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  • edited August 2023

    I am giving a honest try to learn Zenbeats interface. I find it awkward but I am persevering learning it because it seem to have all that I am missing in another software.

    I am getting lots of auv3 crashes. King of bass, Beathawk, Phosphor 3 and Butter synth. I am also getting occasional Zenbeats full crash.

    Is that the norm ?

    I have the latest version of Zenbeats, iPadOS and a iPad pro 2017.

    I only have the V1 unlock. I am waiting to see how I get along with it to buy it.

  • Where do I find a up to date manual ? The one on the Roland website seem to have outdated screen cap.

    It says in the store you can download it but it's not there.

  • edited August 2023

    @ecou said:
    I am giving a honest try to learn Zenbeats interface. I find it awkward but I am persevering learning it because it seem to have all that I am missing in another software.

    I am getting lots of auv3 crashes. King of bass, Beathawk, Phosphor 3 and Butter synth. I am also getting occasional Zenbeats full crash.

    Is that the norm ?

    I have the latest version of Zenbeats, iPadOS and a iPad pro 2017.

    I only have the V1 unlock. I am waiting to see how I get along with it to buy it.

    Sorry to hear about your stability issues, and I’d say no, that is not the norm. I would dare to say Roland Zenbeats DAW is pretty stable at this point.

    Please let us know what you are doing when the crashes occur and if anyone of the mentioned AUv3s is especially prone to crashing inside of Zenbeats. The developer has made it clear that they want to try to fix any AUv3 issues if possible on their part.

    I have access to Phosphor 3 and Buttersynth so I’ll try to use them more but it would really help to know what is going on when the crashes happen so we can try to replicate to isolate your issues.

    /DMfan🇸🇪

  • @ecou said:
    Where do I find a up to date manual ? The one on the Roland website seem to have outdated screen cap.

    It says in the store you can download it but it's not there.

    It is not available unfortunately. A request for an updated written manual is already noted in the backlog.

    I second your wish here, people learn in different ways and when trying to understand a complex app and getting explanations of what a specific function is for a manual is very handy. The chosen path of the developer as of now are video tutorials linked to inside the app and in different media like YouTube and occasional live online classes.

    These are the ones made by others as well that I have in my library:

    Hope they can help if anyone runs into questions!👊

    /DMfan🇸🇪

  • Hi! @MatthewAtZenbeats

    Here's an interesting 'glitch' when adjusting 'fade in' on a drum-pad when the sample is slightly zoomed in.
    (Unlisted video)

    The right 'fade out' seems to draw a 'fade in' when fade-in is adjusted?!

    Please consider adding a 'crop' functionality to the sample-editor.
    Currently we can adjust start and end but there is no way to do either permanently crop or normalize the recorded sample.
    There is a slight gain adjustment (up to 12db) in the 'inspector' but for quiet sounds that's not always enough.

    Thanks for your time.
    /Samuel

  • @DMfan said:

    @ecou said:
    I am giving a honest try to learn Zenbeats interface. I find it awkward but I am persevering learning it because it seem to have all that I am missing in another software.

    I am getting lots of auv3 crashes. King of bass, Beathawk, Phosphor 3 and Butter synth. I am also getting occasional Zenbeats full crash.

    Is that the norm ?

    I have the latest version of Zenbeats, iPadOS and a iPad pro 2017.

    I only have the V1 unlock. I am waiting to see how I get along with it to buy it.

    Sorry to hear about your stability issues, and I’d say no, that is not the norm. I would dare to say Roland Zenbeats DAW is pretty stable at this point.

    Please let us know what you are doing when the crashes occur and if anyone of the mentioned AUv3s is especially prone to crashing inside of Zenbeats. The developer has made it clear that they want to try to fix any AUv3 issues if possible on their part.

    I have access to Phosphor 3 and Buttersynth so I’ll try to use them more but it would really help to know what is going on when the crashes happen so we can try to replicate to isolate your issues.

    /DMfan🇸🇪

    First time :

    I had a beat going. So I added King of bass and started inputting notes in a midi region. When I clicked on KOB the UI would not show up. I reloaded the auv3. Then a second time the same thing happened. Then the third time Zenbeats crashed.

    Second time was very similar. At that point I had a beat and two other tracks. I added Beathawk then crashed after editing a midi region, replaced with Phosphor 3 then Butter synth. Then Zenbeats crashed.

  • @DMfan said:

    @ecou said:
    Where do I find a up to date manual ? The one on the Roland website seem to have outdated screen cap.

    It says in the store you can download it but it's not there.

    It is not available unfortunately. A request for an updated written manual is already noted in the backlog.

    I second your wish here, people learn in different ways and when trying to understand a complex app and getting explanations of what a specific function is for a manual is very handy. The chosen path of the developer as of now are video tutorials linked to inside the app and in different media like YouTube and occasional live online classes.

    These are the ones made by others as well that I have in my library:

    Hope they can help if anyone runs into questions!👊

    /DMfan🇸🇪

    Thank you I will watch them.

    Can you tell me what is the difference between those 3 buttons. They all seem to bring the exact same side bar.

  • edited August 2023

    @Samu said:
    Please consider adding a 'crop' functionality to the sample-editor.
    Currently we can adjust start and end but there is no way to do either permanently crop or normalize the recorded sample.

    yeah basic audio edit capabilities would be really handy

    • crop(trim), normalize, fade in, fade out, copy/cut/past selection - absolute essentials
    • ability to make selection (for later copy/cut/paste/fade in/out) with snap to beat (or any standard beat division - same like for notes editor) highly handy
    • ability to reverse (again not just whole sample but just selection)

    …. and fix the transient destruction bug - for me absolutely major showstopper :(

    @ecou said:

    on iPhone it shows just selected part of mixer track (plugins, inserts, sends) - but just in case there is something to show - i mean if you have at least one insert fx and you tap inserts fx icon, it shows detail list of all insert fxs - otherwise it does nothing

    doesn’t have ipad with me atm to check if it behaves same way on iPad but i guess it does

  • Quick question: how do you send midi to a audio effect? Example: I want to send midi from Piano Motifs to Combustor.

  • @RobertninesixBlack said:
    Zenbeats is said to have a very simple and user-friendly interface, after a few days feel like a fish in the water

    I guess I am more of a land mammal.

  • @dendy said:

    @Samu said:
    Please consider adding a 'crop' functionality to the sample-editor.
    Currently we can adjust start and end but there is no way to do either permanently crop or normalize the recorded sample.

    yeah basic audio edit capabilities would be really handy

    • crop(trim), normalize, fade in, fade out, copy/cut/past selection - absolute essentials
    • ability to make selection (for later copy/cut/paste/fade in/out) with snap to beat (or any standard beat division - same like for notes editor) highly handy
    • ability to reverse (again not just whole sample but just selection)

    …. and fix the transient destruction bug - for me absolutely major showstopper :(

    @ecou said:

    on iPhone it shows just selected part of mixer track (plugins, inserts, sends) - but just in case there is something to show - i mean if you have at least one insert fx and you tap inserts fx icon, it shows detail list of all insert fxs - otherwise it does nothing

    doesn’t have ipad with me atm to check if it behaves same way on iPad but i guess it does

    Yeah I do hope they’ll make some updates to the audio/sample editing soon.

  • Unfortunately I'm having quite some issues with Zenbeats. Some crashes (three times when working with Tera Pro, seems to be working better when plugin is in window mode but I like the "integrated" much more), but the most annoying thing is that sometimes it goes completely silent. Happened at least twice after loading a plugin. If I save the project and restart the app it works again. I have a 2020 iPad with iOS 16.1, any tips?

  • @unlink said:
    Unfortunately I'm having quite some issues with Zenbeats. Some crashes (three times when working with Tera Pro, seems to be working better when plugin is in window mode but I like the "integrated" much more), but the most annoying thing is that sometimes it goes completely silent. Happened at least twice after loading a plugin. If I save the project and restart the app it works again. I have a 2020 iPad with iOS 16.1, any tips?

    I had the silent thing happen to me yesterday too. On top of the problems I talked about a couple post higher.

  • Today, one key remained pressed continuously until ZB restarted. Plugins cannot be deployed. They open at different scales. Inconvenient.

  • Is there a way make the grid at the back of the midi editor more visible ? Specialty the horizontal line of the notes.

  • @ecou said:

    @unlink said:
    Unfortunately I'm having quite some issues with Zenbeats. Some crashes (three times when working with Tera Pro, seems to be working better when plugin is in window mode but I like the "integrated" much more), but the most annoying thing is that sometimes it goes completely silent. Happened at least twice after loading a plugin. If I save the project and restart the app it works again. I have a 2020 iPad with iOS 16.1, any tips?

    I had the silent thing happen to me yesterday too. On top of the problems I talked about a couple post higher.

    Instead of save/quit/restart/reload procedure tap menu/settings/audio/buffer size and tap the selected value again.
    Still sucks, but definitely easier and faster than the quit and restart procedure

  • @ecou said:

    @unlink said:
    Unfortunately I'm having quite some issues with Zenbeats. Some crashes (three times when working with Tera Pro, seems to be working better when plugin is in window mode but I like the "integrated" much more), but the most annoying thing is that sometimes it goes completely silent. Happened at least twice after loading a plugin. If I save the project and restart the app it works again. I have a 2020 iPad with iOS 16.1, any tips?

    I had the silent thing happen to me yesterday too. On top of the problems I talked about a couple post higher.

    Did you leave the app and then go back in? That bug a known issue. I believe someone mentioned a fix is coming.

  • edited August 2023

    @solncekreeze said:
    Today, one key remained pressed continuously until ZB restarted. Plugins cannot be deployed. They open at different scales. Inconvenient.

    The only time I’ve had issues with stuck keys is if I’m holding them down while I’m changing presets. Did you do that by chance?

    Also what do you mean by the plugins cant be deployed?

  • Can’t anyone give a quick test of running Apesofts Accordion app inside Zenbeats? I can’t get it to run without sounding crackled and out of time no nagger what buffer setting it’s on. Highest buffer sounds slightly better but still bad. And I’m using the same buffer settings for AUM, Audiobus3, and Logic and not having these issues. It’s one of my favorite plugins so quite a bummer for me.

  • @HotStrange said:

    @ecou said:

    @unlink said:
    Unfortunately I'm having quite some issues with Zenbeats. Some crashes (three times when working with Tera Pro, seems to be working better when plugin is in window mode but I like the "integrated" much more), but the most annoying thing is that sometimes it goes completely silent. Happened at least twice after loading a plugin. If I save the project and restart the app it works again. I have a 2020 iPad with iOS 16.1, any tips?

    I had the silent thing happen to me yesterday too. On top of the problems I talked about a couple post higher.

    Did you leave the app and then go back in? That bug a known issue. I believe someone mentioned a fix is coming.

    I can't recall but I will know for next time

  • @GLacey said:

    @ecou said:

    @unlink said:
    Unfortunately I'm having quite some issues with Zenbeats. Some crashes (three times when working with Tera Pro, seems to be working better when plugin is in window mode but I like the "integrated" much more), but the most annoying thing is that sometimes it goes completely silent. Happened at least twice after loading a plugin. If I save the project and restart the app it works again. I have a 2020 iPad with iOS 16.1, any tips?

    I had the silent thing happen to me yesterday too. On top of the problems I talked about a couple post higher.

    Instead of save/quit/restart/reload procedure tap menu/settings/audio/buffer size and tap the selected value again.
    Still sucks, but definitely easier and faster than the quit and restart procedure

    Good tip. Thank yoi

  • @ecou said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @ecou said:

    @unlink said:
    Unfortunately I'm having quite some issues with Zenbeats. Some crashes (three times when working with Tera Pro, seems to be working better when plugin is in window mode but I like the "integrated" much more), but the most annoying thing is that sometimes it goes completely silent. Happened at least twice after loading a plugin. If I save the project and restart the app it works again. I have a 2020 iPad with iOS 16.1, any tips?

    I had the silent thing happen to me yesterday too. On top of the problems I talked about a couple post higher.

    Did you leave the app and then go back in? That bug a known issue. I believe someone mentioned a fix is coming.

    I can't recall but I will know for next time

    Cool! Hopefully it’ll be fixed soon because it is a bit of a pain to not be able to quickly leave the app and jump back in. It won’t happen if it’s VERY fast but more than a couple minutes and it’s done.

  • I am back with more questions but the good news is I am liking Zenbeats more and more.

    In the Timeline view, how do I copy multi patterns to repeat further down my song ? When I do a multi pattern select I don’t get the floating toolbar with option to paste and copy.

    The Zr1 drums , I cannot find how to do a subtrack (multi out). I guess it can’t be done?

  • @ecou said:
    I am back with more questions but the good news is I am liking Zenbeats more and more.

    In the Timeline view, how do I copy multi patterns to repeat further down my song ? When I do a multi pattern select I don’t get the floating toolbar with option to paste and copy.

    There's some weirdness here we need to fix, but here's a quick video of how it works now. Please DM me if you have any questions

    https://photos.app.goo.gl/pooYS7g2xTaLSeYJA

    The Zr1 drums , I cannot find how to do a subtrack (multi out). I guess it can’t be done?

    And here is how to use subtracks for ZR1 tracks

    https://photos.app.goo.gl/bDPC7iS1ZULGWeT48

  • @MatthewAtZenbeats said:

    @ecou said:
    I am back with more questions but the good news is I am liking Zenbeats more and more.

    In the Timeline view, how do I copy multi patterns to repeat further down my song ? When I do a multi pattern select I don’t get the floating toolbar with option to paste and copy.

    There's some weirdness here we need to fix, but here's a quick video of how it works now. Please DM me if you have any questions

    https://photos.app.goo.gl/pooYS7g2xTaLSeYJA

    When I do it the way you show in the video it works.

    What I was doing was holding my finger a blank space. Then drawing a box select around my patterns. But that would not bring up the toolbar.

    The Zr1 drums , I cannot find how to do a subtrack (multi out). I guess it can’t be done?

    And here is how to use subtracks for ZR1 tracks

    https://photos.app.goo.gl/bDPC7iS1ZULGWeT48

    I tought I had to add subtracks like for a Auv3. It is way more simpler that I made it out to be.

    Thank you very much for your help

  • @MatthewAtZenbeats im still having a lot of trouble running Accordion AU into Zenbeats. Lots of crackling, static, detuning, etc no matter what the buffer size is. I’ve tried restarts and anything I can think of with no luck. Any ideas or any way you could test? (If you have the app that is)

  • edited August 2023

    I’m waiting for the Zenology synth as an auv3 to buy…the version in zenbeats is the lighter than light version…nawwwww!

  • @HotStrange said:
    Can’t anyone give a quick test of running Apesofts Accordion app inside Zenbeats? I can’t get it to run without sounding crackled and out of time no nagger what buffer setting it’s on. Highest buffer sounds slightly better but still bad. And I’m using the same buffer settings for AUM, Audiobus3, and Logic and not having these issues. It’s one of my favorite plugins so quite a bummer for me.

    Did a quick test with 1 track each of Accordion, Electrokeys + ZR1 Drum.. went through all Accordion presets + recorded 2 bars to loop along with drums.. played along to the loop with Eletrokeys to check tuning.. everything seems to be working here.. iPad 6, iOS 16.6

    Sucks that it’s not working for you.. Have you tried to offload app + rescan? 🤷‍♂️

  • @HotStrange said:
    @MatthewAtZenbeats im still having a lot of trouble running Accordion AU into Zenbeats. Lots of crackling, static, detuning, etc no matter what the buffer size is. I’ve tried restarts and anything I can think of with no luck. Any ideas or any way you could test? (If you have the app that is)

    Can you post a screenshot of your audio settings tab?

  • edited August 2023

    Hey @royor @MatthewAtZenbeats i think I figured it out. Somehow between the last project I did and now “force 44k” was tapped. Took it off and now it seems to be performing fine. Guess ZB was forcing it to play at that sample rate and was giving me issues. Sorry for the confusion and thanks for the help!

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