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  • pmartinipmartini

    @Lil_Stu07 said:

    @pmartini said:
    stupid question how to do the sequence on EG pulse?

    In AUM, load both as audio tracks. Route Drum kit to EG Pulse. Turn EG Pulse all the way down. And change the midi settings in EG Pulse to match your Drum kit layout.



    Cheers!
    You were very helpful.

    You made my day!
    👍

  • Lil_Stu07Lil_Stu07

    @pmartini said:

    Cheers!
    You were very helpful.

    You made my day!
    👍

    Anytime! Enjoy.

  • PeteSasqwaxPeteSasqwax

    @mhc0 said:

    Loaded it up with electronic percussive sounds and triggered with Turing Machine & Collider for maximum.

    What do you mean by Turing Machine & Collider ?

    I used both the Turing Machine Mozaic script and Collider from the Rozeta suite to send MIDI data to Drumkit at the same time

  • mhc0mhc0

    @PeteSasqwax said:

    @mhc0 said:

    Loaded it up with electronic percussive sounds and triggered with Turing Machine & Collider for maximum.

    What do you mean by Turing Machine & Collider ?

    I used both the Turing Machine Mozaic script and Collider from the Rozeta suite to send MIDI data to Drumkit at the same time

    Oh Thanks! Love your track !

  • PeteSasqwaxPeteSasqwax

    Thank you!

  • wimwim

    @tahiche said:
    I’d like to save kit pieces. Say you make a LowTom you like and want to reuse in another kit. I’d rather have presets for snares, kicks, hihats, etc than whole kits. And I mean kit pieces, not only samples.

    This. Definitely.

  • audiobussyaudiobussy

    @wim said:

    @tahiche said:
    I’d like to save kit pieces. Say you make a LowTom you like and want to reuse in another kit. I’d rather have presets for snares, kicks, hihats, etc than whole kits. And I mean kit pieces, not only samples.

    This. Definitely.

    2x

  • wimwim
    edited June 2021

    A word of caution: Last night I had two presets go wonky on me. I created them in the standalone using imported samples. When I opened it in the AU it had somehow lost track of the samples used. The sample name was displayed as " - empty - " but on some pads it was playing a sample I hadn't selected and on others silence.

    I relocated the samples and loaded them in the AU. But it was still playing the wrong sample. It was playing the first sample in the folder, not the one selected, and not at the right speed. I finally tried substituting a different sample, then going back to the right sample. That seemed to make it re-read the sample. I then saved the preset from the AU and it now works as it should.

    I'm sure this is a bug. I'll get around to reporting it soon, but wanted to put out the caution here. I think if you avoid creating presets in the standalone this can be avoided, but I'm not sure.

  • OboObo

    @NoiseFloored said:

    @Bon_Tempi said:

    @NoiseFloored said:

    @Obo said:
    Anyone have a drambo setup they’d be willing to share? I’m slow, I’ve only found how to set up 8 channels but everything defaults to c3 so I just have 8 bass drums - lol

    I extended my 8-track sequencer for Ruismaker to 16 tracks here: https://patchstorage.com/general-midi-sequencer-16-tracks/
    You don't have to find the right MIDI key because each track is forced to output a specific note starting from C1, so it should trigger each Drumkit pad. Let me know if you need any help.

    Hi Noise Floored - looks great -

    Can you also post this as a rack - so that I can save it to my processors racks?

    Or - how do I save such a project as yours as a rack by myself?

    This was never clear to me ...

    You mean with this Drambo sequencer hosted as AU within Drambo itself? I would do this:

    • In Drambo host, insert an Audio Unit MIDI processor module with Drambo AU
    • In Drambo AU, open the project I shared
    • In Drambo host, save a preset for the module a name it whatever you want
    • In the future, you just have to insert an AU MIDI processor module and choose the preset you saved.

    Does this help?

    Just to clarify, we won’t be running Drambo through another host (AUM, etc)? Or do we run two instances of drambo within AUM? One as Midi and one as AU?

    Guess I just need to see where everything goes to get it. Anyone have a rocking new drum pattern they’re itching to show off? Lol

  • NoiseFlooredNoiseFloored

    @Obo said:

    @NoiseFloored said:

    @Bon_Tempi said:

    @NoiseFloored said:

    @Obo said:
    Anyone have a drambo setup they’d be willing to share? I’m slow, I’ve only found how to set up 8 channels but everything defaults to c3 so I just have 8 bass drums - lol

    I extended my 8-track sequencer for Ruismaker to 16 tracks here: https://patchstorage.com/general-midi-sequencer-16-tracks/
    You don't have to find the right MIDI key because each track is forced to output a specific note starting from C1, so it should trigger each Drumkit pad. Let me know if you need any help.

    Hi Noise Floored - looks great -

    Can you also post this as a rack - so that I can save it to my processors racks?

    Or - how do I save such a project as yours as a rack by myself?

    This was never clear to me ...

    You mean with this Drambo sequencer hosted as AU within Drambo itself? I would do this:

    • In Drambo host, insert an Audio Unit MIDI processor module with Drambo AU
    • In Drambo AU, open the project I shared
    • In Drambo host, save a preset for the module a name it whatever you want
    • In the future, you just have to insert an AU MIDI processor module and choose the preset you saved.

    Does this help?

    Just to clarify, we won’t be running Drambo through another host (AUM, etc)? Or do we run two instances of drambo within AUM? One as Midi and one as AU?

    If you only want to have FAC Drumkit and Drambo sequencing it then Drambo standalone + AU Drumkit would be enough, but since it has 16 tracks it's gonna take up all of Drambo's channels (you can add more channels but it's hacky). The two alternatives I can think of are:

    1. Sequence Drumkit with a single Drambo track, which Drambo can definitely but it's inconvenient for editing (e.g. hits happening at the same time would show up as "chords")
    2. Instantiate Drambo AU with the project I shared and connect its output to Drumkit AU, then you edit the sequence in Drambo AU. You can do this in any host, AUM, Cubasis or even Drambo itself.

    I can shoot a video tonight if that helps.

  • gregsmithgregsmith
    edited June 2021

    @audiobussy said:

    @wim said:

    @tahiche said:
    I’d like to save kit pieces. Say you make a LowTom you like and want to reuse in another kit. I’d rather have presets for snares, kicks, hihats, etc than whole kits. And I mean kit pieces, not only samples.

    This. Definitely.

    2x

    Yes! It’d also be great if you could load a single drum from a full kit preset. I think you can do this in eg pulse and digistix if I remember correctly

  • MichaelMichael

    @gusgranite said:

    @gusgranite said:
    @Michael can we merge to this one please? https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/45565/fac-drumkit-released#latest

    Sorry I meant the other way round... this thread is the original. Thanks!

    Yep, done

  • Bon_TempiBon_Tempi

    @aleyas said:
    @Bon_Tempi I would save the project as a template. Then you can open that template anytime you want to sequence FAC Drumkit with Drambo. You could open the project as an AU in aum, or host it within Drambo itself. The project wouldn’t make sense as a rack, as that would take away the xox sequencing capabilities it exploits by using 16 tracks.

    @NoiseFloored this morning as I read this thread i made the same 16 track project as you, with number modules, before I realized you had uploaded one already 😂

    Thanks for the advice - the template way worked great .— ! )

  • david_2017david_2017

    I think this works like a charm together with ATOM2. It’s a wonderful back and forth relationship and with the midi out pads its really fun to hammer in some beats. I made some rap remix of mos def. love that snare sound

  • gregsmithgregsmith

    I’m very new to drum synthesis. Do you normally get pitch envelopes? This app makes them easy to understand and they make the sounds hugely tweakable. It’d be great if they were controllable by midi somehow.

  • OboObo

    @NoiseFloored said:

    @Obo said:

    @NoiseFloored said:

    @Bon_Tempi said:

    @NoiseFloored said:

    @Obo said:
    Anyone have a drambo setup they’d be willing to share? I’m slow, I’ve only found how to set up 8 channels but everything defaults to c3 so I just have 8 bass drums - lol

    I extended my 8-track sequencer for Ruismaker to 16 tracks here: https://patchstorage.com/general-midi-sequencer-16-tracks/
    You don't have to find the right MIDI key because each track is forced to output a specific note starting from C1, so it should trigger each Drumkit pad. Let me know if you need any help.

    Hi Noise Floored - looks great -

    Can you also post this as a rack - so that I can save it to my processors racks?

    Or - how do I save such a project as yours as a rack by myself?

    This was never clear to me ...

    You mean with this Drambo sequencer hosted as AU within Drambo itself? I would do this:

    • In Drambo host, insert an Audio Unit MIDI processor module with Drambo AU
    • In Drambo AU, open the project I shared
    • In Drambo host, save a preset for the module a name it whatever you want
    • In the future, you just have to insert an AU MIDI processor module and choose the preset you saved.

    Does this help?

    Just to clarify, we won’t be running Drambo through another host (AUM, etc)? Or do we run two instances of drambo within AUM? One as Midi and one as AU?

    If you only want to have FAC Drumkit and Drambo sequencing it then Drambo standalone + AU Drumkit would be enough, but since it has 16 tracks it's gonna take up all of Drambo's channels (you can add more channels but it's hacky). The two alternatives I can think of are:

    1. Sequence Drumkit with a single Drambo track, which Drambo can definitely but it's inconvenient for editing (e.g. hits happening at the same time would show up as "chords")
    2. Instantiate Drambo AU with the project I shared and connect its output to Drumkit AU, then you edit the sequence in Drambo AU. You can do this in any host, AUM, Cubasis or even Drambo itself.

    I can shoot a video tonight if that helps.

    Thanks. Final question and I think we got this. What is drum kit Au? Is this a 3rd party app you’re referencing or is this an iteration of Drambo somehow?

    Thanks again for the help!

  • OboObo
    edited June 2021

    @Obo said:

    @NoiseFloored said:

    @Obo said:

    @NoiseFloored said:

    @Bon_Tempi said:

    @NoiseFloored said:

    @Obo said:
    Anyone have a drambo setup they’d be willing to share? I’m slow, I’ve only found how to set up 8 channels but everything defaults to c3 so I just have 8 bass drums - lol

    I extended my 8-track sequencer for Ruismaker to 16 tracks here: https://patchstorage.com/general-midi-sequencer-16-tracks/
    You don't have to find the right MIDI key because each track is forced to output a specific note starting from C1, so it should trigger each Drumkit pad. Let me know if you need any help.

    Hi Noise Floored - looks great -

    Can you also post this as a rack - so that I can save it to my processors racks?

    Or - how do I save such a project as yours as a rack by myself?

    This was never clear to me ...

    You mean with this Drambo sequencer hosted as AU within Drambo itself? I would do this:

    • In Drambo host, insert an Audio Unit MIDI processor module with Drambo AU
    • In Drambo AU, open the project I shared
    • In Drambo host, save a preset for the module a name it whatever you want
    • In the future, you just have to insert an AU MIDI processor module and choose the preset you saved.

    Does this help?

    Just to clarify, we won’t be running Drambo through another host (AUM, etc)? Or do we run two instances of drambo within AUM? One as Midi and one as AU?

    If you only want to have FAC Drumkit and Drambo sequencing it then Drambo standalone + AU Drumkit would be enough, but since it has 16 tracks it's gonna take up all of Drambo's channels (you can add more channels but it's hacky). The two alternatives I can think of are:

    1. Sequence Drumkit with a single Drambo track, which Drambo can definitely but it's inconvenient for editing (e.g. hits happening at the same time would show up as "chords")
    2. Instantiate Drambo AU with the project I shared and connect its output to Drumkit AU, then you edit the sequence in Drambo AU. You can do this in any host, AUM, Cubasis or even Drambo itself.

    I can shoot a video tonight if that helps.

    Thanks. Final question and I think we got this. What is drum kit Au? Is this a 3rd party app you’re referencing or is this an iteration of Drambo somehow?

    Thanks again for the help!

    Umm… edit. Ignore me, you were referencing the app we all have been discussing! Forgot that was what it’s called! 🤣

    And… I’m up and running! Think I must have been trying to do this from Drambo midi prior. Thanks again!

  • NoiseFlooredNoiseFloored

    @Obo said:

    @Obo said:

    @NoiseFloored said:

    @Obo said:

    @NoiseFloored said:

    @Bon_Tempi said:

    @NoiseFloored said:

    @Obo said:
    Anyone have a drambo setup they’d be willing to share? I’m slow, I’ve only found how to set up 8 channels but everything defaults to c3 so I just have 8 bass drums - lol

    I extended my 8-track sequencer for Ruismaker to 16 tracks here: https://patchstorage.com/general-midi-sequencer-16-tracks/
    You don't have to find the right MIDI key because each track is forced to output a specific note starting from C1, so it should trigger each Drumkit pad. Let me know if you need any help.

    Hi Noise Floored - looks great -

    Can you also post this as a rack - so that I can save it to my processors racks?

    Or - how do I save such a project as yours as a rack by myself?

    This was never clear to me ...

    You mean with this Drambo sequencer hosted as AU within Drambo itself? I would do this:

    • In Drambo host, insert an Audio Unit MIDI processor module with Drambo AU
    • In Drambo AU, open the project I shared
    • In Drambo host, save a preset for the module a name it whatever you want
    • In the future, you just have to insert an AU MIDI processor module and choose the preset you saved.

    Does this help?

    Just to clarify, we won’t be running Drambo through another host (AUM, etc)? Or do we run two instances of drambo within AUM? One as Midi and one as AU?

    If you only want to have FAC Drumkit and Drambo sequencing it then Drambo standalone + AU Drumkit would be enough, but since it has 16 tracks it's gonna take up all of Drambo's channels (you can add more channels but it's hacky). The two alternatives I can think of are:

    1. Sequence Drumkit with a single Drambo track, which Drambo can definitely but it's inconvenient for editing (e.g. hits happening at the same time would show up as "chords")
    2. Instantiate Drambo AU with the project I shared and connect its output to Drumkit AU, then you edit the sequence in Drambo AU. You can do this in any host, AUM, Cubasis or even Drambo itself.

    I can shoot a video tonight if that helps.

    Thanks. Final question and I think we got this. What is drum kit Au? Is this a 3rd party app you’re referencing or is this an iteration of Drambo somehow?

    Thanks again for the help!

    Umm… edit. Ignore me, you were referencing the app we all have been discussing! Forgot that was what it’s called! 🤣

    Oh my, I had to scroll up and check the name of the thread, for a second I thought I was giving advice for the wrong thing all along 😂

  • gusgranitegusgranite

    @Michael said:

    @gusgranite said:

    @gusgranite said:
    @Michael can we merge to this one please? https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/45565/fac-drumkit-released#latest

    Sorry I meant the other way round... this thread is the original. Thanks!

    Yep, done

    Cheers!

  • FingolfinzzFingolfinzz

    Really great work on this, I’m loving using this to design kits. Now we need a FAC synth to go along with it :)

  • tahichetahiche

    Any kits to share?. Gimme gimme 😀

  • tahichetahiche

    Me again…
    What sequencer would you recommend to go with DrumKit?. It’s got to be a drum specific step sequencer, I can’t stand piano roll for drums.
    Before you jump and say Drambo… yes it’s great and can do it all. BUT simple stuff like setting velocity is not too accesible. You have to go in the step mode editor, bla bla… it’s not a fast workflow
    So I’m looking at Octachron and MidiDreams (MidiDrums) which seem quite straightforward and with good features. Although I have to say Zenbeats sequencer seems like it has more features (velocity randomness or jitter as they call it). But Zenbeats sequencer is obviously just for Zenbeats (duh) and unbelievably it doesn’t have probability…
    So which one?. Fast and with the most options for racheting, randomness, offset, etc, etc… Oh and live recording finger drumming.
    Cheers!

  • OuttramOuttram

    I really like

    https://apps.apple.com/au/app/lk-for-ableton-live-midi/id944972221

    They don’t have a FAC drum setup yet but you could modify a DrumComputer layout I’m sure. It’s a very flexible app.

  • wimwim
    edited June 2021

    midiDreams is my go-to for quick drum sequencing, but fails on the other points you mentioned @tahiche.

    EG Pulse, maybe but the real problem with that one is the pattern length limitation. You have to string together patterns.

    Maybe Digistix? I don't know if it has midi out though.

  • sharifkerbagesharifkerbage

    @wim said:
    midiDreams is my go-to for quick drum sequencing, but fails on the other points you mentioned @tahiche.

    EG Pulse, maybe but the real problem with that one is the pattern length limitation. You have to string together patterns.

    Maybe Digistix? I don't know if it has midi out though.

    Yes, Digistix has midi out.. but i got a crash a couple of days ago using it to control Ting, haven't tried it yet with FAC.

  • oat_phippsoat_phipps

    Atom 2 is the best if you’re using more than 8 instruments.

  • tahichetahiche
    edited June 2021

    I love LK but both LK and Atom use piano rolls.
    Forgot about DigiStix, it seems to offer the same controllers (velocity, pitch, pan, probability), but the UI is not too pleasing with the small dots.
    Seems to be one of those cases where I wish I could do a Frankenstein. Drambo and Zenbeats seem to have the most possibilities, randomizing velocity being very important to me, but they have the mentioned weaknesses.
    Octachron has that “row length” feature to make it into a sort of Euclidean… plus a really cool logo, might go with it. Thanks for the advices!
    Wait… headed over to the AppStore and seeing the screenshots it seems like MidiDreams and Octachron don’t have a record feature. Is that the case?. You can’t finger drum into them?

  • israeliteisraelite

    @Fingolfinzz said:
    Really great work on this, I’m loving using this to design kits. Now we need a FAC synth to go along with it :)

    There are more synths out there than we can use, but if FAC would create one, I would get it :joy:

  • oat_phippsoat_phipps

    @FredAntonCorvest

    I would’ve emailed you but couldn’t find an address on your site. Sorry, don’t use Facebook or that stuff.

    I believe FAC Drumkit may have a timing problem. When sequencing it with Atom 2, there will be an intermittent gap in the repeating pattern every 30secs-1min or so. I’ve tested with both of the Ruismaker drum apps and they are rock solid with Atom 2 (even switching the apps with the transport control running. Switching back to Drumkit immediately brought back the gap). Hope you can find a quick fix.

  • sigma79sigma79
    edited June 2021

    Elastic drums could finger drum? Record. Then be multi out.

    if Fac pads are best. What is needed for this app to send out midi like a launchpad per pad and be sequenced ( multi out a bonus )

    I probably wont buy a launchpad x but found finger drumming cool from even hexglyphics on an ipad mini. Ipad mini seems cool for drums and a masterpiece of an ipad. So are there any good finger drum pad apps ( including fac pads ) which I assume are good. Dont think Id invest in an x and selling gear to make space, without practicing with an app. Which Id expect to be better than a launchpad mini.

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