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LK - for Ableton Live & Midi by Imaginando - AUv3 Clip Launcher Finally Available in AUM!!

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  • @onerez said:

    because i have done that and it still does

    Just to be sure. Where are you disabling LPX DAW in and out? Inside LK or on AUM?

  • @sinosoidal sent you PM with video.

  • edited November 2020

    @sinosoidal said:

    @Emanresu said:
    issues drawing automation 1/32. if start empty and draw full lenght it is obvious

    Can you please make us a video demonstrating the problem? Thanks! :blush:

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1DiLdIjmdE_iCiFWO-7t1RO8x3ltjFh3m/view?usp=drivesdk

    Examples for 1/16 and 1/32

  • @Emanresu said:

    @sinosoidal said:

    @Emanresu said:
    issues drawing automation 1/32. if start empty and draw full lenght it is obvious

    Can you please make us a video demonstrating the problem? Thanks! :blush:

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1DiLdIjmdE_iCiFWO-7t1RO8x3ltjFh3m/view?usp=drivesdk

    Examples for 1/16 and 1/32

    Thank you! This will be fixed. Thanks for reporting.

  • LK 1.8.4 is out now:

    • Fixed bug that would might cause LK to crash when disconnecting midi devices
    • Added Launchpad X support
    • Added APC Key 25 support
    • Added Launchpad Mini MK2 support
    • Added the ability to switch off controller via Menu->Midi menu item
    • Added grid to automations editor with snap support
    • Properties context menu for track and scene
    • Midi trigger for scene launch and track stop
    • Midi trigger can now be a note
    • Recording of clips without pre defined length
    • Allow undo/redo recorded notes
    • Clip notes now have clip color
    • Shift+tap to select/deselect notes
    • General bug fixes and improvements
  • @sinosoidal said:
    LK 1.8.4 is out now:

    • Fixed bug that would might cause LK to crash when disconnecting midi devices
    • Added Launchpad X support
    • Added APC Key 25 support
    • Added Launchpad Mini MK2 support
    • Added the ability to switch off controller via Menu->Midi menu item
    • Added grid to automations editor with snap support
    • Properties context menu for track and scene
    • Midi trigger for scene launch and track stop
    • Midi trigger can now be a note
    • Recording of clips without pre defined length
    • Allow undo/redo recorded notes
    • Clip notes now have clip color
    • Shift+tap to select/deselect notes
    • General bug fixes and improvements

    Very happy to see how Lk is evolving, also considering the growing public of aficionados.

  • . > @sinosoidal said:

    LK 1.8.4 is out now:

    • Fixed bug that would might cause LK to crash when disconnecting midi devices
    • Added Launchpad X support
    • Added APC Key 25 support
    • Added Launchpad Mini MK2 support
    • Added the ability to switch off controller via Menu->Midi menu item
    • Added grid to automations editor with snap support
    • Properties context menu for track and scene
    • Midi trigger for scene launch and track stop
    • Midi trigger can now be a note
    • Recording of clips without pre defined length
    • Allow undo/redo recorded notes
    • Clip notes now have clip color
    • Shift+tap to select/deselect notes
    • General bug fixes and improvements

    Brilliant, had a quick play with my APC Key 25, works great.
    Thanks for all the nice updates - we’ll end up with Ableton on iOS at this rate. 😁

  • I am really happy with LK so far and really like it. However there is two things that I still could not wrap my head around:

    • Is there a way to record incoming MIDI without limit? Atm I crank up the clips length to some hundreds of bars, but it would be really nice to have an „infinite“ option for recording MIDI in Matrix mode
    • I really like the generative Melody and Chord creation tools, but is there a way to tune the generated MIDI notes apart from setting the lowest and highest notes? Somehow it only generates a mix between 8th and 16th notes pattern, but it would be awesome to set the resolution of the generated notes to e.g. a (random) mix of 32th, 16th and8th notes
  • @vrtx_void said:
    I am really happy with LK so far and really like it. However there is two things that I still could not wrap my head around:

    • Is there a way to record incoming MIDI without limit? Atm I crank up the clips length to some hundreds of bars, but it would be really nice to have an „infinite“ option for recording MIDI in Matrix mode

    Looks like this is mentioned in last comments :) Recording without predefined length is part of the very recent update.

  • edited November 2020

    @skrat said:

    @vrtx_void said:
    I am really happy with LK so far and really like it. However there is two things that I still could not wrap my head around:

    • Is there a way to record incoming MIDI without limit? Atm I crank up the clips length to some hundreds of bars, but it would be really nice to have an „infinite“ option for recording MIDI in Matrix mode

    Looks like this is mentioned in last comments :) Recording without predefined length is part of the very recent update.

    Wow, that‘s perfect :smile:

    However there is also something that I realized: Whenever I stop the playhead in AUM or go through some bars of generated MIDi it holds the last played MIDI note forever...is there a way to avoid that?

  • @vrtx_void said:
    However there is also something that I realized: Whenever I stop the playhead in AUM or go through some bars of generated MIDi it holds the last played MIDI note forever...is there a way to avoid that?

    That's probably a bug. If you know how to reproduce it sistematically, please record a video and share with us so we can fix it ASAP. Thanks! :blush:

  • @skrat said:

    @vrtx_void said:
    I am really happy with LK so far and really like it. However there is two things that I still could not wrap my head around:

    • Is there a way to record incoming MIDI without limit? Atm I crank up the clips length to some hundreds of bars, but it would be really nice to have an „infinite“ option for recording MIDI in Matrix mode

    Looks like this is mentioned in last comments :) Recording without predefined length is part of the very recent update.

    How do we turn on the option to record without a pre-determined length? I am not seeing how to do that in the new update.

  • wimwim
    edited November 2020

    @espiegel123 said:

    @skrat said:

    @vrtx_void said:
    I am really happy with LK so far and really like it. However there is two things that I still could not wrap my head around:

    • Is there a way to record incoming MIDI without limit? Atm I crank up the clips length to some hundreds of bars, but it would be really nice to have an „infinite“ option for recording MIDI in Matrix mode

    Looks like this is mentioned in last comments :) Recording without predefined length is part of the very recent update.

    How do we turn on the option to record without a pre-determined length? I am not seeing how to do that in the new update.

    I'm not sure the best way to do it, but one that works is to first turn off overdub, then add a clip. The clip shows with a red record dot on it. It will then record until you tap the clip again.

    Oddly, though, I can record from the AUM keyboard, but not from Rozeta XOX, even though I'm certain the routing is correct.

    [edit: 1) I'm not sure it's necessary to turn off overdub. just tapping to create an empty clip works? 2) see below for why XOX wasn't working]

  • wimwim
    edited November 2020

    Humm ... it seems that the highest midi channel that LK now accepting in AUM is channel 8. Bug? Has it always been this way?

    Steps to reproduce:

    • Set up a track with LK input, ALL channels (the default)
    • Route LK out to a plugin with all channels enabled.
    • Route the AUM keyboard to LK, arm the LK track, and verify that the plugin is heard.
    • Change the AUM keyboard up through channel 1 to 8, plugin is heard, change to 9 or above and plugin is no longer heard. notes will not be recorded either.
    • Try the same with a plugin such as Rozeta XOX, changing the output channel from 1 through 16. Same behavior.

    @sinosoidal

  • @wim said:

    @espiegel123 said:

    @skrat said:

    @vrtx_void said:
    I am really happy with LK so far and really like it. However there is two things that I still could not wrap my head around:

    • Is there a way to record incoming MIDI without limit? Atm I crank up the clips length to some hundreds of bars, but it would be really nice to have an „infinite“ option for recording MIDI in Matrix mode

    Looks like this is mentioned in last comments :) Recording without predefined length is part of the very recent update.

    How do we turn on the option to record without a pre-determined length? I am not seeing how to do that in the new update.

    I'm not sure the best way to do it, but one that works is to first turn off overdub, then add a clip. The clip shows with a red record dot on it. It will then record until you tap the clip again.

    Oddly, though, I can record from the AUM keyboard, but not from Rozeta XOX, even though I'm certain the routing is correct.

    [edit: 1) I'm not sure it's necessary to turn off overdub. just tapping to create an empty clip works? 2) see below for why XOX wasn't working]

    Thx Wim.

    So, it looks like you need to delete the default clip and create a new one by recording. Is there a way I’ve overlooked to set LK up so that your default clip is set to not have a predetermined length?

  • @espiegel123 said:

    @wim said:

    @espiegel123 said:

    @skrat said:

    @vrtx_void said:
    I am really happy with LK so far and really like it. However there is two things that I still could not wrap my head around:

    • Is there a way to record incoming MIDI without limit? Atm I crank up the clips length to some hundreds of bars, but it would be really nice to have an „infinite“ option for recording MIDI in Matrix mode

    Looks like this is mentioned in last comments :) Recording without predefined length is part of the very recent update.

    How do we turn on the option to record without a pre-determined length? I am not seeing how to do that in the new update.

    I'm not sure the best way to do it, but one that works is to first turn off overdub, then add a clip. The clip shows with a red record dot on it. It will then record until you tap the clip again.

    Oddly, though, I can record from the AUM keyboard, but not from Rozeta XOX, even though I'm certain the routing is correct.

    [edit: 1) I'm not sure it's necessary to turn off overdub. just tapping to create an empty clip works? 2) see below for why XOX wasn't working]

    Thx Wim.

    So, it looks like you need to delete the default clip and create a new one by recording. Is there a way I’ve overlooked to set LK up so that your default clip is set to not have a predetermined length?

    I think we better wait to hear from @sinosoidal. I don't think I quite get the process at this point.

  • Hi @sinosoidal - I have a couple crash logs to send you. What's the best way to do that? I can't get the PM to let me add any files other than pics.

  • @wim said:
    Hi @sinosoidal - I have a couple crash logs to send you. What's the best way to do that? I can't get the PM to let me add any files other than pics.

    The best way to submit crash reports is to have app analytics to be shared with the developers under privacy setting. They get automatically uploaded by the system and we do get them under the development tools.

    Are those crash reproducible sistematically? If so, you can also make us a video. Thanks! :blush:

  • @wim said:
    Humm ... it seems that the highest midi channel that LK now accepting in AUM is channel 8. Bug? Has it always been this way?

    Steps to reproduce:

    • Set up a track with LK input, ALL channels (the default)
    • Route LK out to a plugin with all channels enabled.
    • Route the AUM keyboard to LK, arm the LK track, and verify that the plugin is heard.
    • Change the AUM keyboard up through channel 1 to 8, plugin is heard, change to 9 or above and plugin is no longer heard. notes will not be recorded either.
    • Try the same with a plugin such as Rozeta XOX, changing the output channel from 1 through 16. Same behavior.

    @sinosoidal

    Sounds like a bug to me! We need to investigate.

  • @wim said:

    So, it looks like you need to delete the default clip and create a new one by recording. Is there a way I’ve overlooked to set LK up so that your default clip is set to not have a predetermined length?

    I think we better wait to hear from @sinosoidal. I don't think I quite get the process at this point.

    Maybe it makes sense not to have a default clip now.

  • @sinosoidal said:

    @wim said:

    So, it looks like you need to delete the default clip and create a new one by recording. Is there a way I’ve overlooked to set LK up so that your default clip is set to not have a predetermined length?

    I think we better wait to hear from @sinosoidal. I don't think I quite get the process at this point.

    Maybe it makes sense not to have a default clip now.

    +1

  • @sinosoidal said:

    @wim said:
    Hi @sinosoidal - I have a couple crash logs to send you. What's the best way to do that? I can't get the PM to let me add any files other than pics.

    The best way to submit crash reports is to have app analytics to be shared with the developers under privacy setting. They get automatically uploaded by the system and we do get them under the development tools.

    Are those crash reproducible sistematically? If so, you can also make us a video. Thanks! :blush:

    Ok, that’s enabled, so hopefully you get them already.
    I can’t consistently cause a crash. It always seems to be when doing something outside of LK, like changing midi routing in AUM. Theses two times I was changing things in the AUM routing matrix (and no, I didn’t create a loop). Transport wasn’t running. If I can reproduce, I’ll try to do a video.

  • @sinosoidal said:

    @vrtx_void said:
    However there is also something that I realized: Whenever I stop the playhead in AUM or go through some bars of generated MIDi it holds the last played MIDI note forever...is there a way to avoid that?

    That's probably a bug. If you know how to reproduce it sistematically, please record a video and share with us so we can fix it ASAP. Thanks! :blush:.

    After some tests I realized that it was not LK but the weird MIDI receiving behavior of the specific synth (Modal from the Spectrum Bundle) that I was using. So no worries, now it works :smile:

  • edited November 2020

    @sinosoidal / anyone - help reqd please! I am absolutely loving LK as I begin to understand it and Ableton more, (incredible how much of Ableton feel LK packs in, actually) so this is definitely in the ‘RTFM/noob’ box, but...

    ...I am trying to work in MIDI mode away from the computer in the Matrix screen. I want to create an ‘empty’ clip in a track, and then use the Composer piano roll to make a clip. Very basic problem - How do I create an empty clip in the first place? The manual says:

    ‘ Clips (MIDI mode)
    To create a new clip you just need to DOUBLE TAP any empty grid cell (any cell containing a stop button).
    You can also create one using the composer section. Tapping a clip will trigger it, and it will start to play accordingly to the sessions trigger quantisation so that everything is in sync. To select a clip without triggering it, use the shift modifier button.’

    Long pressing on an empty cell gets me the context menu where I can import MIDI, no problem. I can also use that to Copy a clip - but I am double tapping until the cows come home on empty cells and not creating clips. I am clearly missing the point somehow - what do I need to do? I’ve circled where I am double tapping on the pic below - what am I missing?

    BTW - I also tried double tapping the stop button immediately below the circled cell - also nada. And although the manual says ‘... You can also create one using the composer section.’ as far as I can see, it doesn’t tell you anywhere how to do that. Confused.com here at the mo, I’m afraid.

  • @Svetlovska you have to use the shift button and create a new scene first to be able to create clips.
    I use a template with 8 tracks and 8 scenes with standard midi in from 8 channels to not have to repeat this process every time.

  • Hi @Frank303 - thanks! I’ll try that. I had sussed the shift button as far as duping tracks were concerned, didn’t realise you needed to do that to allow clips as well.

  • @Svetlovska said:
    Hi @Frank303 - thanks! I’ll try that. I had sussed the shift button as far as duping tracks were concerned, didn’t realise you needed to do that to allow clips as well.

    Double tap is valid on a empty cell, but there must be cell. :blush:

  • edited November 2020

    @sinosoidal , @Frank303 : yup, that worked! :) My operator error - I was reading down column 3, as it were, trying to create a clip in the empty space below the original, (because this is what I tend to do in Ableton), rather than going along the row to the next column to do it.

    FWIW my ‘instinctive’ behaviour when double tapping the void wasn’t working for me included a long press and drag on the filled cell, like the click and drag you can do to rearrange clips in cells in Ableton.

    It actually would be a very cool and immediate way to rearrange things if you could just click and drag any clip to any other arbitrary cell location across all the tracks, or even to no track, having it in that instance to automatically create the track to contain itself (like if you drag a clip into the ‘empty space’ at the end of your tracks in Ableton).

    I have taken your tip, Frank, and made a ‘template’ scene to avoid having to do this every time. Thanks both for your help, and especially sinusoidal for such an impressively powerful app. Loving the generative & scaling features! (my two favourite things).

  • It's not entirely intuitive this part with the shift functions. Often happens to me when I double tap shift to add new tracks or scenes and then proceed to frantically double tap the empty clip to create a clip, only to réalisé, again I first have to exit the shift function to be able to create the clip. It works for me, but it's not easy for my brain to accept. It is a challenge to solve that ui wise I guess.
    Having lots of fun with LK regardless! For me it ties it all nicely together.

    When the Matrix module reaches near perfection, will the other modules get the same attention? Like the xy pad could do with two xy pads next to eachother :) And perhaps more banks as 4? Different midi channels for different cc's? Several layouts for the Controller like one with lots of faders, one with knobs etc. Perhaps an lfo module ? Lots of room for expanding on those modules in my honest opinion. I got the xequence aum pads and keys and the kb1, rozetta lfo, Midi lfo, lemur to control effects, channel muting, effect enable and modification but would love to use it all from within LK :)

  • edited November 2020

    Maybe separate the piano-roll from the clip launcher? Ableton 11 New ClipLauncher proves that these should be separate units.. Things like the ‘scene clip jump’ feature.. and probability in the piano-roll... well.

    11:45 into the video

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