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  • JessieJessie

    @boberto said:

    @Jessie said:

    @dakti said:
    @Jessie What in your opinion is the best solution to exchange our own presets between each other Tonestack / Tonestack PRO users? I can ask Patchstorage service to create tab for Tonestack, but I would like to consult with you first. Maybe you have other plans like a) add possibility to exchange presets directly inside the app (like in Jamup) in next updates b) your own service outside the Tonestack app c) dedicated tab on Yonac www d) etc. Thanks in advance for advice should I contact Patchstorage or you prefer another approach to the topic.

    I'll take a look at Patchstorage. Yeah we spent a crazy amount of time trying to do something for patch sharing before, and it didn't work out.

    @Jessie said:

    @dakti said:
    @Jessie What in your opinion is the best solution to exchange our own presets between each other Tonestack / Tonestack PRO users? I can ask Patchstorage service to create tab for Tonestack, but I would like to consult with you first. Maybe you have other plans like a) add possibility to exchange presets directly inside the app (like in Jamup) in next updates b) your own service outside the Tonestack app c) dedicated tab on Yonac www d) etc. Thanks in advance for advice should I contact Patchstorage or you prefer another approach to the topic.

    I'll take a look at Patchstorage. Yeah we spent a crazy amount of time trying to do something for patch sharing before, and it didn't work out.

    I mean, it’s as simple as trying to get enough votes after clicking the “make a request “ in the user menu.

    There really should be a prize for finding that website menu.

    @dakti said:

    @boberto said:

    @Jessie said:

    @dakti said:
    @Jessie What in your opinion is the best solution to exchange our own presets between each other Tonestack / Tonestack PRO users? I can ask Patchstorage service to create tab for Tonestack, but I would like to consult with you first. Maybe you have other plans like a) add possibility to exchange presets directly inside the app (like in Jamup) in next updates b) your own service outside the Tonestack app c) dedicated tab on Yonac www d) etc. Thanks in advance for advice should I contact Patchstorage or you prefer another approach to the topic.

    I'll take a look at Patchstorage. Yeah we spent a crazy amount of time trying to do something for patch sharing before, and it didn't work out.

    @Jessie said:

    @dakti said:
    @Jessie What in your opinion is the best solution to exchange our own presets between each other Tonestack / Tonestack PRO users? I can ask Patchstorage service to create tab for Tonestack, but I would like to consult with you first. Maybe you have other plans like a) add possibility to exchange presets directly inside the app (like in Jamup) in next updates b) your own service outside the Tonestack app c) dedicated tab on Yonac www d) etc. Thanks in advance for advice should I contact Patchstorage or you prefer another approach to the topic.

    I'll take a look at Patchstorage. Yeah we spent a crazy amount of time trying to do something for patch sharing before, and it didn't work out.

    I mean, it’s as simple as trying to get enough votes after clicking the “make a request “ in the user menu.

    @boberto Thank you. I just checked it. A new platform request proposal:

    • Platform name: Tonestack PRO
    • Platform homepage: http://www.yonac.com/tonestackpro
    • Platform description: ToneStack PRO Guitar Amps & FX is UNIVERSAL app for signal processing with the LARGEST and BEST selection of AMPS & FX. Featuring next generation DSP and seamless AUv3 implementation. ToneStack is the go-to audio processing solution for both guitarists and producers. Presets are universal for both: ToneStack PRO and for older Tonestack app. More info at link
    • Platform file extensions: .tpat .tban
    • Additional comment: Presets are universal for both: ToneStack PRO and for older Tonestack app.
    • Platform image: (link to 428x428 png file)

    ^ In my opinion "ToneStack PRO Guitar Amps & FX" is to long name for Patchstorage, "ToneStack PRO" should be fine (some another names are also shortened).
    ^ Additional comment not appear on requested and aproved platform page so I duplicated content from "Additional comment" in "Platform description" at the end.

    On Patchstorage is warning: "Once you click 'Submit' you won't be able to make any changes". Should something be changed before sending request?

    Yeah, that all looks good, can you let me know if/when you submit?

  • daktidakti
    edited May 2021

    @Jessie said:

    @boberto said:

    @Jessie said:

    @dakti said:
    @Jessie What in your opinion is the best solution to exchange our own presets between each other Tonestack / Tonestack PRO users? I can ask Patchstorage service to create tab for Tonestack, but I would like to consult with you first. Maybe you have other plans like a) add possibility to exchange presets directly inside the app (like in Jamup) in next updates b) your own service outside the Tonestack app c) dedicated tab on Yonac www d) etc. Thanks in advance for advice should I contact Patchstorage or you prefer another approach to the topic.

    I'll take a look at Patchstorage. Yeah we spent a crazy amount of time trying to do something for patch sharing before, and it didn't work out.

    @Jessie said:

    @dakti said:
    @Jessie What in your opinion is the best solution to exchange our own presets between each other Tonestack / Tonestack PRO users? I can ask Patchstorage service to create tab for Tonestack, but I would like to consult with you first. Maybe you have other plans like a) add possibility to exchange presets directly inside the app (like in Jamup) in next updates b) your own service outside the Tonestack app c) dedicated tab on Yonac www d) etc. Thanks in advance for advice should I contact Patchstorage or you prefer another approach to the topic.

    I'll take a look at Patchstorage. Yeah we spent a crazy amount of time trying to do something for patch sharing before, and it didn't work out.

    I mean, it’s as simple as trying to get enough votes after clicking the “make a request “ in the user menu.

    There really should be a prize for finding that website menu.

    @dakti said:

    @boberto said:

    @Jessie said:

    @dakti said:
    @Jessie What in your opinion is the best solution to exchange our own presets between each other Tonestack / Tonestack PRO users? I can ask Patchstorage service to create tab for Tonestack, but I would like to consult with you first. Maybe you have other plans like a) add possibility to exchange presets directly inside the app (like in Jamup) in next updates b) your own service outside the Tonestack app c) dedicated tab on Yonac www d) etc. Thanks in advance for advice should I contact Patchstorage or you prefer another approach to the topic.

    I'll take a look at Patchstorage. Yeah we spent a crazy amount of time trying to do something for patch sharing before, and it didn't work out.

    @Jessie said:

    @dakti said:
    @Jessie What in your opinion is the best solution to exchange our own presets between each other Tonestack / Tonestack PRO users? I can ask Patchstorage service to create tab for Tonestack, but I would like to consult with you first. Maybe you have other plans like a) add possibility to exchange presets directly inside the app (like in Jamup) in next updates b) your own service outside the Tonestack app c) dedicated tab on Yonac www d) etc. Thanks in advance for advice should I contact Patchstorage or you prefer another approach to the topic.

    I'll take a look at Patchstorage. Yeah we spent a crazy amount of time trying to do something for patch sharing before, and it didn't work out.

    I mean, it’s as simple as trying to get enough votes after clicking the “make a request “ in the user menu.

    @boberto Thank you. I just checked it. A new platform request proposal:

    • Platform name: Tonestack PRO
    • Platform homepage: http://www.yonac.com/tonestackpro
    • Platform description: ToneStack PRO Guitar Amps & FX is UNIVERSAL app for signal processing with the LARGEST and BEST selection of AMPS & FX. Featuring next generation DSP and seamless AUv3 implementation. ToneStack is the go-to audio processing solution for both guitarists and producers. Presets are universal for both: ToneStack PRO and for older Tonestack app. More info at link
    • Platform file extensions: .tpat .tban
    • Additional comment: Presets are universal for both: ToneStack PRO and for older Tonestack app.
    • Platform image: (link to 428x428 png file)

    ^ In my opinion "ToneStack PRO Guitar Amps & FX" is to long name for Patchstorage, "ToneStack PRO" should be fine (some another names are also shortened).
    ^ Additional comment not appear on requested and aproved platform page so I duplicated content from "Additional comment" in "Platform description" at the end.

    On Patchstorage is warning: "Once you click 'Submit' you won't be able to make any changes". Should something be changed before sending request?

    Yeah, that all looks good, can you let me know if/when you submit?

    @Jessie Thank you for your confirmation :) The request is send.

    EVERYONE interested: Please start VOTING to add Tonestack PRO to Patchstorage database.

    Link: https://patchstorage.com/requests/tonestack-pro/

  • ExAsperis99ExAsperis99

    @Jessie
    Any idea how long the introductory sale for Tonestack Pro will last?

  • KeybKeyb

    Voted!

  • daktidakti
    edited May 2021

    @Keyb said:
    Voted!

    @Keyb Good man! Strength in the group :)

    Platform requests list:
    1. Moog Model D - 89 votes in 6 months
    2. Tonestack PRO - 46 votes in 1 day :p
    3. Ableton Live - 31 votes in 6 months
    4. Voltage Modular - 15 votes in 6 months
    5. Touchdesigner - 7 votes in 2 months
    6. Eventide H9 - 7 votes in 3 months
    7. Artiphon Orba - 5 votes in 4 months

    I don't know how many votes we need to get to succeed - I can't find the answer anywhere. But since Moog Model D has 88 and is still in the request section, maybe around 100 votes need to be obtained (?) I send that question to Patchsorage Team, let you know after receive answer.

  • GravitasGravitas

    @dakti

    Done.

  • daktidakti
    edited May 2021

    @Gravitas said:
    @dakti

    Done.

    @Gravitas Brilliant. Thanks to you Tonestack PRO is on 3th place now :)

  • tahichetahiche
    edited May 2021

    @dakti said:

    @Gravitas said:
    @dakti

    Done.

    @Gravitas Brilliant. Thanks to you Tonestack PRO is on 3th place now :)

    Voted!.
    Actually... I pressed a little heart button. I’m assuming that’s a vote?. Doesn’t seem to clear to me.

  • daktidakti
    edited May 2021

    @tahiche said:

    @dakti said:

    @Gravitas said:
    @dakti

    Done.

    @Gravitas Brilliant. Thanks to you Tonestack PRO is on 3th place now :)

    Voted!.
    Actually... I pressed a little heart button. I’m assuming that’s a vote?. Doesn’t seem to clear to me.

    @tahiche Exactly, heart ( <3 ) = vote, you did well :)

  • NeuMNeuM

    Voted!

  • LoopyFruitLoopyFruit

    Up to 28 with my vote, well done Gang 👍

  • TheVimFuegoTheVimFuego

    Vote 31 … Running 2nd.

  • JessieJessie

    @ExAsperis99 said:
    @Jessie
    Any idea how long the introductory sale for Tonestack Pro will last?

    Yes, it'll end on Sunday, May 9th.

  • ExAsperis99ExAsperis99

    Thanks, Jessie.

  • AlfredAlfred

    @Jessie Is there a way to make the au version of tonestack react to program change messages?

  • sharifkerbagesharifkerbage

    It would be absolutely awesome if we had the Tape Deck/inStudio section when opening as an AuV3.

  • jolicojolico

    @sharifkerbage said:
    It would be absolutely awesome if we had the Tape Deck/inStudio section when opening as an AuV3.

    What did you say???

    I’m already imagining it in AUM with inserts from 8 AUM tracks.

  • McDMcD
    edited May 2021

    @Gavinski said:
    Sorry if i missed this - is there a list of what is covered in the main purchase and what is in the IAP?

    The $5 buy-in gets you:

    10 Amps and my guesses at the modeled original:
    BluesOwl (Fender StageMaster?)
    Vintage Clean (Fender Bassman?)
    Modern Classic (?)
    Rockmaker (Marshall?)
    Cali One 800 (Boogie?)
    The Invasion (Vox)
    Vitamin C (Orange)
    Colossal Gain (Hi Watt)
    Antique Tube (Fender Champ?)
    Full Bassic (Ampeg?)

    10 matching cabs for above

    Stomps and FX
    3 Dynamics Noise Gate, Compressor, Rock Compressor
    7 OverDrive, Distortion, & Fuzz
    5 Filter, EQ, & Wah
    7 Modulations
    1 Pitch (Octaver)
    6 Delay & Reverb
    3 Dynamics
    2 Bass EQ and OverDrive
    A/B switcher

    Dynamics Noise Gate, Compressor, Rock Compressor

    The $19.99 IAP unlocks the whole suite of Amps (50+), matching Cabs and Stomps, FX'es (125)

    These prices are intro and they will move to a lot more expensive set of IAP's. This is to temper the frustration with re-purchase for longtime fans of the product.

    A big PLUS for me is the TapeDeck that can import music from iTunes or the file system for backing track practice or performing/busking.

    There's a multi-track recording app that has 2 free channels and 6 more to be purchased. I expect they come in the INTRO IAP but have NOT tested that assumption and I won't. I'm good with Amp Sim products and don't need the whole enchilada... just the $5 for clean and the TapeDeck.

  • sharifkerbagesharifkerbage

    @jolico said:

    @sharifkerbage said:
    It would be absolutely awesome if we had the Tape Deck/inStudio section when opening as an AuV3.

    What did you say???

    I’m already imagining it in AUM with inserts from 8 AUM tracks.

    yass, and (maybe going too far) with multi-out audio.

  • Paulo164Paulo164

    Sorry, I am very late on this discussion but is Tonestack Pro usefull for a non guitarist like me ?
    How does it compare to MixBox (type of content, sound quality, ...) ? It seems more guitar oriented but I am not sure at all.
    Thanks a lot !

  • NeuMNeuM

    @Paulo164 said:
    Sorry, I am very late on this discussion but is Tonestack Pro usefull for a non guitarist like me ?
    How does it compare to MixBox (type of content, sound quality, ...) ? It seems more guitar oriented but I am not sure at all.
    Thanks a lot !

    Speaking for myself, I use both MixBox and Tonestack on all kinds of sound sources, not just guitars. I think they’re both great.

  • JoyceRoadStudiosJoyceRoadStudios

    @McD said:

    @Gavinski said:
    Sorry if i missed this - is there a list of what is covered in the main purchase and what is in the IAP?

    The $5 buy-in gets you:

    10 Amps and my guesses at the modeled original:
    BluesOwl (Fender StageMaster?)
    Vintage Clean (Fender Bassman?)
    Modern Classic (?)
    Rockmaker (Marshall?)
    Cali One 800 (Boogie?)
    The Invasion (Vox)
    Vitamin C (Orange)
    Colossal Gain (Hi Watt)
    Antique Tube (Fender Champ?)
    Full Bassic (Ampeg?)

    10 matching cabs for above

    Stomps and FX
    3 Dynamics Noise Gate, Compressor, Rock Compressor
    7 OverDrive, Distortion, & Fuzz
    5 Filter, EQ, & Wah
    7 Modulations
    1 Pitch (Octaver)
    6 Delay & Reverb
    3 Dynamics
    2 Bass EQ and OverDrive
    A/B switcher

    Dynamics Noise Gate, Compressor, Rock Compressor

    The $19.99 IAP unlocks the whole suite of Amps (50+), matching Cabs and Stomps, FX'es (125)

    These prices are intro and they will move to a lot more expensive set of IAP's. This is to temper the frustration with re-purchase for longtime fans of the product.

    A big PLUS for me is the TapeDeck that can import music from iTunes or the file system for backing track practice or performing/busking.

    There's a multi-track recording app that has 2 free channels and 6 more to be purchased. I expect they come in the INTRO IAP but have NOT tested that assumption and I won't. I'm good with Amp Sim products and don't need the whole enchilada... just the $5 for clean and the TapeDeck.

    $5 no-brainer at this point, thanks for the details.

  • McDMcD
    edited May 2021

    Guitar Sims are engineered to the specs of a guitar speaker driver like a 12 inch Celestion driver.

    70-5000Hz

    If A3 is 440 Hz then 500hz is between A6 and A7

    times 2 is 880
    times 2 is 1760
    times 2 is 3520

    Near the tops notes of a piano I think. Easy for some deaf people to hear with enough volume. That's why deaf people love metal bands... they can dance just from the rhythm of the bass sound pressure waves.

    Show me a guitar amp with high frequency drivers. They don't want or need that content. They even hope the speaker cones will be less rigid and drive them with 110 Volt AC for hours to "warm" them up for live use. Kill those presky tone killing highs.

    In other words, electric guitars have almost no high end frequency content. They are mostly mid-range audio content. So, most stomp boxes are pure crap for a microphone or studio master bus effect.

    Most Amp Sim's (IMHO) are just awful compared to DDMF or any other recording studio based FX app. Mix Box is a suite of recording studio modules. ToneStack is a suite of guitar stomp boxes.

    If you like to destroy your audio for the artist effect... $5 or $25 is a good deal. $40 for MixBox is an engineers dream... the highs are pristine and beautifully detailed up into the 10K's or more where the essential details live that more audio sound convincing.

  • McDMcD

    @JoyceRoadStudios said:
    $5 no-brainer at this point, thanks for the details.

    No kidding right? You spend 4 times that much for a single Rig on TH-U.

    Any ol' iPhone that runs IOS 13 can run ToneStack Pro and you can glue it to your
    Strat and practice rocking out into headphones while you walk to through the dog park
    and no one will hear that you sound like shit but look so cool.

    Old iPhone $100 refurbed.
    Closed back headphones $50
    IK Multimedia iRig HD 2 $80
    Knock off Strat $200
    Gorilla Glue $5
    Guitar strap that works well $200 (do not skim on the strap to hold it to your body and deter thieves and do not glue the strap to your body... it's easy to loose large patches of skin)

    Total mobile guitar studio: $635.
    Guitar lessons: $50-100 each. Screw the lessons. Jam from your gut and watch YouTube.

    You too can be a local Guitar God in the eyes of the dog park dogs. Dog's like to chew on guitars so be careful.

  • Vip8888Vip8888

    @McD said:

    If A3 is 440 Hz then 500hz is between A6 and A7

    Sorry to be that guy, but I believe 440Hz is A4 rather than A3. :)
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A440_(pitch_standard)

    On topic, I personally think $5 is a no-brainer to see if you like it - I did like it so ended up buying the full IAP while at the intro price. I primarily play guitar, but found TS is also great fun when used for synths (caveat: I’m very much a hobbyist playing for fun at home with no ambitions to actually release anything).

  • McDMcD
    edited May 2021

    @Vip8888 said:

    @McD said:

    If A3 is 440 Hz then 500hz is between A6 and A7

    Sorry to be that guy, but I believe 440Hz is A4 rather than A3. :)

    You're not sorry. You're a Yamaha keyboard guy. Google it. The only Yamaha does for us is make great pianos our developers can sample. I hate those asshats and how they shit on IOS users. And now this...

    Of course I could be full of shit... I'll google the frequencies of the piano keys and see how bad it is. Still... 5000 Khz is shit poor audio fidelity which is my point. Stomp boxes are crap audio processors but they are a huge market for collectors. Trade 'em with your friends. Bigger than Beanie Babies and just as corrupt with fake goods.

  • McDMcD

    Aha!

    The piano has 88 keys which span the frequency range 27.5 Hz (A0) to 4186 Hz (C8).

    The defense rests its case, your honor. If the notes fit... you must acquit.

  • mojozartmojozart

    Seriously? The frequency of concert A is a matter of debate and conspiracy theories:

    https://globalnews.ca/news/4194106/440-hz-conspiracy-music/

    and there are at least 3 different numbering schemes for the octaves. One person's A-2 is another person's A0.

    What are we talking about? Oh yeah. Tonestack works with a wide range of instruments.

  • McDMcD

    @mojozart said:
    Seriously? The frequency of concert A is a matter of debate and conspiracy theories:

    https://globalnews.ca/news/4194106/440-hz-conspiracy-music/

    and there are at least 3 different numbering schemes for the octaves. One person's A-2 is another person's A0.

    What are we talking about? Oh yeah. Tonestack works with a wide range of instruments.

    To summarize... guitars tend to care about frequencies below 5000Hz.
    The A3 v A4 issue is a red herring and off topic.

    ToneStack and every other Amp Sim product doesn't reproduce a lot of upper end frequencies... or maybe they do and that's why TH-U kicks the others in their counter-point.

    Run Ravenscroft through and Amp Sim and tell me if you want a refund.
    Now... run it through MixBox CS. You should end up playing with the piano for a few hours.

    That's the point.

    MixBox CS good for anything.
    Amp Sim's good for guitars.

  • jolicojolico

    @McD said:

    @mojozart said:
    Seriously? The frequency of concert A is a matter of debate and conspiracy theories:

    https://globalnews.ca/news/4194106/440-hz-conspiracy-music/

    and there are at least 3 different numbering schemes for the octaves. One person's A-2 is another person's A0.

    What are we talking about? Oh yeah. Tonestack works with a wide range of instruments.

    To summarize... guitars tend to care about frequencies below 5000Hz.
    The A3 v A4 issue is a red herring and off topic.

    ToneStack and every other Amp Sim product doesn't reproduce a lot of upper end frequencies... or maybe they do and that's why TH-U kicks the others in their counter-point.

    Run Ravenscroft through and Amp Sim and tell me if you want a refund.
    Now... run it through MixBox CS. You should end up playing with the piano for a few hours.

    That's the point.

    MixBox CS good for anything.
    Amp Sim's good for guitars.

    Unfortunately mix box is only iPadOS

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