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100% agree with @LinearLineman, all of it.
How about: EVERYWHERE where universal or near-universal mask wearing has been adopted -- inluding Wuhan and South Korea where the pandemic spread rapidly until such measures were adopted.
You keep WRONGLY stating that Sweden had a low infection rate compared to other countries in Europe. It actually doesn't. I've share the numbers with you several times. They are readily available
Sorry to have to point-out another "typo," Vlad P
His name is actually @SeanCollins666
We have discussed earlier about something is different in Asia. This is happening all over Europe.
UK face masks made mandatory 24th July.
Sweden’s rate of infection (28 per 100,000) is still far below the United Kingdom's (69 per 100,000).
But much worse than European countries that handled things sensibly.
Doing better than a country whose response was terrible is not doing well. Sweden is doing poorly compare to countries that responded more actively : including its culturally and demographically similar neighbors. FAR WORSE.
Funny story. Widespread use of masks in parts of Asia started after the Spanish flu. It was decided to use the masks during flu and allergy seasons and became a norm. So it’s hardly controversial to wear masks in parts of Asia.
Masks don't kill people. People kill people. I have a right to wear a mask.
You have no right to breath on me during a pandemic.
I STRONGLY recommend... no one use "Quote" on Mark B's comments. They get worm-holed back into my thread and I want to try and fix him... again. There is no point. He is lost to rational analysis and is on a mission to make the world safe for small business and a good pub experience. Can't say I blame him but sadly he is playing for the wrong team and willing to ignore science while borrowing from it with surgical precision.
Have a nice day and I pray you don't have to play "spin the genetic wheel" anytime soon. The house always wins and the game is rigged against you. No one gets Covid-19 and is eager to share the "benefits". Many haven't have a close call yet and assume it's all over rated noise. Drink up.
“Sweden is laughed at here in Norway. We are in a bad spot ourselves with this second wave, but we have nowhere near the total deaths of Sweden. We have about 265 while Sweden are nearing 6000. Sweden doesn’t have more than a couple of millions more people, total. They have better hospitals than us, better roads, lower taxes & prices, but man... this Anders Tengrell has killed a lot of people.
In Norway we have begun with masks just this month. We have used as little masks as Sweden has, but we closed down for two months while the first outbreak hit us.”
This from a Norwegian forum member @Mark B. Can’t get much closer or more valid than that. But, like Trump, I imagine you will never concede.
Nope!
Just like Dictator Donnie, Vlad P will simply “double down.” 🙄
Vote him out for sure, but the Supreme Court, that’s in his hands still.
I’m not 100%, but I think the deadline is all the time until Inauguration Day. Unless his nomination or nominations aren’t approved.
True, the nearest we came to a constitution was EU and human rights laws.
The UK not having a written constitution is an advantage IMO. A written constitution becomes an anchor that holds a nation back and ties its laws to obsolete ideals.
The notion that you should abide by a 200 year-old document that is practically impossible to amend or revise is actually dangerous.
For example the right to bear arms might have made sense in the eighteenth century, but in the 21st not so much. Good luck trying to change the constitution to reflect that though.
The UK is not bound by a written constitution, so legislators are free to legislate according to the will of the electorate. Even if you don't agree with the current government, no law is set in stone, one day they will be voted out and their laws can be changed by the next lot.
Our system in the UK is similar, first past the post, and in a strange quirk, the House of Lords is the unelected body that actually holds the elected house to a certain degree, to account.> @richardyot said:
True, but all Democracies have problematic procedures and systems, which can be manipulated either internally or ever more so today from external sources.
Well Trump’s nominated the Amy Coney Barrett, good luck USA, while here in the UK the world beating shambles continues with our government.
How any woman can advocate taking the hard won rights of another woman is beyond understanding. There is a terrible narcissism in religious beliefs. These religious autocrats talk about “hierarchies of good” which means you can make a deal with the Devil if you get what you want.
The good part is that the Dems raised 300 million in one week because of this shit.
Cults filter reality through the rules of the cult. Everything is viewed through the lens of the cult and all is forgiven if there's another component of the cult ideology that's advanced.
"Right to Life" is an issue that drives a whole sector of the electorate as a "must have" issue. The SCOTUS
litmus test is aligned on this one issue to build a base. Hanging current events on this issue will injure the
R's and the Catholic church and the evangelicals that also picked up this issue. It's really a judgement on
unrestricted sex before marriage and the requirement to serve all pregnancies (for any reason) to term.
Republicans folded this base into their agenda and are aiming for 6 out 9 judges being Catholic to serve
this base. It's going to hurt them and that's the only positive for me in current events.
The Electoral College was invented to shift power to the Southern States after the Civil War and it has served to provide and unfair advantage for Republicans so it can only be changed if Republicans are
significantly snowed out of power. It's anti-democratic in terms of one man = one vote. The Senate also
creates an imbalance in power by giving small states (that no one wants to live in due to terrible ecomonies) more power in government. The Southern States get yet another benefit from this powerful branch of government. The people load the House with Democrats that sought to Impeach an unlawful
man but the imbalance of R's in the Senate just killed the trial without calling witnesses and the Chief Justice presided over the "trial" like it was kangaroo court in a 3rd world country.
We may have to take another pass down that check on unlimited power if the election is rigged to ignore the will of the people (again).
So, Covid? At the announcement of the SCOTUS candidate they packed the white house garden like sardines and no member of trumps leadership team including the Attorney General, VP and the Candidate and her 7 children and husband wore a mask to protect themselves and those in attendance. That's not ignorance... that's a cult. Nothing else explains it to me. We have installed a cult into power and getting it out will take an overwhelming response... a 10% advantage in pure numbers and still there will be cult games and riots over the loss of the cults position of power. Armed insurrection in on the table since the cult will NOT give up ground and they are eager for a call to action.
History in the making. This is the real deal... can democracy defeat a cult? Hopefully, we'll get 50 years of
recognition that we're being played and we can address some real problems beyond young women getting pregnant out of wedlock and not wanting to take it to full term and run the risks and pay that price on their life, their career and their status in society and their family. Hopefully women and people of color will
add the required 10% to the tally. White men are not going gently to the back benches.
And the bad news is that the Post Office is controlled by a Trump lackey that is slowing mail delivery in an election where many will want to vote by mail and the courts are set up to side with Trump on any disputes about ballot counting.
The one thing that Trump doesn’t control though is the Military, although I don’t think they’d be eager to take any side, if the Election was contentious I think they’d favour another election rather than intervening on any side.
I can see Donnie post-election calling upon The Proud Boys, Patriot Prayer Group and other armed militia to gather at The White House to "protect our great President from the losers and liars who wish to destroy our great democracy!"
And they shall come.
If Trump calls on the ‘Brown Shirts’ he’ll end up in need of brown trousers.
@SNystrom, surely you have heard of the Trump Army. Been going on since the Spring. Trump Jr is calling for this “army” to show up...armed... at the polling centers. When you posted about your ammunition buying I thought, wow, is this really happening? Now I think it is,
@McD , I think you are incorrect about the Electoral College. My understanding was that it was inserted at the Constitutional Convention cause the elitist Founding Fathers didn’t trust the mob to make a decent and informed decision.
This from a gov website....
Originally, the Electoral College provided the Constitutional Convention with a compromise between the popular election of the President and congressional
The 12th Amendment—ratified in 1804—changed the original process, allowing for separate ballots for determining the President and Vice President.
Yes. I stand corrected. Slavery was used as the rationale for the system from the very beginning of the Republic. So it has always been an effort to combat the heavy population of NY, CA from have a massive
role in electing the President. It was originally created to shift power to states with slaves and later it was protected to keep the power in those same states and those states simply made it impossible for freed slaves to vote insuring the disenfranchisement of people of color. We are entering a new era of voter suppression based on the same fear.... white people only get a vote that is equal in power to a person of color. The fight to protect white supremacy is under attack. Post-racial world my ass. We continue to
work to address the same injustices after 144 years.