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  • sigma79sigma79

    @Gravitas said:

    @sigma79 said:
    A mix bus in aum sent via spdif even with 1 + 2 line input in same aum. Would be a stereo out channel and fine for spdif?

    Yup.

    Have you got an iPhone???

    You can test it like that.

    One iPhone and one iPad.
    Two CCK's and two Zoom U-44's.

    Bought them faux cables

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Pseudo-Balanced-Phono-Damme-Starquad/dp/B01NCND7EJ?th=1

    Without even checking back of mixer lol

    Mixer has phone master out or booth rca/phono.

    Apart from affecting future mixer choice as some mixers have both rca or phone or just phone. Plus if these cables are good for noise reduction of unbalanced to balanced and not noticable to a balanced cable.

    Is phone actually trs and a trs to trs on all mixer outputs balanced?

    and better in theory than a pseudo balanced?

    ( how confusing is that for someone semi blind. Phone looked like phono and phono is rca and phone is maybe just trs anyway )

    Thanks.

  • sigma79sigma79

    @sigma79 said:

    @Gravitas said:

    @sigma79 said:
    A mix bus in aum sent via spdif even with 1 + 2 line input in same aum. Would be a stereo out channel and fine for spdif?

    Yup.

    Have you got an iPhone???

    You can test it like that.

    One iPhone and one iPad.
    Two CCK's and two Zoom U-44's.

    Bought them faux cables

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Pseudo-Balanced-Phono-Damme-Starquad/dp/B01NCND7EJ?th=1

    Without even checking back of mixer lol

    Mixer has phone master out or booth rca/phono.

    Apart from affecting future mixer choice as some mixers have both rca or phone or just phone. Plus if these cables are good for noise reduction of unbalanced to balanced and not noticable to a balanced cable.

    Is phone actually trs and a trs to trs on all mixer outputs balanced?

    and better in theory than a pseudo balanced?

    ( how confusing is that for someone semi blind. Phone looked like phono and phono is rca and phone is maybe just trs anyway )

    Thanks.

    Dosent matter would likely buy numark scratch so would need these cables to output to a zoom in non usb mode to another zoom ( aum ) with either mixer digital or analogue.

    Seems mad though. Ipad and cck for mixer. Output with pseusdo cables to a zoom. Zoom in non usb mode. Spdif to another zoom and ipad (aum) and the same in analogue mode ( using both ipads on zooms )

    I guess you would feel better with balanced outputs and real balanced cables but means buying a mixars duo which is massive.

  • sigma79sigma79

    @Gravitas said:

    @sigma79 said:
    Gravitas.

    Hi.

    Cable buying soon.

    You said coaxial over optical because we thought id buy NI mk2. Coaxial supports higher resolution than optical ( which is why I think they say its sounds better ) but zoom u44 maximum resolution is opticals maximum resolution and coaxial has noise.

    Yup, that is correct.
    KA6 mkii only has coax connections therefore it is logical
    to connect the Zoom U-44 to the KA 6 mkii using coax.

    Unless you're running really long cables?
    You will have no problem with noise.
    You don't have to buy gold or silver cable.
    Get a good coax cable and you'll be okay.

    And, in our experience, compared to optical, a coaxial connection does tend to sound better. That's because it has greater bandwidth available, meaning it can support higher quality audio up to 24-bit/192kHz. Optical is usually restricted to 96kHz.

    It will sound better because you can go up to 192kHz using coax.
    If the equipment supports both optical and coax you
    shouldn't hear any difference in quality.

    Different equipment will render different results.

    You will also hear a difference when recording
    at higher sample rates that's for sure.
    The Zoom U-44 only goes up to 96kHz
    so you'll have no problems either way.

    Cons for coaxial.

    **The main downside to a coaxial digital connection is the potential transfer of electrical noise between your kit. Noise is bad news when it comes to sound quality, but it exists in all AV components to one degree or another. Unfortunately, using a coaxial connection enables noise to travel along the cable from the source to your amplifier.

    You will hear noise if the isolating transformer design is crap,
    if the equipment isn't grounded properly, if there isn't a stable digital clock,
    if there is noise already inherent in the actual design of the products you are using.
    Noise in the signal chain is accumulative.
    It can start from the power supplies and continue all
    the way through to the monitors you're using.

    Digital noise is normally described as jitter.
    Another thing to take into consideration when reading this
    article is that they do not quantify what they mean by ,'noise'.

    The quotes you are using is from an audiophile article.
    We're discussing pro consumer to professional equipment.
    Audiophile articles tend to discuss a lot of snake oil.
    No offence to audiophiles.

    Also, coaxial doesn't have the bandwidth required to support high-quality surround sound formats such as Dolby TrueHD, DTS-HD Master Audio, Dolby Atmos and DTS:X. So, in a modern home cinema setting, its uses are quite limited.**

    Hhmmm always depends upon the equipment involved.

    If the equipment uses coax?
    Use coax.
    If the equipment uses optical?
    Use optical.

    You can get an adapter for coax to optical and optical to coax.

    If the equipment uses other formats?
    Use the necessary equipment to get them to transmit/receive.

    Cons for optical.

    Like coaxial, one of the issues with optical is that it doesn’t have enough bandwidth for the lossless audio formats such as Dolby TrueHD or DTS-HD Master Audio soundtracks found on most Blu-rays. An optical connection also can’t support more than two channels of uncompressed PCM audio. Then there's the threat of damage if an optical cable is bent too tightly.

    Optical cables can become bent so don't bend them
    Coax cables can fray or the plugs themselves can get damaged.
    If it's a permanent setup you've got nothing to worry about.
    The best thing is be careful.

    Coax and optical at this level is for two channel audio.
    Once you step out of consumer level equipment?
    You have the ADAT format using only one cable out and another cable in.
    ADAT format uses optical cables to transmit and receive
    eight channels of audio per cable for instance.
    Which can go up to 192kHz with a reduction of channels though.
    Look up SMUX.

    I'm not going to list all of them.

    Coaxial vs Optical?

    Id probably just by a QED Performance Digital Coaxial Audio Cable ( won awards ) if coaxial is favoured.

    My first coax cables where simple hifi cables.
    They worked and still work to this day.

    The current ones I use I made myself as my original ones
    were either to long or to short dependant upon my configuration
    with no problems at all.

    For turtable. Found these.

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Pseudo-Balanced-Phono-Damme-Starquad/dp/B01NCND7EJ?th=1

    You think its true they reduce noise? These are singles.

    Id dont think id need to gain an input but theres also dual rca to trs. Phono out is a weak signal?

    Turntable signal is a much quieter signal and requires a preamp.
    More modern turntables have standard consumer level phono outs
    which could be plugged in straight into line level.

    You have a Technics SL1200?

    Get a proper preamp and make sure you ground it well.

    So 2 inputs from single cables might be better signal boost ( I think aum combines 1 + 2 )

    but do 2 inputs also double noise? Wouldnt have thought so if they made pseudo balanced cables?

    You'll have to try those out yourself.

    If you get these cables report back.

    By the way was the article for the QED performance cable???

    If so they're simply trying to sell you the cable.

    p.s. I'll double check my reply tomorrow to
    make sure there are no inaccuracies.

    Grav. How do you set this up. Bought a coax cable to spdif from zoom to zoom but it only shows usb inputs. 1+2. 1. 2. 3+4, 3.4

    I got 2 x zoom u44. 1 with a capsule. That zoom has a mic, volca modular and volca drum on the capsule. 4 inputs. The other zoom dosent have a capsule but inputs are used with stereo input of a turntable. Kind of need to spdif input, into the zoom that has 4 inputs. Whilst keeping the 4 inputs. Thought I read that the spdif would just show as a duplicate of 3 + 4. Adding an additional stereo input.

    Using this cable.

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B003CQXSRQ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

  • GravitasGravitas

    Dude, that cable is to expensive.
    That's why I mentioned snake oil.

    I have a pair that I use for slightly longer cable
    runs that have lasted me almost twenty years and
    costed £5 in total for both with gold connectors.

    Right then.

    You should have no problem.
    Are you selecting the inputs properly via AUM?
    Also check the side of the receiving Zoom U-44
    because it needs to be switched to SPDIF.

  • sigma79sigma79

    @Gravitas said:
    Dude, that cable is to expensive.
    That's why I mentioned snake oil.

    I have a pair that I use for slightly longer cable
    runs that have lasted me almost twenty years and
    costed £5 in total for both with gold connectors.

    Right then.

    You should have no problem.
    Are you selecting the inputs properly via AUM?
    Also check the side of the receiving Zoom U-44
    because it needs to be switched to SPDIF.

    I were going to buy a £40 which is expensive and cheap compared to cables but thought there wont be difference in audio unless theres a problem with cable so spent £20 on an oxygen free. Thick. Sheilded. Good connections.

    The zoom thats sending is flashing ( spdif ) the reciever zoom (aum) is lit but not flashing (spdif )

    Not showing extra inputs in aum. Only the usb 1-4

    There would be a deck that has its own soundcard with an iphone The zoom will just pass the audio which were recieved by them pseudo rca. Then spdif into aum, which has inputs 1-4 used by volcas and mic. This is to keep volca drum plugged in but also use effects on ipad, to the spdif input.

    Downloaded the u44 editor but just seems like writing. You change sample rate. Then plug in another zoom to pc and the sample rate is what you just set the other zoom to. So not sure if its actually sending info to zooms or is just some writing on screen.

  • GravitasGravitas

    @sigma79 said:

    @Gravitas said:
    Dude, that cable is to expensive.
    That's why I mentioned snake oil.

    I have a pair that I use for slightly longer cable
    runs that have lasted me almost twenty years and
    costed £5 in total for both with gold connectors.

    Right then.

    You should have no problem.
    Are you selecting the inputs properly via AUM?
    Also check the side of the receiving Zoom U-44
    because it needs to be switched to SPDIF.

    I were going to buy a £40 which is expensive and cheap compared to cables but thought there wont be difference in audio unless theres a problem with cable so spent £20 on an oxygen free. Thick. Sheilded. Good connections.

    No problem.
    If you gave me the heads up I could've found reasonably
    priced cables for you with no affect to the quality.

    The zoom thats sending is flashing ( spdif ) the reciever zoom (aum) is lit but not flashing (spdif )

    The flashing Zoom has a digital sync problem.
    I don't have the capsule so I can't check but
    I would think that it's expecting a digital signal and isn't receiving one.
    Try putting it into Standalone 44.1kHz or 48kHz mode dependant upon
    the recording frequency you prefer to use.

    Not showing extra inputs in aum. Only the usb 1-4

    The SPDIF input is 3+4 so it won't show as extra channels in AUM.

    The Zoom U-44 is strictly a 4x4 audio interface.
    SPDIF out can either be a duplicate of 1+2 or 3+4.
    You can either select this using AUM or the dial next to the headphones socket.

    SPDIF in is only inputs 3+4.

    There would be a deck that has its own soundcard with an iphone The zoom will just pass the audio which were recieved by them pseudo rca. Then spdif into aum, which has inputs 1-4 used by volcas and mic. This is to keep volca drum plugged in but also use effects on ipad, to the spdif input.

    Downloaded the u44 editor but just seems like writing. You change sample rate. Then plug in another zoom to pc and the sample rate is what you just set the other zoom to. So not sure if its actually sending info to zooms or is just some writing on screen.

    You don't need the editor as most of the routing is hardwired into the Zoom itself,
    it also doesn't save the settings that you use in AUM or the PC.

  • sigma79sigma79

    @Gravitas said:

    @sigma79 said:

    @Gravitas said:
    Dude, that cable is to expensive.
    That's why I mentioned snake oil.

    I have a pair that I use for slightly longer cable
    runs that have lasted me almost twenty years and
    costed £5 in total for both with gold connectors.

    Right then.

    You should have no problem.
    Are you selecting the inputs properly via AUM?
    Also check the side of the receiving Zoom U-44
    because it needs to be switched to SPDIF.

    I were going to buy a £40 which is expensive and cheap compared to cables but thought there wont be difference in audio unless theres a problem with cable so spent £20 on an oxygen free. Thick. Sheilded. Good connections.

    No problem.
    If you gave me the heads up I could've found reasonably
    priced cables for you with no affect to the quality.

    The zoom thats sending is flashing ( spdif ) the reciever zoom (aum) is lit but not flashing (spdif )

    The flashing Zoom has a digital sync problem.
    I don't have the capsule so I can't check but
    I would think that it's expecting a digital signal and isn't receiving one.
    Try putting it into Standalone 44.1kHz or 48kHz mode dependant upon
    the recording frequency you prefer to use.

    Not showing extra inputs in aum. Only the usb 1-4

    The SPDIF input is 3+4 so it won't show as extra channels in AUM.

    The Zoom U-44 is strictly a 4x4 audio interface.
    SPDIF out can either be a duplicate of 1+2 or 3+4.
    You can either select this using AUM or the dial next to the headphones socket.

    SPDIF in is only inputs 3+4.

    There would be a deck that has its own soundcard with an iphone The zoom will just pass the audio which were recieved by them pseudo rca. Then spdif into aum, which has inputs 1-4 used by volcas and mic. This is to keep volca drum plugged in but also use effects on ipad, to the spdif input.

    Downloaded the u44 editor but just seems like writing. You change sample rate. Then plug in another zoom to pc and the sample rate is what you just set the other zoom to. So not sure if its actually sending info to zooms or is just some writing on screen.

    You don't need the editor as most of the routing is hardwired into the Zoom itself,
    it also doesn't save the settings that you use in AUM or the PC.

    Will need to send the audio then from deck, through the chain. If theres no extra inputs indicator in aum ( but duplicates you suggest ) Will have to power a zoom with batteries as waiting for psu.

    With the sync of zooms. Iv got the reciever to not be flashing but on. The sender were flashing but now isnt on. Is the goal for both sync led to be on?

    Thanks

  • GravitasGravitas

    Yup the goal is to have both in sync.

    Here's a suggestion.
    We could FaceTime and I could talk you directly through the wiring.
    Afterwards you could post up the completed setup.

  • sigma79sigma79

    @Gravitas said:
    Yup the goal is to have both in sync.

    Here's a suggestion.
    We could FaceTime and I could talk you directly through the wiring.
    Afterwards you could post up the completed setup.

    Thanks. Il message back later. Need to clear the desk as theres cables everywhere and the cck is not working. Aum cant even see the zoom, which happens now and again but now its just not working, whether I restart aum. Unplug cck or restart zoom.

    Seems like a lot of hassle also, with volumes settings, sync and the cck thing. Id just sell zoom and return the coaxial cable and maybe psu. Id just have to unplug 2 inputs on a zoom for a deck input. Deck input would still have aum effects.

  • GravitasGravitas

    @sigma79 said:

    @Gravitas said:
    Yup the goal is to have both in sync.

    Here's a suggestion.
    We could FaceTime and I could talk you directly through the wiring.
    Afterwards you could post up the completed setup.

    Thanks. Il message back later. Need to clear the desk as theres cables everywhere and the cck is not working. Aum cant even see the zoom, which happens now and again but now its just not working, whether I restart aum. Unplug cck or restart zoom.

    Okay, no problem.
    No need to clear the desk, you should see my music room.
    It's errrmm crazy at the moment.

    Seems like a lot of hassle also, with volumes settings, sync and the cck thing. Id just sell zoom and return the coaxial cable and maybe psu. Id just have to unplug 2 inputs on a zoom for a deck input. Deck input would still have aum effects.

    It's far simpler than you think.

    Are you powering the Zoom solely via the bus?

    If so the Zoom's may not be receiving enough current to work properly.
    Try connecting a regular usb power supply to the Zoom using a
    micro usb connector as well as having it connected to the CCK
    via USB and switching the power button on the side to "DC in (Tablet)".

  • sigma79sigma79

    @Gravitas said:

    @sigma79 said:

    @Gravitas said:
    Yup the goal is to have both in sync.

    Here's a suggestion.
    We could FaceTime and I could talk you directly through the wiring.
    Afterwards you could post up the completed setup.

    Thanks. Il message back later. Need to clear the desk as theres cables everywhere and the cck is not working. Aum cant even see the zoom, which happens now and again but now its just not working, whether I restart aum. Unplug cck or restart zoom.

    Okay, no problem.
    No need to clear the desk, you should see my music room.
    It's errrmm crazy at the moment.

    Seems like a lot of hassle also, with volumes settings, sync and the cck thing. Id just sell zoom and return the coaxial cable and maybe psu. Id just have to unplug 2 inputs on a zoom for a deck input. Deck input would still have aum effects.

    It's far simpler than you think.

    Are you powering the Zoom solely via the bus?

    If so the Zoom's may not be receiving enough current to work properly.
    Try connecting a regular usb power supply to the Zoom using a
    micro usb connector as well as having it connected to the CCK
    via USB and switching the power button on the side to "DC in (Tablet)".

    What about selling both zooms/capsule and buying a Focusrite scarlet 1818 3rd gen?

    Id have deck stereo. Volca drum stereo. Mono mic and even volca modular can be stereo again.

    What about sound quality vs zoom and headphone output volume?

    Think Id need to if I dont want to unplug a volca drum.

  • sigma79sigma79
    edited May 2021

    This is insane. Havent even used mic. Not even sure Id keep volcas etc.

    but if focusrite is ok. Shouldnt be a prob buying. Provided zooms sell.

    This were because of shoom. I were going to add another ipad.

  • GravitasGravitas

    Give me a holla dude.

    Let's get this working for you before you sell stuff
    and go looking for another audio interface.

  • sigma79sigma79
    edited May 2021

    Both zoom would only benefit from another ipad and even then it would route through zooms ( spdif ) and it would only be for noisemakers anyway ( a mononoke ipad would be cool for example ) but I think Iv got a setup where theres loads of midi anyway so Id generally have spare screen space. So even then I could just route noisemakers from an iphone at a less good sound quality but even then maybe the phone will use the soundcard thats built into to headache sound omni? Which would output to a scarlet. I think people rate the zooms soundwise but the scarlet might be good. Heard headphone out might not be blasting though. Zooms have gained value. If they sell. Id sell for about price I paid which is a saving for buyer. Sell the other with capsule. Add psu and usb cable. Send back spdif cable and send back x2 psu arriving soon. Enough for the 1818.

  • sigma79sigma79

    Whats the opinion on the scarlet inputs? Volca drum and modular on the line inputs at back because they have a volume on units. Deck ( stereo ) to front inputs because volume on deck is at back of deck. Theres a volume on deck but havent been able to map to djplayerpro ( will have to ask about that ) mic input with phantom power.

  • GravitasGravitas

    @sigma79 said:
    Both zoom would only benefit from another ipad and even then it would route through zooms ( spdif ) and it would only be for noisemakers anyway ( a mononoke ipad would be cool for example ) but I think Iv got a setup where theres loads of midi anyway so Id generally have spare screen space. So even then I could just route noisemakers from an iphone at a less good sound quality but even then maybe the phone will use the soundcard thats built into to headache sound omni? Which would output to a scarlet. I think people rate the zooms soundwise but the scarlet might be good. Heard headphone out might not be blasting though. Zooms have gained value. If they sell. Id sell for about price I paid which is a saving for buyer. Sell the other with capsule. Add psu and usb cable. Send back spdif cable and send back x2 psu arriving soon. Enough for the 1818.

    Are you using one of the Zooms standalone without an iPad connected?
    If so then that would explain the flashing sync LED.

    Okay, the Focusrite 1818 has good preamps and a good solid rep.
    Around the same price you could get a Soundcraft Ui12
    with equally as good preamps along with built in effects.
    Another contender would be the Behringer x18 x air.

    To connect your turntable you will need a phono preamp.
    All of these audio interfaces accept instrument/line/mic
    but will have an impedance mismatch with a turntable.
    You could get one of these from Richer Sounds.

    Now all of this depends upon what you need your rig to do.

  • sigma79sigma79

    @Gravitas said:

    @sigma79 said:
    Both zoom would only benefit from another ipad and even then it would route through zooms ( spdif ) and it would only be for noisemakers anyway ( a mononoke ipad would be cool for example ) but I think Iv got a setup where theres loads of midi anyway so Id generally have spare screen space. So even then I could just route noisemakers from an iphone at a less good sound quality but even then maybe the phone will use the soundcard thats built into to headache sound omni? Which would output to a scarlet. I think people rate the zooms soundwise but the scarlet might be good. Heard headphone out might not be blasting though. Zooms have gained value. If they sell. Id sell for about price I paid which is a saving for buyer. Sell the other with capsule. Add psu and usb cable. Send back spdif cable and send back x2 psu arriving soon. Enough for the 1818.

    Are you using one of the Zooms standalone without an iPad connected?
    If so then that would explain the flashing sync LED.

    Okay, the Focusrite 1818 has good preamps and a good solid rep.
    Around the same price you could get a Soundcraft Ui12
    with equally as good preamps along with built in effects.
    Another contender would be the Behringer x18 x air.

    To connect your turntable you will need a phono preamp.
    All of these audio interfaces accept instrument/line/mic
    but will have an impedance mismatch with a turntable.
    You could get one of these from Richer Sounds.

    Now all of this depends upon what you need your rig to do.

    Setup both with a psu plus connected to ipad via cck ( when it worked ) but couldnt even get the cck to show zoom u44 in aum. Sometimes it happens but on this occassion it would just show mic input. No matter how I connect everything else. Not ideal when trying to sort out the spdif. So gave up.

    Thinking of definately buying the scarlet though although its big and dosent really solve cable management but think it has all the inputs needed for the devices described. Volca drum. Volca modular and mic, needing phantom and Id even gain a stereo input back to the modular, although it wasnt much difference in terms of sound, when mono.

    The omni turntable has a soundcard. The standard rates I guess 44.100. 92 whatever it is. Plus phono amps. Line and phono out. It would have been the same as an input to a zoom I guess.

    It works with djplayerpro with the old cck ( without power ) but if you dont use screen for cuepoints etc, then phone session lasts. This then output of deck to aum ( for recording and delays etc )

    Thought it were good, then thought it were terrible but deleted app because audio waveforms would just stutter. Then after re-installing it were good. So bought an mp3 scratch vinyl.

    Overall the real vinyl seems only slightly better maybe but I think ( not sure ) using it digital stops a slight knocking sound of amps inside. Kind of like the Foltek resonant garden maybe.

    Didnt need to go on with the last few sentences but just sharing info on audio gear.

  • sigma79sigma79

    @Gravitas said:

    @sigma79 said:
    Both zoom would only benefit from another ipad and even then it would route through zooms ( spdif ) and it would only be for noisemakers anyway ( a mononoke ipad would be cool for example ) but I think Iv got a setup where theres loads of midi anyway so Id generally have spare screen space. So even then I could just route noisemakers from an iphone at a less good sound quality but even then maybe the phone will use the soundcard thats built into to headache sound omni? Which would output to a scarlet. I think people rate the zooms soundwise but the scarlet might be good. Heard headphone out might not be blasting though. Zooms have gained value. If they sell. Id sell for about price I paid which is a saving for buyer. Sell the other with capsule. Add psu and usb cable. Send back spdif cable and send back x2 psu arriving soon. Enough for the 1818.

    Are you using one of the Zooms standalone without an iPad connected?
    If so then that would explain the flashing sync LED.

    Okay, the Focusrite 1818 has good preamps and a good solid rep.
    Around the same price you could get a Soundcraft Ui12
    with equally as good preamps along with built in effects.
    Another contender would be the Behringer x18 x air.

    To connect your turntable you will need a phono preamp.
    All of these audio interfaces accept instrument/line/mic
    but will have an impedance mismatch with a turntable.
    You could get one of these from Richer Sounds.

    Now all of this depends upon what you need your rig to do.

    Whats with usb c?

    Theres 2nd gen focusrite with 2.0

    3rd gen with usb c.

    Do you still use standard apple cck3?

    I might be buying a launchpad mini and either a duo fake cck from amazon or a hub for the cck3. I think from posts you found something from ebay, if I recall.

    Is it more issues with a duo cck + usb c or does it give more power to unpowered hubs or duo cck ?

    Whats the gain from a usb c scarlet vs usb 2.0 scarlet?

    Thanks

  • GravitasGravitas

    @sigma79 said:

    @Gravitas said:

    @sigma79 said:
    Both zoom would only benefit from another ipad and even then it would route through zooms ( spdif ) and it would only be for noisemakers anyway ( a mononoke ipad would be cool for example ) but I think Iv got a setup where theres loads of midi anyway so Id generally have spare screen space. So even then I could just route noisemakers from an iphone at a less good sound quality but even then maybe the phone will use the soundcard thats built into to headache sound omni? Which would output to a scarlet. I think people rate the zooms soundwise but the scarlet might be good. Heard headphone out might not be blasting though. Zooms have gained value. If they sell. Id sell for about price I paid which is a saving for buyer. Sell the other with capsule. Add psu and usb cable. Send back spdif cable and send back x2 psu arriving soon. Enough for the 1818.

    Are you using one of the Zooms standalone without an iPad connected?
    If so then that would explain the flashing sync LED.

    Okay, the Focusrite 1818 has good preamps and a good solid rep.
    Around the same price you could get a Soundcraft Ui12
    with equally as good preamps along with built in effects.
    Another contender would be the Behringer x18 x air.

    To connect your turntable you will need a phono preamp.
    All of these audio interfaces accept instrument/line/mic
    but will have an impedance mismatch with a turntable.
    You could get one of these from Richer Sounds.

    Now all of this depends upon what you need your rig to do.

    Whats with usb c?

    Theres 2nd gen focusrite with 2.0

    3rd gen with usb c.

    Do you still use standard apple cck3?

    I might be buying a launchpad mini and either a duo fake cck from amazon or a hub for the cck3. I think from posts you found something from ebay, if I recall.

    Is it more issues with a duo cck + usb c or does it give more power to unpowered hubs or duo cck ?

    Whats the gain from a usb c scarlet vs usb 2.0 scarlet?

    Thanks

    When looking for that cck, check the length.
    The one at 6cm is temperamental, the one at 8cm is solid.

  • sigma79sigma79

    @Gravitas said:

    @sigma79 said:

    @Gravitas said:

    @sigma79 said:
    Both zoom would only benefit from another ipad and even then it would route through zooms ( spdif ) and it would only be for noisemakers anyway ( a mononoke ipad would be cool for example ) but I think Iv got a setup where theres loads of midi anyway so Id generally have spare screen space. So even then I could just route noisemakers from an iphone at a less good sound quality but even then maybe the phone will use the soundcard thats built into to headache sound omni? Which would output to a scarlet. I think people rate the zooms soundwise but the scarlet might be good. Heard headphone out might not be blasting though. Zooms have gained value. If they sell. Id sell for about price I paid which is a saving for buyer. Sell the other with capsule. Add psu and usb cable. Send back spdif cable and send back x2 psu arriving soon. Enough for the 1818.

    Are you using one of the Zooms standalone without an iPad connected?
    If so then that would explain the flashing sync LED.

    Okay, the Focusrite 1818 has good preamps and a good solid rep.
    Around the same price you could get a Soundcraft Ui12
    with equally as good preamps along with built in effects.
    Another contender would be the Behringer x18 x air.

    To connect your turntable you will need a phono preamp.
    All of these audio interfaces accept instrument/line/mic
    but will have an impedance mismatch with a turntable.
    You could get one of these from Richer Sounds.

    Now all of this depends upon what you need your rig to do.

    Whats with usb c?

    Theres 2nd gen focusrite with 2.0

    3rd gen with usb c.

    Do you still use standard apple cck3?

    I might be buying a launchpad mini and either a duo fake cck from amazon or a hub for the cck3. I think from posts you found something from ebay, if I recall.

    Is it more issues with a duo cck + usb c or does it give more power to unpowered hubs or duo cck ?

    Whats the gain from a usb c scarlet vs usb 2.0 scarlet?

    Thanks

    When looking for that cck, check the length.
    The one at 6cm is temperamental, the one at 8cm is solid.

    Cheers Grav. Will ask about that when needed ( if ok )

    Not in no rush to buy the focusrite scarlett 1818 3rd gen but will sell a zoom u44 plus a psu in the meantime. If that sells will then consider if I actually need to sell the other zoom + capsule, just so everything is plugged in. I mean it justs ocd maybe because having everything plugged in just means having a deck input, plus mic, volca modular and volca drum. For example the pinnacle is using a volca drum as more as a weird synth through phasedelayarray, which can sound ok/weird. Not sure if its essential but I guess oc. The focusrite seems to be the only audio interface, with all the connections needed.

    x2 input for the volca drum. x2 input for the volca modular. x2 input for the turntable line or phono out, depending if I use iphone or standard vinyl. x 1 input for the mic. A midi in and out for the midi connections is all thats needed also.

    It being a usb c. I dont think it really affects me apart from maybe better latency and the cable would just be a usb c to A. The A goes to cck 3?

    Theres some eithers like steinberg etc. Where Id just need to keep the volca modular mono but then it would be on an input, which shares phantom power with the mic. How does phantom power affect an instrument that dosent need it. Not ideal?

    More ocd. Kind of wish they made it silver, black or gold. Red does throw of the feng shui a bit but will never make music based on feng shui.

  • sigma79sigma79

    You know what. Dosent even look that great anyway. Feng.

  • GravitasGravitas

    @sigma79 said:

    @Gravitas said:

    @sigma79 said:

    @Gravitas said:

    @sigma79 said:
    Both zoom would only benefit from another ipad and even then it would route through zooms ( spdif ) and it would only be for noisemakers anyway ( a mononoke ipad would be cool for example ) but I think Iv got a setup where theres loads of midi anyway so Id generally have spare screen space. So even then I could just route noisemakers from an iphone at a less good sound quality but even then maybe the phone will use the soundcard thats built into to headache sound omni? Which would output to a scarlet. I think people rate the zooms soundwise but the scarlet might be good. Heard headphone out might not be blasting though. Zooms have gained value. If they sell. Id sell for about price I paid which is a saving for buyer. Sell the other with capsule. Add psu and usb cable. Send back spdif cable and send back x2 psu arriving soon. Enough for the 1818.

    Are you using one of the Zooms standalone without an iPad connected?
    If so then that would explain the flashing sync LED.

    Okay, the Focusrite 1818 has good preamps and a good solid rep.
    Around the same price you could get a Soundcraft Ui12
    with equally as good preamps along with built in effects.
    Another contender would be the Behringer x18 x air.

    To connect your turntable you will need a phono preamp.
    All of these audio interfaces accept instrument/line/mic
    but will have an impedance mismatch with a turntable.
    You could get one of these from Richer Sounds.

    Now all of this depends upon what you need your rig to do.

    Whats with usb c?

    Theres 2nd gen focusrite with 2.0

    3rd gen with usb c.

    Do you still use standard apple cck3?

    I might be buying a launchpad mini and either a duo fake cck from amazon or a hub for the cck3. I think from posts you found something from ebay, if I recall.

    Is it more issues with a duo cck + usb c or does it give more power to unpowered hubs or duo cck ?

    Whats the gain from a usb c scarlet vs usb 2.0 scarlet?

    Thanks

    When looking for that cck, check the length.
    The one at 6cm is temperamental, the one at 8cm is solid.

    Cheers Grav. Will ask about that when needed ( if ok )

    No problem.

    Not in no rush to buy the focusrite scarlett 1818 3rd gen but will sell a zoom u44 plus a psu in the meantime. If that sells will then consider if I actually need to sell the other zoom + capsule, just so everything is plugged in. I mean it justs ocd maybe because having everything plugged in just means having a deck input, plus mic, volca modular and volca drum. For example the pinnacle is using a volca drum as more as a weird synth through phasedelayarray, which can sound ok/weird. Not sure if its essential but I guess oc. The focusrite seems to be the only audio interface, with all the connections needed.

    You could do all of this using a sub mixer running into the Zoom U-44.

    For instance have the
    Turntable, Modular, Drum going into a submixer and then into the Zoom U-44
    then you can plug in the mic directly into the Zoom so
    you’ll end up having one stereo channel for everything so 3+4 using the capsule
    and channel 1 or 2 for the mic.

    This way you can add in another iPad without having to get another external audio interface
    or you can get a small mixer that also has a usb interface inbuilt
    something like the Soundcraft Notepad 8fx or the 12 channel version
    which also gives you 4x4 audio interface.

    Looking good.
    It’s changed a lot since your last photo.

    x2 input for the volca drum. x2 input for the volca modular. x2 input for the turntable line or phono out, depending if I use iphone or standard vinyl. x 1 input for the mic. A midi in and out for the midi connections is all thats needed also.

    It being a usb c. I dont think it really affects me apart from maybe better latency and the cable would just be a usb c to A. The A goes to cck 3?

    Theres some eithers like steinberg etc. Where Id just need to keep the volca modular mono but then it would be on an input, which shares phantom power with the mic. How does phantom power affect an instrument that dosent need it. Not ideal?

    Phantom power shouldn’t affect an instrument that doesn’t need it.
    You have to be careful of disconnecting an instrument when phantom power
    is switched on as it could create a short and damage the preamp.

    More ocd. Kind of wish they made it silver, black or gold. Red does throw of the feng shui a bit but will never make music based on feng shui.

  • sigma79sigma79

    @Gravitas said:

    @sigma79 said:

    @Gravitas said:

    @sigma79 said:

    @Gravitas said:

    @sigma79 said:
    Both zoom would only benefit from another ipad and even then it would route through zooms ( spdif ) and it would only be for noisemakers anyway ( a mononoke ipad would be cool for example ) but I think Iv got a setup where theres loads of midi anyway so Id generally have spare screen space. So even then I could just route noisemakers from an iphone at a less good sound quality but even then maybe the phone will use the soundcard thats built into to headache sound omni? Which would output to a scarlet. I think people rate the zooms soundwise but the scarlet might be good. Heard headphone out might not be blasting though. Zooms have gained value. If they sell. Id sell for about price I paid which is a saving for buyer. Sell the other with capsule. Add psu and usb cable. Send back spdif cable and send back x2 psu arriving soon. Enough for the 1818.

    Are you using one of the Zooms standalone without an iPad connected?
    If so then that would explain the flashing sync LED.

    Okay, the Focusrite 1818 has good preamps and a good solid rep.
    Around the same price you could get a Soundcraft Ui12
    with equally as good preamps along with built in effects.
    Another contender would be the Behringer x18 x air.

    To connect your turntable you will need a phono preamp.
    All of these audio interfaces accept instrument/line/mic
    but will have an impedance mismatch with a turntable.
    You could get one of these from Richer Sounds.

    Now all of this depends upon what you need your rig to do.

    Whats with usb c?

    Theres 2nd gen focusrite with 2.0

    3rd gen with usb c.

    Do you still use standard apple cck3?

    I might be buying a launchpad mini and either a duo fake cck from amazon or a hub for the cck3. I think from posts you found something from ebay, if I recall.

    Is it more issues with a duo cck + usb c or does it give more power to unpowered hubs or duo cck ?

    Whats the gain from a usb c scarlet vs usb 2.0 scarlet?

    Thanks

    When looking for that cck, check the length.
    The one at 6cm is temperamental, the one at 8cm is solid.

    Cheers Grav. Will ask about that when needed ( if ok )

    No problem.

    Not in no rush to buy the focusrite scarlett 1818 3rd gen but will sell a zoom u44 plus a psu in the meantime. If that sells will then consider if I actually need to sell the other zoom + capsule, just so everything is plugged in. I mean it justs ocd maybe because having everything plugged in just means having a deck input, plus mic, volca modular and volca drum. For example the pinnacle is using a volca drum as more as a weird synth through phasedelayarray, which can sound ok/weird. Not sure if its essential but I guess oc. The focusrite seems to be the only audio interface, with all the connections needed.

    You could do all of this using a sub mixer running into the Zoom U-44.

    For instance have the
    Turntable, Modular, Drum going into a submixer and then into the Zoom U-44
    then you can plug in the mic directly into the Zoom so
    you’ll end up having one stereo channel for everything so 3+4 using the capsule
    and channel 1 or 2 for the mic.

    This way you can add in another iPad without having to get another external audio interface
    or you can get a small mixer that also has a usb interface inbuilt
    something like the Soundcraft Notepad 8fx or the 12 channel version
    which also gives you 4x4 audio interface.

    Looking good.
    It’s changed a lot since your last photo.

    x2 input for the volca drum. x2 input for the volca modular. x2 input for the turntable line or phono out, depending if I use iphone or standard vinyl. x 1 input for the mic. A midi in and out for the midi connections is all thats needed also.

    It being a usb c. I dont think it really affects me apart from maybe better latency and the cable would just be a usb c to A. The A goes to cck 3?

    Theres some eithers like steinberg etc. Where Id just need to keep the volca modular mono but then it would be on an input, which shares phantom power with the mic. How does phantom power affect an instrument that dosent need it. Not ideal?

    Phantom power shouldn’t affect an instrument that doesn’t need it.
    You have to be careful of disconnecting an instrument when phantom power
    is switched on as it could create a short and damage the preamp.

    More ocd. Kind of wish they made it silver, black or gold. Red does throw of the feng shui a bit but will never make music based on feng shui.

    Zoom is on reverb. £135 with a £20 psu is a good deal. Think Id sell the other if I decide for £170. Thats a zoom, psu, cables and a capsule.

    Think I need seperate channels in aum. So a scarlett, should it show the channels like the zoom does will be ideal.

    Not sure if Id upgrade yet anyway. All it means is a turntable, deck, volca or mic isnt plugged in. Think I need to set gear back up ( after remaking the unit with mdf ) and see if Id need all inputs.

  • sigma79sigma79

    @Gravitas said:

    @sigma79 said:

    @Gravitas said:

    @sigma79 said:

    @Gravitas said:

    @sigma79 said:
    Both zoom would only benefit from another ipad and even then it would route through zooms ( spdif ) and it would only be for noisemakers anyway ( a mononoke ipad would be cool for example ) but I think Iv got a setup where theres loads of midi anyway so Id generally have spare screen space. So even then I could just route noisemakers from an iphone at a less good sound quality but even then maybe the phone will use the soundcard thats built into to headache sound omni? Which would output to a scarlet. I think people rate the zooms soundwise but the scarlet might be good. Heard headphone out might not be blasting though. Zooms have gained value. If they sell. Id sell for about price I paid which is a saving for buyer. Sell the other with capsule. Add psu and usb cable. Send back spdif cable and send back x2 psu arriving soon. Enough for the 1818.

    Are you using one of the Zooms standalone without an iPad connected?
    If so then that would explain the flashing sync LED.

    Okay, the Focusrite 1818 has good preamps and a good solid rep.
    Around the same price you could get a Soundcraft Ui12
    with equally as good preamps along with built in effects.
    Another contender would be the Behringer x18 x air.

    To connect your turntable you will need a phono preamp.
    All of these audio interfaces accept instrument/line/mic
    but will have an impedance mismatch with a turntable.
    You could get one of these from Richer Sounds.

    Now all of this depends upon what you need your rig to do.

    Whats with usb c?

    Theres 2nd gen focusrite with 2.0

    3rd gen with usb c.

    Do you still use standard apple cck3?

    I might be buying a launchpad mini and either a duo fake cck from amazon or a hub for the cck3. I think from posts you found something from ebay, if I recall.

    Is it more issues with a duo cck + usb c or does it give more power to unpowered hubs or duo cck ?

    Whats the gain from a usb c scarlet vs usb 2.0 scarlet?

    Thanks

    When looking for that cck, check the length.
    The one at 6cm is temperamental, the one at 8cm is solid.

    Cheers Grav. Will ask about that when needed ( if ok )

    No problem.

    Not in no rush to buy the focusrite scarlett 1818 3rd gen but will sell a zoom u44 plus a psu in the meantime. If that sells will then consider if I actually need to sell the other zoom + capsule, just so everything is plugged in. I mean it justs ocd maybe because having everything plugged in just means having a deck input, plus mic, volca modular and volca drum. For example the pinnacle is using a volca drum as more as a weird synth through phasedelayarray, which can sound ok/weird. Not sure if its essential but I guess oc. The focusrite seems to be the only audio interface, with all the connections needed.

    You could do all of this using a sub mixer running into the Zoom U-44.

    For instance have the
    Turntable, Modular, Drum going into a submixer and then into the Zoom U-44
    then you can plug in the mic directly into the Zoom so
    you’ll end up having one stereo channel for everything so 3+4 using the capsule
    and channel 1 or 2 for the mic.

    This way you can add in another iPad without having to get another external audio interface
    or you can get a small mixer that also has a usb interface inbuilt
    something like the Soundcraft Notepad 8fx or the 12 channel version
    which also gives you 4x4 audio interface.

    Looking good.
    It’s changed a lot since your last photo.

    x2 input for the volca drum. x2 input for the volca modular. x2 input for the turntable line or phono out, depending if I use iphone or standard vinyl. x 1 input for the mic. A midi in and out for the midi connections is all thats needed also.

    It being a usb c. I dont think it really affects me apart from maybe better latency and the cable would just be a usb c to A. The A goes to cck 3?

    Theres some eithers like steinberg etc. Where Id just need to keep the volca modular mono but then it would be on an input, which shares phantom power with the mic. How does phantom power affect an instrument that dosent need it. Not ideal?

    Phantom power shouldn’t affect an instrument that doesn’t need it.
    You have to be careful of disconnecting an instrument when phantom power
    is switched on as it could create a short and damage the preamp.

    More ocd. Kind of wish they made it silver, black or gold. Red does throw of the feng shui a bit but will never make music based on feng shui.

    Yeah. Before I were like. You know what. Even with loads of midi control it will likely sound better to listener just to sequence more and edit etc but added more controllers so back to thinking live, then editing.

  • sigma79sigma79

    @sigma79 said:

    @Gravitas said:

    @sigma79 said:

    @Gravitas said:

    @sigma79 said:

    @Gravitas said:

    @sigma79 said:
    Both zoom would only benefit from another ipad and even then it would route through zooms ( spdif ) and it would only be for noisemakers anyway ( a mononoke ipad would be cool for example ) but I think Iv got a setup where theres loads of midi anyway so Id generally have spare screen space. So even then I could just route noisemakers from an iphone at a less good sound quality but even then maybe the phone will use the soundcard thats built into to headache sound omni? Which would output to a scarlet. I think people rate the zooms soundwise but the scarlet might be good. Heard headphone out might not be blasting though. Zooms have gained value. If they sell. Id sell for about price I paid which is a saving for buyer. Sell the other with capsule. Add psu and usb cable. Send back spdif cable and send back x2 psu arriving soon. Enough for the 1818.

    Are you using one of the Zooms standalone without an iPad connected?
    If so then that would explain the flashing sync LED.

    Okay, the Focusrite 1818 has good preamps and a good solid rep.
    Around the same price you could get a Soundcraft Ui12
    with equally as good preamps along with built in effects.
    Another contender would be the Behringer x18 x air.

    To connect your turntable you will need a phono preamp.
    All of these audio interfaces accept instrument/line/mic
    but will have an impedance mismatch with a turntable.
    You could get one of these from Richer Sounds.

    Now all of this depends upon what you need your rig to do.

    Whats with usb c?

    Theres 2nd gen focusrite with 2.0

    3rd gen with usb c.

    Do you still use standard apple cck3?

    I might be buying a launchpad mini and either a duo fake cck from amazon or a hub for the cck3. I think from posts you found something from ebay, if I recall.

    Is it more issues with a duo cck + usb c or does it give more power to unpowered hubs or duo cck ?

    Whats the gain from a usb c scarlet vs usb 2.0 scarlet?

    Thanks

    When looking for that cck, check the length.
    The one at 6cm is temperamental, the one at 8cm is solid.

    Cheers Grav. Will ask about that when needed ( if ok )

    No problem.

    Not in no rush to buy the focusrite scarlett 1818 3rd gen but will sell a zoom u44 plus a psu in the meantime. If that sells will then consider if I actually need to sell the other zoom + capsule, just so everything is plugged in. I mean it justs ocd maybe because having everything plugged in just means having a deck input, plus mic, volca modular and volca drum. For example the pinnacle is using a volca drum as more as a weird synth through phasedelayarray, which can sound ok/weird. Not sure if its essential but I guess oc. The focusrite seems to be the only audio interface, with all the connections needed.

    You could do all of this using a sub mixer running into the Zoom U-44.

    For instance have the
    Turntable, Modular, Drum going into a submixer and then into the Zoom U-44
    then you can plug in the mic directly into the Zoom so
    you’ll end up having one stereo channel for everything so 3+4 using the capsule
    and channel 1 or 2 for the mic.

    This way you can add in another iPad without having to get another external audio interface
    or you can get a small mixer that also has a usb interface inbuilt
    something like the Soundcraft Notepad 8fx or the 12 channel version
    which also gives you 4x4 audio interface.

    Looking good.
    It’s changed a lot since your last photo.

    x2 input for the volca drum. x2 input for the volca modular. x2 input for the turntable line or phono out, depending if I use iphone or standard vinyl. x 1 input for the mic. A midi in and out for the midi connections is all thats needed also.

    It being a usb c. I dont think it really affects me apart from maybe better latency and the cable would just be a usb c to A. The A goes to cck 3?

    Theres some eithers like steinberg etc. Where Id just need to keep the volca modular mono but then it would be on an input, which shares phantom power with the mic. How does phantom power affect an instrument that dosent need it. Not ideal?

    Phantom power shouldn’t affect an instrument that doesn’t need it.
    You have to be careful of disconnecting an instrument when phantom power
    is switched on as it could create a short and damage the preamp.

    More ocd. Kind of wish they made it silver, black or gold. Red does throw of the feng shui a bit but will never make music based on feng shui.

    Yeah. Before I were like. You know what. Even with loads of midi control it will likely sound better to listener just to sequence more and edit etc but added more controllers so back to thinking live, then editing.

    You can still practice the track but this setup I guess allows you to go off grid, which is better for me. Maybe better for listener also. Should setup again though because I didnt even really test much. There I am buying more controllers/selling stuff etc.

  • GravitasGravitas

    Having the Focusrite will simplify things for sure.

    In regards to the prices you’ve set for the the Zoom U-44?
    Sounds about right especially now that they have their distributors in Germany.

    My setup is a bit of a hybrid.

    9.7” iPad Pro 1st gen + Zoom U-44, iPad Air 3 + Komplete Audio 6 mkii
    being summed into an original Soundcraft Notepad.
    I’m now using an Launchpad X and a Launch Control XL.
    I have dRambo and AUM on both machines and
    I sequence and launch clips on one and use
    the other as an all round sound module and sampler.

    It sounds good.

  • sigma79sigma79

    @Gravitas said:
    Having the Focusrite will simplify things for sure.

    In regards to the prices you’ve set for the the Zoom U-44?
    Sounds about right especially now that they have their distributors in Germany.

    My setup is a bit of a hybrid.

    9.7” iPad Pro 1st gen + Zoom U-44, iPad Air 3 + Komplete Audio 6 mkii
    being summed into an original Soundcraft Notepad.
    I’m now using an Launchpad X and a Launch Control XL.
    I have dRambo and AUM on both machines and
    I sequence and launch clips on one and use
    the other as an all round sound module and sampler.

    It sounds good.

    Sounds good man.

    Bet I buy the focusrite if possible. Its just bulky and will need a shelf.

    Thanks Grav

  • GravitasGravitas

    @sigma79 said:

    @Gravitas said:
    Having the Focusrite will simplify things for sure.

    In regards to the prices you’ve set for the the Zoom U-44?
    Sounds about right especially now that they have their distributors in Germany.

    My setup is a bit of a hybrid.

    9.7” iPad Pro 1st gen + Zoom U-44, iPad Air 3 + Komplete Audio 6 mkii
    being summed into an original Soundcraft Notepad.
    I’m now using an Launchpad X and a Launch Control XL.
    I have dRambo and AUM on both machines and
    I sequence and launch clips on one and use
    the other as an all round sound module and sampler.

    It sounds good.

    Sounds good man.

    Bet I buy the focusrite if possible. Its just bulky and will need a shelf.

    That's why I was recommending a small format mixer to sum the outputs
    of your external gear to stereo before going into one of the Zoom U-44's
    saying that, like I've mentioned before, the Focusrite would simplify your rig.

    Thanks Grav

    No worries dude.

  • sigma79sigma79

    @Gravitas said:

    @sigma79 said:

    @Gravitas said:
    Having the Focusrite will simplify things for sure.

    In regards to the prices you’ve set for the the Zoom U-44?
    Sounds about right especially now that they have their distributors in Germany.

    My setup is a bit of a hybrid.

    9.7” iPad Pro 1st gen + Zoom U-44, iPad Air 3 + Komplete Audio 6 mkii
    being summed into an original Soundcraft Notepad.
    I’m now using an Launchpad X and a Launch Control XL.
    I have dRambo and AUM on both machines and
    I sequence and launch clips on one and use
    the other as an all round sound module and sampler.

    It sounds good.

    Sounds good man.

    Bet I buy the focusrite if possible. Its just bulky and will need a shelf.

    That's why I was recommending a small format mixer to sum the outputs
    of your external gear to stereo before going into one of the Zoom U-44's
    saying that, like I've mentioned before, the Focusrite would simplify your rig.

    Thanks Grav

    No worries dude.

    It would have to go behind turntable but on a shelf because that will help with cable management behind deck but also need space for a launchpad mini or apc mini on the stand behind ipad. Should be ok.

  • GravitasGravitas
    edited May 2021

    @sigma79 said:

    @Gravitas said:

    @sigma79 said:

    @Gravitas said:
    Having the Focusrite will simplify things for sure.

    In regards to the prices you’ve set for the the Zoom U-44?
    Sounds about right especially now that they have their distributors in Germany.

    My setup is a bit of a hybrid.

    9.7” iPad Pro 1st gen + Zoom U-44, iPad Air 3 + Komplete Audio 6 mkii
    being summed into an original Soundcraft Notepad.
    I’m now using an Launchpad X and a Launch Control XL.
    I have dRambo and AUM on both machines and
    I sequence and launch clips on one and use
    the other as an all round sound module and sampler.

    It sounds good.

    Sounds good man.

    Bet I buy the focusrite if possible. Its just bulky and will need a shelf.

    That's why I was recommending a small format mixer to sum the outputs
    of your external gear to stereo before going into one of the Zoom U-44's
    saying that, like I've mentioned before, the Focusrite would simplify your rig.

    Thanks Grav

    No worries dude.

    It would have to go behind turntable but on a shelf because that will help with cable management behind deck but also need space for a launchpad mini or apc mini on the stand behind ipad. Should be ok.

    You could put it underneath the “Omni” from looking at your current rig.

    By the way are you based in the U.K?
    I’m London sides.

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