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Going on. Bandwith.
I mean add volca drum to other zoom as it will provide midi out.
No worries.
What best suits you for your workflow.
Awesome.
Good move.
Add to your workflow.
Familiar is better than flying blind.
You will know within a week or so.
Good price.
I swear I’m the only person who would never recommend an iconnect4+ (Or any of their devices)
I’ve had nothing but nightmare experiences with them.
My last 4+ is currently relegated to a permanent door stop.
Word to the eBay buyers. Verify they come with the inline cable. A lot of people sell that separate because the cable alone can fetch 100$ (it’s what I did).
Im was also nervous that apple was 1 update away from making the device useless so I started building around more devices not dependent that it works with certain versions of iOS.
Not good mate. I was dubious about iconnect obviously. Hope system is fixed.
Thanks man.
A question regarding the midi din from zoom to zoom. I guess this might be to provide better sync for apps across devices maybe? Shoom on ipad and main session on other ipad.
But need abe link also on all devics. I usually use link to midi app for volca drum.
Volca drum will be on shoom ipad with a midi out connection to volca drum, which means the midi connection, from zoom to zoom. This ipad will then be midi in.
So with link to midi on shoom ipad and midi in from other ipad, plus link enabled across devices.
Does the midi cable just work on its own?
If the purpose is to provide better sync?
Thanks.
Please take what I said as personal experience only. YMMV. Many right now are loving their setup.
Dont worry mate. Its up to people to decide anyway.
Yes, it can provide better sync across devices.
I use a combination of Ableton Link over WiFi and midi clock
as AUM doesn't have midi clock in, it only has midi clock out.
You could send midi clock out from AUM to the Volca.
If you're going midi out to the Volca then iPad Air 2 is midi out to the Volca not in.
If you're sending midi out from iPad Air 3?
then that's Zoom iPad Air 3 out to Zoom iPad Air 2 in.
That's doable.
If you're syncing everything without running AUM on both machines in sync then yes.
As you're using AUM on both machines then no.
No worries.
Thanks.
Whats best setup for shoom on ipad air 2 and volca drum. If the midi cable provides better sync?
So along with abe link on but maybe not on ipad air 2. I think I could have audio input of volca drum on ipad air 3 zoom u44 instead, along with mic and a mono volca modular but have the midi out to volca drum from other zoom on ipad air 2?
This means shoom and turntable input will only be on ipad air 2 and wont need link and definately not start/stop.
But how to send audio to aum on ipad air 3?
I guess the spdif should show as a hardware input to ipad air 3
but shoom and turntable would be combined ( plus no multi out ) /effects
Unless you can use audiobus or aum.
Maybe I should just see how link will be?
Dont know what Im on about though mate.
Okay using the midi cable you can definitely send midi clock to the volca so this is cool.
You can have Shoom hosted on AUM on the iPad Air 2.
Shoom accepts host sync/ midi clock and Ableton Link.
If you're using AUM then you can route the midi out from the Zoom to the Volca no problem as well as sending sync to the Shoom.
I have Shoom as well and it can work but you need to switch off Omni in Shoom.
You can set the midi receives in Shoom to midi channels 2, 3 and 4
if you want to play the 3 synths independently.
Or set Shoom to midi channel 2 to play all three at once.
That way you don't need to change the volca drum midi to another channel
as presumably it will automatically receive on midi 1.
In regards to the audio?
Turntable input can go into the iPad Air 2 and you can then
have Shoom on its on audio outputs say 1+2 and the turntable coming out via 3+4.
This way you can add effects to both Shoom and the turntable in AUM separately.
Use SPDIF.
It will appear as inputs 3+4 in AUM on the iPad Air 3.
Shoom via analogue outs and the turntable via SPDIF if you need them separate.
Getting a mixer will increase flexibility as you do have the volca drum.
Presumably you can setup Audiobus to do the same thing as AUM.
Good move.
Yes you do, you simply need someone to walk you through
the concept until you get it working the way you need it to.
It's all cool.
Hi mate, just letting you know your insane and way to go. Watch out for the silly apparitions when you program the drum of insanity aka volca drum. Ghosts seem to be attracted when you program to 600 bpm and drone.<> Its kinda like the e tribe with the only downside being the smaller buttons, and I (personally also need the Momo editor for true 6 channel midi. Hails to insane rigs and the process.
Also, I like shoooms tones alot but it is soaked in delay and reverb, so perhaps your right for normal synth tones.... Roll it
Seems like I dont need a midi cable from zoom to zoom if I have aum on both ipads? Or cant use a midi cable if aum is on both ipads? Just
I do have audiobus?
Id need shoom in a host and even turntable on ipad air 2.
This will send to ipad air 3 via spdif ( 3+4 ) Hopefully 3+4 of ipad air 2 zoom and not 3+4 of ipad air 3 zoom as 3+4 are a capsule.
I will re-read before buying the midi din cable anyway.
And also about aum send snyc to volca as link to midi app sends clock to volca.
Hi. Got to go out. Will be back. Volca with an editor 6 midi channel? I used an editor to program volca drum via pc connection and midi connection and wondered what a permanent tablet to control drum would be like. Not sure if volca can be sequenced multi channel via ios sequencers?
If you simply need to sync tempo then you don't need a midi cable from iPad to iPad.
Use Ableton Link.
If you're sending midi out to the volca then you
will need a midi cable from iPad Air 2 to volca.
Cool.
It provides more sync capabilities I seem to remember.
Okay then your screen on the iPad Air 2 should look something like this.
The signal sent to Zoom 3+4 analogue out is duplicated via SPDIF.
The Zoom capsule is input 3+4
Having a midi cable around will be useful.
As I've mentioned that's doable.
Hi. Thanks for replies. Should be ok ( when I buy ipad )
What does duplicate SPDIF mean?
Its just shows as another 3 + 4 ( but is actually spdif. Whilst the zoom capsule is also 3 + 4 on another aum input like usual?
Will use volca drum and modular now mainly, while waiting for new ipad. Will still use an app but not sit at desk. When I bought volca drum I was making mad tunes. Its more humanized but more fluid sounding also. When I incoperate with ios I dont really bother to make sounds but will make some sounds/tracks now. Was thinking of it being a drone machine lately after seeing a vid about it being a lyra. Will set to 600. Thanks.
@sigma79
Apologies, that's the way my brain shorthand's stuff.
Analogue outs 3+4 are duplicated on SPDIF out 3+4.
Which means they are identical.
Grav. Been able to sync volca for a while. Thought the midi cable was from zoom to zoom to provide better sync than link ( but with link still on ) Iv got that cable anyway but will just see how link is first. Who buys a 50cm midi cable? but will be there from zoom to zoom, if needed. Need metres to get to volca drum now.
no worries. I wont lose channels. 1 + 2 trs in and spdif to another zoom which has 1,2.3.4 inputs used. Will just show on ipad as another 3 + 4?
Lets say both zooms all had channel inputs 1,2,3,4 used.
How would it show in reciever host and does it mean you keep all inputs?
Thanks mate.
With both Zoom's you will see all inputs and outputs in AUM.
After that it's simply a matter of how you
configure the routing and what you have connected.
Thanks Gravitas. Cheers for info.
I use the 6 channel midi in abelton to clarify. Not iOS. Check Momo editors they are 5 bucks and he adds features its mad hatter. I bet used oscillator sinks editor which is free and good but Momo eats rabbits for breakfast. I know nothing about those zooms, If you rig ups volca drum or modular keep us posted. I take interest in your mayhem, cheer.
I see the momo app before. Then thought its not on ios but could use oscillator sinks with zoom u44 for midi and laptop, then add IOS projects via headphone out to zoom. Now iv bought another zoom it can be official. I will buy app if its much better and be able to save my sounds. Thanks.
Iv said I wont be on IOS much because of waiting for gear ( which is stupid ) but I could forsee a strict volca drum. Volca modular and Mononoke + effects ( maybe gauss also ) as a learning curve.
Volca drum is ok with elastic drums also. Via midi. You get stutters and rolls. Stutters like Gr-16 on volca and rolls like SB drum via elastic drums. It also sounds cool without beats but through loads of effects.
oceansinspace. Oscilator sinks app was good for shaping sound, rather than drum but cant remember if you could save sounds you shape on drum. Can you shape sound on drum and save via momo app? I know its better as I say to use app to shape sound but Id probably be making sound whilst in ios with synths etc.
but.. another question regarding previous question. Found device via audiobus threads. Cant remember who made thread. Maybe rs2000 or Gravitas.
This device
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/For-iPhone-8Pin-Lightning-to-USB-3-0-Camera-Adapter-Charging-Cable-OTG-Data-Sync/264758054301?hash=item3da4cf4d9d:g:WvwAAOSwB5Fe3y~7
Maybe I can use to connect ipad to zoom but with other usb input, add laptop to use with momo app to shape sound, whilst everything is still on ios. Then again new ipad is meant to be just for shoom but would be cool if you could also send midi ( volca drum will be connected ) from laptop and momo app.
System is growing even more. Taking over the world.
Its in the rain man.
Can you not hear notes, as the droplets caress the ground at velocity and spin in an mpe like structure?
nuva question good fellow. Can you still use app if computer isnt near volca drum? With setup Id need to walk from computer to drum. Maybe when stuff arrives Id move volca drum but dosent seem likely at mo. So would maybe just use app to shape sounds rather than be near screen to tweak sounds, live. Still gonna buy app though.
Probably best to just shape sounds ( because of sequencer ) needing to be near drum more but Id still need to know if device posted would be ok. In case I make sounds via everything.