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  • NeuMNeuM

    @moForte said:

    @GeoTony said:
    @Paulo164 , just tried on GeoViolin on latest version of GS and get this… I assume it’s the same on PizzBass😂

    This is correct and has always been this way. The SWAM models use Legato automatically when detecting overlapping Note On messages with no interleaving Note Off Message. We will eventually implement the same functionality for the Plucked String models and eliminate the Legato button.

    Eliminating a non-functional UI element would make a lot of sense.

  • moFortemoForte

    GeoShred/GeoSWAM Cyber Monday Specials

    GeoSWAM Collection II - Our new collection of 5 instruments: GeoTrumpet, GeoBassTrombone, GeoBassFlute, GeoViola and GeoPizzBass. Normally priced at $59.99USD, Collection II is discounted to $49.99USD, a 33% discount off the individual cost.

    GeoSWAM Collection I - The classic collection of 6 instruments: GeoViolin, GeoTenorSax, GeoFlute, GeoCello, GeoClarinet, GeoOboe. Normally priced at $74.99USD, Collection I is discounted to $59.99USD, a 33% discount off the individual cost.

    GeoSWAM Collection I + II - Both Collections 11 instruments: GeoViolin, GeoTenorSax, GeoFlute, GeoCello, GeoClarinet, GeoOboe, GeoTrumpet, GeoBassTrombone, GeoBassFlute, GeoViola and GeoPizzBass. Normally priced at $119.99USD Collection I + II is discounted to $109.99USD, a 33% discount off the individual cost.

    GeoShred Pro - Normally priced at $24.99USD is discounted to $14.99USD, a 40% discount.

    GeoShred Play - Our entry level product can be upgraded to Pro and can be used purchase the GeoSWAM instruments, is available FREE OF CHARGE.

    **Note that Apple sets the local territory price and may add additional local charges such as VAT, GST.

  • GovernorSilverGovernorSilver

    @moForte said:
    GeoShred/GeoSWAM Cyber Monday Specials

    GeoSWAM Collection II - Our new collection of 5 instruments: GeoTrumpet, GeoBassTrombone, GeoBassFlute, GeoViola and GeoPizzBass. Normally priced at $59.99USD, Collection II is discounted to $49.99USD, a 33% discount off the individual cost.

    Just bought this! Thanks for adding some brass instruments to the collection! I was going to look in to setting up GeoShred Pro MIDI control of the SWAM app but got lazy and got into other stuff instead.

    The default tuning for GeoBass Trombone was not quite in the range that is suitable for playing this melody but that was easy enough to edit. Obviously the instrument in the video is different but GeoBass Trombone sounds pretty darn good as an alternative.

  • Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredrWrlds2ndBstGeoshredr

    @GovernorSilver said:

    I was going to look in to setting up GeoShred Pro MIDI control of the SWAM app but got lazy and got into other stuff instead.

    Geoshred has a stock patch for controlling the SWAM apps. No setup required!

  • fattigmanfattigman
    edited November 2021

    @moForte I have the swam trumpet and trombon, is it the same ones in geoshred? Any reason why I should buy the geoswam? Thanks

  • GovernorSilverGovernorSilver
    edited November 2021

    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:

    @GovernorSilver said:

    I was going to look in to setting up GeoShred Pro MIDI control of the SWAM app but got lazy and got into other stuff instead.

    Geoshred has a stock patch for controlling the SWAM apps. No setup required!

    That's cool but thanks to GeoSWAM Collection II, I'm good now.

  • RajahPRajahP

    Is there a way to turn generated midi from step sequencer (like StepPoly Arp) into MPE, to trigger GeoShred Swam, maybe Mozaic?

    Would be nice if this had a StepSeq built in..

  • GeoTonyGeoTony

    @RajahP , any sequencer should work with GeoInstruments… just make sure you don’t use channel 1 and it should be fine.

  • RajahPRajahP

    @GeoTony said:
    @RajahP , any sequencer should work with GeoInstruments… just make sure you don’t use channel 1 and it should be fine.

    Cool... Will Try... Thanks..

  • RajahPRajahP
    edited November 2021

    @GeoTony said:
    @RajahP , any sequencer should work with GeoInstruments… just make sure you don’t use channel 1 and it should be fine.

    This hit the spot... Bought the Trumpet because of this info... Thanks...

  • moFortemoForte

    @GovernorSilver said:

    @moForte said:
    GeoShred/GeoSWAM Cyber Monday Specials

    GeoSWAM Collection II - Our new collection of 5 instruments: GeoTrumpet, GeoBassTrombone, GeoBassFlute, GeoViola and GeoPizzBass. Normally priced at $59.99USD, Collection II is discounted to $49.99USD, a 33% discount off the individual cost.

    Just bought this! Thanks for adding some brass instruments to the collection! I was going to look in to setting up GeoShred Pro MIDI control of the SWAM app but got lazy and got into other stuff instead.

    The default tuning for GeoBass Trombone was not quite in the range that is suitable for playing this melody but that was easy enough to edit. Obviously the instrument in the video is different but GeoBass Trombone sounds pretty darn good as an alternative.

    Wow, this is lovely!

  • moFortemoForte

    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:

    @GovernorSilver said:

    I was going to look in to setting up GeoShred Pro MIDI control of the SWAM app but got lazy and got into other stuff instead.

    Geoshred has a stock patch for controlling the SWAM apps. No setup required!

    Yes that is correct. We have a preset called "MIDI Out iOS SWAM". It's #21 in the setlist "MIDI OUT" or #285 in the setlist "All Presets" (the preset pool). There is also a video showing how to use this here:

    Application Note #34: Using GeoShred to Control iOS SWAM Apps

    Note that you can find this video in GeoShred directly under "Menu> Help> Video Manual ... > Application Note #34 ..."

    As always, the Video Manual and all Application Notes can be found here:

    or directly in GeoShred under "Menu> Help> Video Manual ..."

  • moFortemoForte
    edited December 2021

    @fattigman said:
    @moForte I have the swam trumpet and trombon, is it the same ones in geoshred? Any reason why I should buy the geoswam? Thanks

    The GeoTrombone and the SWAM Trombone are different in various ways.

    • The GeoTrombone has a subset of the controls in the SWAM Trombone.
    • The GeoTrombone is tightly coupled to GeoShred. When you touch the screen to play a note there is a direct call into the model and there is no intermediate MIDI out of GeoShred and into SWAM. Further because it's integrated there is no need to setup a host routing GeoShred into SWAM. Just select the preset and play.
    • The GeoShred approach to control is different than SWAM, so that it's consistent with the GeoShred control paradigm. For instance for the GeoTenorSax, the primary "Expression" control (KeyY on iPad and KeyZ for 3D Touch) can also control Growl and Flutter Tongue through a lookup table that renders these expressions near the end of the displacement of the expressive control. Also Growl and Flutter Tongue have on/off toggles.
    • The GeoShred approach to control offers either "Finger" expression which is on a per note basis, or "Pad" expression which is transcendent of playing notes and is excellent for Legato passages.
    • The GeoSWAM models can be processed through any or combinations of the 22 built in effects.

    There is an extensive video that discuses these differences here:

    Application Note #33: Getting Started with the GeoSWAM Instruments

    It can also be found directly in GeoShred under "Menu> Help> Video Manual ... > Application Note #33 ..."

  • moFortemoForte
    edited December 2021

    @RajahP said:
    Is there a way to turn generated midi from step sequencer (like StepPoly Arp) into MPE, to trigger GeoShred Swam, maybe Mozaic?

    Would be nice if this had a StepSeq built in..

    MPE is MIDI 1.0! It's a way of using MIDI 1.0 for per-note expression. In it's default form, notes are sent on Channels 2..16. Expression is sent on the same channel as the note. The primary expression control for the GeoSWAM models must be Channel Pressure which is the "third dimension of control" in MPE. Global expression is sent on channel 1. Here is our overview of MPE:

    http://www.moforte.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/CCRMA-OH18-presentation.pdf

  • Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredrWrlds2ndBstGeoshredr

    @moForte said:

    @fattigman said:
    @moForte I have the swam trumpet and trombon, is it the same ones in geoshred? Any reason why I should buy the geoswam? Thanks

    The GeoTrombone and the SWAM Trombone are different in various ways.

    • The GeoTrombone has a subset of the controls in the SWAM Trombone.
    • The GeoTrombone is tightly coupled to GeoShred. When you touch the screen to play a note there is a direct call into the model and there is no intermediate MIDI out of GeoShred and into SWAM. Further because it's integrated there is no need to setup a host routing GeoShred into SWAM. Just select the preset and play.
    • The GeoShred approach to control is different than SWAM, so that it's consistent with the GeoShred control paradigm. For instance for the GeoTenorSax, the primary "Expression" control (KeyY on iPad and KeyZ for 3D Touch) can also control Growl and Flutter Tongue through a lookup table that renders these expressions near the end of the displacement of the expressive control. Also Growl and Flutter Tongue have on/off toggles.
    • The GeoShred approach to control offers either "Finger" expression which is on a per note basis, or "Pad" expression which is transcendent of playing notes and is excellent for Legato passages.

    There is an extensive video that discuses these differences here:

    Application Note #33: Getting Started with the GeoSWAM Instruments

    It can also be found directly in GeoShred under "Menu> Help> Video Manual ... > Application Note #33 ..."

    For me the main advantage of the GS models is that you can run them through the GS fx. The resonator patches and the formant filter patches are my favorites.

    I think I might prefer the SWAM apps for brass though, because I like the tonguing, half-valve, and mute options a lot. I don’t know how many of those options are exposed in the GS model.

  • moFortemoForte
    edited December 2021

    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:

    I think I might prefer the SWAM apps for brass though, because I like the tonguing, half-valve, and mute options a lot. I don’t know how many of those options are exposed in the GS model.

    The GeoSWAM brass has Flutter Tongue, Growl and Mutes.

  • RajahPRajahP

    My test share.. GeoSwarm Trumpet and Sax.. iBassist Seq… Atom2 …AUM.

  • WeitWeit
    edited December 2021

    The tenorsax has more control than the ios version. It has flutter and growl control which is grey out on the swam ios version.

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