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AddStation by Virsyn (released)

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  • Paulo164Paulo164

    @Pxlhg said:

    @Paulo164 said:

    @Pxlhg said:

    @Paulo164 said:

    @McD said:
    @Paulo164 I can't figure out how to import this Preset into AddStation? Does anyone have a clue?

    I downloaded your zip file and unpacked it with File App. Then I goe into the Keys Folder and click on the Harpsichord5.addstation file and AddStation starts. I also had an offer to
    "share" into AddStation but the new Harpsichord5 instrument never appears in any directory.

    The application manual doesn't have a search function and I didn't see any advice on importing presets. I can see how to save one but not import it.

    Just curious to play it and maybe share some but only if I can figure out this step.

    Aha... is there an application folder where I need to unpack the zip? Aha.

    That's it. There's an existing Export Folder in "On My iPad/AddStation" and I made an Import folder and moved the downloaded Zip file there and unzipped it. I moved to the folder with the preset and clicked it and this time it imported for me to try.

    Nice work.

    This app is a lot deeper than I thought it was... it has a lot in common with AudioLayer and some of the other @Virsyn apps.

    Can we import our own "audio blocks" to make new instruments? or just make instruments using the internal "blocks"? Probably the latter but I'd accept any clues.

    UPDATE: I poked around in the Block editor and I'm getting an idea what's up.
    You "draw" the audio harmonics, frequencies, etc. I need to see how some of the better sounding instruments are built and go from there. It's really easy to make some noisy/nasty stuff without learning a thing tho'.

    Thank you @McD for your feedback.
    Yes, I didn’t try to re-import the preset once exported. So I assumed it was easy, but not ! Sorry 😅
    Strange that presets are exported in ZIP format since it’s already lightweight...

    Regarding AddStation possibilities, yes it’s very deep, albeit hard to tackle. My only regret is that it’s not possible to edit more finely the partials values (magnitude, attack, decay, ...). I would like to be able to import « templates » created from an Excel file for instance.

    As for importing your own blocks, you can always copy/paste audio blocks from other presets to get started quicker with a new one.

    I have contacted VirSyn about file management and got reply (long ago) that they will fix it. An update came a few months back that fixed Template saving but did the file-management even harder as all of a sudden the 'move' option was gone and nothing else was fixed even though the update claimed so. Contacted them again and got an oops reply and again a promise that it will be fixed. That was three weeks ago so, one can only hope. :D I've added a new post with all my presets: 107 of them. Cheers!

    I just contacted them also to report 2 issues :
    1/ graphical EQ window appearing « randomly » with no way to close it on my iPhone XS (except in AUv3 mode)
    2/ random dice not working properly in the « decay » tab, for small values of « extent » parameter.

    Yeah, I think I've seen that EQ thingy hang on some occasion. Not sure how to recreate it. The dice I never use, not in any app. Nothing wrong with it, it's just not for me because I like to kinda know what's happening, as much as I can anyway. :)
    I hope you mentioned the preset import/export issues? The more people reporting the same issue the more likely they fix it.

    Yeah, I use the dice because this allows me to (randomly) edit the high harmonic values. Otherwise, with only my big finger on my tiny screen, I can’t plot any varied content in the high frequencies and all looks and sounds a bit similar. At least that’s what I think...
    As for the import/export bug, I don’t have used the import yet. So I can’t report anything for the moment. But I will do as soon as I try to import your presets and find something.

  • PxlhgPxlhg

    @Paulo164 said:

    @Pxlhg said:

    @Paulo164 said:

    @Pxlhg said:

    @Paulo164 said:

    @McD said:
    @Paulo164 I can't figure out how to import this Preset into AddStation? Does anyone have a clue?

    I downloaded your zip file and unpacked it with File App. Then I goe into the Keys Folder and click on the Harpsichord5.addstation file and AddStation starts. I also had an offer to
    "share" into AddStation but the new Harpsichord5 instrument never appears in any directory.

    The application manual doesn't have a search function and I didn't see any advice on importing presets. I can see how to save one but not import it.

    Just curious to play it and maybe share some but only if I can figure out this step.

    Aha... is there an application folder where I need to unpack the zip? Aha.

    That's it. There's an existing Export Folder in "On My iPad/AddStation" and I made an Import folder and moved the downloaded Zip file there and unzipped it. I moved to the folder with the preset and clicked it and this time it imported for me to try.

    Nice work.

    This app is a lot deeper than I thought it was... it has a lot in common with AudioLayer and some of the other @Virsyn apps.

    Can we import our own "audio blocks" to make new instruments? or just make instruments using the internal "blocks"? Probably the latter but I'd accept any clues.

    UPDATE: I poked around in the Block editor and I'm getting an idea what's up.
    You "draw" the audio harmonics, frequencies, etc. I need to see how some of the better sounding instruments are built and go from there. It's really easy to make some noisy/nasty stuff without learning a thing tho'.

    Thank you @McD for your feedback.
    Yes, I didn’t try to re-import the preset once exported. So I assumed it was easy, but not ! Sorry 😅
    Strange that presets are exported in ZIP format since it’s already lightweight...

    Regarding AddStation possibilities, yes it’s very deep, albeit hard to tackle. My only regret is that it’s not possible to edit more finely the partials values (magnitude, attack, decay, ...). I would like to be able to import « templates » created from an Excel file for instance.

    As for importing your own blocks, you can always copy/paste audio blocks from other presets to get started quicker with a new one.

    I have contacted VirSyn about file management and got reply (long ago) that they will fix it. An update came a few months back that fixed Template saving but did the file-management even harder as all of a sudden the 'move' option was gone and nothing else was fixed even though the update claimed so. Contacted them again and got an oops reply and again a promise that it will be fixed. That was three weeks ago so, one can only hope. :D I've added a new post with all my presets: 107 of them. Cheers!

    I just contacted them also to report 2 issues :
    1/ graphical EQ window appearing « randomly » with no way to close it on my iPhone XS (except in AUv3 mode)
    2/ random dice not working properly in the « decay » tab, for small values of « extent » parameter.

    Yeah, I think I've seen that EQ thingy hang on some occasion. Not sure how to recreate it. The dice I never use, not in any app. Nothing wrong with it, it's just not for me because I like to kinda know what's happening, as much as I can anyway. :)
    I hope you mentioned the preset import/export issues? The more people reporting the same issue the more likely they fix it.

    Yeah, I use the dice because this allows me to (randomly) edit the high harmonic values. Otherwise, with only my big finger on my tiny screen, I can’t plot any varied content in the high frequencies and all looks and sounds a bit similar. At least that’s what I think...
    As for the import/export bug, I don’t have used the import yet. So I can’t report anything for the moment. But I will do as soon as I try to import your presets and find something.

    Well you could just export a folder with your presets a see what happens (it doesn't work) and report that, that would really be awesome and helpful for all. About the random: sorry if I sounded a bit pretentious I did not mean it like that. I use an iPad and a pen to draw in the graphs in AddStation so there's a big difference as I understand you use phone. Cheers mate! :)

  • Paulo164Paulo164

    No, no problem with the random dice !
    I didn’t feel like you were pretentious 😅

    As for the export, I am not sure to understand : when I export a preset, it works. Do you mean it doesn’t work when exporting a full folder (like « Keys ») ?

  • espiegel123espiegel123

    @Paulo164 said:
    No, no problem with the random dice !
    I didn’t feel like you were pretentious 😅

    As for the export, I am not sure to understand : when I export a preset, it works. Do you mean it doesn’t work when exporting a full folder (like « Keys ») ?

    Yes. It isn't currently possible to export a folder. If you tap the option to create a zip for a folder of presets, you get an invalid zip file called something like /templates.addstation.zip

  • Paulo164Paulo164

    @espiegel123 said:

    @Paulo164 said:
    No, no problem with the random dice !
    I didn’t feel like you were pretentious 😅

    As for the export, I am not sure to understand : when I export a preset, it works. Do you mean it doesn’t work when exporting a full folder (like « Keys ») ?

    Yes. It isn't currently possible to export a folder. If you tap the option to create a zip for a folder of presets, you get an invalid zip file called something like /templates.addstation.zip

    Yes, ok. Indeed.

  • gregsmithgregsmith

    I’m probably being incredibly stupid but I can’t get the filter mod envelope to do anything on this synth. I’ve even tried their own ‘delayed filter’ preset and it sounds exactly the same with filter mod envelope on or off.

    Am I doing something silly?

  • PhilWPhilW

    @gregsmith said:
    I’m probably being incredibly stupid but I can’t get the filter mod envelope to do anything on this synth. I’ve even tried their own ‘delayed filter’ preset and it sounds exactly the same with filter mod envelope on or off.

    Am I doing something silly?

    On the delayed filter preset, the filter envelopes are controlled by the mod wheel, so if you are playing on screen and not pushing your finger up pretty quickly, you will miss the effect.

    The filter mod moves the filter shape that you have drawn up and down. You therefore need a definite filter shape for it to work on, if the filter shape is just flat you won’t hear any difference.

  • gregsmithgregsmith

    @PhilW said:

    @gregsmith said:
    I’m probably being incredibly stupid but I can’t get the filter mod envelope to do anything on this synth. I’ve even tried their own ‘delayed filter’ preset and it sounds exactly the same with filter mod envelope on or off.

    Am I doing something silly?

    On the delayed filter preset, the filter envelopes are controlled by the mod wheel, so if you are playing on screen and not pushing your finger up pretty quickly, you will miss the effect.

    The filter mod moves the filter shape that you have drawn up and down. You therefore need a definite filter shape for it to work on, if the filter shape is just flat you won’t hear any difference.

    Gotcha, thanks. I played with the mono bass patch where the filter envelope works. It doesn’t seem to work on other ones I try though. There must be a setting I’m missing. Lots of synths have a knob to control how influential the envelope is on the filter but think I’m missing that on addstation

  • PhilWPhilW

    @gregsmith said:

    @PhilW said:

    @gregsmith said:
    I’m probably being incredibly stupid but I can’t get the filter mod envelope to do anything on this synth. I’ve even tried their own ‘delayed filter’ preset and it sounds exactly the same with filter mod envelope on or off.

    Am I doing something silly?

    On the delayed filter preset, the filter envelopes are controlled by the mod wheel, so if you are playing on screen and not pushing your finger up pretty quickly, you will miss the effect.

    The filter mod moves the filter shape that you have drawn up and down. You therefore need a definite filter shape for it to work on, if the filter shape is just flat you won’t hear any difference.

    Gotcha, thanks. I played with the mono bass patch where the filter envelope works. It doesn’t seem to work on other ones I try though. There must be a setting I’m missing. Lots of synths have a knob to control how influential the envelope is on the filter but think I’m missing that on addstation

    Filter Mod page - there is a box labelled Mod with a percentage figure in it under the envelope on the right (not the one under the lfo, the two sections are not well separated).

  • gregsmithgregsmith

    @PhilW said:

    @gregsmith said:

    @PhilW said:

    @gregsmith said:
    I’m probably being incredibly stupid but I can’t get the filter mod envelope to do anything on this synth. I’ve even tried their own ‘delayed filter’ preset and it sounds exactly the same with filter mod envelope on or off.

    Am I doing something silly?

    On the delayed filter preset, the filter envelopes are controlled by the mod wheel, so if you are playing on screen and not pushing your finger up pretty quickly, you will miss the effect.

    The filter mod moves the filter shape that you have drawn up and down. You therefore need a definite filter shape for it to work on, if the filter shape is just flat you won’t hear any difference.

    Gotcha, thanks. I played with the mono bass patch where the filter envelope works. It doesn’t seem to work on other ones I try though. There must be a setting I’m missing. Lots of synths have a knob to control how influential the envelope is on the filter but think I’m missing that on addstation

    Filter Mod page - there is a box labelled Mod with a percentage figure in it under the envelope on the right (not the one under the lfo, the two sections are not well separated).

    Of course! Thanks

    My head just figured that was for the mod wheel effectiveness

  • PxlhgPxlhg

    I just want to point this out because I completely missed it myself, till now: all template buttons now work and there are some ready presets for e.g Harmonics, Pan, Attack, Noise and so on. Even noticed a few with the Pxlhg prefix :D :D . Great feature when building your own sounds and you can easily build up your own stock of maps. There's also templates for blocks so one don't have to copy between documents which at least I used to do. Not for parts though, guess those might be a bit too complex, maybe. :)

    Maybe should have said it in a separate new thread but, I don't know. What do you think?

  • gregsmithgregsmith

    @Pxlhg said:
    I just want to point this out because I completely missed it myself, till now: all template buttons now work and there are some ready presets for e.g Harmonics, Pan, Attack, Noise and so on. Even noticed a few with the Pxlhg prefix :D :D . Great feature when building your own sounds and you can easily build up your own stock of maps. There's also templates for blocks so one don't have to copy between documents which at least I used to do. Not for parts though, guess those might be a bit too complex, maybe. :)

    Maybe should have said it in a separate new thread but, I don't know. What do you think?

    Nice. So all the template bits aren’t empty anymore?

  • PxlhgPxlhg

    @gregsmith said:

    @Pxlhg said:
    I just want to point this out because I completely missed it myself, till now: all template buttons now work and there are some ready presets for e.g Harmonics, Pan, Attack, Noise and so on. Even noticed a few with the Pxlhg prefix :D :D . Great feature when building your own sounds and you can easily build up your own stock of maps. There's also templates for blocks so one don't have to copy between documents which at least I used to do. Not for parts though, guess those might be a bit too complex, maybe. :)

    Maybe should have said it in a separate new thread but, I don't know. What do you think?

    Nice. So all the template bits aren’t empty anymore?

    Exactly :D

  • craftycuratecraftycurate

    @VirSyn Thanks for the patch crash fix. To confirm I’ve had no more crashes with the same patch.

  • Paulo164Paulo164

    Hi,
    You will find below some acoustic presets : 2 church organs and my attempt to recreate an electric piano. Feel free to give some feedback on how to improve this one.

  • PxlhgPxlhg

    @Paulo164 said:
    Hi,
    You will find below some acoustic presets : 2 church organs and my attempt to recreate an electric piano. Feel free to give some feedback on how to improve this one.

    Tried out Church Organ 2 and it's very nice. Clean and massive and the same time. Great job and thanks :)

  • Paulo164Paulo164

    @Paulo164 said:
    Hi,
    You will find below some acoustic presets : 2 church organs and my attempt to recreate an electric piano. Feel free to give some feedback on how to improve this one.

    Thanks ! Yes, that was the kind of church organ sound I was looking for 😊.
    I will also create a more subtle, intimate organ, the kind of generally used to “fill in” a break during a church office.

  • NeuMNeuM

    Although it remains one of my go-to synths because of its sheer breadth of sound options, I feel there’s room for improvement in the waveform editing area. Being able to apply a template “shape” instead of wildly and poorly sketching a waveform onscreen might help accelerate creating usable sounds. I have nothing but respect for those who’ve gone deep into the weeds to engineer their own patches, because it is a laborious endeavor.

  • monch1962monch1962

    @VirSyn any update on MPE availability for AddStation?

  • KashiKashi

    Anyone know if it’s possible to disable the “pitch bend” effect, when you play a key and then move your finger up or down? @Pxlhg ? @VirSyn ? Cheers!

  • VirSynVirSyn

    Just tap on "Quantize":

  • Montreal_MusicMontreal_Music

    This synth is the closest thing to Razor on iOS I guess?

  • GavinskiGavinski

    I want to 'play' some of the harmonics in addstation live but I find it very hard to grab them with accuracy. Has anyone checked whether this works better with a pencil?

  • KashiKashi

    @VirSyn said:
    Just tap on "Quantize":

    Cool, thanks
    Sorry for delayed response ( a year and a month....!)

  • Paulo164Paulo164

    I jump on this thread to say again how great AddStation is. It’s super powerful for sounds like organs or long evolving pads. It sounds super rich with full stereo imaging.
    Cheers.

  • GavinskiGavinski

    @Paulo164 said:
    I jump on this thread to say again how great AddStation is. It’s super powerful for sounds like organs or long evolving pads. It sounds super rich with full stereo imaging.
    Cheers.

    Definitely.

  • frosttrance_7frosttrance_7

    @Montreal_Music said:
    This synth is the closest thing to Razor on iOS I guess?

    And Harmor

  • VirSynVirSyn

    Drone made with a couple of manually tuned and levelled sine tones + noise in AddStation inspired by Eliane Radigue. (Thanks @Gavinski to get Eliane to my attention)

  • GavinskiGavinski

    @VirSyn said:
    Drone made with a couple of manually tuned and levelled sine tones + noise in AddStation inspired by Eliane Radigue. (Thanks @Gavinski to get Eliane to my attention)

    Nice! This is exactly why I would love to get a bit more control over individual harmonics, so I can use AddStation to do these kind of drones. With detailed control over the harmonics, without needing a pencil, it is perfect as a drone machine.

  • KashiKashi

    @Gavinski said:

    @VirSyn said:
    Drone made with a couple of manually tuned and levelled sine tones + noise in AddStation inspired by Eliane Radigue. (Thanks @Gavinski to get Eliane to my attention)

    Nice! This is exactly why I would love to get a bit more control over individual harmonics, so I can use AddStation to do these kind of drones. With detailed control over the harmonics, without needing a pencil, it is perfect as a drone machine.

    +1

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