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Piano Motifs by Fernando Morales

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  • heshes
    edited September 2020

    @McD said:

    Having that information would open up a lot of possibilities, right?

    How about a feature that is based upon you inputing the chord progression with some precision?

    For fans of this approach to building tracks of music there are several apps that deliver on
    these ideas:

    Session Band - uses live studio musician recordings so the results are stunning
    iRealPro - toy synthesized instruments so the results are not great but hundreds of tunes are out there in their cloud
    iBassist - integrates with the LumBeats Drummers... chordal tracks a so, so. Getting better.
    One Man Band - an auto-accompainiest that reacts to realtime chord guides

    I would add to that list the ChordBot app, which seems like it should get more attention. Maybe part of the problem is that the name doesn't convey very well that the app actually creates and plays arrangements quite well in a wide variety of styles, allowing lots of control and variation. In some ways it's as good or better than any of the apps listed above. https://chordbot.com/

    With iRealPro you can always export the midi and use your own voices. ChordBot is not as easy to use, but allows much more control over the arrangement.

  • @JimP4nsen said:
    @azul3D_Apps Thanks for another great update!

    Internally you already have the chord progressions used for the melodies, right? Would it be possible to also output the chords into the MIDI file (maybe optional as a third track)?

    Hi @JimP4nsen,
    Yes, the chords are there internally but in what I would call a “raw” format. They are then manipulated depending on random parameters to obtain the chord being played. Mapping this to a readable chord would have to be done (at this point not a trivial task). Eventually when user input chords are implemented, this conversion will have to be done.
    AFAIK, MIDI doesn’t have a standard way for including chords. I think it can be faked by using a text Metadata event, which would have to be displayed by your MIDI importer/player.
    A while back @White had suggested using the following web based analyzer to get an idea of the chords being used: https://solmire.com/chordfinder/
    This isn’t a perfect solution but might give you a general idea of the chords being used.

  • Hey folks, noob contribution here but I’m enjoying getting my toes wet...
    I purchased piano motifs last night and was curious as to what chords were being generated so I could add guitar and harp etc. I found that importing the motifs into Cubasis and sending the midi out (via audiobus with Cubasis as the midi input and Tonality grand staff as the effect) I was able to watch the motifs being played and Tonality told me what chords were being generated. It helped to slow the tempo down. The left hand bass notes in channel 2 were often basic chords but the addition of the right hand melody in channel 1 added to the overall chord construction and there were many beautiful, extended chords. This allowed to me figure out what I would play over the top.
    Hope this is useful to someone as I have been learning from you lot with all of your tips.

  • Nice one Ian, I hadn't thought of using Tonality for this. @rud

  • @Gavinski said:
    Nice one Ian, I hadn't thought of using Tonality for this. @rud

    Yes... good tip.

    FYI: StaffPad also can determine chords in an imported MIDI "score" and display a "Chord Track" after analyzing the current tracks for vertical chord patterns.

  • @rud said:
    Hey folks, noob contribution here but I’m enjoying getting my toes wet...
    I purchased piano motifs last night and was curious as to what chords were being generated so I could add guitar and harp etc.

    Another cool option is the Chord Finder website, which quickly determines chords from MIDI files.

    It has been mentioned previously on the forum and is pretty slick:

    https://solmire.com/chordfinder/

  • Ah, understood, thanks 😊

  • @SNystrom did not know about this, thanks for the heads up!

  • @yowza said:
    Really loving all the updates, great job Fernando!

    I'm not the world's authority on music theory but I have been a student of it for years and I'm noticing as more scales and modes are getting added to PM, I'm hearing what I consider "wrong" notes creeping in that weren't there in earlier versions so I'm trying to figure out what's going on.

    @yowza, I have been looking at the issues with unpleasant melodies especially with non-Major/Minor modes. I have found that some of the melody type algorithms were not working that well with some of the modes. I will be refinining these for the next revision. Thanks for your input.

  • @azul3D_Apps said:
    @yowza, I have been looking at the issues with unpleasant melodies especially with non-Major/Minor modes. I have found that some of the melody type algorithms were not working that well with some of the modes. I will be refinining these for the next revision. Thanks for your input.

    Please consider making an option that will keep the same chord progression across multiple "iterations".
    I'm pumping your "compositional sketches" into other tools as MIDI and would love to be able to generate
    more musical materials from the same progressions. Just 2 voices is a bit limiting. I have to resort to actually playing or composing and that's real work.

  • @azul3D_Apps said:

    @yowza, I have been looking at the issues with unpleasant melodies especially with non-Major/Minor modes. I have found that some of the melody type algorithms were not working that well with some of the modes. I will be refinining these for the next revision. Thanks for your input.

    Awesomeness. The app that keeps on giving!

  • @McD said:

    Please consider making an option that will keep the same chord progression across multiple "iterations".
    I'm pumping your "compositional sketches" into other tools as MIDI and would love to be able to generate
    more musical materials from the same progressions. Just 2 voices is a bit limiting. I have to resort to actually playing or composing and that's real work.

    I do have to second this notion. Maybe you could lock either the progression or the Melody and Then generate a new part for just the part that is unlocked. That way, for example, if you like the chords but not the melody you could lock the chords, and generate a new melody until you like one to keep and Vice versa.

  • There are really only about 5-10 chord progressions in vogue at any given time according to Hook Theories
    analysis of pop music data. Maybe start with the top 5 as options? I could just generate a dozen #3's and
    use that material for my A section and the do a B section based on #4's. I suspect you already did something along these lines and we're really moving into proprietary conversations. My bad.

  • @McD said:

    Please consider making an option that will keep the same chord progression across multiple "iterations".
    I'm pumping your "compositional sketches" into other tools as MIDI and would love to be able to generate
    more musical materials from the same progressions. Just 2 voices is a bit limiting. I have to resort to actually playing or composing and that's real work.

    Wonderful idea @McD

  • @Gavinski said:
    Wonderful idea @McD

    For a second I thought you were the developer.

  • Fantastic idea @McD :)
    I‘m also still working on some examples for tracks with Piano Motifs melody plus Pure Acid Bassline 🙈
    Your request might actually urge me to get some tracks done 😄
    Thanks for that!

  • edited September 2020

    A new version of Piano Motifs (v2.5) has been released to the App Store.

    This version has the following new features:
    • 2/4 and 6/8 Time Signatures
    • improved and fixed melody algorithms specially in modal scales
    • new chord progressions

    If you are interested in listening to the music that Piano Motifs can generate you can find some samples at:
    https://soundcloud.com/azul-3d

    Enjoy!

  • @azul3D_Apps Thanks for the update.. ❤ 6/8..

  • @azul3D_Apps said:
    A new version of Piano Motifs (v2.5) has been released to the App Store.

    This version has the following new features:
    • 2/4 and 6/8 Time Signatures
    • improved and fixed melody algorithms specially in modal scales
    • new chord progressions

    If you are interested in listening to the music that Piano Motifs can generate you can find some samples at:
    https://soundcloud.com/azul-3d

    Enjoy!

    Thx, this is a wonderful app, really useful!!

  • Great Fernando, thank you! @azul3D_Apps

  • @McD : Took me some time, but here are some examples ... :

    Melody from Piano Motifs :

    Melody from Piano Motifs, Bassline from Pure Acid :

    Any feedback is, of course, appreciated :)

    @azul3D_Apps : Thanks again for this fantastic app :)

    I noticed that sometimes the tracks of the exported MIDI files have a different length, e.g.
    the first track 17 bars and the second track 16 bars. Is this fixed by ticking the "loop ready" option?

    And is there a reason why the info display is not always enabled? This is something I always
    turn on after every start.

  • @JimP4nsen said:
    @McD : Took me some time, but here are some examples ... :

    Melody from Piano Motifs :

    Melody from Piano Motifs, Bassline from Pure Acid :

    Any feedback is, of course, appreciated :)

    @azul3D_Apps : Thanks again for this fantastic app :)

    I noticed that sometimes the tracks of the exported MIDI files have a different length, e.g.
    the first track 17 bars and the second track 16 bars. Is this fixed by ticking the "loop ready" option?

    And is there a reason why the info display is not always enabled? This is something I always
    turn on after every start.

    @JimP4nsen, great motif elaboration, instrumentation choices and mix resulting in some really cool tracks! Congrats! Curious about the vocals on the first track, which give it an eerie, enigmatic feel.

    To answer your inquiries, yes, the MIDI loop ready option will make sure that both the melody and accompaniment tracks are the same number of bars. When this option is not on, the last note of the melody will be extended and faded so that there isn’t an abrupt ending for the motif.

    On the info button, it was initially there to try to maintain the UI clean and pictographic by default. I think I’m changing my mind about it and will probably migrate to removing it.

    Before that, I need to address a small issue that showed up with iOS 14. Apple (sigh!) changed the behavior of the slider resulting in an incorrect value of BPM at startup. It gets fixed as soon as you move the BPM slider. It’s taking a while because Apple’s review process is taking much longer than normal (all devs trying to update their apps to fix all the stuff iOS14 broke). Did I say I don’t recommend anybody update to iOS14 for now?

  • @azul3D_Apps : Thanks :)
    For the vocals I had to rely on Splice. No one really wants to hear me sing :D

    I'm hearing more and more about stuff that is broken under IOS14 (like the Zeeon presets). I guess I'll stay away from it for a while ...

  • @JimP4nsen said:
    @McD : Took me some time, but here are some examples ... :
    Any feedback is, of course, appreciated :)

    These are an excellent demo of this app as a generator tool for assembling MIDI from
    various sources and using the other great music apps in coordination.

    I noticed that sometimes the tracks of the exported MIDI files have a different length, e.g.
    the first track 17 bars and the second track 16 bars. Is this fixed by ticking the "loop ready" option?

    Yes. I import into StaffPad and the non-loop ready always finishes the melody with a final root based ending bar while the Loop ready assumes it will get wrapped back to the start of the pattern.

    And is there a reason why the info display is not always enabled?

    I suspect the GUI will continues to get variations. I think this core music engine could be wrapped into dozens of applications at the whim of the developer. I think he should freeze
    Piano Motifs and start considering new skins that expose different use cases like a
    "Live" product that sends out coordinated MIDI on multiple channels with mixing controls.

    It's the cleverness of the melody making and chord pregression thought that distinguishes this app over something more mechanical like Fugue Machine which embraces randomness as a key virtue and hopes the logic of similarity impresses the listener.

    This developer thinks like a composer and makes you sound like one too. They are not all gems but the cost of a re-do to get it right is a lot like designing sounds on a complex synth by hitting the "Dice" widget over over. Riffer is a good melody maker for that approach
    but 2 Riffers might not do what Piano Motifs does and an Orchestra Motifs with 10 tracks would be amazing to write film music in hours... not weeks. Just pick your key, your favorite chord progression or design one and hit "Create" iteratively until the right mood goes out.

  • Thanks @McD :)
    I also tried all the other music "generators" that came along my way. And while Riffer sometimes outputs nice stuff Piano Motifs is still in a different league. I love to play around with the motifs with different instruments and see how it changes the overall feel. The only thing "missing" for me is currently the output of the chords. And I really liked your proposal of keeping the basic chords for several consecutive melodies. This could be a great feature!
    Reminds me of the variations that you can create with Ripplemaker for example.

  • @McD: and an Orchestra Motifs with 10 tracks would be amazing to write film music in hours... not weeks. Just pick your key, your favorite chord progression or design one and hit "Create" iteratively until the right mood goes out.

    Oh man, that is pure genius, Professor! 🤗

    Hope you get a cut of "Film scoring for the rest of us!" 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

  • edited September 2020

    @azul3D_Apps
    Do you know this book? It contains some ideas that would be useful for a melody algorithm:

    https://www.amazon.com/Shaping-Forces-Music-Counterpoint-Orchestral/dp/0486233464

    I would recommend Chapters 5 and 7 especially.

  • @SNystrom said:
    @McD: and an Orchestra Motifs with 10 tracks would be amazing to write film music in hours... not weeks. Just pick your key, your favorite chord progression or design one and hit "Create" iteratively until the right mood goes out.

    Oh man, that is pure genius, Professor! 🤗

    Hope you get a cut of "Film scoring for the rest of us!" 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

    I'm sure Fernando is already thinking of cool features to implement. If they happen to come anywhere near my wish list he's just following the "great minds" theory of art and science.

    I don't believe in asking for a "cut" based on a publicly documented idea. Hitting "Post" just means its free for anyone to consider... ANYONE. If I get an idea worth some real money without any effort other than spouting off I'll probably forget what it was in the morning when the drugs wear off. LSD was invented by accident and NOT by using it, by the way.
    Using it gave way to the most profound visions of nonsense you can imagine. It's the key
    to the non-senses.

  • @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:
    @azul3D_Apps
    Do you know this book? It contains some ideas that would be useful for a melody algorithm:

    https://www.amazon.com/Shaping-Forces-Music-Counterpoint-Orchestral/dp/0486233464

    I would recommend Chapters 5 and 7 especially.

    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr, thanks for the recommendation. In the world of music there is always new things to learn and experiment with.

  • @McD: "I don't believe in asking for a "cut" based on a publicly documented idea. Hitting "Post" just means its free for anyone to consider... ANYONE."

    Oh, I know. I was just kidding — while still pointing-out to other forum members the great contributions you have made to not only this app but dozens of others over your many years here.

    It's the pursuit of better apps without consideration of personal gains that makes this forum so incredible for us as well as our awesome developers...

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