefully an ipad reboot will fix it. basically zen freezes then the audio unit just plays a distorted sound..
    save often !

    What AUv3's?

  • @reasOne said:
    i love some zenbeats but i keep getting crashes using auv3s , hopefully an ipad reboot will fix it. basically zen freezes then the audio unit just plays a distorted sound..
    save often !

    I freeze a lot of tracks, then just unfreeze them when I need to make changes. This is mostly because of my older hardware, but may be a workaround for your issues. A save is required before each freeze, so, two birds with one stone.

  • @wim said:

    @reasOne said:
    i love some zenbeats but i keep getting crashes using auv3s , hopefully an ipad reboot will fix it. basically zen freezes then the audio unit just plays a distorted sound..
    save often !

    I freeze a lot of tracks, then just unfreeze them when I need to make changes. This is mostly because of my older hardware, but may be a workaround for your issues. A save is required before each freeze, so, two birds with one stone.

    don’t always make it far enough to freeze the track.. it’ll be while i’m still jamming out ideas, but i’ll def start to freeze whenever possible...

    @anickt my last session was bleass alpha where it froze , also with lagrange

  • @reasOne said:

    @wim said:

    @reasOne said:
    i love some zenbeats but i keep getting crashes using auv3s , hopefully an ipad reboot will fix it. basically zen freezes then the audio unit just plays a distorted sound..
    save often !

    I freeze a lot of tracks, then just unfreeze them when I need to make changes. This is mostly because of my older hardware, but may be a workaround for your issues. A save is required before each freeze, so, two birds with one stone.

    don’t always make it far enough to freeze the track.. it’ll be while i’m still jamming out ideas, but i’ll def start to freeze whenever possible...

    @anickt my last session was bleass alpha where it froze , also with lagrange

    What iOS? I think I’m seeing freezes in 13.6 in apps other than Zenbeats and maybe 1 or 2 in ZB but not related to any specific AU. I have to pay more attention! Maybe it has to do with iOS update? Anyone else?

  • Are you guys using Zenbeats stand alone or inside Aum?

  • @Sergiu said:
    Are you guys using Zenbeats stand alone or inside Aum?

    You can’t use it inside AUM.

  • @Sergiu said:
    I see...Thank you again!> @wim said:

    @Sergiu said:

    @wim said:

    @Sergiu said:

    @wim said:

    @Sergiu said:
    Someone should look over the midi cc mapping with external controller...it's not working properly.
    As soon as you assign a parameter ( which by the way...I suggest changing the colors/layout) on parameter list...the synth will jump to a default preset or state.

    I’m not seeing that.
    What synth and what controller?

    Every auv3 I am using...controller I have a akai lpd8, launch control xl, 2 faderfoxes ...
    Is it a setting somewhere ?

    Try setting "Block All Raw MIDI CCs" to ON in the little "four squares" plugin menu at the top left. It should be the default though, so I don't know what could be happening for you.

    Are all those controllers attached at the same time? If so then maybe one of them is sending a Program Change or dumping a bunch of parameters. Or, maybe try disabling midi-out to be sure there's no midi loop going on. I dunno - just guessing here.

    Yes, that setting is on..
    Yes I have 5 midi controllers: Roland A49 midi keyboard. Akai lpd8, Novation Launchcontrol xl and Faderfox Pc12 & Mx12
    Thank you for the input!

    I'm still not clear whether they're all plugged in at the same time. If they are then my suggestion is to unplug them all, then try one at a time. I suspect one of them may be dumping parameters or sending Program Change, or something.

    I tried Tal-U-No. I see what you’re saying. If you set up your mapping first and then choose the preset this won’t happen. Or if you add a mapping and you’ve already chosen a preset just use one of the arrows next to the preset display to move to an adjacent preset and back and it will be fine. I’ll investigate a little further when I get a chance but either of the above methods are an easy fix in the meantime.

  • Very helpful Anickt! So, I should midi assign first and after that I can move through. I realized not all auv3 apps are sharing their presets in their code ... so I could scroll through presets with Zenbeats’ arrows and not through the actual synth. Maybe this a developers’ code choice...not sure though. Thanks again> @anickt said:

    @Sergiu said:
    I see...Thank you again!> @wim said:

    @Sergiu said:

    @wim said:

    @Sergiu said:

    @wim said:

    @Sergiu said:
    Someone should look over the midi cc mapping with external controller...it's not working properly.
    As soon as you assign a parameter ( which by the way...I suggest changing the colors/layout) on parameter list...the synth will jump to a default preset or state.

    I’m not seeing that.
    What synth and what controller?

    Every auv3 I am using...controller I have a akai lpd8, launch control xl, 2 faderfoxes ...
    Is it a setting somewhere ?

    Try setting "Block All Raw MIDI CCs" to ON in the little "four squares" plugin menu at the top left. It should be the default though, so I don't know what could be happening for you.

    Are all those controllers attached at the same time? If so then maybe one of them is sending a Program Change or dumping a bunch of parameters. Or, maybe try disabling midi-out to be sure there's no midi loop going on. I dunno - just guessing here.

    Yes, that setting is on..
    Yes I have 5 midi controllers: Roland A49 midi keyboard. Akai lpd8, Novation Launchcontrol xl and Faderfox Pc12 & Mx12
    Thank you for the input!

    I'm still not clear whether they're all plugged in at the same time. If they are then my suggestion is to unplug them all, then try one at a time. I suspect one of them may be dumping parameters or sending Program Change, or something.

    I tried Tal-U-No. I see what you’re saying. If you set up your mapping first and then choose the preset this won’t happen. Or if you add a mapping and you’ve already chosen a preset just use one of the arrows next to the preset display to move to an adjacent preset and back and it will be fine. I’ll investigate a little further when I get a chance but either of the above methods are an easy fix in the meantime.

  • @Sergiu said:
    Very helpful Anickt! So, I should midi assign first and after that I can move through. I realized not all auv3 apps are sharing their presets in their code ... so I could scroll through presets with Zenbeats’ arrows and not through the actual synth. Maybe this a developers’ code choice...not sure though. Thanks again> @anickt said:

    @Sergiu said:
    I see...Thank you again!> @wim said:

    @Sergiu said:

    @wim said:

    @Sergiu said:

    @wim said:

    @Sergiu said:
    Someone should look over the midi cc mapping with external controller...it's not working properly.
    As soon as you assign a parameter ( which by the way...I suggest changing the colors/layout) on parameter list...the synth will jump to a default preset or state.

    I’m not seeing that.
    What synth and what controller?

    Every auv3 I am using...controller I have a akai lpd8, launch control xl, 2 faderfoxes ...
    Is it a setting somewhere ?

    Try setting "Block All Raw MIDI CCs" to ON in the little "four squares" plugin menu at the top left. It should be the default though, so I don't know what could be happening for you.

    Are all those controllers attached at the same time? If so then maybe one of them is sending a Program Change or dumping a bunch of parameters. Or, maybe try disabling midi-out to be sure there's no midi loop going on. I dunno - just guessing here.

    Yes, that setting is on..
    Yes I have 5 midi controllers: Roland A49 midi keyboard. Akai lpd8, Novation Launchcontrol xl and Faderfox Pc12 & Mx12
    Thank you for the input!

    I'm still not clear whether they're all plugged in at the same time. If they are then my suggestion is to unplug them all, then try one at a time. I suspect one of them may be dumping parameters or sending Program Change, or something.

    I tried Tal-U-No. I see what you’re saying. If you set up your mapping first and then choose the preset this won’t happen. Or if you add a mapping and you’ve already chosen a preset just use one of the arrows next to the preset display to move to an adjacent preset and back and it will be fine. I’ll investigate a little further when I get a chance but either of the above methods are an easy fix in the meantime.

    See screenshot. I chose that particular preset, did my mapping which killed the sound and then just tapped on the left arrow and then the right arrow to restore the originally chosen preset.

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