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FWIW, I can't repro. After editing name, I press Save to save. I verified that the preset is saved and can be recalled.
I'm not concerned with how it impacts me or if the price is 'worth' what your getting. I think it is worth it. It just seems shady to advertise one thing and then raise the final price without mentioning it. A conversation had to occur at IK and the result was to go in and change the wording in the sale from 'Special Introductory pricing. Save 33%' to '50%'. And hope no one notices.
You not the only person that has expressed this view. If you ever had to pay your bills by
understanding how price impacts profit you'd be more understanding. There might be a small impact on IK's brand but they get crapped on consistently here so that's not going to
stop them from re-adjusting the products price based on sales forecasts.
It's not personal... it's business. The revenue they generate from the app (which you can steal from them at $40 and laugh at their greed) will likely prevent someone from being laid off in this impending global recession. They are an Italian company and I have no idea if they are getting financial support from their government in these tough times.
But this app is a success on all fronts and a gift to IOS music makers at this price. It's comparable to the Fab Filter bundle (not in strict functionality) which sells for well over $100.
Of course, there are ToneBoosters alternatives to save that expense and iFX Rack covers most of the same functionality that MixBox CS does so plan accordingly.
Developers and Corporations adjust app prices all the time. Consider @virsyn AudioLayer.
I got it for $8 I think. Ravenscroft 275 jumps between $36 and $18 like clock work. LumBeats
discounts 1 or 2 apps every Black Friday. Pricing is tricky. If an app is really great it can be sold at a price that gets as many potential customers as possible. @brambos apps are typically must have buys and roll out below $10. If they didn't have such support they might be priced in the teens or higher to reach break even faster.
Anyway, it's hardly unethical to announce a price increase before changing the price.
Act accordingly. This one for me is a must have. I'll use it a lot and find out overtime where
I still need all my other FX apps. I like pulling together a custom rack/channel strip in one window. Time is money for me... this $40 will save me a lot of time.
Sorry about any confusion with that adjustment but the intro pricing will remain so that you can still get this great deal on MixBox for iPad and we didn't want to make any adjustments after the intro pricing was over and give people time to get this great app for a steal as long as possible.
Right. You get what you pay for. If people complain about paying $40 then all we are ever going to get for the iPad is $40 dollar apps. And THAT has been the problem to date. Eventide broke from this trend, but the vase majority are dumbed down desktop apps.
No one is going to spend more on development then they can get back, obviously. Hopefully with the new Apple silicone some of the problem will get sorted out. They will ned to charge more for universal apps, and if the iPad people can't afford it, they still have the entire Mac base to profit from.
Extreme Analogy... hey, if I get Covid I’ll take the heat... that might be ok for you but what about the health care workers who have to take care of you?... so, I want my apps for next to nothing, who cares what the consequences are for others?
btw, loving this rack. Thanks @ikmultimedia. I dissed you on Sampletank, but you’ve more than made up for it with Syntronik and Mixbox.
I went for MixBox - and yes, it’s true - the EQs and compressors are very nice sounding and give a specific touch and a good warmth to the material ... I also do like the ability to create chains of effects and save them - that’s an advantage ...
BUT - and there is most always a but -
my ears do have a concern with the filters ...
While I can accept that you can not tweak most of the effects inside of MixBox without getting artifacts (I guess it’s based on the same symptom as the glitches while switching presets as @Gavinski explained to us) - I can not really accept the “ringing noises” I get as soon as I change the filter frequency with a kind of higher rate ...
I mean - yes, the eq, the reverb - most of these effects settings get adjusted before the recording happens - so I don’t mind having artifacts there -
But the filter frequency should be capable of being automated or moved quickly - during the recording - without creating any unintended artifacts ..,
@ikmultimedia So I wonder - is this noise behind the sound which I am hearing in this example intended? A bug? Or a problem of Mixbus as it is constructed under the hood?
In the example I recorded a video using AUM internal LowCut filter - next to the LC filter inside of Mixbus - vs. JAX Filter M1 And the RRS Polyvoks Filter
The latest two are the cleanest, in my opinion - in AUM I get some kind of artifacts and in MixBox I get the biggest irritation - this - for my ears at least - very annoying “ringing” sound - behind the actual filtered sound ... and it’s really not clear for me if this should be like that or not ...
am curious what your ears are saying? (headphones suggested) )))
Filtertest:
https://streamable.com/oa77ky
@ikmultimedia
Also I am not sure about the Preamp and The Convoreverb -
I remember a desktop version video where the type-selection window was a pop-up window -
On my iPad there is no pop-up (which would be great and handy) and the swipe-up and down selection is very quircky and not very smooth - and often doesn’t react to my swipes - so I can’t really make a precise selection -
And the Gain-knob in the pre-amp doesn’t move at all ...
@Bon_Tempi , the pop-up window pops up in standalone mode only. It must be a bug. I hope @ikmultimedia fixes it soon.
@Bon_Tempi ..... I just gave a listen on my 770 pro’s... I am sorry I am not hearing what you describe. But maybe my ears are shot.
The filters should work like they do in Syntronik and sound as good. I would recommend reporting any issues you have to the support team so they can assess and if there's a global bug found they'll have the devs fix it after they recreate it.
Yes, sorry the dropdown issue has been reported and is being addressed and the gain knob being greyed out is due to the chosen preamp not having that adjustment.
You mean the filters inside the individual synthesizer of Syntronik or the filters inside the effect rack of Syntronik?
Ok, thanks - this makes sense - but I can’t confirm that it’s “greyed out” - it just doesn’t respond - maybe greying it out would be a good idea ...
Ok - thanks - I tried as suggested - O-Filter in Syntronik vs O-Filter in MixBox -
Tried to find a somehow comparable sound as a source ... and used the HPF this time -
For my ears - the HPF makes the “ringing” noise even more audible - and I would also say that I hear a difference between the two filters -
Or am my ears getting over-focused in the research of this?
https://streamable.com/pr59ty
@ikmultimedia - so do I need to sent those two videos to your support team or is it enough to sent them a link to this forum page?
@Bon_Tempi Honestly it's easier to just send the link to the thread. Best to link to the specific page/post as this thread is quite active though.
Ok, cool - I will - thanks ,,
@Bon_Tempi the ringing sound you're hearing is audible aliasing. It's not too bad on the compressors, or even the saturation modules, but on the filters it's a real problem, especially when they are open:
@ikmultimedia the solution for this issue would be to have an optional oversampling mode for those times when this aliasing is audible.
@ikmultimedia
Any plans on making this universal (iPhone/iPad)? The UI would fit the iPhone just fine and, it would be so great if you could start something on the iPhone that uses MixBus, then continue on the iPad, or vice versa.
That would make me cave instantly
Can someone explain what these do?. I can’t tell if it’s higher or lower Q...
For the Low/High bands it will switch between shelf (default/disengaged) and bell curve.
For the two bands in the middle it will switch between lower Q (default/disengaged) and higher Q.
Thanks!. Was it obvious?.
Got another one!. This one’s easy . The 1176 comp has the attack and release settings the wrong way around, in MixBox too... right?. Clockwise faster, counterclockwise slower... yes?. The 1176 is so fast I have a hard time letting my ears judge. It’s the Fernando Alonso of compressors. Yes, Fernando is the fastest.
Correct.
If you max out input and then listen/compare:
Dear Richard - thanks for this insight and explanation - very helpful and with great knowledgement
I am glad that somebody was abled to confirm - what my ears were hearing - and what my mind couldn’t put into a category -
I was really unsure if this was an intended sound As part of the emulation or an unwanted one ...
@ikmultimedia hopefully there can be found a solution for this - cause otherwise it would be a sad limitation for this otherwise truly great sounding app and its filters ...
@ikmultimedia any news on adding pre/post eq to compressor switch in the Channel Strip?
Can anyone tell which is the current default? Pre or post? Maybe turning the channel strip compression
off and then placing a Compressor Module before or after will help determine the answer.
Maybe they can add the button to this module. It never hurts to ask... it just hurts to wait in silence.
So does changing the order of FX change the result? If so, a brief explanation, please!