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It's very easy to add a powered hub.
Necessary actually because they draw a lot of current.
I've actually moved my normal keyboard out of the way
and I've got a Launchpad X and Launch Control XL in it's place.
Waiting to find suitable stands for the Novation gear
to place them above the keyboard, until then I'm learning their limitations
and how to solo and play chords on the LP X.
I would say get one, even the mini.
They're a lot of fun, I'm going to be recommending them for a long time.
My current dRambo project is designed to be controlled
in this way.
LP X launches the clips and the LC XL provides sophisticated
control over a lot of parameters including filters, adjusting
the wavetable oscillators, effects and quite a few other things.
You would be able to do this using the LP mini
directly into dRambo using the custom mappings.
No need to do it via the Faderfox.
Sounds very interesting.
By the way remember you can map the notes in the dRambo Euclidean sequencer.
I've got this thing happening where I can rotate an encoder
on the LC XL and it increase and decreases the amount of steps being
played by the Euclidean sequencer and simultaneously increasing
and decreasing the pitch of the notes.
Instant melodies.
I was looking at the id700 and then Tonestack Pro dropped
and I got Tonestack Pro instead especially as I'm all dRambofied these days.
I don't have loopbud, what does it do?
Yeah midi controllers are the way forward for sure.
They have made such a difference in the way
I'm putting together synths and projects now.
The LP X and LC XL combination is really good.
Now that I've got a MidiSynth Control happening,
creating templates on the fly is almost magical
when I need to achieve a function.
See what you mean but with the green buttons. You know which track you are transposing easier because you are working with the knob array on faderfox.
Seems like you dont need a faderfox then.
Euclidean drums are quite cool though right.
You think the launchpad mini will be better than the sub zero? Obviously its a better product but need to add a powered hub with the cck3? Sub zero does transpose octaves like a general controller like a nanokey for example. Not sure if launchpad has bottons on controller to transpose but probably does.
On controllers like launchpad. Can you set a midi channel per pad if the pads are notes. Effectivly creating a zone controller of different midi channels that are still notes?
I hear you.
Though there isn't the integration like Atom 2 with the Launchpad series
in dRambo you can do it similar things by routing out the midi information.
I've got the lights flashing and stuff on my LP X
because it responds to midi note information.
This is where the custom templates come in handy.
Again I don't have a faderfox so I wouldn't know.
What I would like in the future is a midi controller
with motorised encoders or faders.
That way I can flip between scenes with ease.
They are really cool.
I'm going to do a proper write up at some point
talking about Euclidean sequencers because
some of the polyrhythms I've been hearing remind
of African polyrhythms which is no surprise at all.
You will hear it for yourself when you create your percussion rigs.
Loopbud might work. If you Euclidean drum on a tweak basis rather than patterns. Does tweaking drum speeds sound good? Anyway with loopbud. You play a notes. Notes play back like a pianoroll. You cant edit piano roll but you can re-write the loop, next time you press keys. Or instead overdub. Bought because I couldnt find a way to easy delete a sequence but with loopbud it deletes when you play again. Maybe it will be good for basses. Id700 is rad man.
Yeah they do actually, the only thing is they need a reset input unless
you like them to play off until there eventually cycle back to being on.
I've been doing that for the past week or so with some really cool results.
They work really well on percussion sounds.
It sounds like it would be good recording bass riffs on the fly for sure.
Cooooool.
I've been hearing good things about it so far.
I’ve been reading this thread for the last two days desperately trying not to snark 🤣
Think I will buy the audioc4 and sell volca modular. The volca drum as an interluder plus drum is more versitile and even another ipad if it were just ripplemaker. I can get more sound out of ripplemaker. Cant even see where to patch on volca modular. This means not buying a launchpad yet because I might need more than the mini.
I can still use ec4 controller to both ipads and because bluetooth controllers would be on an ipad. Then the launchpad might also route to both ipads.
Not great. Always to ill. Always going on that im too ill ( like a bitch )
But id700. The highlight is 13.00. You can see me not knowing how to bring in sound. Then its like, ID700.
This is why Id use another ipad. Just to have favourite apps on screen and even though loads of midi controllers elsewhere. Just for effects and simplified. Which dosent include the launchpad though.
Good combo apps.
Why are you going to buy the AudioC4?
Size wise a larger Launchpad would be better in the long term.
You can route a Launchpad to control two iPads via Bluetooth.
Using custom mappings this is more than doable for instance
I have my LP X and LC XL sending cc messages to both of my iPads.
With my current configuration I have drm computer on one iPad and dRambo on the other.
Both the LP X and the LC XL are sending messages to both iPads.
The LC XL is mainly for mixing and adjusting synth parameters in dRambo on the fly
and the LP X is for launching Euclidean sequencers, launching clips,
triggering Buffer effects in dRambo, soloing in Note mode and for mixing.
Hi man.
For a second cheapish ipad. Not yet but will be more valuable than a volca. The Audioc4 is for 2 ipads?
The usb host I think has enough power to actually power a launchpad so no need even for a hub?
Wondered if launchpad could be BT. You would need a BT dongle?
But if I get the audioc4. It routes anyway?
Think Id still buy a launchpad mini but will obviously have to think.
Whats the euclidean sequencer launching. Is this the reset thing of the sequencers? What does this achieve?
Does it gain a manual stutter/repeat on a kick?
I don't about that.
I would say get the Focusrite, keep the Zoom U-44 with the capsule and sell the other Zoom.
You can then sum everything in the Focusrite and use a a second iPad with the other Zoom.
The USB hub has to be powered, no way around it.
By the time you've got all this happening you will need the extra power.
No the Launchpad X isn't BT but the Launchpad Pro can be used
in standalone so therefore you could, use a Bt midi dongle.
It means I can start/stop it in time.
The Euclidean Sequencer dRambo sometimes needs to be reset to the on beat.
Having a reset input would achieve this.
Using the Euclidean Sequencer as clip launcher in way achieves this but
one gets a bar of silence before it can start again.
I'm sure I could tweak it but that's how functioning at the moment.
It does gain a repeat as the steps number decreases
in the way I have out this one together.
Only need the inputs of the audioc4, if I sell a volca. Plus it will be cheaper should both zooms sell and dont forsee needing more inputs.
Maybe the usb host port on audioc4 can power a launchpad mini ( but would obviously need a powered hub if using more usb devices? )
Will have to see what you mean about Euclidean sequencer.
Thanks
Okay, I see what you're saying as your thinking about selling a Volca.
If you're thinking about sellling the Modular, I may be interested.
From the write ups so far, it does seem like you can power the iPads
from it and possibly the Launchpad mini or the version
you're going to get.
Yeah, I'm going to do a vid of it as well as the rest of this particular
project, I'm currently waiting for a lens to turn up and a tripod
and then I'm going to be ready to livestream properly.
I'll be doing walk throughs for sure.
No worries.
From audio4+ manual. Not sure if its the same for audioc4
USB A Host Jack
This USB 2.0 jack supports up to eight 16-channel MIDI Ports, divided among up to
eight USB MIDI Class-Compliant devices.
Connect, for example, a MIDI keyboard controller via its USB MIDI port instead of using
5-pin DIN cables. Up to 500mA – the USB power standard – is provided, enough to
power a single device. Or connect up to eight USB MIDI devices via a powered USB
hub.
Then theres the ccks. Says to use the original ccks and not the cck3. Iv already got a cck3. Would need to buy another for a 2nd ipad. I guess the audioc4 powers ipads if its saying to use original cck but if that gives less to the usb host, then Id use the cck3. Maybe you can still use the cck3 without power anyway?
I would let someone who actually has an AudioC4 to give advice here.
I don't have one and I haven't tested one at all.
Theoretically it sounds like it can provide enough power
and be used as a USB hub.
I think they are saying use the
original Apple lightning to usb 3 adapters
rather than a third party CCK.
Sounds cool then. Tried syncing video from phone to audio of ipad, using imovie. Let us know how you get on with the euclidean. Will sell the modular to you if I sell. It does sound better than ripplemaker. Plus it has a psu. Its just been patched a couple times from youtube tuturiols. Think you can cross patch volca modulars ( which might even be better that cv out from drambo to volca modular ) which maybe the komplete audio 6 can send via dc outputs ) but x patched volca modular plus cv out might be good. The patch cables are long enough to x patch if volcas are vertical I guess. You could maybe get x2 volca modular for £200.
Volca modular vs ripplemaker. The modular has beef.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/uns17371y5kh0zg/Bush Krell.wav?dl=0
The Euclidean sequencer patches are already finished.
I'm enjoying playing them and practicing performing.
This project is a live performance piece rather than a tutorial
though it does need a tutorial to learn how to play it.
Yep the KA 6 mkii can emit CV signals which was a pleasant surprise.
Yeah, I've seen the prices for 2nd hand Volca Modulars and a oner sounds about right.
I don't think I'll get two of the same though.
I already have a microKorg which I need to finish repairing, an original
Proteus 1 for old school electronic sounds, my bass guitar and guitars for strings,
a box full of percussion and a really nice selection of iOS apps for almost everything else.
Thanks for the example.
Okay, let's see what happens as my priority at the
moment is getting the live streaming happening.
So annoying that we need 1k subscribers
to live stream via YouTube when using mobiles.
I'm going to be doing talks as well and not only to do with music.
Cool. Will subscribe. Wheres the channel.
Think you should buy ID700 by the way. Not sure how it works but sound wise. Nice synth.
Oh cool.
My channel is here.
https://youtube.com/user/moderndayblue
Okay, thanks for the recommendation in regards to the ID700.
Subscribed Gravitas.
Gonna keep volca modular I think but if I sell Id message. Id buy the focusrite and add a usb hub for a launchpad mini.
Volca modular wise. Can I output from headphone out of ipad. Either stereo cable or splitter, should I add another volca modular or bastl kastle. Then euclidean sequence the volca modular along with echo's note generator. Sure the the volca can be generative but might be easier to control from the faderfox, along with the drum kit?
Just asking because I think I see a volca modular sequenced ( cv ) from a beatstep pro.
Thank you.
Wise decision.
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Yes, you can output a CV signal from an iPad if your iPad has
a headphone jack built in if I remember correctly.
I would advise that you don’t purchase another Volca modular or Bastl
until you’ve got your rig working smoothly after the Focusrite arrives.
I’ve had a read in regards to the Volca Modular and it doesn’t receive midi
only cv signals unless you get this thing;
https://blog.tindie.com/2020/08/volca-modular-midi-in/
By the way the Focusrite audio interfaces are not capable of
sending cv signals as their outputs are not DC coupled.
You can use the headphone outs from an iPad or iPad to send cv signals
If the headphone jack is built in, not to sure about the Bluetooth
variants or the add on headphone dongle.
Bear in mind when you have an external audio interface connected it stops
the audio coming out from the headphone jack so what you could do
is send midi information to an iPhone or iPad as your thinking about getting a second iPad,
from your main iPad and convert it to cv signals using dRambo via Bluetooth.
That way you can use the Faderfox to control the Korg Modular.
This is theoretical by the way so you know.
I’ll try doing this using my LC XL a little bit later and see if it works.
It should do.
See above and could you post the link for the volca modular being sequenced from a Beatstep Pro?
I saw 56 new in Shoom and thought it must’ve gotten a huuuuge update. What I got was a whole lotta nothin. You two are silly, really should’ve just called each other on the phone
We could’ve but we didn’t.
The conversation could be moved to “Off-topic” considering
the way it has evolved if that’ll make you happy. 😏
I don’t mind being silly once in awhile. 😁
Cheers Grav.
Decided I think, not buy another ipad. So if the ipad uses the focusrite. CV wont be sent from the headphone out?
So cv out from a Euclidean if it worked. Wouldnt be like a Euclidean melody to say phasemaker. The random note generator module but also manual notes. Like this.
Just thought if it worked the same, might be better to control but will still be ok if not.
I guess the volca modular can be randomised enough with patching.
I can get abelton link synced tempo anyway through the volca drum/out to the modular ( even though modular is good with own clock )