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Elliot Garage’s new app is called “sEGments”

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  • No worries. glad it’s working.

  • thanks for your nice feedback! I'm taking a little rest lately because I'm searching for my new house...finger crossed :)

  • @king_picadillo said:
    I normally use BM3 sampler, but sEGments has bpm and key detect and lazy chop so it was a no brainer. Been hoping for Serato Sample for IOS and this seemed close in those respects. I loaded a portion of a song recorded from vinyl and it detected the BPM incorrectly by 50+ bpm and not a multiple of the correct bpm (bpm 83 detected 138.5) and also mis-detected key as A when it’s Gm. I loaded about 16 bars, maybe not exactly cut to 16 (16.3 or so) maybe that was the issue? Hopefully updates improve these functions as they are the only reason I bought the app. My current workflow involves Chordify, Audiokeychain, Beat Time!... I was hoping to simplify my workflow. Paid $10 and it’s a new app so I’m not tripping, just hoping...

    How does Segments' pitch-shift and time-stretch compare to BM3's?

  • Not a knock on sEGments at all because BM3 has it’s fair share of other issues, but its stretch and pitch is pretty ill, really clean. Unfortunately no pitch detect and the bpm Calc also doesn’t work on imperfect loops. Serato does everything best, but no iOS solution.

  • @king_picadillo said:
    Not a knock on sEGments at all because BM3 has it’s fair share of other issues, but its stretch and pitch is pretty ill, really clean. Unfortunately no pitch detect and the bpm Calc also doesn’t work on imperfect loops. Serato does everything best, but no iOS solution.

    Still can't tell. Do you find Segments time-stretch and pitch-shift comparable to BM3's quality. I don't need automatic pitch or tempo setting.

  • In a nutshell, BM3 has cleaner/better stretching and pitching in my opinion.

  • @king_picadillo said:
    In a nutshell, BM3 has cleaner/better stretching and pitching in my opinion.

    Tx

  • I got to page ten and got impatient. Is it possible to do the following?

    Load a loop of something—say a bar of a rhythm guitar riff. Do not have any slices, but use a midi keyboard and have that riff transposed by semitones chromatically, while Stretching the loop, keeping the tempo in sync with the host. Can this be done?

  • wimwim
    edited July 2020

    @Audiojunkie said:
    I got to page ten and got impatient. Is it possible to do the following?

    Load a loop of something—say a bar of a rhythm guitar riff. Do not have any slices, but use a midi keyboard and have that riff transposed by semitones chromatically, while Stretching the loop, keeping the tempo in sync with the host. Can this be done?

    No, sorry.

  • @Audiojunkie said:
    I got to page ten and got impatient. Is it possible to do the following?

    Load a loop of something—say a bar of a rhythm guitar riff. Do not have any slices, but use a midi keyboard and have that riff transposed by semitones chromatically, while Stretching the loop, keeping the tempo in sync with the host. Can this be done?

    Sorry to say no. That was my hope also. Dev said it was too much for the cpu.

  • edited July 2020

    So, if I understand correctly, you can chromatically pitch a sample without time stretching to match tempo. Or, you can Stretch a loop to match tempo, but without the ability to play it chromatically. But not both at the same time.

    Couldn’t there be the ability to pitch the entire loop chromatically and stretch a sample to tempo if there are no segments and no effects used? It could be a special “third mode” for doing nothing more than pitching an entire single loop and stretching it to match tempo and nothing more—No segments, no effects, etc. just a specialized combo mode that doesn’t use the other features that would use a lot of CPU. It would basically be a mode that would allow any linear DAW to work like the desktop version of ACID PRO. The technology is already built into the app—it just needs to be combined into a special mode and extra CPU using features need to be limited from use in that mode. It is clear that this would be incredibly useful to more than just me.

    Imagine! ACID PRO on ios!! 😍

    @ElliottGarage would you please very seriously consider this feature?

  • edited July 2020

    @ElliottGarage said:
    @YannisHatzi in the picture there's no audio imported into sEGments, so 120BPM is just the 'default' value

    I was not very clear in the previous post. The “issue” is when I record 2 bars of a (ex. 100bpm) drum loop, the outcome is not a 100bpm loop for some reason (even if I hit “synch” before rec):

    SOLVED!

    After you stop the recording, you need to press “SYNC” again, in order to playback in the project’s bpm.

    So, before AND after “REC”...you NEED to press “SYNC”. 🤓

  • @Audiojunkie said:
    So, if I understand correctly, you can chromatically pitch a sample without time stretching to match tempo. Or, you can Stretch a loop to match tempo, but without the ability to play it chromatically. But not both at the same time.

    Couldn’t there be the ability to pitch the entire loop chromatically and stretch a sample to tempo if there are no segments and no effects used? It could be a special “third mode” for doing nothing more than pitching an entire single loop and stretching it to match tempo and nothing more—No segments, no effects, etc. just a specialized combo mode that doesn’t use the other features that would use a lot of CPU. It would basically be a mode that would allow any linear DAW to work like the desktop version of ACID PRO. The technology is already built into the app—it just needs to be combined into a special mode and extra CPU using features need to be limited from use in that mode. It is clear that this would be incredibly useful to more than just me.

    Imagine! ACID PRO on ios!! 😍

    @ElliottGarage would you please very seriously consider this feature?

    This would be great. Similarly, I don’t think you can stretch each slice by a different amount. Unless I’m missing it?

  • @Audiojunkie yes, that's something I'm definetely into...just need to work on CPU optimization.

  • Thanks to The iOS Community YT channel for sharing these great sEGments samples for free. Go grab ‘em all! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCuPt_shHX0znGwciBHaPOA/search?query=segments

  • Any keys mode updates?

  • @Turntablist not yet, still working on stability improvments.

    About that, a new update (1.1.5) has been released yesterday. Please keep me posted about crashes or issues writing at [email protected] :)

  • Update seems very responsive... Thanks..

  • @ElliottGarage thanks for this app. Having fun with it. Question. Is there any glide or portamento function or a way to stimulate this in keys mode? Would be great for 808 samples.

  • edited August 2020

    @ElliottGarage hi is there a way to use just the Segments Fx in a DAW . Was trying to route audio into Segments within my DAW hosts. Segments appears in my fx plugin lists as Segments Fx but nothing happens to the sound?

  • edited August 2020

    @Lil_Stu07 I have 'portamento' in my TODO list :)

    @stormbeats it's not possible, sEGments FX is intended to be used just to record incoming audio.

    Do you guys think releasing a real sEGments FX app could be interesting? Maybe I can create a special price bundle for sEGments users...

  • Dooooo it

    @ElliottGarage said:
    @Lil_Stu07 I have 'portamento' in my TODO list :)

    @stormbeats it's not possible, sEGments FX is intended to be used just to record incoming audio.

    Do you guys think releasing a real sEGments FX app could be interesting? Maybe I can create a special price bundle for sEGments users...

  • @ElliottGarage said:
    @Lil_Stu07 I have 'portamento' in my TODO list :)

    @stormbeats it's not possible, sEGments FX is intended to be used just to record incoming audio.

    Do you guys think releasing a real sEGments FX app could be interesting? Maybe I can create a special price bundle for sEGments users...

    @ElliottGarage ok thanks Yes fx would be good or incorporate it like how Drambo works as an Aufx option. :)

  • @ElliottGarage said:
    @Lil_Stu07 I have 'portamento' in my TODO list :)

    @stormbeats it's not possible, sEGments FX is intended to be used just to record incoming audio.

    Do you guys think releasing a real sEGments FX app could be interesting? Maybe I can create a special price bundle for sEGments users...

    Sweeeeeeet! This app is shaping up superbly. FX app would be dope. Which fx were you thinking? It’d be nice to have something like CB3’s SpinFX as an AU.

  • @Lil_Stu07 basically it would be the same sEGments effect section (reverb, delay, bitcrusher and filter) to be used out of the app. I've already 1 or 2 cool features in mind :D

  • @ElliottGarage said:
    @Lil_Stu07 basically it would be the same sEGments effect section (reverb, delay, bitcrusher and filter) to be used out of the app. I've already 1 or 2 cool features in mind :D

    🤘🏾Groovy. Those XY pads are pretty awesome.

  • @ElliottGarage Not interested in another FX app but understand that others would be interested. However, am interested in whether you'll continue to develop some of the sEGments features that you've described previously in this thread.

  • @lukesleepwalker sure! please send me your request, feedback or suggestion to [email protected]

  • @ElliottGarage I love Your great app sEGments! But for me as a technical idiot some of the instructions in the manual are too short. Question: #ChokeGroups How can i create a group or assign different segments to the 5 groups? I did not find an explanation in this thread here. Are there good tutorials or similar for this question out there? Thanx ahead! :-)

  • @kmes you can find tutorials here

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