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Another thing that you can do is reduce polyphony too. :-)
I wonder why they didn't include all of the vst patches?
@sonosaurus said:
Both notes pitches up and down respectively but it breaks up the sound a bit, so yea a bit nutty. I can't change the buffer from 256 up to 512 in Z3ta after Thumbjam is started (even though Z3ta was opened first). But the "fine grainy" crackly sound doesn't sound like a typical buffer issue.
Edit: Ok adding a few fingers sliding the pitchbend all over definitely sounds nutty, so yea
Hmmm, why when running it by itself with no other apps running is the buffer rate locked? Anyone know how to unlock it?
I was running it with Drumjam when it locked could drumjam be locked to 256 and caused the other to lock with it? I shut them both down and when I reopened z3ta+ the buffer is no longer locked.
Anyone have an answer re Midi in channel selection ?
@Tritonman2 If you had a IAA app running previously, you may have to reopen it a close it again. That's a IOS 7 issue I hope gets fixed with update.
Am I asking a stupid question, or is my mic not on.
F-ing cool modern classic synth, also
Dang, another iOS 7 app I bought but can't use yet. I have this on my PC and really like what can be had.
I know, just update from iOS 6 already :-) . I think I have sold my new iPad 2 so a new Air may be just around the corner. And perhaps a trade-in for an iPad 6 later this year.
Gotta keep up with the times.
@Littlewoodge - I didn't see any options to set midi in, so I would guess it's Omni.
Thanks fj-
Like iMini I guess but in this case It Just Works, so far
Z3TA+ works great with Thesys and Genome. But in Thesys the tempo wil drift occasionally.
The synth itself is omni I guess, I can't find any option to change this. But you can assign the CC events in the MOD panel. The panel on the right, under CONTROL....scroll all the way down.
Does anyone know if you can draw your own patterns into the arpeggiator? Or are you stuck with their midi presets?
can you use and import microtuning files?
Could anyone confirm whether it supports MIDI CC to allow control from external controller? If so, are CC's pre assigned, or does it have a MIDI Learn function?
Correct preset route is:
User Applications/Z3TA+/Application Support/z3ta/Programs
One of the top flight Audio implementations. Got everything.
But.
One of the worst ever MIDI implementations. Which really surprised me, being Cakewalk and their decades of MIDI experience on the desktop. OMNI mode only, promiscuously listens to all ports (with constant rescan so you can't start anything afterwards and hope to regain some semblance of control), publishes Virtual MIDI ports but ignores them, no MIDI Out, no MIDI Learn, no external clock, MIDI Panic is hidden at the bottom of the Options menu, needs a swipe up to see it.
Very complex arp, but no way to edit its patterns other than by loading a MIDI file, but no provision for using your own files. Manual states all patterns are stored inside the program. Indeed, I'm surprised it hears notes at all. No other mention of MIDI in the manual.
To cap it off, the licensing states quite clearly that, fun though those MIDI Arp patterns may be to play with (and there are 256 of them ! - and numbered, not descriptively named, major UI fail there), they are strictly copyright by Cakewalk and may not be used in any kind of performance or synced to anything else (not that there is any functioning sync capability, but hey this is lawyers talking, not musicians).
Thing is, I absolutely need multiple synths separately controlled by mappable MIDI playing at the same time (I'm no good at laying tracks one after the other, nor have confidence to freeze them, and that won't work anyway live looping) so if I can't leave this playing MIDI while noodling another synth I won't use it.
I really hope they get to it, plan to fix this, like Korg have intimated they will with Gadget. Otherwise just a $20 gift to the gods to keep iPad music alive.
And this may be why it is going to get as much play on my iPad as iMini. i.e. not much at all. I'll see if its shortcomings disappear in IAA but I am not optimistic. Shame, the sounds are fantastic.
@Phil999 - don't know of any iOS synth that takes microtuning files. Not this one anyway. But it does have a pretty comprehensive selection of scales.
Man, this thing is evolving pad city! I may just have to bend my workflow rules
like this pad "psytrance pad 1 XS", showing lots of nice fuzz on Vectorscope.
Lol you don't have to play it but I sure as hell am. This is the best sounding synth on ios I have EVER used to date. Yummy in fact. the depth of the sound not to mention how nicely it is behaving even on my old Ipad mini is great.
I hear ya @Dwarman it's an epic fail for the midi side of things for sure.
A damn shame.
@Tritonman2 - like I said .... been playing that one patch with a held chord for the last 10 minutes. Hundreds of knobs to explore.
Now testing CC controls. comments about channel and port selectivity still stand, but received CC messages are as a stage in the modulation matrix. As in:
Source * Range ^ curve * CC ==> Destination
Not exactly a learn function, but any CC can be used for any parameter. including modulation by velocity. So that part is a definite performance or external sequencer win. And it is listening for these as well as notes.
I'm thinking their MIDI philosophy is that Z3TA+ is an external stand-alone VST-like synth hosted in an iPad dedicated to its use as such. That might explain a few things.
@dwarman said:
Even so this is still poor midi implementation from Cakewalk and as far as being the best synth on IOS I'm not so sure. I think it is on a par with Thor but with poor midi so that's going to be the title of my App Store review,Poor midi.
Thor is very nice at what it does do but this just has so much more depth to what I am hearing with my ears. In the end I need the sound that works and this definitely wins hands down. Oh, and as mentioned by someone already it is one hell of a lot of fun to tweak and reshape. It is release day try to remember with no updates or first run even started hardly yet.
I don't quite get the midi arps either. You do have your standard up/down/random/etc and around 50 gate patterns, which are all very useful. But the midi arps? So apparently those are under some licensing gibberish from what I read in the manual. You can't draw your own in the sequencer (altho it looks perfectly doable). And there's no import. What they for then?
@Kloon There must be two ways then to access the preset folder to put in presets using iFunbox. My way works too.
@dwarman said:
Not sure that would be the case as it has IAA and Audiobus ?
@dwarman said:
it's rare among softsynths, and the PC/Mac version of z3ta is one of them. Too bad the iPad version does not have this feature, it would be - as you say - probably the first one. Thanks for the info.