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Z3TA+ for iOS released (AB and IAA)

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  • edited February 2014

    Sunrizer imports micro tuning via iTunes file sharing (.TUN & .SCL files).

  • edited February 2014

    As far as licensing there was no mention of it pre-sale so someone is SOL on that one lol.
    That would be like if I sold you a car and then after you purchased it told you enjoy it but do not drive it anywhere. Hahaha jokes on me right? Good luck enforcing that contract.
    Maybe they could sell me some pants and after the purchase try to stop me from putting them on? Highly unlikely lol.

  • Bit of a half-assed implementation- sorry Cakewalk. Not just the MIDI omissions, but that arp is just sitting there waiting for you to draw in patterns, but noooo. Also, to be extra picky, the manual mentions a couple functions from the VST that are not present in the iOS version.

    I might actually prefer Thor at this point, even if it has several less envelopes and LFOs. Both sound great, though Thor behaves better on my ipad2. Neither will sync to MIDI clock- if they could just add that and channel selection I'd be satisfied. We'll see if and when either gets updated....

  • @ChrisG said:

    Sunrizer imports micro tuning via iTunes file sharing (.TUN & .SCL files).

    thanks for that info. Just learned about it today.

  • Synth sounds great, but as dwarman has already pointed out, the MIDI Implementation is awful.

  • If you happen to have Rebirth on your ipad , load up a few songs , loop and play over the top with Z3Ta+ and you will fall in love. The only thing about it is that Rebirth locks you into a 256 frame buffer but even with my old ipad mini I am finding most presets will go nicely. I still have not made it into cubasis via audiobus because I have been having way to much fun experimenting with this synth. Next up perhaps will be drums from ims-20 and who knows I am not sure but that might even give my buffer rate a rise for further sonic mayhem. I just can not believe how powerful and smooth this synth is. My hat goes off to the folks at Cakewalk for an excellent job/ Even before update fixes this is a must have .

  • I hope it gets open in for Inporting presets direct

  • Has anyone heard if they are going to be releasing new sound banks/libraries for this app. Maybe as an in-app purchase or through itunes file sharing? Looking through the app I don't see any way of doing it. Although it says Factory Set for what it currently has, so maybe something else in the future?

  • I think Factory Set is opposed to "user".

    But I just tried saving a preset, and something's weird. I can name it and save it, and when I click the preset window, I see 2 columns- factory and user. But if I select factory, there doesn't seem any way to go back and display the user presets- that column dissapears. I can then go back to PRG-> recent, and user presets show up again.
    Is it really supposed to work that way? Seems wrong....

  • edited February 2014

    @DaveMagoo - IAA is MIDI to the synth and audio from the synth. Audiobus is audio only. THis is very VST-like operation. Those are the pathways that seem to work in the current instantiation. Direct CoreMIDI/VirtualMIDI operation, i.e stand-alone nice MIDI denizen, is what does not work. I doubt they thought of these use cases. Or just thought of the iPad as a single instrument barely above "Toy" status thingie.

  • edited February 2014

    Great synth with wonderful sounds. Thanks for recommending.
    Does anyone know how to raise polyphony to a higher value than 1 (iPad 3)?
    Clicking it yield no result.

  • edited February 2014

    @Shay - works for me. tap carefully directly on the number itself. They limit it based on hardware used, 4 for an iPad 3.

    I must say though I find in general the click targets way too tiny, plus they overloaded clicking with stepping to next value or opening a pick list. I always want the list but usually end up going through a few increments before I hit it with that subtle difference that makes it put up the list.

  • edited February 2014

    Thanks @dwarman. I will try again with my big fingers :).
    Cheers.

    Edit: worked like a charm.
    Thanks again

  • Quick question, if you are using z3ta via IAA in a daw like cubasis, will that get round the omni midi issue? (i.e. You can have other non IAA midi channels triggering port specific synths without triggering z3ta?) ..... Thanks!

  • Does anyone know how I can reset the LFO cycle on key press? I am trying to have a saw down LFO that starts at the peak and goes down. Phase is set to 0 and I am using a PV (per voice) LFO. If I press multiple keys one after another the phase continues...

    Also just noticed - if you save a preset and then switch to the factory bank you can no longer reach the user bank... except from recently used if you're lucky to have it there.

  • edited February 2014

    Has anyone succesfully added new presets that include wavetables as well? Is it possible on the iPad?

  • @Kloon said:

    Has anyone succesfully added new presets that include wavetables as well? Is it possible on the iPad?

    Z3TA+ does not use wavetables - it uses oscillators similiar to other synths. The oscillator waveforms can be shaped - hence the name "Waveshaping Synthesizer".

  • edited February 2014

    What is the wavetables folder (filled with wav files) for then?

  • Each oscillator can load a single .wav file. Apart from the factory supplied wave files, you can also load your own .wav into User 1.. User 6 slots, which can then be assigned to an oscillator. I checked some .wav on the Z3TA VST (PC version), and they are all 16-bit mono, PCM, 44.1khz.

  • I`m really enjoying this synth despite its midi issues.

    This is my first song with Z3TA+ all sounds except drums from Seekbeats are from Z3TA+.

  • I'll pick this up when/if they update to fix issues.

    It sounds good, but I'm not "burning" for it.

  • Good one Multitouch!
    It sure is the most fun I have had with an ios synth. It may need an update but still sounds as good or better than anything else out there.

  • I realize this just came out yesterday, but am wondering how z3ta+ compares to Korg Gadget. Is it that Gadget offers more variety, but z3ta+ sounds better?

  • I have not yet heard anything convincing from this synth. Maybe it will come with time as more and more people demo it.
    But to me, from everything I've heard so far, Z3TA sounds dated, and doesn't sound better or more amazing than other great iOS synths available.

  • Apples and oranges, telecharge. The synths in Gadget sound fine, but its main strength is as an integrated tune producing platform. Z3TA's strength is its deep progammability and complex sounds you can get out of it. I don't feel it sounds inherently "better" than anything else.

  • edited February 2014

    Both are iOS synths yet it's apples and oranges? I'm not trying to be argumentative. I'm just trying to understand the differences. So, Gadget gives you a feature set to produce a song. Could one reproduce Gadget's sounds with z3ta+? (Though I would imagine this would be a very time consuming endeavor unless you were very skilled.) Also, are both of these best used for EDM?

  • @Zymos - I think it is a bug. It doesn't show up correctly on my iPad Mini 2. You have to save a preset in order for the User Content to show up. But, on my iPad 3, User Content shows up under Factory Content and stays there permanently. Odd.

  • edited February 2014

    Although z3ta+ is one of if not the best sounding synth I have found to date on ios it is a stand alone synth where as gadget is a group of very nice not quite as good though synths with many more daw type features as well. They are not at all similar. One is a synth the other more like a daw with mini synths inside. The synths inside of gadget are no slouches for sure. They do not compare to the 6 oscillator z3ta+ but still are very capable and the automation and sequencing ability take them to another level also.

    @brad/ As far as dating and z3ta+ that would be your fault and not that of the synth because the depth is there if you choose to make your own presets for the beast. You will get out of it what you choose. Or you could play the over 500 presets as they are. No doubt there are sounds in there you would love and sounds you might consider dated. Of course you have the ability to reshape the (dated sounds to whatever you like). You can listen to all of the windows files and they can be loaded in as well from the vst versions.

  • mmpmmp
    edited February 2014

    I have Gadget but don't have Z3TA (yet) but I have watched quite a few videos about it, and may buy it later on.

    Gadget has a set of different-style synths, each with its own, nice but limited range of sounds, one a drum computer, one a chiptune synth, an FM synth, another an analog-style synth, a set of effects and so on. But foremost, it's a sequencer, where you can use those synths to compose a piece of music.

    You might be able to reproduce most of Gadget's sounds in Z3TA, but not the other way around. As a synth, Z3TA is much deeper and more versatile than Gadget, but as a full suite of tools for EDM Gadget is more complete. You'd need a DAW and/or a sequencer to create a complete song with Z3TA which may be made more difficult with its MIDI implementation being subpar at this moment, by all accounts.

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