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OT: Positive advice for dealing with Covid-19 (no politics or complaints about governance please)

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  • @vitocorleone123 said:
    How does one wear a face mask if sick (I'm not.... yet) when there are no face masks?

    You may need to improvise. The main objective would be not to infect other people. The purpose of the mask would be to prevent viral loaded vapor from breathing, and especially your coughs from transmitting the virus. If you could have someone else take care of you in terms of preparing food or getting medicines to you it might be easiest to keep a safe distance away from them. You could stay in a bedroom by yourself and they’d deliver things to you. If you’re not well enough to do that sort of strategy, you’d probably need to be hospitalized.

  • No offense but I feel like you shouldn’t get your Coronavirus advice from the Audiobus forum.

  • @Antkn33 said:
    No offense but I feel like you shouldn’t get your Coronavirus advice from the Audiobus forum.

    I’d have to agree, there have already been enough links to healthcare organizations posted here that you should follow up with your doctor if they don’t answer your questions.

  • @Antkn33 said:
    No offense but I feel like you shouldn’t get your Coronavirus advice from the Audiobus forum.

    Which is why I keep posting links to high-quality sites for the information that I've summarized.

  • @espiegel123 said:

    @Antkn33 said:
    No offense but I feel like you shouldn’t get your Coronavirus advice from the Audiobus forum.

    Which is why I keep posting links to high-quality sites for the information that I've summarized.

    I for one greatly appreciate your efforts @espiegel123. Also @Mcd for starting this thread.

  • edited March 2020

    Some practical, positive advice for Americans running out of toilet paper:
    😉😬

  • Article that discusses studies which show how the virus can be spread before infected people have symptoms.

  • This article provides a great visualization of how social distancing saves lives even when an epidemic is no longer containable:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/world/corona-simulator/

    Everyone, please do your part:

    • stay home when possible
    • maintain at least six feet (2 meters) from those you don’t live with
    • Wash or sanitize your hands before leaving the house and on returning
    • Don’t touch your face with unwashed hands
    • Quarantine yourself if get sick

    Remember, this is about saving other people’s lives. Your parents, grandparents, (AUNTS and uncles.

    Also: there are some being hospitalized with no known risk factors including age. You can be transmitting the virus even if you have no symptoms and remain asymptomatic.

    Be safe and good lucj

  • This video made me laugh so hard. Great drumming.

  • Try to work out a roster amongst loved ones, whilst trying not to put yourself at too much risk, so that one’s that are okay, can look after, others that are ill, but try to keep them distant until needed, otherwise everyone will come down with it at the same time.

  • Just a reminder for those that haven’t seen it, there are practical things we can do to keep the pandemic from being the worst-case.

    Please take the time to read these and put the advice into practice.

    If you are a skeptic read them anyway UNTIL you understand them enough to explain the reasoning to another person.

    Be safe all. Wash hands frequently, stay home when possible and keep your distance (6 feet or 2 meters) from others. You are doing this for your community and not just yourself.

    The articles:

    https://medium.com/@ariadnelabs/social-distancing-this-is-not-a-snow-day-ac21d7fa78b4

    https://medium.com/@tomaspueyo/coronavirus-act-today-or-people-will-die-f4d3d9cd99ca

    A GREAT VISUALIZATION of the results of various strategies:
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/world/corona-simulator/

    Share the knowledge with everyone you know. A lot of people don’t realize what the proper practices are.

  • Can people cite their sources please (putting my academic hat on, here – cite your sources, proper referencing)

  • @knewspeak said:

    @mister_rz said:

    @knewspeak said:
    My seven year old boy, isn’t well. Time for isolation.

    Hoping its seasonal sniffles and you get the added bonus of pulling him out of school just as it’s starting to ramp up, speedy recovery to your son and may you have an adequate supply of loo roll, ya’ll stay safe now.

    Thanks, he’s not running a temperature and still has a healthy appetite, what the future holds, I hope is that all the world wakes to the pure simple fact, we are one, that is why this forum is special, it contains the seed of this hope.

    How’s he doing today and how are the rest of you holding up?

  • One article I’ve read is that anti-inflammatories such as ibuprofen and cortisone may exacerbate Covid-19 symptoms, recommend taking paracetamol instead.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/14/anti-inflammatory-drugs-may-aggravate-coronavirus-infection

  • edited March 2020

    The information below is not correct and is from a hoax email.

    See https://www.theverge.com/2020/3/12/21177262/coronavirus-tip-fake-list-stanford-hoax-covid-19 for one of many articles debunking the email. The email does not come from Stanford.

    @LinearLineman said:
    Here is some new info about the importance of keeping your throat moist....

    Stanford hospital board internal message:
    The new Coronavirus may not show sign of infection for many days. How can one know if he/she is infected? By the time they have fever and/or cough and go to the hospital, the lung is usually 50% Fibrosis and it's too late. Taiwan experts provide a simple self-check that we can do every morning. Take a deep breath and hold your breath for more than 10 seconds. If you complete it successfully without coughing, without discomfort, stiffness or tightness, etc., it proves there is no Fibrosis in the lungs, basically indicates no infection.
    In critical time, please self-check every morning in an environment with clean air. Serious excellent advice by Japanese doctors treating COVID-19 cases: Everyone should ensure your mouth & throat are moist, never dry. Take a few sips of water every 15 minutes at least. Why? Even if the virus gets into your mouth, drinking water or other liquids will wash them down through your throat and into the stomach. Once there, your stomach acid will kill all the virus. If you don't drink enough water more regularly, the virus can enter your windpipe and into the lungs. That's very dangerous.
    Please send and share this with family and friends. Take care everyone and may the world recover from this Coronavirus soon.
    IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT - CORONAVIRUS
    1. If you have a runny nose and sputum, you have a common cold
    2. Coronavirus pneumonia is a dry cough with no runny nose.
    3. This new virus is not heat-resistant and will be killed by a temperature of just 26/27 degrees. It hates the Sun.
    4. If someone sneezes with it, it takes about 10 feet before it drops to the ground and is no longer airborne.
    5. If it drops on a metal surface it will live for at least 12 hours - so if you come into contact with any metal surface - wash your hands as soon as you can with a bacterial soap.
    6. On fabric it can survive for 6-12 hours. normal laundry detergent will kill it.
    7. Drinking warm water is effective for all viruses. Try not to drink liquids with ice.
    8. Wash your hands frequently as the virus can only live on your hands for 5-10 minutes, but - a lot can happen during that time - you can rub your eyes, pick your nose unwittingly and so on.
    9. You should also gargle as a prevention. A simple solution of salt in warm water will suffice.
    10. Can't emphasis enough - drink plenty of water!
    THE SYMPTOMS
    1. It will first infect the throat, so you'll have a sore throat lasting 3/4 days
    2. The virus then blends into a nasal fluid that enters the trachea and then the lungs, causing pneumonia. This takes about 5/6 days further.
    3. With the pneumonia comes high fever and difficulty in breathing.
    4. The nasal congestion is not like the normal kind You feel like you're drowning. It's imperative you then seek immediate attention.

    PLEASE PEOPLE check your info before posting.

    @LinearLineman : This is from a bogus email that has been circulating NOT from Stanford.

    Please delete the contents of the post. It contains dangerously misleading information.

    Stanford (of which I am an alumnus) sent an email to the community informing people that this bogus email was in circulation.

    Please tell anyone that you know that this is bogus if they send it to you.

  • @u0421793 said:
    Can people cite their sources please (putting my academic hat on, here – cite your sources, proper referencing)

    That is a good idea AND people should do a little skeptical poking around before posting links. The email that @LinearLineman is from a hoax email that has been in wide circulation for close to a week -- enough that some of the contents got flagged at Snopes.com

  • wimwim
    edited March 2020

    @Ass_Flaps_9000 said:
    Why the bog roll?

    I puzzled over that one at first too.

    In general, if expecting you could be quarantined or store closing, etc., having supplies of things you could run out of and not be allowed out to get is a good idea. Somehow toilet paper ended up being at the top of people’s anxiety list.

    Non perishable food is a good thing to have on hand as well.

    We always try to keep some stores in case of other disasters anyway so no big deal here.

    It’s wise to have some extras to help others who don’t as well.

  • @wim said:

    @Ass_Flaps_9000 said:
    Why the bog roll?

    I puzzled over that one at first too.

    In general, if expecting you could be quarantined or store closing, etc., having supplies of things you could run out of and not be allowed out to get is a good idea. Somehow toilet paper ended up being at the top of people’s anxiety list.

    Non perishable food is a good thing to have on hand as well.

    We always try to keep some stores in case of other disasters anyway so no big deal here.

    It’s wise to have some extras to help others who don’t as well.

    As we stock up, also need to not overdo it and be considerate of the community needs, too. So, we should stock up a little -- but also not too much. Our neighbors need to eat, too.

    I have been pretty strongly staying isolated (we are trying to figure out the tradeoffs between going to uncrowded store vs getting some things delivered) but have had to go to the store a couple of times in the last 5 days.

    It has been interesting how differently different stores have been affected.

    I have been reading that we should expect sporadic short-terms disruptions to some things.

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  • @espiegel123, post deleted. It came from a PhD in California!

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  • the bright side is that the people get the government we deserve

  • McDMcD
    edited March 2020

    @LinearLineman said:
    @espiegel123, post deleted. It came from a PhD in California!

    Somewhere earlier in the thread I found that advice after Googling for the truth I posted it as Fake News that I wished was true. That's how fake news tends to work. It tells us something we simply wish was true with just enough detail to get us to spread it.

    If you find something brand new that changes everything... it's quite probably not true. Newpapers
    use the policy of multiple sources to avoid being played. It takes a conspiracy to get them to circulate crap.
    Fox/Breitbart prefer just keeping an audience and having great ratings.

    We need a vaccine to protect us from spreading fake news too or great immunities. I'm sure I accept a lot
    of things that are wrong but I just want them to be:

    "Everyone should get healthcare for free without consideration of the costs or every who would pay them.
    It's a human right to have that."

    I wish. All finite things must be retained according to some scheme of distribution. More healthcare? Less something else.

    I've been hanging out with some economists and this is what they do all day. They are like anti-political except where they have those blind spots like we all do.

    "But poor people who won't work would get something thatched go to someone that works." Shit like that. True but still a political hammer used to protect some and ignore others without evidence. (oops - good advice or rant. Just shoot me.).

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