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OT: Vent About Global Pandemic Management *HERE*

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  • Death panel much???

  • Just thought I'd spew some non-connected irrelevant information just like Mark B. does.

    Or is Mark B. actually "Vlad P." ?!?!?!?!

  • Wonder how he pronounces "Yosemite????"

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    @SNystrom said:
    And just who is this "so-called doctor?"

    A member of the Conservative Party, he previously served as Secretary of State for Digital, Culture, Media and Sport in 2018 for six months

    Political much???

    You’re confused like usual.

    Dr Yeadon is a co-founder of Ziarco and CEO. He is an Allergy & Respiratory therapeutic area expert, developed out of deep knowledge of biology & therapeutics, and is an innovative drug discoverer with over 25 years of experience in drug discovery and development. Dr Yeadon has published over 40 original research articles and since 2011 has consulted to more than 20 biotechnology companies. Prior to consulting as an independent, he was Vice President and Chief Scientific Officer of the A&R Research Unit of Pfizer. At Pfizer, Dr Yeadon was responsible for target selection and the progress into humans of new molecules, leading teams of up to 200 staff across all disciplines and won an Achievement Award for productivity in 2008. Under his leadership the unit invented oral and inhaled NCEs which delivered positive clinical proofs of concept in asthma, allergic rhinitis and COPD. He led productive external collaborations and was involved in product and device licensing.

    Prior to Pfizer, Dr Yeadon worked at the Wellcome Research Labs with Salvador Moncada with a research focus on airway hyper-responsiveness and effects of pollutants including ozone and working in drug discovery of 5-LO, COX, NO and lung inflammation. With colleagues, he was the first to detect exhaled NO in animals and later to induce NOS in lung via allergic triggers. He attended the University of Surrey in Guildford, U.K, where he received his PhD (under Professor Ian Kitchen), with thesis work in the respiratory field, and a BSc, First Class, with Joint Honours, in Biochemistry and Toxicology.

  • Whatever you say, Vlad P...

  • @Mark B said:

    @audiblevideo said:
    Taiwan: no unemployment, education system is as normal, of 23Mil 7 died. Zero community infection for months

    Sweden: unemployment, limited education, of 10Mil 5,870 died, huge numbers of infected and long COVID

    Lazy fools look at Sweden, industrious sages at Taiwan

    Taiwan NEVER had a lockdown because they were ready (prepared), and ACTED swiftly.

    The reason is because it’s behaving differently in SE Asia. For example Thailand had millions of tourists from China at the height of the outbreak. They were the first country in the world to get a case outside of China. Almost no one was wearing masks at that time. Thailand were reluctant to stop travel due to the impact on the tourist industry and didn’t close airports until the beginning of April. But only 59 people have died. About the same as one day of road deaths. Japan also, the number one destination for Chinese tourists. You can argue masks magically stop the virus if you want but they have hardly been impacted even though they have the most elderly population in the world, and this virus mostly targets the elderly.
    So something different. The theory is there was a high level of immunity aldready in that region. Especially with country’s that has lots of Chinese tourism.

    No no no. Masks didn’t “magically” work. They work as they always do. The more people who use them, and use them properly, the better the outcome. Chinese tourists are not the only way the disease spread. Japan was forced to consider ways to manage the disease sooner because of the cruise ship that ended up being japan’s problem to deal with. That quickly forced japan to consider the severity of the situation and consider methods for response. The response was slowed by political need to change some laws regarding declaring states of emergency.

    Also it only affecting the elderly is completely wrong. In Japan’s case the elderly are the most likely to die from the disease, but infections are highest amongst 20 and 30 year olds lately. While japan has managed to suppress severe cases through various treatments, those with slight and severe cases are coming out saying that they are not fully recovering. That means this could potentially scar the young infected for life.

  • Seriously folks, using "Ignore" on Mark B will save you a lot of grief. Hitting your head with a hammer is more productive to counter his "Ms. Information". Science requires a reasonable level of education to comprehend and a very high level of critical thinking to detect it's misuse. Few are capable of stopping the truly engaged fanatic for flawed logic. Filter your input accordingly for better mental health. He's earned the right to ignore.

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  • @McD said:
    Seriously folks, using "Ignore" on Mark B will save you a lot of grief. Hitting your head with a hammer is more productive to counter his "Ms. Information". Science requires a reasonable level of education to comprehend and a very high level of critical thinking to detect it's misuse. Few are capable of stopping the truly engaged fanatic for flawed logic. Filter your input accordingly for better mental health. He's earned the right to ignore.

    I know what you say is likely true...but I feel suddenly compelled to ignore all logic and do the exact opposite....😜

  • PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT:

    For those of you who are new to the forum and are unaware of how to block someone (like Mark B, for example) 🤗 This is how you terminate fake news:

    First, click on Mark's icon.

    Then select "edit profile:"

    Now select "IGNORE"

    Congratulations! You are just one tiny step away from forum bliss! 🙃

    If you are unsure whether or not to ignore Mark B, please seek psychiatric attention immediately — and don't forget your mask! 😷

    Otherwise, you are now free to enjoy the full benefits of forum membership without the drudgery of dealing with radical extremist troglodyte thought.

  • I would consider compensation from the government. You believe Putin posts on a music forum.

  • Oh not Putin, of course.

    Just one of his deranged minions...

  • Havent really followed thread. Echo chambers dont stimulate me.

    Whats the rational that Mark is a Putin minion?

  • Oh dont worry. You are just venting about a pandemic.

  • Via Ivor Cummings:

    Viral Issue Crucial Update Sept 8th: the Science, Logic and Data Explained! The ultimate update on our viral issue, bar none - Sept 8th 2020.

    DOWNLOAD IT HERE: https://we.tl/t-2HHpYJaz9F - you all have full permission to upload it wherever you want.

    Lockdown efficacy analysis papers: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/zg89tdgzkqnk2ep/AACZl8CE6oL1IWG2VuYOQAUea

    Hope-Simpson's stunning book: https://www.dropbox.com/s/4yda40j4hf9nbad/11th The Transmission of Influenza BOOK.pdf

  • I'm not venting, I'm laughing...

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  • @JohnnyGoodyear if only she had learned arithmetic at school...

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  • The other key that Donnie is lying is anytime he uses the phrase “believe me!”

    This is typically used when he’s trying to pass-off a real whopper...

  • For those who might perhaps doubt me:

    BELIVE ME!!!!

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    @Max23 but it doesn’t even add up correctly, right? It’s 100% fail. Quite an achievement.

  • Also be keenly aware of Trump using “accordion hands“ to telegraph his lies:

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  • @mahko said:
    Via Ivor Cummings:

    Viral Issue Crucial Update Sept 8th: the Science, Logic and Data Explained! The ultimate update on our viral issue, bar none - Sept 8th 2020.

    DOWNLOAD IT HERE: https://we.tl/t-2HHpYJaz9F - you all have full permission to upload it wherever you want.

    Lockdown efficacy analysis papers: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/zg89tdgzkqnk2ep/AACZl8CE6oL1IWG2VuYOQAUea

    Hope-Simpson's stunning book: https://www.dropbox.com/s/4yda40j4hf9nbad/11th The Transmission of Influenza BOOK.pdf

    Yes, it's a good video. Ivor Cummins is well respected in the medical community. He also did a follow up video taking on a junior doctor who tried to debunk him.

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    I know this doesn't rise to the authority of 8chan or whatever, but here's an NYT piece about masks and misinformation.

    This Misinformation Was Coming From Inside the House
    Sept. 22, 2020
    By Zach Montague

    It would have been a dangerous assertion in the middle of a deadly pandemic no matter where it came from: that wearing masks has “little to no medical value” and could do more “harm” than wearing no mask at all.

    But it was especially remarkable given the source. Published on the right-wing website RedState, it turned out to have been written under a pseudonym by William B. Crews, a public affairs officer at the National Institutes of Health, promoting the same type of discredited information about dealing with the virus that his employer was working aggressively to beat back.

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