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@McD That was always the intention of Piano Motifs even from its humble beginnings.
Thanks for your support!
Here's what happens when I import the same Piano Motifs MIDI files into StaffPad and assign the parts to the default strings. I did a small amount of editing on the cello chord voicing to get a more open sound... moving an internal note up an octave by hand.
Entering this amount of music with the pencil is how most use StaffPad but this gets more done quickly.
I really like this @McD. Is there a way to pen in staccato and legato segments in StaffPad the upper voicings of the violins are drowning out the harmony parts. It could be a volume thing too.
Still amazing anyway.
Yes. I could labor over the articulations and volume automations in StaffPad and get a much better result. (Don't hold your breath while waiting). I like to get close and move on.
My next version applies a raft of IOS FX and some drums to this track in AUM.
Can you add 2 additional MIDI file save options to the app:
1) Save Melody MIDI file
2) Save Accompaniment MIDI file
This will allow transfers in 2 steps of a composition into a DAW like Xequence 2 and skip the
"save to files" step that's currently required. I would give you a tip for this feature and I'm sure 1-2 other will too and that will get you close to a Venti Latte at StarBucks or your favorite Cafe.
THIS!
If he's not otherwise occupied, I wager $2 we get this within a week. It seems like an easy "ask". If I loose he gets $2. If I win, he gets $2 from me and "what say you?"
A new version of Piano Motifs (v2.19) is now available. This version has the following new features:
• Added support for User Defined Melody Constraints. This allows the user to define the scale tones to be used in a motif.
• Added new accompaniments.
• Added passing chords for certain chord accompaniments.
• Enabled repeat sequences for progressions with borrowed chords.
• Added new chord progressions.
Enjoy!
@McD, this should be easy to implement. You should see it in the next revision. I’m already savoring that espresso from my favorite café. ☕️😀.
OK... I'll tip a LARGE now for the update and the commitment to add this extra feature.
Buon Appetito.
I’ll pitch in for a muffin or a scone or something.
I'm good for a slice of cake or a packet of biscuits.
OK... I still had an extra melody MIDI file left so I added some French Horns and Trumpets to the Orchestra and added another baseline using a Bass Trombone. Using these 16 bar loops I haven't experienced a single crash in StaffPad (yet).
Any suggestions for a title? I'm getting "Ascent to the Gallows" in an alternate universe for some guy named Mike Pense. Weird, huh? Stupid name. Probably has a sister named Six... none the richer.
Lovely, @McD . Each version gets richer and it does now sound like the track that heralds the penultimate event in a tragedy.
@mcd, @lukesleepwalker, @JohnnyGoodyear
Thanks for your gastronomic support!
I bought this app the day you announced. And have only payed with it once, so far> @McD said:
Wait, why would it crash? It’s only a minute long. Is staffpad that unstable?
I was generating 64 bar MIDI's for StaffPad and I have rolled back to 16 bar imports.
MIDI Import in StaffPad for large projects is very unstable but updates have been provided
claiming improved behavior.
StaffPad is intended to be used by composers using a pencil and the MIDI feature is NOT it's
core use case. For handwriting music it's an amazingly stable app. It renders the associated audio for each measure after entry so the complete file audio can be checked at any point
in seconds by hitting play. Any small change is immediately re-rendered. It's a great app for
anyone wanting to hear the orchestra play music as it is entered and check for the sound and tweak the articulations, the phrasing and how the rhythmic notation is interpreted.
The 3rd party libraries available for StaffPad are all ports of Sound Libraries from the desktop world with 50-80% discounts on pricing.
So, don't think of StaffPad as being excessively buggy... it's not. But it's MIDI and Music XML
import is it's weakest feature. Only significant if you seek to minimize the use of the pencil.
Using the pencil takes practice and I find it frustrating enough that I keep seeking ways to import generated patterns and motifs from other apps like Riffer, Piano Motifs, Fugue Machine, etc.
I’ve been reading as much as I can and there seem to be lot’s of pro users here. I hope a complete newbie question is ok. I stumble on a motif that I like and save. Is there a way to see what the chord progression was used to create the motif other than saving it as a midi file and loading it into another app ?
No. There's an option to add the Scale and BPM details but it's wise to jot down your chord progressions.
We could ask @azul3D_Apps to also generate a details text file and I'm sure he'd do it if enough people want those configuration details to be archived. I'd like it and would value it with a $2 tip.
Then we could ask to import setting from the details file and generate another batch of melodies and accompaniment.
My "ask" based on current work would be a "new age" baseline option which is a rolling of root-5th-10th
using 8th notes. Root always occurs on 1 (and maybe 3 for a variation) and the remaining beats are 5th-10th rocking back and forth.
Thanks, I use and understand the Scale and BPM options but if piano motif generated the chord progression I have no way of knowing what it was ? When you use “new” to create a motif it would be nice to know the chords of the motif that was created.
I'd imagine what your asking for is probably not as difficult as other features being requested. I'd like to recall the chord progression for something that works out well, too
and its easy to forget chords you entered a week ago... or even an hour ago in my case...
or even... what were we talking about?
Just ask @azul3D_Apps. He's eager to keep the conversation going and sell more copies of the app and I'd hope people also use the TIP feature to encourage continued updates.
Thanks for the comment and help. I was afraid I was missing something. Just seems like it show be able to show the progression being played. I’m enjoying this app so much I did the large tip last evening. It’s well deserved
I have noticed it will keep the progression intact as I keep playing and I was also able to go in and change settings like the Accompaniment TYPE. That's a cool feature. I like to make a BASS accompaniment using the lower octaves and then create another accompaniment in the middle octaves using CHORDS or ARPEGGIO. Then in my DAW I can import the BASSLINE, the CHORDS, the APPEGGIOS and all my melody variations and decide which to keep. You can also create longer arrangements where the BASS changes to an ARPEGGIO and later to CHORDS, etc.
Every new feature seems to create new opportunities to generate a folder full of useful MIDI
variations.
Song forms can be generated by changing the chord progression between parts A, B and C and back to the A set.
It's also good to change the instrumentation playing each part and act an the orchestrator
of the composed piece.
It's really helpful to quickly get ideas into StaffPad and save the laborious effort of notating
a composition using the pencil. It's easy to move notes with the pencil so just getting interesting rhythms in via MIDI is helpful. I've just noticed that 16 bars is probably a good
choice since longer MIDI files seem to make StaffPad fail/crash. StaffPad updates having been making progress but this is the weak point in StaffPad which is in all other areas very stable.
I tried passing MIDI through Notion to generate Music XML files but they also in longer version would cause StaffPad to crash.
I watch videos of composers work in StaffPad and they show me that I really need to practice
using he pencil but you must also have a solid understanding of music theory and notation
is use the product as intended. Piano Motifs lets you "automate" the theoretical aspects of
composing to get started.
I'm experimenting with another workflow.
as an instrument and use a split screen set up with AUM to be able to trigger Koala loops
and play a SWAM Flugelhorn Horn over the top.
Here's my first experiment. I could see a more capable looper getting some good ideas
out of this process:
I’m sure it’s been asked but this is a long thread, is there a way to adjust the measure length of chords when doing my own progressions? I’m trying to fit two chords into one measure
That looks like a feature request. Probably not a trivial one but worth getting.
A new version of Piano Motifs (v2.20) is available for download. This version has the following new features:
• Added 2 new MIDI export options: MIDI-Melody and MIDI-Accomp.
• Added voice leading inversions functionality for randomly generated motifs.
• Added new chord progressions.
Enjoy!
@jgm12, glad to hear you’re enjoying the app, thanks for your support.
Displaying the chords for Piano Motifs generated chord progressions isn’t straightforward. There is an initial basic chord progression, but depending on the accompaniment and many internal random parameters the actual chords in the progression get processed and modified. Sometimes the accompaniment changes the chord several times in a bar. It then isn’t easy to determine the chords after this processing.
Hi @McD, I had plans of adding a user defined arpeggio accompaniment. The user would then have the ability to program their own arpeggio patterns.
@Fingolfinzz, @McD, definitely not a trivial one due to the way PM manages chord progressions. I will investigate what could be done here for future revisions.