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I've attached the same .adg file made in kitmaker, one before and one after the save in Ableton. Hopefully they help you get to the bottom of the issue.
This is exactly how it works! Funny before I save it in live it’s like 1mb in size, and crashes the SitalaImporter, and after I save it in Live it’s like 69 kb in size! And after it save it in Live the importer works fine.
I just bought toolbox pro for this shortcut so don’t really know. It was the first shortcut I’ve ever made.
It has made me more inclined to make more shortcuts though and it does look like it adds a bunch of useful stuff.
Not sure about regex, sorry.
Interestingly, that file isn't compressed at all (most Live sets are just gzipped XML), and our importer doesn't account for non-compressed sets (honestly, I didn't know Live would accept them), so I assume that's where the problem is. (That also explains the size difference.) I'll take a closer look later.
Glad u were able to spot the issue! Is there some kind of batch way to compress them (or app) other than 1 by 1 with Ableton?
Can I ask here If sitala allow for program change kits?
Curently the only multiout sampler with support for program change is…. GR-16.
I wish Drambo allows for program change saved presets own racks, but Im looking what is possible now.
Wish AudioLayer to get multiout support. I feel developerski somehow limit samplers with program change/multiout together functionality, and I have no longer hardware sampler, wish solution on iPad to change rapidly clip in atom/LK together with program in SYNTH/sampler/effects.
Program change would be really nice to see! Subfolders in the ‘kits menu’ would be great also for those of us with a lot of kits
Yes, but I don't know of a GUI for such off the top of my head. On the command line you'd just run:
The first thing compreses it, the second renames it to maintain the .adg extension. But you shouldn't need to worry about that -- I'll try to throw together a fix for such in the next few days. This is actually part of why we didn't want to include this functionality in Sitala itself -- we knew that once the converter was out in the wild that we'd run across kits that it wasn't able to work with, and we'd have to do frequent updates for a while.
I can now drag and drop samples directly to the pads! Awesome!
Any chance of having a random button to go to a random sample inside a folder? For me swiping is un usable as it is
Randomization would be a lot of fun.
It doesn't at the moment, but we talked today in our planning meeting about adding a PC assignment to the "Save..." dialog, so it'll find its way in at some point.
Another thing we've talked about but haven't started working on yet: we'd probably do it by having different things you can sort files by (creation date, name, etc.) and having one of those modes be "random".
Thats even better! Because you could go back
Got this fixed today. I'll try to roll up a new release in the next couple days and will mention it here when it's live.
That’s great news!!!! Looking forward to it
Thank you. 128 programs is a lot, but sometimes instruments use MSB LSB BANK (cc 0 cc32) to achieve more programs under MIDI map). For example ZEBRA2 allows subfolders into MIDI PROGRAM patch list, and each subfolder correspond to number of CC0 Message before PC …. It is only a example. Could you consider using more than 128 MIDI mappable kits?
Why?
For example user created 150 different kits, some in jazz style, some in electronic, some in other, Best would be to have them separated in folders. And then by using sequencer with clips (I hope LK will somehow improove program change chandling - similar to Ableton live) that Send on fire PC to sampler - this way we change sequence and corresponding sampler kit…. I know everybody know this, but sometimes things must be said to be clear. Thanks
I just posted a new release of the converter which should work with KitMaker-created .adg files. Can you give it a try @ipadbeatmaking? I don't actually have KitMaker here, so I can just verify that it reads the file, but not that it successfully generates a working kit.
Sure!
On the 1st tests, It works!
@scotchi Would you consider adding SFZ support for the kit converter? Since it's xml based similar to Sitala, might be straightforward to add? 🙏
I have a bunch of kits that I've converted to SFZ from maschine expansions that I'd want to use as kits in Sitala.
Sitala is ballin’
Potentially at some point down the line, but probably not in the short term future. The main goal in the release was to have something for sample pack creators that already have kits in the popular formats so that they can easily convert kits that they intend to distribute. The converter's only had about 80 downloads (and a lot of those were people downloading updates after the first 1/2 versions), so unless significantly more interest in it materializes, we'll tend to prioritize working on other features.
@scotchi I’ve got over 1000 Sitala kits at this point thanks in large part to SitalaConverter! Only problem is that’s way to many for the user system as it is right now. Would it be possible to get a tree menu/sub folder menu system of some sort?
I love that with the sitalaconverter I can name the pack the kits are in, which allows a little bit of delineation to know what’s what, but I can’t ‘add kit to library’ because there’s no way to meaningfully organize them.
I understand a 1000+ Kits is an extreme case, but even 50-100 is a lot to not have sub folders for.
Also midi assignable ‘next kit’, ‘previous kit’ buttons would be really cool so that we can cycle thru kits easily with a midi controller.
Thanks 🙏
program change plus banlk cc0 and/or bank cc32 to support sub folders would be cool in the future
Would it be possible to change both attack AND decay instead of just one of those parameters? Loving sitala so far big time!
Makes sense, thanks Scotchi.
So I remember somebody saying that duplicate files on iOS don’t actually take up double the space. So does this mean that if we just make a copy of the whole audioshare folder and put it in files it also won’t take up any extra space? Re the problem that audioshare, as. File provider itself, cannot currently be browsed by apps like Sitala?
In theory It shouldn’t, this is how Apple File System works.
It points to the same data on the hard drive when you copy, only when you edit it, it creates a new file.
It'd be easy enough to check: check the amount of free space on the drive before and after exporting things from AudioShare.
I'm a little bit skeptical that it'd work the intended way since I expect that exporting things from AudioShare isn't a file-system level copy operation, but something that happens at a higher level of iOS, and I doubt it'd see the files as a copy of the originals, even if they have the same data.
The only problem is though, taking a look, that I don't think Audioshare is a 'folder' is it? So all you could do is copy its contents and put them into another folder in the files apps. Any new files you added to audioshare or any recordings in aum etc would need to be manually copied later into this other folder in Files. Sounds like a right headache. You can though drag files directly from audioshare into sitala from the files app in slide over mode which is pretty nice
Just circling back around with this…