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Auditor - Audio Editor by Living Memory Software

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  • So a question for all you users:
    I am not a sample type person (not yet anyhow!) but I find the audio editor in Cubasis to be fairly basic and unintuitive.
    Would it be be fairly straightforward to use Auditor to edit an audio file I have just recorded in Cubasis?
    And can I do this within Cubasis (ie using Auditor as an AU within Cubasis rather than having to export/import etc)?
    Thanks

  • @TimRussell said:
    So a question for all you users:
    I am not a sample type person (not yet anyhow!) but I find the audio editor in Cubasis to be fairly basic and unintuitive.
    Would it be be fairly straightforward to use Auditor to edit an audio file I have just recorded in Cubasis?
    And can I do this within Cubasis (ie using Auditor as an AU within Cubasis rather than having to export/import etc)?
    Thanks

    The AU of Auditor is a file player. Auditor itself is standalone.

  • Yep loving this app more and more right now.

  • @Gravitas said:
    @LivingMemorySoftware

    A question.

    Can I use this to remove clicks in a recorded file.

    I'm still wondering if this app can be used
    to remove clicks from a recorded file.

    Thank you in advance.

  • edited February 2020

    @dendy said:

    @wim said:
    How about “vintage-ware”? ;)
    Or maybe “retro-ware”.

    AudioShare is "Perfectware" ... it's app which reached it's final stage, not needed update anymore.

    It is perfect for what it was mentioned. It's not audio editor. It's not complex audio recorder. It's Audio librarian (with additional simple audio editing and recording features just as bonus).

    Of course there will be always people asking for more. It's their choice.

    It is a terrible librarian for modern IOS, always duplicating instead of copy and paste, even in files app you can only duplicate from the Audioshare folder, even when you use cut paste or move it duplicates, developer was informed, did nothing, years later, abandonware.

    Just because something WAS good on an archaic version of IOS that had literally zero user file support, does not mean it is good as being sold now in modern iterations of IOS, with somewhat useful user file support (files.app)

    The developer of this software was ahead of the curve, but AUMs UI is terrible and its internal buffer seems overly large for something calling itself a mixer, his effects apps are at deaths door considering Apple moving away from IAA and Audioshare has plenty of issues, not least the ones mentioned.
    He should be applauded for constantly staying ahead of things with plugin support in AUM though, without him (and brambos) pretty much every other developer would be kicking around trying to work everything out.

    That said, Auditor with an AU effect stack and simple automation curves would blow every editor on IOS away for bass sample design, something that is such an absolute pain to do on IOS, it beggars belief.

    (PS, not aimed at Dendy especially, just first time reading through this thread and Audioshare being so terrible with duplication annoys me)

  • @Gravitas said:

    @Gravitas said:
    @LivingMemorySoftware

    A question.

    Can I use this to remove clicks in a recorded file.

    I'm still wondering if this app can be used
    to remove clicks from a recorded file.

    Thank you in advance.

    In the sense that you can zoom in at sample level and silence or fade a selected area, yes. But if you mean does it have special click detection/removal features, no.

    It is a great app for editing and compositing samples.

  • @espiegel123 said:

    @Gravitas said:

    @Gravitas said:
    @LivingMemorySoftware

    A question.

    Can I use this to remove clicks in a recorded file.

    I'm still wondering if this app can be used
    to remove clicks from a recorded file.

    Thank you in advance.

    In the sense that you can zoom in at sample level and silence or fade a selected area, yes. But if you mean does it have special click detection/removal features, no.

    It is a great app for editing and compositing samples.

    Exactly that.

    I know the likes of Soundforge and Wavelab are yet
    to hit the iOS platform so I'm not expecting
    click detection/removal but to be able to zoom
    in at sample levels is more than sufficient
    for now.

    Thank you @espiegel123

  • Auditor has become my go to. Very nice editor and batch processor.

  • Really coming along nicely. Getting closer to replacing DSP-Quattro for me.

    Few things:

    -Keyboard Shortcuts?
    -Support for Play/Stop with a keyboard spacebar?
    -Is there “Zero Crossing” snapping?

    Cheers

  • @Apex said:
    Really coming along nicely. Getting closer to replacing DSP-Quattro for me.

    Few things:

    -Keyboard Shortcuts?
    -Support for Play/Stop with a keyboard spacebar?
    -Is there “Zero Crossing” snapping?

    Cheers

    The release notes have a mention: “- Improved snap to zero crossing for playhead position”

  • I’m super happy to see the macro for auto trimming beginning and end. B)

  • @Apex said:
    Really coming along nicely. Getting closer to replacing DSP-Quattro for me.

    Few things:

    -Keyboard Shortcuts?
    -Support for Play/Stop with a keyboard spacebar?
    -Is there “Zero Crossing” snapping?

    Cheers

    There is both zero-crossing and transient snapping (which are deferrable)

  • @wim said:

    @Apex said:
    Really coming along nicely. Getting closer to replacing DSP-Quattro for me.

    Few things:

    -Keyboard Shortcuts?
    -Support for Play/Stop with a keyboard spacebar?
    -Is there “Zero Crossing” snapping?

    Cheers

    The release notes have a mention: “- Improved snap to zero crossing for playhead position”

    Hmmm, gotta experiment some more then.

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  • @Turntablist

    It is a terrible librarian for modern IOS, always duplicating instead of copy and paste, even in files app you can only duplicate from the Audioshare folder, even when you use cut paste or move it duplicates, developer was informed, did nothing, years later, abandonware.

    Duplication has nothing to do with AudioShare. It’s an iOS thing: when you move something from an app’s file-provider space, iOS makes a copy. There’s nothing a developer can do about it.

    Also, it doesn’t really make a duplicate. It’s more of an “alias”, so no extra space is taken up by these “duplicates.”

  • @mistercharlie said:
    @Turntablist

    It is a terrible librarian for modern IOS, always duplicating instead of copy and paste, even in files app you can only duplicate from the Audioshare folder, even when you use cut paste or move it duplicates, developer was informed, did nothing, years later, abandonware.

    Duplication has nothing to do with AudioShare. It’s an iOS thing: when you move something from an app’s file-provider space, iOS makes a copy. There’s nothing a developer can do about it.

    Also, it doesn’t really make a duplicate. It’s more of an “alias”, so no extra space is taken up by these “duplicates.”

    AudioShare and Dropbox and other file providers are a little different from what you describe. File provider apps (apps whose storage space shows up as a source/destination parallel to On My iPad) are like external hard drives. Files get copied rather than moved when going between file providers.

    Also, file data is moved /copied when you do that rather than the alias-like behavior when copying files visible On my IPad.

    It is how the OS works by design.

  • @StudioES said:
    I see Auditor has crossfade looping. Is the loop point data saved in the sample's metadata?
    If so, has anyone tried them in BM3? Does BM3 switch the loop to "LOOP ALTERNATED" when imported?
    Thanks.

    Interested in the answer to this as well.

  • @GrimLucky said:

    @StudioES said:
    I see Auditor has crossfade looping. Is the loop point data saved in the sample's metadata?
    If so, has anyone tried them in BM3? Does BM3 switch the loop to "LOOP ALTERNATED" when imported?
    Thanks.

    Interested in the answer to this as well.

    I just did a test. Auditor exports with loop points and BeatMaker sees them. It doesn't automatically switch to loop alternated -- but I don't know why it would. Keep in mind that the crossfade is destructive. It is committing a crossfaded overlap of the head and tail of the selected audio so that it will loop smoothly in situations where such crossfade overlap is the right solution for a loop.

  • @espiegel123 said:

    @GrimLucky said:

    @StudioES said:
    I see Auditor has crossfade looping. Is the loop point data saved in the sample's metadata?
    If so, has anyone tried them in BM3? Does BM3 switch the loop to "LOOP ALTERNATED" when imported?
    Thanks.

    Interested in the answer to this as well.

    I just did a test. Auditor exports with loop points and BeatMaker sees them. It doesn't automatically switch to loop alternated -- but I don't know why it would. Keep in mind that the crossfade is destructive. It is committing a crossfaded overlap of the head and tail of the selected audio so that it will loop smoothly in situations where such crossfade overlap is the right solution for a loop.

    Thanks, good to know, I was thinking about using pre-looped samples in Chameleon as I’ve struggled to get seamless looped instruments in the app. Might pick this up to give it a try.

  • @mistercharlie said:
    @Turntablist

    It is a terrible librarian for modern IOS, always duplicating instead of copy and paste, even in files app you can only duplicate from the Audioshare folder, even when you use cut paste or move it duplicates, developer was informed, did nothing, years later, abandonware.

    Duplication has nothing to do with AudioShare. It’s an iOS thing: when you move something from an app’s file-provider space, iOS makes a copy. There’s nothing a developer can do about it.

    Also, it doesn’t really make a duplicate. It’s more of an “alias”, so no extra space is taken up by these “duplicates.”

    Absolute nonsense, it creates a copy which takes up space, and no other app that uses the files app does that, it is because IOS sees Audioshare as a separate drive.
    BM3 files folders uses move perfectly, so does NS2, so does (list goes on and on here)

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  • @Turntablist said:

    Absolute nonsense,

    Are you this rude to people in real life, or just on internet forums?

    it creates a copy which takes up space, and no other app that uses the files app does that, it is because IOS sees Audioshare as a separate drive.

    Perhaps not:

    https://www.cultofmac.com/649268/duplicate-files-sizes-ios-file-providers/

  • How do you chop up drum loops with this?

    Like I have a drum loop and I added slices to all the parts I want
    Can you not export them as individual files?

    It seems to only export a single file?
    Do I have to move each slice to it’s own layer?

    Or can you not do that?

  • @ruggedsmooth said:
    How do you chop up drum loops with this?

    Like I have a drum loop and I added slices to all the parts I want
    Can you not export them as individual files?

    It seems to only export a single file?
    Do I have to move each slice to it’s own layer?

    Or can you not do that?

    Auditor is great for a great many things, but it isn't a slicer...yet. It isn't currently set up as a beat slicer although I think the dev has indicated that it may get some features for that. You can export a selection as a file. It would be cumbersome to export a lot of slices now.

    If you are looking for a slicer, there are better options at the moment.

  • @wim said:
    I’m super happy to see the macro for auto trimming beginning and end. B)

    @espiegel123 said:

    @ruggedsmooth said:
    How do you chop up drum loops with this?

    Like I have a drum loop and I added slices to all the parts I want
    Can you not export them as individual files?

    It seems to only export a single file?
    Do I have to move each slice to it’s own layer?

    Or can you not do that?

    Auditor is great for a great many things, but it isn't a slicer...yet. It isn't currently set up as a beat slicer although I think the dev has indicated that it may get some features for that. You can export a selection as a file. It would be cumbersome to export a lot of slices now.

    If you are looking for a slicer, there are better options at the moment.

    Yes, BM3 is much faster for slicing right now. I invested in Auditor with the hope that the developer will implement slicing--including batch slicing--at some later date. I'd love to batch process slicing a sample into four or eight smaller samples, perhaps with the ability to knock pops off the beginning and end of each sample with ramp up and ramp down on each end. That would be such a time saver.

  • @lukesleepwalker said:

    @wim said:
    I’m super happy to see the macro for auto trimming beginning and end. B)

    @espiegel123 said:

    @ruggedsmooth said:
    How do you chop up drum loops with this?

    Like I have a drum loop and I added slices to all the parts I want
    Can you not export them as individual files?

    It seems to only export a single file?
    Do I have to move each slice to it’s own layer?

    Or can you not do that?

    Auditor is great for a great many things, but it isn't a slicer...yet. It isn't currently set up as a beat slicer although I think the dev has indicated that it may get some features for that. You can export a selection as a file. It would be cumbersome to export a lot of slices now.

    If you are looking for a slicer, there are better options at the moment.

    Yes, BM3 is much faster for slicing right now. I invested in Auditor with the hope that the developer will implement slicing--including batch slicing--at some later date. I'd love to batch process slicing a sample into four or eight smaller samples, perhaps with the ability to knock pops off the beginning and end of each sample with ramp up and ramp down on each end. That would be such a time saver.

    I’d recommend contacting the dev with your requests via his web site. He reads his email but only very occasionally visits here.

  • Whenever I’ve needed a sample editor beyond the simple trim and conversions of AudioShare, I’ve always reached for Twisted Waves. Now that it’s been a little while, I’m curious if there are many former Twisted Wave users who Yes! now swear by Auditor, or no, ‘cuz they’re too different of tools, or no because there’s a lot of feature overlap and already comfy in Twisted Waves. Any feedback appreciated :smile:

  • @eustressor said:
    Whenever I’ve needed a sample editor beyond the simple trim and conversions of AudioShare, I’ve always reached for Twisted Waves. Now that it’s been a little while, I’m curious if there are many former Twisted Wave users who Yes! now swear by Auditor, or no, ‘cuz they’re too different of tools, or no because there’s a lot of feature overlap and already comfy in Twisted Waves. Any feedback appreciated :smile:

    I use Auditor for most of what I used Twisted Wave fir and for some things you can’t do at all in Twisted Wave. Twisted Wave doesn’t have layers or regions or non-destructive rearranging of a file or tempo-based editing or batch conversions or reconstituting slices into a single file.

  • @espiegel123 said:

    @lukesleepwalker said:

    @wim said:
    I’m super happy to see the macro for auto trimming beginning and end. B)

    @espiegel123 said:

    @ruggedsmooth said:
    How do you chop up drum loops with this?

    Like I have a drum loop and I added slices to all the parts I want
    Can you not export them as individual files?

    It seems to only export a single file?
    Do I have to move each slice to it’s own layer?

    Or can you not do that?

    Auditor is great for a great many things, but it isn't a slicer...yet. It isn't currently set up as a beat slicer although I think the dev has indicated that it may get some features for that. You can export a selection as a file. It would be cumbersome to export a lot of slices now.

    If you are looking for a slicer, there are better options at the moment.

    Yes, BM3 is much faster for slicing right now. I invested in Auditor with the hope that the developer will implement slicing--including batch slicing--at some later date. I'd love to batch process slicing a sample into four or eight smaller samples, perhaps with the ability to knock pops off the beginning and end of each sample with ramp up and ramp down on each end. That would be such a time saver.

    I’d recommend contacting the dev with your requests via his web site. He reads his email but only very occasionally visits here.

    Will do!

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