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  • So what to make of this app. Looks pretty cool. But has it been out a year? One crappy video and a website is about all i can find. Is there anything else out there to show it in action?

  • edited February 2022

    @Ailerom said:
    So what to make of this app. Looks pretty cool. But has it been out a year? One crappy video and a website is about all i can find. Is there anything else out there to show it in action?

    I’m curious too. I decided to bite the bullet any way as the reception on here seems great (which is ABF loves it, it’s gotta be good lol). I plan on posting back in a couple days with my thoughts on it.

  • @HotStrange said:

    @Ailerom said:
    So what to make of this app. Looks pretty cool. But has it been out a year? One crappy video and a website is about all i can find. Is there anything else out there to show it in action?

    I’m curious too. I decided to bite the bullet any way as the reception on here seems great (which is ABF loves it, it’s gotta be good lol). I plan on posting back in a couple days with my thoughts on it.

    That would great. Some video demos would be good. Strange that there is literally 1 basic video. Doesn't seem like really trying to sell it.

  • Can anyone tell me what sort of internal sounds to expect?

  • @Ailerom said:
    Can anyone tell me what sort of internal sounds to expect?

    Cant remember the internal sounds but just in case you didn't notice --- you can also use "any Audio Unit Extension Instrument available on the App Store."

  • edited February 2022

    @soundtemple said:

    @Ailerom said:
    Can anyone tell me what sort of internal sounds to expect?

    Cant remember the internal sounds but just in case you didn't notice --- you can also use "any Audio Unit Extension Instrument available on the App Store."

    Thanks, yes I saw that. Which is what made me wonder about the internal sounds. I feared maybe little effort went into those because of the connectivity.

  • There are quite a few internal instruments. Mostly acoustic/traditional types, not many synth types.
    The last image shows the internal drum kit types.
    Sound pretty good to me, like a decent sound font collection.



  • @Ailerom said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @Ailerom said:
    So what to make of this app. Looks pretty cool. But has it been out a year? One crappy video and a website is about all i can find. Is there anything else out there to show it in action?

    I’m curious too. I decided to bite the bullet any way as the reception on here seems great (which is ABF loves it, it’s gotta be good lol). I plan on posting back in a couple days with my thoughts on it.

    That would great. Some video demos would be good. Strange that there is literally 1 basic video. Doesn't seem like really trying to sell it.

    Sure! If I get a chance in between work I’ll screen record a session and post it back here 🤙

  • @Ailerom said:

    @soundtemple said:

    @Ailerom said:
    Can anyone tell me what sort of internal sounds to expect?

    Cant remember the internal sounds but just in case you didn't notice --- you can also use "any Audio Unit Extension Instrument available on the App Store."

    Thanks, yes I saw that. Which is what made me wonder about the integrals. I feared maybe little effort went into those because of the connectivity.

    As long as you don’t expect $3000 workstation quality, they’re pretty good. Mostly traditional instrument and GM/SF type sounds, but definitely usable.

  • @CracklePot said:
    There are quite a few internal instruments. Mostly acoustic/traditional types, not many synth types.
    The last image shows the internal drum kit types.
    Sound pretty good to me, like a decent sound font collection.

    Fantastic, thanks so much.

  • @HotStrange said:
    Sure! If I get a chance in between work I’ll screen record a session and post it back here 🤙

    Cool, surprised the developer isn't onto more of that.

  • @Ailerom said:

    @HotStrange said:
    Sure! If I get a chance in between work I’ll screen record a session and post it back here 🤙

    Cool, surprised the developer isn't onto more of that.

    No problem! Messed around a little last night and actually had a lot of fun. AU hosting worked like a breeze, and it’s quick and easy to get something going. Won’t be off work for another day or 2 so will try and post something back by Wednesday.

  • edited February 2022

    I spent a week with it and I like that it accomplishes with one app what I have been doing with a Frankenstein Template in AUM consisting of several ArpBuds and other apps required to change programs.
    For the first time ever I’m employing export MIDI as part of a greater work flow. I always avoided that, but honestly never gave it a chance, and it’s not bad at all actually.

    However, be warned that at least a basic knowledge of theory is required. For example, despite designating a tonal key center, one is still free to arbitrarily choose any chord type for their progression.
    And the slash-chord inversion function seems broken. But at the same time it doesn’t even seem necessary. When inputting notes on the grid for chords, you can choose the first chord’s voicing. After that a chord will automatically invert if it’s logical.
    When using external sounds, auditioning a note or chord while the transport is stopped will play the built in sound patch instead of your external instrument. Just an annoyance.

    But when trying to make music only on my phone, I find this pretty useful.

    [Edit]

    Thanks at @CapnWillie for bringing this app some deserved attention. I need it for whenever I’m trying to be too clever with AUM.

  • @Blipsford_Baubie said:
    I spent a week with it and I like that it accomplishes with one app what I have been doing with a Frankenstein Template in AUM consisting of several ArpBuds and other apps required to change programs.
    For the first time ever I’m employing export MIDI as part of a greater work flow. I always avoided that, but honestly never gave it a chance, and it’s not bad at all actually.

    However, be warned that at least a basic knowledge of theory is required. For example, despite designating a tonal key center, one is still free to arbitrarily choose any chord type for their progression.
    And the slash-chord inversion function seems broken. But at the same time it doesn’t even seem necessary. When inputting notes on the grid for chords, you can choose the first chord’s voicing. After that a chord will automatically invert if it’s logical.
    When using external sounds, auditioning a note or chord while the transport is stopped will play the built in sound patch instead of your external instrument. Just an annoyance.

    But when trying to make music only on my phone, I find this pretty useful.

    [Edit]

    Thanks at @CapnWillie for bringing this app some deserved attention. I need it for whenever I’m trying to be too clever with AUM.

    Pretty much my feelings. It won’t replace AUM or CB3 for me but I’m excited to add it to the arsenal. It’s great for quickly putting something together with some AUs, and I can see myself continuing to use it going forward. Definitely one of those apps that was missing in my workflow and I didn’t even know it.

  • I gave this some deep thought and came up with, fuck it, I'm buying. So I did.

    A short time later I'm thinking it was a good purchase. Seems to do what I want pretty well.

    I only have 2 issues so far. Setting section loop or play to end should be per section, with an option to choose the number op loops.

    Also, the arp should show note not numbers. That just seems stupid to me. Probably the most annoying factor and one that will probably stop me from using the chords section at all.

  • I came to this thread wondering what I can use as an alternative to Scaler 2 on my iPhone.

    At first I thought that TuneMaker would be the solution, but then I look at the earlier ChordFlow, and I'm confused. Can anyone explain to me which would be the best move for me, or do I need both to have an alternative to Scaler? I'm hoping not.

    Both apps look great, and sound great in terms of what they're offering, but I'm not clear about which meets my needs.

    Help!

  • What's scaler not doing that you feel you need an alternative?

  • @andowrites said:
    I came to this thread wondering what I can use as an alternative to Scaler 2 on my iPhone.

    At first I thought that TuneMaker would be the solution, but then I look at the earlier ChordFlow, and I'm confused. Can anyone explain to me which would be the best move for me, or do I need both to have an alternative to Scaler? I'm hoping not.

    Both apps look great, and sound great in terms of what they're offering, but I'm not clear about which meets my needs.

    Help!

    What exactly are you wanting out of it? To just sequence chord progressions? I have both, but not Scaler (yet) so I can try to help the best I can.

  • @KirbyMumbo said:
    What's scaler not doing that you feel you need an alternative?

    I have it on my iPad, and I'm getting it for my laptop, but I don't have Scaler 2 for iPhone, as it's not available. So I want something that offers me similar learning capabilities and inspiration for learning to compose pieces as Scaler does, something that will help me learn a little hands on music theory. For iPhone specifically. Because I have Scaler on my iPad, but I want it in my pocket, wherever I go.

  • @andowrites said:

    @KirbyMumbo said:
    What's scaler not doing that you feel you need an alternative?

    I have it on my iPad, and I'm getting it for my laptop, but I don't have Scaler 2 for iPhone, as it's not available. So I want something that offers me similar learning capabilities and inspiration for learning to compose pieces as Scaler does, something that will help me learn a little hands on music theory. For iPhone specifically. Because I have Scaler on my iPad, but I want it in my pocket, wherever I go.

    Gotcha. Also, sorry I mistook Chordflow for the AudioModern app Chordjam (which is similar and also great). I will say Tunemaker is fun and can probably help a bit for learning but it’s strikes me more as a replacement for having to learn if that makes sense. Scaler has a lot of teaching tactics built in whereas I don’t get that feeling as much with Tunemaker. I’ll try to dive back into it for a bit tonight and see if I’m mistaken but that’s the vibe I got from it. Not that that’s a bad thing, it just doesn’t have the hands on/learning interface of Scaler.

  • @HotStrange said:

    @andowrites said:
    I came to this thread wondering what I can use as an alternative to Scaler 2 on my iPhone.

    At first I thought that TuneMaker would be the solution, but then I look at the earlier ChordFlow, and I'm confused. Can anyone explain to me which would be the best move for me, or do I need both to have an alternative to Scaler? I'm hoping not.

    Both apps look great, and sound great in terms of what they're offering, but I'm not clear about which meets my needs.

    Help!

    What exactly are you wanting out of it? To just sequence chord progressions? I have both, but not Scaler (yet) so I can try to help the best I can.

    Thanks. See my note above about what I'm looking for. But basically, I have Scaler on my iPad, and will get it for my laptop. I would have had it on my iPhone too, but it's not available for iPhone, so it leaves me looking for an alternative.

    I don't expect to get anything so full-featured as Scaler for iPadOS, but it would be nice to get the benefit.

    Something to help me learn some music theory. Something to help me learn and play more chords, and to create chord sequences, scales, and so forth. Particularly the creating of chord sequences.

  • @andowrites said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @andowrites said:
    I came to this thread wondering what I can use as an alternative to Scaler 2 on my iPhone.

    At first I thought that TuneMaker would be the solution, but then I look at the earlier ChordFlow, and I'm confused. Can anyone explain to me which would be the best move for me, or do I need both to have an alternative to Scaler? I'm hoping not.

    Both apps look great, and sound great in terms of what they're offering, but I'm not clear about which meets my needs.

    Help!

    What exactly are you wanting out of it? To just sequence chord progressions? I have both, but not Scaler (yet) so I can try to help the best I can.

    Thanks. See my note above about what I'm looking for. But basically, I have Scaler on my iPad, and will get it for my laptop. I would have had it on my iPhone too, but it's not available for iPhone, so it leaves me looking for an alternative.

    I don't expect to get anything so full-featured as Scaler for iPadOS, but it would be nice to get the benefit.

    Something to help me learn some music theory. Something to help me learn and play more chords, and to create chord sequences, scales, and so forth. Particularly the creating of chord sequences.

    Whoops I quoted the wrong thing but see my reply above. Hope that helps a little bit. If there’s anything in particular, let me know!

  • edited March 2023

    @HotStrange said:

    @andowrites said:

    @KirbyMumbo said:
    What's scaler not doing that you feel you need an alternative?

    I have it on my iPad, and I'm getting it for my laptop, but I don't have Scaler 2 for iPhone, as it's not available. So I want something that offers me similar learning capabilities and inspiration for learning to compose pieces as Scaler does, something that will help me learn a little hands on music theory. For iPhone specifically. Because I have Scaler on my iPad, but I want it in my pocket, wherever I go.

    Gotcha. Also, sorry I mistook Chordflow for the AudioModern app Chordjam (which is similar and also great). I will say Tunemaker is fun and can probably help a bit for learning but it’s strikes me more as a replacement for having to learn if that makes sense. Scaler has a lot of teaching tactics built in whereas I don’t get that feeling as much with Tunemaker. I’ll try to dive back into it for a bit tonight and see if I’m mistaken but that’s the vibe I got from it. Not that that’s a bad thing, it just doesn’t have the hands on/learning interface of Scaler.

    Thanks.

    It's worth noting that ChordJam also isn't available for iPhone iOS, as it's iPadOS and MacOS only.

  • I just came across Navichord, which might be a partial help to me. So I downloaded Navichord Lite to check it out a little.

    https://apps.apple.com/us/app/navichord-chord-sequencer/id916452748

  • edited March 2023

    @andowrites said:
    I just came across Navichord, which might be a partial help to me. So I downloaded Navichord Lite to check it out a little.

    https://apps.apple.com/us/app/navichord-chord-sequencer/id916452748

    Navichord is a great one! I only have the light version as well but I’ve heard lots of good things. Some other apps to look at: Suggester, ChordPadX, Tonality, Simplichords, Chord.

    Also after some further digging and diving back in, I can actually see TuneMaker being fairly useful for your needs. It has lots of chords, progressions, modes, etc laid out in a logical fashion and with 5ths, 7ths, and so on. Not super dissimilar to Scaler 2 in that way. And AU hosting is a big plus. I actually forgot how much I liked it. Comes with a bunch of built on soundfonts as well. And an arpeggiator. Guess I needed to dive in again to remember how useful it is.

    Here’s a screenshot

  • @andowrites said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @andowrites said:
    I came to this thread wondering what I can use as an alternative to Scaler 2 on my iPhone.

    At first I thought that TuneMaker would be the solution, but then I look at the earlier ChordFlow, and I'm confused. Can anyone explain to me which would be the best move for me, or do I need both to have an alternative to Scaler? I'm hoping not.

    Both apps look great, and sound great in terms of what they're offering, but I'm not clear about which meets my needs.

    Help!

    What exactly are you wanting out of it? To just sequence chord progressions? I have both, but not Scaler (yet) so I can try to help the best I can.

    Thanks. See my note above about what I'm looking for. But basically, I have Scaler on my iPad, and will get it for my laptop. I would have had it on my iPhone too, but it's not available for iPhone, so it leaves me looking for an alternative.

    I don't expect to get anything so full-featured as Scaler for iPadOS, but it would be nice to get the benefit.

    Something to help me learn some music theory. Something to help me learn and play more chords, and to create chord sequences, scales, and so forth. Particularly the creating of chord sequences.

    For creating of chord sequences the app "Suggester'is great.

  • https://apps.apple.com/app/suggester-chords-and-scales/id504740787

    Free, with a 17 bucks iap to unlock all features. I like to use it to drag chords (yes it supports drag and drop, slideover etc) into Tonality app's chord pads module. Tonality is another very useful app.

    BTW... My solution to not having apps on my phone (it's Android) is a very simple one - I usually bring my ipad out with me, along with a portable charger. Works for me, despite using the 12.9 inch one.

  • @Gavinski said:
    https://apps.apple.com/app/suggester-chords-and-scales/id504740787

    Free, with a 17 bucks iap to unlock all features. I like to use it to drag chords (yes it supports drag and drop, slideover etc) into Tonality app's chord pads module. Tonality is another very useful app.

    BTW... My solution to not having apps on my phone (it's Android) is a very simple one - I usually bring my ipad out with me, along with a portable charger. Works for me, despite using the 12.9 inch one.

    You can do drag and drop with the free version? That sounds much easier than creating layouts within Tonality (which like you said is a great app). The circle of fifths AU gets a decent bit of use from me.

  • @Gavinski said:

    @andowrites said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @andowrites said:
    I came to this thread wondering what I can use as an alternative to Scaler 2 on my iPhone.

    At first I thought that TuneMaker would be the solution, but then I look at the earlier ChordFlow, and I'm confused. Can anyone explain to me which would be the best move for me, or do I need both to have an alternative to Scaler? I'm hoping not.

    Both apps look great, and sound great in terms of what they're offering, but I'm not clear about which meets my needs.

    Help!

    What exactly are you wanting out of it? To just sequence chord progressions? I have both, but not Scaler (yet) so I can try to help the best I can.

    Thanks. See my note above about what I'm looking for. But basically, I have Scaler on my iPad, and will get it for my laptop. I would have had it on my iPhone too, but it's not available for iPhone, so it leaves me looking for an alternative.

    I don't expect to get anything so full-featured as Scaler for iPadOS, but it would be nice to get the benefit.

    Something to help me learn some music theory. Something to help me learn and play more chords, and to create chord sequences, scales, and so forth. Particularly the creating of chord sequences.

    For creating of chord sequences the app "Suggester'is great.

    Thanks Gav, I'm checking it out.

  • @Gavinski said:
    https://apps.apple.com/app/suggester-chords-and-scales/id504740787

    Free, with a 17 bucks iap to unlock all features. I like to use it to drag chords (yes it supports drag and drop, slideover etc) into Tonality app's chord pads module. Tonality is another very useful app.

    BTW... My solution to not having apps on my phone (it's Android) is a very simple one - I usually bring my ipad out with me, along with a portable charger. Works for me, despite using the 12.9 inch one.

    Exploring it now.

    And yes, I know that you're predominantly iPad. Whereas I am predominantly iPhone and laptop. My iPad is used on my desk, alongside my laptop, and I take it out with me when I head to the coast and make music in the back of the car/van whilst my partner runs the coast path and surfs. My phone is always with me, and is one of my most essential music making tools.

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