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So you could drag a drum loop into ZR1 and it will auto slice to the pads?
Cool to see folks coming around to Zenbeats! I’ve been singing it’s praises for a couple years now probably. I think it’s not far off from Logic feature wise and it’s got everything I need!
Not auto-slice, but place it on a pad. If you want to slice it, I'd recommend using the slicer tools in ZR1, or what I do, which is to go into the audio editor and set the loop points to just the section that I want to import to the pad. Whatever audio is between the loop locators will be added to the pad. Make sense?
Works for me, thanks! Quickly adding loops to a pad is also a usable feature so no qualms here 🤝
yes i tried this, unfortunately doesn’t work too.. so wondering if i am doing something wrong:
here, using parameters list view, tried with 3 different plugins, no success
🙌
/DMfan🇸🇪
Try my method Dendy
Arm the track on the main timeline that needs the automation
Arm “record automations” on record
Then record the automations again directly to the mainline pattern that you pasted
You’ll see a new set of automations OVER write the new parameters. The old will stil be printed but they won’t sound . Only the new automations record to the timeline will work .
If this was not clear, I’ll show you in morning
doesn’t work me .. no matter what i do, it just doesn’t record any automation on third party plugins, just for stock plugins
Edit - seems to be working after I reset the interface and shut down, and reset the iPad and started again. It’s very strange though that it happened on an off;but then again sometime EG PULSE will show in my window Auv3 and sometimes it is black and i have to close it. Sometimes Zenbeats is a little load time but i dont mind as long as it works as optimally as it has been . Best hardware+software DAW still
ALSO ZC1 is an amazing synth, i like it more than almost everything I have except for Hilda. They have a few Zenbeats synths, and also
ZR1 is a GREAT drum machine, its like having a Dr Rhythm but with versatility
Agreed all around. Sampleverse is also really good from what I’ve used. And for making quick loops to launch, ZB is the best, imo.
Yes, i finally understand the loading time. It’s loading 6 awesome synths, 20 drum kits, a drum machine and the full DAW, so I am sticking with Zenbeats for the life of my ipad @MatthewAtZenbeats I am a happy and will be returning customer for as long as Roland keeps this level of QC up my friend
I have a question about MPE. My keyboard has MPE enabled and i noticed in the plug in window you can enable MPE. How do you know (a) if you’re Auv3 does MPE? And b. How do you use it? Let’s say for example Moog MOdel D had it, what would it mean for a midi controller keyboard? Like how do you make use of it? Sorry if it’s a stupid question but I really dont know. I read about MPE but I couldn’t find anything about MPE+Zenbeats+AUv3 etc.
TY
You can actually use the inbuilt Keyboard and Pads as MPE-controllers. You have to MPEenable the plugin itself, as well as the keyboard in the settings for each. If I remember correctly, the four little squares icon in the top left corner of the plugin-window and top left of the keyboard (sorry, not at my iPad right now).
Any way to make the piano roll stick to a scale? Same way the keyboard can.
Yep. Once Keylock is turned on at the top, you can enable it in the piano roll editors too and it will be on by default for new patterns created. You enable on any pattern, by tapping on the Pattern Preset icon in the top bar of the MIDI Editor, and enabling the Key Lock setting there.
Thank you!
How did you get MIDI learn to work with Combustor? are your knobs midi controller mapping( they are in Drambo)?
Yep and all things considered the loading time really isn’t all that bad. Are you using other AUs or mostly Zenbeats?
At first, I was using my AU only. Then I found ZC1 and the other Zen engine instruments and really liked them as much as SM2 and Zeeon. Then I looked more into ZR1 and how easy it is to use and setup. So I used less synths, modeler instruments, and drums and stuck mainly in the Zenbeats ecosystem with the big mixer and master effects chains being external plug ins. So I use both almost equally. It used to be all I used was AU, now Zenbeats really won over my heart and mind. I hope they continue this momentum.
(My biggest issue is my Combustor is mapping when I have the effect off but when I enable It the midi knob response stops and the mapping goes away)
I really love the DAW, and if I didn’t own Logic for desktop I would have probably gotten this for both
I don’t have a desktop, all iPad here, and yeah I love Zenbeats a lot. Based on how far it’s come over the years I have faith that it will only get better. They’ve been amazing with the updates and maintenance so far.
I love the way the internal synths sound but I love my AUs too much to not use them. But I usually have at least 1-2 tracks per project that use the internal synths. And I love the looper for drums and samples.
I’m mostly in AUM anyway but if I want to work in a DAW I tend to go for Zenbeats first and Logic second (mostly for its effects). I’m just glad we have options. I kinda feel bad abandoning Cubasis 3 but it unfortunately doesn’t really have a place for me anymore.
Anyone else using Zenbeats on Mac M1/2 Desktop (Monterey) - are your AUV3 crossovers from IOS devs loading fine?
Icegear synths (Nambu , Mersenne , Kronecker ) & Fx (Yukawa, Yoshiba) , Moog synths , Virsyn synths ,Apesoft fx
I had this problem earlier today , went back this evening to gather more info & there was coincidentally a brand new Zenbeats update , which I hoped would fix this but didn’t .
Only occasional Zenbeats on Mac user but I’m sure I’ve had most of these AUV3s loaded & working -
I had particularly wanted to use midifx as not Ableton compatible .
All load & work in Ableton (audio) / midifx load in standalone or Drambo host on Mac ,
& work fine in Zenbeats Ipad .
@MatthewAtZenbeats
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Hi, I am trying to learn Zenbeats since the all formats sale. I like the idea of using it on my IPad and Mac. I am not a clip based guy (yet). Tomorrow I am picking an MC707. Will the synth and drum machine purchases I made in Zenbeats work on the MC707?
I have yet to understand the zen core thing, I wil not do a monthly licensing fee. I prefer a onetime license fee.
My hope is use my iPad to sketch ideas then to the MC707 for live jamming and to control my hardware synths use some of the internal sounds and use it as a drum machine. Record all that into Zenbeats as my Daw. Then arrange , record vocals and mix.
Am I dreaming?
no unfortunatelly this doesn’t work that way .. what you purchase inside Zenbeats are just samples and presets for ZB plugins, you cannot sent thwm in any way into 707 ..
I think you can use 707 as audio/midi interface with iPad, so you should be probably able to sample from 707 into ZenBeats audio track and maybe samole Zend Beats output into 707 sampler (but that is just my wild guess, not sure that any of this really works)
i think @Tarekith owns 707, so maybe he can tell you what exactly is possible
If you want edit presers for 707 in some editor, you need buy gull Zenology synth subscription on desktop, cause it is not available on iOS (it is independent app, unrelated to ZenBeats)
To be added: the functionality overlaps a lot (depending on your preference regarding workflow ofc you might want to use both). Your ipad with Roland Zenbeats DAW with an added MIDI controller and an audio interface is IMO way more powerful, with both loop and timeline recording views, more recording channels och and you also have access to the iOS world of AUv3s directly from within Zenbeats. The GUI of Zenbeats is also easier to work with I’d say.
You can get a really good MIDI controller and an audio interface for a lot less money then a 707, especially used.
The MC707 is not bad in any way though, it’s a great groovebox and if you like the tactile feel of knobs and sliders go for it. Just know what you are getting before doubling up on functions.
/DMfan🇸🇪
I’m new to Zenbeats, really like the workflow!
One question. I would like to record the midi output of Animoog Z, is this possible? Already tried the advanced midi settings, but no luck so far…
@Jer4
No can do at the time of writing. The developer is aware and hopefully this function will be added in a coming update.
Great to hear you like Roland Zenbeats DAW!🙌
/DMfan🇸🇪
I'll look into this and see what we can do. Thanks for feedback!
Thank you @DMfan, good to know! I was looking everywhere, but it wasn’t me 😅 Thankfully the Zenbeats keyboard is really good, I am amazed by its MPE functionality.
Thank you guys,
I like to Jam and write DAWlessly -is that a word? I would not get the MC707 except an associate is selling his for 500 and I was in the market for an SH4d. It just seems like it is even more powerful than the SH4d with the 8 tracks and a better sequencer. I may end selling my Yamaha QX3 sequencers and drum machines, well not all of them!
I do a lot of Musical sketches on the Ipad either Nano Studio2 or Cubasis then work it all out on Hardware synths and drum machines then combine all of it into my current DAW Pro Tools.
I just feel in love with the idea of a cross platform DAW, both Desktop and IOS -one DAW to rule them all!
Thank you for letting me know about Zenology, there is: Zenbeats, Zencore, Zenology, oh my! I just wish it was all universally compatible.
I already have a few really good midi controllers and audio interfaces. I just like walking into my studio and playing without having to turn on a computer or ipad sometimes
@DMfan
This is not how this works , it’s not about plain “list of features”- you can’t compare sw with generic midi controller with hw groovebox with surface optimised for that one particular use case .. those are two different worlds, different approaches..
When you work with HW groovebox you approach creation from conpletely different angle than when you use DAW ..
It’s hard to explain, you have to try it. Not sayin’t one is “better” than other. They are just extremely different, they do not competite nor substitute each other ..
Spend last few weeks with deep exploration of Zenbeats. There are aspect with i really LOVE
and i was hoping i learn to adjust my workflow because after those years with NS2 i was thinking
about it's maybe time to try something new. New production environment always inspires me
to create new music. It's not that i want to abandon NS2 (that's never gonna happen) but
just for some time switch to something new.
What i like on ZB (well done job, ZB team !!) :
drum sampler. This is amazing thing. Really. Love it to it's last piece. Masterpiece. After
i got familiar with it will miss it till rest of my life in any other DAW
zend core player - even through i would like to have there more editing features (obviously)
just as preset player it's fantastic. Enormous amount of inspirative sounds.
sampleverse - i love oscillators setup complexity, and being able to build main wave from group of "sub" waves
that was smart. really good.
build in FXs - they are surprising good, even through they haven't too much parameters they works great and
most importantly they sounds great.
easy way you you can setup sidechaining
in general i like UI (except of faders on mixer, they look like from year 1992 :-)), it's
well laid, everything accessible, everything logical. Good work with UI !
the way how you can easily transfer loops from session view to linear view
(copy past or even realtime recording - that is just amazing)
But. There are things which are together simply showstopper to me
Looks like i need wait
for another year/two (or how much it takes, if ever) until ZB matures to level of feature
set which is absolute bare minimum for me to be able to use DAW for my music
Namely, this stuff:
1/ recording of automation
Not just it doesn't work for third party plugins directly from their UI, i experienced cases when it
it didn't work even from internal UI list of parameters for given plugin.
What it worst, i already got situation where even built in stock plugins weren't
recording tweaks even through everything was set as expected (track arm record enabled,
recording mode "automation" in top bar enabled, yet my tweaks weren't recorded no matter
how hard i tried)
This is for me crucial thing, reliable and 100% working automation recording -
i use realtime automation of parameters a LOT LOT LOT, i draw automation
just in very rare cases.
This is habit i learned during my HW grooveboxes journey and now can't live without that.
2/ Loading own samples [SOLVED, thanks to @wim]
Not being able to load own samples into build in drum sampler is bummer. Another thing -
just generic apple files popup when i try load samples into sampleverse or to audio track -
where i doesn't have preview of loaded sample - that is another major drawback for me.
I use my own drum samples a lot. Especially for kick drums (the type of kicks i use aren't
available in any sample pack inside ZB), but also for other ones - i have my personal
collection of drum samples which i collected during years, and i just love using them
instead if diving through hundreds of factory packed banks.
3/ Editing of samples
Lack of some basic editor with features like trim, volume fades, cut, copy/paste, set loop points,
normalize. Usable at all places where you can work with samples (sampleverse, drum sampler, audio track)
4/ Unable to sent group into another group
This is something which i need more than i expected. I realised that i use this in NS
a LOT LOT LOT and it is absolutely crucial for my music.. in ZB there is just single level of grouping and that's it - i can't create group kick+bass and then group it with rest of drum sound track. I can't group
2-3 synths together which i use often for layering, and then send this group into another group
which is my sub-group for various pads sounds and then THIS subgroup sent to main
group which is sidechained by kick. I use this literally all the time. Thought i can live without
it but no, i can't
5/ not being able to zoom in / out by pinch
This is detail, not that bad, but even after weeks of working i still tend in any view use quickly
pitch to zoomn in / out and then i realise it doesn't work here and in eed to tap on small +/-
zoom icons in bottom right corner. Not major issue, but just annoying thing.
At current moment, ZB is for me really only thinkable alternative (or more like second option) DAW on iOS besides NS2 and i really honestly HOPE points 1-5 (or at least 1-4) gets sorted at some point, i would LOVE to be able to jump between those two DAWs. Maybe one day. Will give it a try again after some time when (if) some major update will pop out, definitely not giving up on it !