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MixBox CS by IK Multimedia

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  • @tahiche said:

    Fell for it too. Wimpy, lame and poor.
    You know what?. I can’t tell the difference between an 1176 and a 670. Never could, although sometimes I think I can. It depends on the source material, which means I really can’t...
    It’s like premium gins. You pay the extra, it tastes lovely, but on a blind test you’d have your doubts.
    With these emulations, compressors, eqs, channel strips and so it’s more about how they add up little by little and it becomes noticeable at the end. Again, I’m on 8€ earbuds. Like premium gin with stale gasless tonic.
    Nonetheless I like this MixBox stuff.

    Spend some time working each of the 1176 and 670, you’ll start to hear the difference. 1176 can act really quickly and be very aggressive, even on the slowest attack setting. And it maintains its ratio fairly consistently. The 670 would be a vari-mu design, so the ratio changes depending on how much it is compressing (it’s constantly varying), and it can have a much slower attack and release.

    With any compressor, there are tonal changes and there are the effects that compression is causing, so learning those helps you choose what to use in a given situation. And you are right, effects are generally subtle (although you can certainly push many compressors to be not subtle) and accumulate with tracks summing together. Compression is certainly not needed on everything either, so knowing why you want to use it is really important.

    I know you said you’re on inexpensive headphones, but something that has really helped me over the past year is deciding to listen carefully to only certain parts of a sound when trying to hear what new things are doing. For example, focusing on the low end, or high end, or attack, or the balance with another sound, something like that. After a while, you do start to hear what things are doing and then you can’t “unhear” it. And you can do that, at least to some degree, on any listening system.

    One last thought, Presets for compression and eq are not really helpful when you’re actually doing a mix, because the effect is so dependent on the sound that is going in, but certainly trying different presets and working to understand what each is doing to your sound, especially the presets you love and the presets you hate, can be a really great way to learn. Then you start to build up a library of techniques that let you get the results you want.

  • Can we get an option to change the order in which the effects are placed? Say I put a compressor on 1 but now would prefer it on 5, is that possible? @ikmultimedia

  • edited December 2020

    @YZJustDatGuy said:
    Can we get an option to change the order in which the effects are placed? Say I put a compressor on 1 but now would prefer it on 5, is that possible? @ikmultimedia

    Yes. It’s one of the selling points

  • @YZJustDatGuy said:
    Can we get an option to change the order in which the effects are placed? Say I put a compressor on 1 but now would prefer it on 5, is that possible? @ikmultimedia

    Long press on it and move. 👍🏻

  • It is very attractive from a UI perspective, but you know that the sushi you get à la carte is always more interesting than what comes with the “chef’s special“?

    Still, it’s nice to see IK Multimedia with such a nice rollout.

  • @onerez said:

    @YZJustDatGuy said:
    Can we get an option to change the order in which the effects are placed? Say I put a compressor on 1 but now would prefer it on 5, is that possible? @ikmultimedia

    Long press on it and move. 👍🏻

    Wooooooow I tried this but I guess I didn't hold long enough. Thank you!

  • @White said:
    https://apps.apple.com/app/id1530701566

    Description:

    Limitless sonic options, now for iPad

    MixBox CS packs 70 award-winning mixing processors and creative effects into a convenient 500-series style iPad app.

    Create, compare and save your own custom channel strips or multiFX chains, or choose from over 600 presets to give your creativity a kickstart. Whether in your favorite host app or stand-alone, MixBox CS combines a massive range of effects and powerful workflow to supercharge your mixes.

    Every processor offers immaculate sound, from powerful digital effects to warm, authentic physical models of classic analog gear. Divided into Amps, Channel Strips, Delays, Distortions, Dynamics, EQ, Filters, Modulations, Reverbs and Saturations, it’s easy to find just what you need. Derived from IK’s award-winning T-RackS, AmpliTube and SampleTank products, they offer the same professional sound quality in a convenient, portable app.

    All 70 processors can be inserted anywhere in the chain and are easily interchangeable. Each one comes with helpful controls and features for better mixing, production, and sound design.

    MixBox is AUv3 compliant to work seamlessly with other music production and recording apps. It offers a freely configurable rack with slots for up to 8 processors, plus independent gain and mix controls, plus a sidechain control for dynamics processing.

    Standalone, MixBox is perfect for live mixing, allowing you to set up to 8 separate racks, each with up to 8 processors. Combine and assign these to your audio device’s inputs/outputs, adjust each one’s gain and level, and you’ll have a massive digital FX rack with up to 64 simultaneous FX. It includes a selection of built-in audio demos to use as reference tracks to audition any of the modules and presets.

    To get you going quickly, MixBox CS offers a comprehensive library of more than 600 presets covering everything from live mixing to sound design, for both individual processors and whole chains. You can also create and save your own presets for each individual module, the full rack, and even the whole app’s global state as a song.

    With MixBox, you can enjoy supercharges mixes and FX, wherever you are.

    Features

    • Create your own custom channel strips
    • 70 FX from T-RackS, AmpliTube & SampleTank
    • Dynamics, EQs, Filters, Modulation, Channel Strips, Saturation, Reverbs, Delays, Distortion and Amps
    • 4 all-new algorithms for hall, room, plate and inverse reverbs
    • Chain up to 8 processors in a single instance
    • Lightning-fast workflow with all controls at your fingertips
    • Save and recall entire chains, instantly
    • Over 600 presets for every situation, including single processor and whole-chain presets
    • Stand-alone hosts up to 8 full racks for live mixing
    • Audio Player module for importing and playing back audio files
    • AUv3 plug-in support

    Details:
    Universal: No
    Minimum OS version: 12.0
    Rated: 0 based on 0 votes

    Looks good but for that kind of money I'll stick NuRack and FabFilter Saturn plus Nembrini amps

  • edited December 2020

    @ikmultimedia
    Any plans to port over your tape emulations ?
    T-RackS Tape Machine Collection

  • Have anyone tried MixBox on acoustic instruments?

  • Would there be any technical reason why this can’t have its own internal lfos that could be assigned via midi learn and saved as part of a preset? Would seem to be such an obviously helpful feature. Imagine being able to open a few lfo modules as part of any rack. Of course you can use external lfos but being able to save this internally as part of a preset would be hugely time saving. Also, if it had midi learn for those it would save all the faffing about with parameters in AUM.

  • Nice run through of the processors here. Click the images for more info: https://www.ikmultimedia.com/products/mixbox/index.php?p=fx

  • I’ve been screaming for Slate Digital to go iOS so this was an instabuy.

    From very early playing around, the modulation effects sound sooooo good. I really like the Tape echo and the Neve EQ too.

    I have a lot of these effects or equivalent, but the lunchbox style is so much faster and intuitive. I like to mix and add creative effects as I make write, so being able to quickly experiment is a priority. So far I’m very happy. The UI is nice too, feels like I’m actually tweaking “knobs” and using my ears more.

  • @joniqwest said:
    @ikmultimedia
    Any plans to port over your tape emulations ?
    T-RackS Tape Machine Collection

    Whew, those are processor intensive, big time. They choke my 2012 mbp pretty quickly. When I use them, I had to print them almost right away. They do sound fantastic though.

    I just got the uad studer and ampex tape machines so they can use the Apollo’s processing. On every mix now, I put kazrog true iron and the studer on every track and just bounce them before I do anymore steps. Those two together really bring a “3D” element to the sound.

  • edited December 2020

    Yes but I have a 2018 iPad Pro so I am hoping if they do release the Tape collection my tablet should be able to handle it fairly easily. The IK Tapes sound amazing !

    OT: How do you find they compare to the UAD tapes also how is your 2012 with running UAD ? ( not the software but any noticeable system usage with the UAD drivers on an older machine ( I have a 2012 MacBook pro as well)

    @mrufino1 said:

    @joniqwest said:
    @ikmultimedia
    Any plans to port over your tape emulations ?
    T-RackS Tape Machine Collection

    Whew, those are processor intensive, big time. They choke my 2012 mbp pretty quickly. When I use them, I had to print them almost right away. They do sound fantastic though.

    I just got the uad studer and ampex tape machines so they can use the Apollo’s processing. On every mix now, I put kazrog true iron and the studer on every track and just bounce them before I do anymore steps. Those two together really bring a “3D” element to the sound.

  • @joniqwest said:
    Yes but I have a 2018 iPad Pro so I am hoping if they do release the Tape collection my tablet should be able to handle it fairly easily. The IK Tapes sound amazing !

    OT: How do you find they compare to the UAD tapes also how is your 2012 with running UAD ? ( not the software but any noticeable system usage with the UAD drivers on an older machine ( I have a 2012 MacBook pro as well)

    @mrufino1 said:

    @joniqwest said:
    @ikmultimedia
    Any plans to port over your tape emulations ?
    T-RackS Tape Machine Collection

    Whew, those are processor intensive, big time. They choke my 2012 mbp pretty quickly. When I use them, I had to print them almost right away. They do sound fantastic though.

    I just got the uad studer and ampex tape machines so they can use the Apollo’s processing. On every mix now, I put kazrog true iron and the studer on every track and just bounce them before I do anymore steps. Those two together really bring a “3D” element to the sound.

    No issues with running the uad, it all runs really smoothly! I don’t use synths or things like that much though, almost all live instruments. I have 2 ssd’s in my mbp so it runs pretty fast. I have the Apollo x8, so it has 6 sharc chips, which does a good job taking the load off.

    The IK tapes and the uad tapes both sound great. I’ve only had the uad tape stuff since last wed (studer) and Monday (ampex), so I don’t have too detailed a comparison. First impression with the uad studer vs the IK studer is that the IK studer is more “obvious” if that makes sense. I know IK uses convolution and some other processes with their tapes and uad is al modeling I believe, so it’s lighter on resources, and of course not running on my MacBook processor at all.

    I also have my 2011 Mac mini hooked up by network running audiogridder, which is a plugin server, so I use the mini as more external processing, and In got studiomux working as well but never remember to hook it up!

    You’re right though, the iPad Pro will probably handle them well. I have a 2018 standard iPad and it does everything I need, but It’s an auxiliary for music for me, not the main hub.

  • @mrufino1

    I am wondering if I should buy into the UAD system instead of upgrading my laptop. The new M1 MacBooks are getting amazing reviews but not sure how long it will be for wide scale compatibility with most music software. I am currently using iPad as main music machine and really loving it so far.

    Thanks for replying !

  • @ikmultimedia thanks for this, it's great collection :heart: :heart:

  • @Gavinski said:

    @TimRussell said:
    Wow this looks pretty awesome.
    I probably won’t need to buy any FX AUs ever again if I get this.

    'need' is a very relative term lol 😂

    At this point I can just take refuge in the fact that eventually apps will be too advanced for my 2018 ipad and me too stubborn to buy a new one without a headphone jack, and finally I'll have all the AU's I'll ever need to buy. The day will come!

  • Anyone figure out how to sidechain this in aum? I have loaded 2 instances of acoustic drum bus (one as multi bus obviously) and loaded the acoustic drum bus preset that @sam23 showed as having sidechain in standalone. But no sign of any sidechain switch etc.

  • Did actually find the sidechain (u have to press the eq at the bottom right) but still didn't get it working properly (usually I know how to set up sidechaining in aum)

  • @Gavinski said:
    Did actually find the sidechain (u have to press the eq at the bottom right) but still didn't get it working properly (usually I know how to set up sidechaining in aum)

    Quick demo with kick ducking a ‘pad’

  • @0tolerance4silence said:

    @Gavinski said:
    Did actually find the sidechain (u have to press the eq at the bottom right) but still didn't get it working properly (usually I know how to set up sidechaining in aum)

    Quick demo with kick ducking a ‘pad’

    Thanks for the duck, Doc !

  • edited December 2020

    @0tolerance4silence said:

    @Gavinski said:
    Did actually find the sidechain (u have to press the eq at the bottom right) but still didn't get it working properly (usually I know how to set up sidechaining in aum)

    Quick demo with kick ducking a ‘pad’

    Thanks for the video, It’s really helpful!. The way it works is simple but a bit confusing.
    If I understand correctly, as multi, there’s only 2 inputs. The regular one (1) is used by the instance of the plugin that’s processing the signal and the second one (2) is what you select under “multi out”, that’s only for sidechain. It doesn’t process audio. And that channel can only be used by one track. So there’s no need to configure or Route the sidechain source, which is what I was expecting and found confusing. I don’t know if this the regular workflow for sidechaining in AUM. Is it?

    Anything you send to multi is directed to an “exclusive” sidechain, sort of like you’d do with a bus. So if you want to send more than one track to the “sidechain bus” you treat exactly like that, like a bus, in this manner.

  • @0tolerance4silence said:

    @Gavinski said:
    Did actually find the sidechain (u have to press the eq at the bottom right) but still didn't get it working properly (usually I know how to set up sidechaining in aum)

    Quick demo with kick ducking a ‘pad’

    Thanks bro, I'm struggling to see what I missed, I'll have to take another look 😂

  • @Gavinski said:
    Would there be any technical reason why this can’t have its own internal lfos that could be assigned via midi learn and saved as part of a preset? Would seem to be such an obviously helpful feature. Imagine being able to open a few lfo modules as part of any rack. Of course you can use external lfos but being able to save this internally as part of a preset would be hugely time saving. Also, if it had midi learn for those it would save all the faffing about with parameters in AUM.

    Completely agree with this!

  • I know now what I missed - I think I loaded the regular instance and multi out in the wrong slots, yeah, I think normally that doesn't matter does it? Unless I've always just got lucky each time I did it before

  • @tahiche said:

    @0tolerance4silence said:

    @Gavinski said:
    Did actually find the sidechain (u have to press the eq at the bottom right) but still didn't get it working properly (usually I know how to set up sidechaining in aum)

    Quick demo with kick ducking a ‘pad’

    Thanks for the video, It’s really helpful!. The way it works is simple but a bit confusing.
    If I understand correctly, as multi, there’s only 2 inputs. The regular one (1) is used by the instance of the plugin that’s processing the signal and the second one (2) is what you select under “multi out”, that’s only for sidechain. It doesn’t process audio. And that channel can only be used by one track. So there’s no need to configure or Route the sidechain source, which is what I was expecting and found confusing. I don’t know if this the regular workflow for sidechaining in AUM. Is it?

    Anything you send to multi is directed to an “exclusive” sidechain, sort of like you’d do with a bus. So if you want to send more than one track to the “sidechain bus” you treat exactly like that, like a bus, in this manner.

    Yes, on top of the regular audio in, there is only one additional input for side chaining. You can group sources to feed that input, all standard AUM stuff.
    Since only few modules - where it makes sense - have side chain input, you have to enable it. You can have more than one fx in the chain with SCH enabled, to distribute the side chain source to multiple destinations in the chain.

  • @Gavinski said:
    I know now what I missed - I think I loaded the regular instance and multi out in the wrong slots, yeah, I think normally that doesn't matter does it? Unless I've always just got lucky each time I did it before

    It does matter. One is the side chain signal source (f.e kick - what you’re sending), second is the destination (f.e pad - where you’re sending it to)

  • I just overlook it, or is there really no noise gate/supressor-as a Stratocaster player this would not be a disadvantage-otherwise hammer software

  • @ikmultimedia

    Glad to see these included - MixBox can’t be midi destination unless listed as such (dedicated instance with midi in)

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