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Atom | Piano Roll 2 is now available

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  • @eross said:
    is there a way to midi learn the launch control button, or is the only way to assign a specific note number to launch control in the app?

    Long press launch button and set note trigger with thru input off, or use parameter learn in AUM and tap the launch button.

  • Here's a video of a quick 90's DnB Launchpad Livejam I created with Atom 2.

    Unfortunately I don't have the rigging to set up an overhead video of me tapping the Launchpad, so this explanation photo will have to do for now..

  • @tk32 said:
    Here's a video of a quick 90's DnB Launchpad Livejam I created with Atom 2.

    Unfortunately I don't have the rigging to set up an overhead video of me tapping the Launchpad, so this explanation photo will have to do for now..

    This takes me back! I’ll have to give Drambo a go at handling my samples. Is it a single Drambo instance?

    @blueveek is this that tasty dnb you were talking about? 😂

  • edited March 2021

    Thanks @gregsmith

    Yes- single Drambo instance with sliced Amen on track 1 (listening to MIDI ch1), sliced hot pants break on track 2 (listening to ch2), and the vocal sample on track 3 (listening to ch3).

    I'm happy to give a break down of how I set it up.

    Must add that this is a slightly unconventional setup, as I have not created any 'scenes' for my launchpad, and I am instead mixing and matching clips on the fly.

    But it just goes to show how flexible a modular approach like Atom2 can be.

  • @zah said:
    Is there a manual for this anywhere? I went to audioveek website, but it only shows the first atom.

    It’s coming. This was an early release by request of the forum so supporting material still being worked on.

    Ask here though!

  • @gusgranite said:

    @zah said:
    Is there a manual for this anywhere? I went to audioveek website, but it only shows the first atom.

    It’s coming. This was an early release by request of the forum so supporting material still being worked on.

    Ask here though!

    There is some helpful information in the wiki. The community is welcome to add to it to help others out:

    https://wiki.audiob.us/doku.php?id=atom_piano_roll_2

  • edited March 2021

    It‘s probably some setting I don‘t understand, but I have this weird behavior with my Launchpad Pro MK3:

    I successfully recorded a clip in one instance of ATOM. The instance is receiving and sending to channel 10 only (set up in AUM and ATOM). Its playing an instance of Ruismaker FM and I can trigger it as expected via session mode.

    I then have another instance thats set to receive and send to channel 6. It‘s aimed at Model D. Here I am playing around with the Sequencer on the Launchpad just triggering notes on the lower part. So the sequencer is not actually running. But everytime I press D2 (MIDI note 51) the launched clip in the first instance stops. 😮
    Every connection from the launchpad to the first ATOM clip is deactivated. So it shouldn‘t receive anything from there and even if it would receive anything why would it stopp my clip. 🤔

    I can post screenshots if something is unclear. Any help appreciated.

    Also the LPPMK3 is constantly sending a system message out. It’s „cable #0 0xF8 0x1 0xFF“. Is that a normal behavior? Never noticed that before.

    Edit: I just realized, it‘s not just note 51. Seems totally random.

  • Yes. I've actually been helping Blueveek with the manual today.

    It's coming 'very' soon.

  • @tk32 said:
    Thanks @gregsmith

    Yes- single Drambo instance with sliced Amen on track 1 (listening to MIDI ch1), sliced hot pants break on track 2 (listening to ch2), and the vocal sample on track 3 (listening to ch3).

    I'm happy to give a break down of how I set it up.

    Thanks for the explanation. Will have a play with it.

    Must add that this is a slightly unconventional setup, as I have not created any 'scenes' for my launchpad, and I am instead mixing and matching clips on the fly.

    But it just goes to show how flexible a modular approach like Atom2 can be.

    This is something I didn’t foresee when I was envisaging how atom2 would fit into my workflow. Since it came out I’ve gone back to starting every AUM session with a few atom2 instances which was always the quickest way to get some sounds and loops together with atom1.

    After that you can just hook up the Launchpad and ‘perform’ with the clips to see what happens and comes out, creating variations as required. The launchpad isn’t required of course but is obviously more fun!

    Then armed with your bank of atom2 clips, you can get LK involved and use it to arrange the clips into a song, or record out stems from your performance and move to cubasis for arrangement, or output into koala to cut up and remix - whatever you like really!

    This flexibility is very exciting and atom2 was the key to unlock it all.

  • @Artvarg said:
    Also the LPPMK3 is constantly sending a system message out. It’s „cable #0 0xF8 0x1 0xFF“. Is that a normal behavior? Never noticed that before.

    That is a midi clock message. Evidently the LPPMK3 is configured to send midi clock.

  • @zah

    Yes. It will be available in PDF format. ;)

  • edited March 2021

    @Artvarg said:
    It‘s probably some setting I don‘t understand, but I have this weird behavior with my Launchpad Pro MK3:

    I can post screenshots if something is unclear. Any help appreciated.

    A few questions: Does the session button light up? How does your routing matrix look like? Did you read my “Controllers” info in my first post on this thread?

    Also the LPPMK3 is constantly sending a system message out. It’s „cable #0 0xF8 0x1 0xFF“. Is that a normal behavior? Never noticed that before.

    Sounds like you’re monitoring the DAW in and out ports. Those are private and not intended by Novation to be used in your routing.

    Edit: I just realized, it‘s not just note 51. Seems totally random.

    Clock :) I sure hope it ain’t random.

  • @blueveek said:

    @Artvarg said:
    It‘s probably some setting I don‘t understand, but I have this weird behavior with my Launchpad Pro MK3:

    I can post screenshots if something is unclear. Any help appreciated.

    A few questions: Does the session button light up? How does your routing matrix look like? Did you read my “Controllers” info in my first post on this thread?

    Also the LPPMK3 is constantly sending a system message out. It’s „cable #0 0xF8 0x1 0xFF“. Is that a normal behavior? Never noticed that before.

    Sounds like you’re monitoring the DAW in and out ports. Those are private and not intended by Novation to be used in your routing.

    Edit: I just realized, it‘s not just note 51. Seems totally random.

    Clock :) I sure hope it ain’t random.

    So I reread your first post and set up a new session trying to fiddle around with the routing as little as possible. Here is what I came up with:

    I can replicate the behavior I described above. It seems to be multiple notes that untrigger the running clip. The session button is lit. I can trigger the clips with the launchpad without problems.

    And as you can see from the routing, the strange message is coming from the MIDI port. 🧐

    Also kudos for your incredibly fast response. How do you manage to code while being so active on the forum? Are there two @blueveek or are you actually a transdimasional entity with a direct brain to computer interface?

  • edited March 2021

    @Artvarg you only need to route your launchpad into Atom2 if you are planning to live record MIDI notes into them (e.g. using the notes view on the launchpad).

    If fact, you don’t even strictly need to do this either, since when an Atom window is open, it has an auto-routing option that records the notes from your launchpad.

    If you’re only using the launchpad to launch clips you don’t need to do any routing into Atom, as this connection is managed auto-magically.

    Hopefully the upcoming manual will do a better job of explaining the above (which I only wrote in haste).

  • @tk32 said:
    @Artvarg you only need to route your launchpad into Atom2 if you are planning to live record MIDI notes into them (e.g. using the notes view on the launchpad).

    If fact, you don’t even strictly need to do this either, since when an Atom window is open, it has an auto-routing option that records the notes from your launchpad.

    If you’re only using the launchpad to launch clips you don’t need to do any routing into Atom, as this connection is managed auto-magically.

    Hopefully the upcoming manual will do a better job of explaining the above (which I only wrote in haste).

    Yeah, that’s what I concluded from @blueveeks first post. But the workflow I‘m aiming for is sequencing with the LPPMK3 and recording it into different clips. The LP sequencer has four tracks which I want to record and play back independently. The only way that seemed to work was routing the MIDI Port to ATOM and setting every channel manually in AUM.

    Btw. I struggled to do this in LK too because of some timing issues with LK and the launchpad sequencer.

  • wimwim
    edited March 2021

    @Artvarg said:
    And as you can see from the routing, the strange message is coming from the MIDI port. 🧐

    If it's the 0xF8 message you mentioned before, it's not a strange message. It's a standard MIDI Clock message. Somehow the LP is set to send MIDI clock. Disable that and the message will go away.

  • Understood.

    Blueveek will be in a better position to advise because he also has the pro mk3.

    I only have an Launchpad X

  • Has anyone tried to launch atom clips with the novation circuit? I know it isn’t the launchpad LOL but it is ... Novation 😎

  • @giku_beepstreet said:

    @echoopera said:

    @blueveek said:

    @Connor said:

    @echoopera said:
    @blueveek really enjoying Atom 2 but i am experiencing quite a few crashes when using multiple instances to drive 3 or more synths in Drambo.

    Could you and @giku_beepstreet sync up to look in to this. Atom2 fails to load after it crashes in Drambo and i am unable to recover the file. Let me know if there’s anything i can provide to assist in this issue.

    Thanks. 👊🏼™️

    Ditto + more AU UI issues in Drambo too unfortunately. Missing buttons/options, no vertical scroll, horizontal menu can’t scroll 😕

    This is very bizarre and since it works fine in other hosts, indicative of Drambo doing some funky business with how input events are sent to the plugin.

    FWIW, i tracked down the bug. If i copy and paste a Rack with Atom2 and Korg Module Pro to a new track in Drambo, Atom 2 crashes and refuses to initialize and the instance is forever corrupt on any Saved file that had it running before the crash occurred.

    I posted a video here showing the issue. Looks like i can’t use Module Pro with Atom 2 inside of Drambo for the time being.

    I hope the video helps @blueveek @giku_beepstreet as it demonstrates a repeatable issue you can hopefully instrument.

    Video:

    Thank you. I repeated this. Internal deadlock in iOS while instantiating many audio units at the same time (allowed in specs), but only when Atom is among them.. Digging

    Many thanks @giku_beepstreet @blueveek

  • Am I missing something or can we no longer preview notes with the piano keys in atom itself? I can preview notes with the pencil tool, but I want to be able to do it like I could in Atom v1.

  • @slicetwo said:
    Am I missing something or can we no longer preview notes with the piano keys in atom itself? I can preview notes with the pencil tool, but I want to be able to do it like I could in Atom v1.

    No. But it has been requested.

  • @Artvarg said:

    @tk32 said:
    @Artvarg you only need to route your launchpad into Atom2 if you are planning to live record MIDI notes into them (e.g. using the notes view on the launchpad).

    If fact, you don’t even strictly need to do this either, since when an Atom window is open, it has an auto-routing option that records the notes from your launchpad.

    If you’re only using the launchpad to launch clips you don’t need to do any routing into Atom, as this connection is managed auto-magically.

    Hopefully the upcoming manual will do a better job of explaining the above (which I only wrote in haste).

    Yeah, that’s what I concluded from @blueveeks first post. But the workflow I‘m aiming for is sequencing with the LPPMK3 and recording it into different clips. The LP sequencer has four tracks which I want to record and play back independently. The only way that seemed to work was routing the MIDI Port to ATOM and setting every channel manually in AUM.

    Btw. I struggled to do this in LK too because of some timing issues with LK and the launchpad sequencer.

    Thanks for this, I now know what's going on. Atom 2 was interpreting the Pro's sequencer notes as pad presses while in Session mode. It's fixed in the latest beta, want to join to test?

  • @slicetwo said:
    Am I missing something or can we no longer preview notes with the piano keys in atom itself? I can preview notes with the pencil tool, but I want to be able to do it like I could in Atom v1.

    It's a very simple addition, should only take a minute. I'll prioritize it for the 2.0.3 update.

  • I’ve just bought Atom 2 and I’m having a great time exploring its possibilities. I’ve tried to read through the the many pages of this thread, but there’s one thing I still can’t figure out:

    If I load up 3 “atoms” in one midi channel on AUM (so, same track, different slots), how do I set it up, so that every time I launch a specific slot in this row, any other slot will un-launch automatically?

    I use an AKAI MPD226 as my main midi controller.

  • edited March 2021

    @galmandsværk

    'Track choking' —which is how we refer to it on the beta team, and what you are describing above— is currently only possible with a compatible Launchpad controller.

    However.. there are already plans to make it the default behaviour for on-screen launching too, and Blueveek is keen to add this in an upcoming update (though I shouldn't make any promises on his behalf... he is juggling so many feature requests right now that it's unreal!!).

    An alternative solution is for someone on this forum to write a hardware integration script for the Akai MPD226.

    Hope this helps

  • edited March 2021

    @galmandsværk said:
    I’ve just bought Atom 2 and I’m having a great time exploring its possibilities. I’ve tried to read through the the many pages of this thread, but there’s one thing I still can’t figure out:

    If I load up 3 “atoms” in one midi channel on AUM (so, same track, different slots), how do I set it up, so that every time I launch a specific slot in this row, any other slot will un-launch automatically?

    I use an AKAI MPD226 as my main midi controller.

    Just to add to what @tk32 wrote, the main issue is that most AUM users are accustomed to the launch parameter being additive instead of "chokative" (I made this word up). At the same time, most Launchpad users are used to track exclusivity and choking. I'd like to have an option for toggling between the two modes, but I'm not sure where to put it and whether it should affect both at the same time.

    So, track choking is currently only automatic when using the scripted controllers (all Launchpad Mk3s). Your options are:

    • (hard) Write a custom script for your controller.
    • (hack) Assign a note trigger to each one of the Atoms. If possible, make your pads emit "chords" instead of single notes, so a pad contains all the notes to both launch and unlaunch individual Atoms. Use "Launchpad" mode in the launch options (long press Launch button).
    • (easy) Wait for an update :)
  • @blueveek said:

    @Artvarg said:

    @tk32 said:
    @Artvarg you only need to route your launchpad into Atom2 if you are planning to live record MIDI notes into them (e.g. using the notes view on the launchpad).

    If fact, you don’t even strictly need to do this either, since when an Atom window is open, it has an auto-routing option that records the notes from your launchpad.

    If you’re only using the launchpad to launch clips you don’t need to do any routing into Atom, as this connection is managed auto-magically.

    Hopefully the upcoming manual will do a better job of explaining the above (which I only wrote in haste).

    Yeah, that’s what I concluded from @blueveeks first post. But the workflow I‘m aiming for is sequencing with the LPPMK3 and recording it into different clips. The LP sequencer has four tracks which I want to record and play back independently. The only way that seemed to work was routing the MIDI Port to ATOM and setting every channel manually in AUM.

    Btw. I struggled to do this in LK too because of some timing issues with LK and the launchpad sequencer.

    Thanks for this, I now know what's going on. Atom 2 was interpreting the Pro's sequencer notes as pad presses while in Session mode. It's fixed in the latest beta, want to join to test?

    Sure, but don’t expect too much from me. I don’t know how much time I‘ll find for music making in the coming weeks. 😐
    I‘ll dm you my TestFlight later.

  • Atom 2 and chord progressions made me dig out a few apps from the iOS vaults. Exporting from Chordbot can lead to some complex arrangements.

  • Organizing clips in AUM and BeatMaker 3.

    Check it out at 2:48!

  • @blueveek said:
    Organizing clips in AUM and BeatMaker 3.

    Check it out at 2:48!

    Very handy tips thankyou.

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