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You can load your own samples.
See screenshot. You can bulk import through the files app too. You can organize using sub folders too but it is of limited use. Everything shows in a flat list. However, search does make some use of the folder names for filtering.
@wim uhm ?? i doesn't have that icon 😱
aaah jeeez i am fucking idiot.. just needed switch filter from "all" to user and icon appears !!! thanks @wim !!!!!
how ?? i doesn't have zenbeats folde4 in "on My Ipad" in Apple Files app
edit: ipad reboot fixed it !
Recording of automation will hopefully get better soon. That’s top of my list too.
hm ok now what kind of fuckery is this ?
looks like ZB plays samples filtered through some kind of lowpass filter .. or it kills transient ...here same kick in ZB and NS
there are any filter/eq in ZB set, it's just plain new project and kick loaded into drum sampler
It’s so ironic that “abarg” (from the BM3 Discord chat room) asked me to ask a question about AEM for him that never got a reply, and then he never followed up with me like he said he was going to. as it got curiouser and curiouser in the Discord chat room and servers, I realized mr smilez thread had merit and weight to it, and I was wasting my time using a most likely “dead app soon”. Alls I’m saying is, If abarg didn’t insist that I make an ABF account and post that question I wouldn’t have found Zenbeats 3.
Yes: the audio area needs basic tools as dendy pointed out. It would also be cool to have multi core support like almost all DAWs. aside from that this checks all the boxes for me. I think more updates will have this thing really sweet.
Since @abarg doesn’t have a username on ABF (that he wants to reveal for whatever reason), I hope tk and hans can pass along my thanks to him for pushing me to join and post on his behalf about another DAW otherwise I wouldn’t have found Zb3. (Thanks dudes)
Great feedback @dendy! I have alerted the developer! Keep your feedback coming, it is picked up!
Regarding comparisons between grooveboxes and DAWs I am with you and totally get it’s two different ball games. My personal opinion is still though that I find Roland Zenbeats DAW on an iPad with chosen hardware to go with it a more powerful solution than a groovebox. (This is therefore by no means ”the one and only truth”, it is just my opinion and no one else’s.)
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/DMfan🇸🇪
3.1.6 is on its way, stay put😎.
/DMfan🙌
definitely will monitor future updates and keeping it installed on my ipad for ocassional explorations ...
btw that problem with kickdrum i described above is weird - ,if you have contact to dev i can event sent you few kick samples where this problem is noticeable .. it looks like ZB adds some sort of short attack which kills first few mikiseconds of kick transient - weird that nobody noticed it yet
i made one more video.. i put same kick into drum sampler, then on audio track - even there they sounds differently - on audio track the problem is much more obvious... but also in drum sampler there is just missing first transient tick - as you can hear in audioshare, where it plays it correctly
here is original sample just in case:
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/nt5lwa8e7tjxfbltqnke2/Future-Kick-F.wav?rlkey=yjhh72ivf9wou8eyo2jaej6gm&dl=0
To me that sounds like ZenBeats is applying ~1ms attack envelope / fade in to the audio, they might do this to avoid ‘clicks’ !?
Interesting. We've made several tweaks to the engine to fix this. I'll download these samples and we'll take a look. Thanks for the link!
cool, thanks for effort !
ZB, is a cluster effword to me. I don’t really gel with it at all. I’ve tried …it’s just not for me
lol, we are different.. for me at scale of usability where NS2 is 10 and Logic is 0, ZB is probably 8 (when they fix my kick problem lol)
I’m in! I can’t wait to see the improvements. I have tried all DAW available (except NS2) and Zenbeats 3 is the most capable out of the box for what I do. I would give it an 8/10 as well, but if this update does what I hope for audio editing, this would easily be a 9/10. (with silicon threading even higher probably). Interface and colors are a little basic and not pretty but maybe that’s better for the processor load.
The developer is Roland, who, besides Apple Logic and Steinberg Cubasis, is the most experienced and enduring music company in the business of [iPadOS]. They are clearly hardware makers who have turned to software (since when I didn’t know) but it’s a great move. To rephrase, I know they won’t be abandoning the software like other DAW have.
I am surprised with the audio engine issues but it looks like that was high on the fix to-do list. They seem quick to respond to issues and the updates are real improvements from my brief gander at the app history. It’s a relief to find something that works for me the way Ableton Live works for me on desktop, as this is the closest DAW to Live. Without this topic I would still be struggling with DAWs that didn’t really fit or weren’t going to be updated anymore.
Is there anyway to have inter app audio sync/send audio to Zenbeats or do I have to import a wav sample? I see it has Ableton Link but I didn’t see a way to use it with my IAA apps.
Nope, Roland Zenbeats DAW on iOS is AUv3 only. Recording samples as wav is the way to go.
What apps are you using that is interapp?
Reason for me asking is if it is Korg, you can get a lot of Korg sound mileage from Electribe Wave directly since it is AUv3.
/DMfan🇸🇪
No big deal. I can just export. Logic doesn’t have IAA either so it’s really a minor and obsolete issue.
I would be cautious with thus conviction .. personally to avoid any future disappointment i doesn’t get any future updates as “certain” .. look at Korg, same big company but except of occasional sample/preset IAP crap they completely abandoned their whole iOS portfolio. Same case Novation. Big HW names who stepped into iOS waters ant after shorter (in case of Novation) or longer (in case of Korg) they jusz stepped out (obviously)
Not saying Roland will do same, nobody knows that. Just take for granted just and only whst you have in your hands ;-)
Of course, what is there now in case of ZB is pretry impressive, zero doubt. And of course IF developement will continue, i can imagine how amazing it will be 3-4 years from now ! Holding fingers crossed. For now, Roland/ZendBeats is rare exception of active development iOS which is promising !
Zenbeats Wish List
For many years, I used only Logic on a MacBook for all my music making duties. In 2020, I bought an M1 iPad Pro hoping that the iPad, with its touch screen and effortless portability, could become my main recording platform.
Like others here, I started out on Garageband. GB has many strengths (e.g. Drummer) but having come from Logic, it felt clunky and a bit dumbed down so I began a six or eight month search, trying out most of the iPad DAWs before eventually settling into Zenbeats full time. It just seemed to suit me the best. (Attending the live Roland tutorials early on really helped.)
Then, surprisingly, along comes Logic Pro for the iPad. Needless to say, I couldn’t resist checking it out, especially in relation to Zenbeats, which I’d been using pretty much exclusively for about two years.
What follows is not any sort of side-by-side comparison. Both apps are amazingly full featured and if one or the other didn’t exist, I’m sure I’d be fine with the one that did. But working with Logic again has highlighted several capabilities lacking in Zenbeats which, if implemented, would definitely increase my productivity and most likely the productivity of others:
EMBRACE THE APPLE ECOSYSTEM
Native file storage and backup in iCloud. Also, support for split view, slide over, and (perhaps) Stage Manager.
SUPPORT KEY COMMANDS
My iPad is nearly always affixed to an Apple Magic Keyboard and I don’t touch the screen any more than I have to. Key commands seem to be fully implemented in Logic. As I recall, Zenbeats on the Mac has extensive support for key commands. Not so on the iPad. Please, at the very least, let us start/stop the sequencer using the space bar. (Not having this drives me nuts.)
IMPROVE TRACKPAD BEHAVIOR
Along the same lines, multi-finger gestures, scrolling, and the like on a trackpad is pretty funky in Zenbeats.
ENHANCE AUDIO EDITING
At least enable crossfades. Even better, implement an intuitive comping facility. Logic Pro does this brilliantly, though not yet on the iPad. In Logic Mac it’s super easy to combine the best bits from multiple takes into a final edited section or track.
IMPROVE USER CONTENT MANAGEMENT
Drop a few hundred loops or samples into the appropriate ZB user’s folder, then try to find and audition them in the ZB browser. It’s a hot mess of cryptic file names. Please allow for nested folders, visible in the ZB browser, so we can group and label our 3rd party content in whatever logical fashion makes the most sense, much like the way ZB’s own content is grouped into packs.
PROVIDE A NATIVE TUNER
I mainly play guitar and I frequently adjust the tuning. Logic has a lovely built-in tuner and tuner plugin. Zenbeats should, too.
DISCRETE SELECTION OF AUDIO SAMPLE RATE
Zenbeats has a “Force 44k” option but I’d prefer to choose the sample rate for a project explicitly. I don’t know what happens when “Force 44k” is unchecked and I’d hate to discover later on that I’ve been recording at an unintended rate.
I can’t think of anything else at the moment but I look forward to others piling on with their own wish list ideas. I’ll tag Matthew below and I’ll gladly submit these to ZB support if that would help make my dreams come true.
Thanks.
CC: @MatthewAtZenbeats
I really like, that the included midi controllers support MPE. I was really excited, when I saw I could assign different options to the x-axis... Unfortunately the options are pitch and none. Please make aftertouch an option. That would be so awesome.
@MatthewAtZenbeats
/DMfan🇸🇪
@DMfan thanks, forgot about that.
It's no substitute of course for folder hierarchy, but it is possible to get some utility out of sub-folders. I copy my samples in with folder structure using the files app. Yes, they display in one big-ass flat list. However, you can then use the search box to quickly filter the list if you know the name of the folder or some part of it. This helps a bit with sample management.
I just use the free Nembrini one, and save it as part of a track template.
@Schmotown
generally it's better to have this unchecked - many third party plugins doesn't like when host app is locked on different sample rate than device natural one (which is usually 48khz) - they may manifest all kinds of weird bugs starting with wrong pitch ending with crashes
On iOS definitely better to uncheck it, no idea how it is on other OS where ZB is available
Thanks @wim. I do use the Nembrini tuner but I noticed that ZB is displaying the pitch numerically in real time just below the level meters in the channel strip. Seems like one small step from that to something graphical.
We do apply tiny micro-fades to avoid clicks and as I mentioned before we recently made changes in the 3.1.3 and 3.1.4 updates. We'll look at this sample provided to see how it behaves.
Thanks for this wishlist!
Now let's talk about this update. What will be innit. You can tell me here, nobody see that and i will tell nobody, you can believe me
I bought a Roland EV5 pedal. Why does the expression not have a gradual movement? It is either all on or all off? Is there a setting in the Zenbeats menu to adjust the pedal input?