OT: Vent About Global Pandemic Management *HERE*

McD

@wim said:
I dunno, look what we meekly accepted, and continue to accept, at our airports after just 3,000 dead on 9/11.

True but that was a queueing mechanism that wasn't negotiable. Submit or just stay home. Everyone has the right to not travel.

Imagine if they scanned at the building entrance and just started putting people on busses to quarantine facilities. Totally different IMHO... voluntary vs mandatory. That's more like what ICE is doing in some of their raids. "Where are you taking him?" "Step back please."

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@espiegel123 said:

@InfoCheck said:

@espiegel123 said:

@InfoCheck said:
@espiegel123 maybe you could clarify what you meant by sociopathic?

If a person finds it impossible to modulate their behavior to live within the broader norms (many of which are unwritten) established by the social grouping within which they live. In a way, these are people who don't internally acknowledge the validity of any social norms.

This is different from disagreeing with society. There are some people who simply in their mind (though they often adroitly pretend otherwise) believe that the only rules to consider are the ones they make up for themselves.

This is probably not a super great way to put it. There is a difference between being at odds with society and being narcissistic to the point of not having respect for any social norms -- where social norm does not necessarily even mean mainstream society. For example, a Jew in Nazi Germany that does not accept the rules put in place by the Nazis -- was likely to still be a part of some smaller community whose norms they adopt and use to modulate their behavior. They aren't being sociopathic in rejecting Nazi Germany nor would a slave rejecting the rules that enslave them. But both of those people going to be a part of some other social grouping and modulate their behavior and communication according to the unwritten rules of that social group.

It seemed like a fairly standard rant post to me and didn’t seem to rise to the level of comparison with Germany in WWII. I would have needed a lot more behavior over a longer period of time than just this post to consider them to be sociopathic though more to the point it seems to fall more under the purview of a psychologist which I am not. It also seems there were in fact groups they identified with so your focus on one aspect of their libertarian POV as a justification for being classified as a sociopath may have been questionable?

You are misinterpreting what I wrote. I did not compare the person to Nazi Germany in any way at all. What I was saying there was part of a response to your question of what I meant by sociopathic. The mention was strictly in the context of explaining that an individual isn't sociopathic for simply rejecting a particular set of rules.

So, there is no line to draw from my earlier comment to what you quoted.

The early comment had to do with his saying that only he gets to decide what the rules are. That is a typical libertarian line of reasoning. It is at odds with a functioning society in my opinion.

p.s. I know from past exchanges that you find my point of view quite conformist -- and that isn't really the case. Most people I know consider me a non-conformist who tends to push back quite a bit against conventional wisdom and many accepted norms. I am not arguing that the group is always right.

You impress me as a person who goes out of their way to try and be helpful especially compared to me, so sometimes that desire to be helpful can be seen as coming at the cost of tamping down dissension which can be seen as conformist to someone like myself who probably prefers open expression over people getting along. So if I view you as being more conformist than me it probably is just another way of expressing my own bias towards supporting individual expression versus following/respecting group rules. You could certainly disagree with that whole line of reasoning. I’m no arbitrator of what’s right or wrong in these cases and wouldn’t necessarily argue that much for my preferences so long as I didn’t feel too inhibited from doing or saying what I want to do.

I’m stating my point of view during this back and forth and either you think there’s some sort of merit to them or not. Despite being able to share my opinions quite easily, I don’t expect others to necessarily value them as I do. There’s no reason for me to believe my view is the right one either.

I think we’re responding to things as we are because we must be very different. I suspect we could do a lot more of this back and forth, though it seems like we’d fail to agree— which I find really very interesting. I’m relatively lazy in terms of trying to defend or explain my point view to people these days as it’s frequently probably not so great or important that anyone is missing out on anything if they don’t.

AudioGus

So are people rationing memes? I mean wtf, post a gif or two.

[Deleted User]

@AudioGus said:
So are people rationing memes? I mean wtf, post a gif or two.

https://bsquared.media/mad-about-memes/

LinearLineman

@robertreynolds, don’t make me call you a name. As to shit stirring, every six months or so I get provocative. And if not now, when? At least I don’t swallow my own shit hook line and sinker.

AudioGus

@InfoCheck said:

@AudioGus said:
So are people rationing memes? I mean wtf, post a gif or two.

https://bsquared.media/mad-about-memes/

Please summarize and post in meme form, thx!

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@AudioGus said:

@InfoCheck said:

@AudioGus said:
So are people rationing memes? I mean wtf, post a gif or two.

https://bsquared.media/mad-about-memes/

Please summarize and post in meme form, thx!

No can do, I just copied the link and didn’t bother to read it. 😆

[Deleted User]

@AudioGus said:

@InfoCheck said:

@AudioGus said:
So are people rationing memes? I mean wtf, post a gif or two.

https://bsquared.media/mad-about-memes/

Please summarize and post in meme form, thx!

No can do, I just copied the link and didn’t bother to read it. 😆

zeropoint

Anyone else come across this ?

http://www.centerforhealthsecurity.org/event201/recommendations.html

JohnnyGoodyear

@AudioGus

zeropoint

AudioGus

JohnnyGoodyear

robertreynolds

@LinearLineman said:
@robertreynolds, don’t make me call you a name. As to shit stirring, every six months or so I get provocative. And if not now, when? At least I don’t swallow my own shit hook line and sinker.

Aren’t you a moderator on this forum? Do better.

LinearLineman

@robertreynolds, no, I am not a moderator. I gave it up so I could speak my mind without being chastised by those who think a moderator should do better.

robertreynolds

@LinearLineman said:
@robertreynolds, no, I am not a moderator. I gave it up so I could speak my mind without being chastised by those who think a moderator should do better.

Maybe just do better than a troll then.

LinearLineman

Get off it already @robertreynolds.

knewspeak

UK Government now wants manufacturing industry to produce ventilator life support machines. For several weeks they’ve seen the extreme lengths China had to go through in Wuhan, do they think the authorities did that because they wanted to, hell no, they did that because they knew their own very existence was and still is in doubt.

knewspeak

From my cursed, blessed, dreams I always awoke, knowing
This guy and quite a few others have knowingly, unknowingly done the same...

knewspeak

When we fill the mass graves, when we erect memorials to the countless numbers lost, when we speak solemn words, to our loved ones lost, we will as time passes allow this to fade, our own folly, our own shame, of how we allowed this to happen.

knewspeak

The death toll is going to be horrific, it is likely going to exceed the Spanish 1918 outbreak, world wide could be quarter a billion people.

kobamoto

it's not the Coronavirus I'm worried about, it's the Covfefe virus that has infected allot more people and is allot more dangerous

LeeB

It was never going to be long before the remoaners piled on Boris and Brexit. So predictable.
The guy is being advised by experts and is following that advice. What is he supposed to do?

knewspeak

@LeeB said:
It was never going to be long before the remoaners piled on Boris and Brexit. So predictable.
The guy is being advised by experts and is following that advice. What is he supposed to do?

He could just Fuck Off, same as the rest of the egotistical bastards around the world.

LeeB

Yawn

Krupa

I'm just waiting for Tommy's infection squads to show up....

'why aren't you coughing traitor?'

knewspeak

@LeeB said:
Yawn

Just watch how pale your beloved leaders faces turn, how nervous they become, they know the scale, you’ll eventually get the joke, even if kills you.

LeeB

@knewspeak said:

@LeeB said:
Yawn

Just watch how pale your beloved leaders faces turn, how nervous they become, they know the scale, you’ll eventually get the joke, even if kills you.

Well I’ll put my trust in them for now, I have to. Not some random internet experts with no qualifications on the subject whatsoever

Clueless

With money humanity ends.
https://www.google.de/amp/s/amp.dw.com/en/germany-and-us-wrestle-over-coronavirus-vaccine-report/a-52777990

knewspeak

@Clueless said:
With money humanity ends.
https://www.google.de/amp/s/amp.dw.com/en/germany-and-us-wrestle-over-coronavirus-vaccine-report/a-52777990

This and HIV anti-virals