Zenbeats Version 3

MatthewAtZenbeats

@HotStrange said:
Hey @royor @MatthewAtZenbeats i think I figured it out. Somehow between the last project I did and now “force 44k” was tapped. Took it off and now it seems to be performing fine. Guess ZB was forcing it to play at that sample rate and was giving me issues. Sorry for the confusion and thanks for the help!

That's what I was going to check on for you. Some plugins do not like being resampled. Glad that works for you!

HotStrange

@MatthewAtZenbeats said:

@HotStrange said:
Hey @royor @MatthewAtZenbeats i think I figured it out. Somehow between the last project I did and now “force 44k” was tapped. Took it off and now it seems to be performing fine. Guess ZB was forcing it to play at that sample rate and was giving me issues. Sorry for the confusion and thanks for the help!

That's what I was going to check on for you. Some plugins do not like being resampled. Glad that works for you!

Definitely seems to be the case. Thanks for responding 🙏

Tentype

@MatthewAtZenbeats please help!

Klevgrand Tomofon is not recognized as an AUV3

Latest Zenbeats
iOS 16.6
iPad Air 5 M1 processor

Restarted iPad, reinstalled Tomofon, rescanned everything, no joy.

🙏🏽

DMfan

@Tentype said:
@MatthewAtZenbeats please help!

Klevgrand Tomofon is not recognized as an AUV3

Latest Zenbeats
iOS 16.6
iPad Air 5 M1 processor

Restarted iPad, reinstalled Tomofon, rescanned everything, no joy.

🙏🏽

Did you try unchecking Force 44k in Settings as described above? Worth a try even though the issues seem separate…

/DMfan🇸🇪

Tentype

No luck with unchecking force 44k, rebooting, verifying its unchecked, and then rescanning.

Thank you for the tips on things to try though. 🙏🏽

everspring

This update has caused a lot of new bugs, crashes and instability, especially with plugins.

I hope there is already a new update with audio editing and engine improvement is in the works, along with AUv3 compatibility improvement.

ecou

@everspring said:
This update has caused a lot of new bugs, crashes and instability, especially with plugins.

I hope there is already a new update with audio editing and engine improvement is in the works, along with AUv3 compatibility improvement.

Typical me and picking the wrong time to give Zenbeats a try 😄

DMfan

@everspring said:
This update has caused a lot of new bugs, crashes and instability, especially with plugins.

I hope there is already a new update with audio editing and engine improvement is in the works, along with AUv3 compatibility improvement.

Nothing has been changed in the plugin hosting according to the developer in 3.1.6. Please come back with info regarding what plugins are not working now, compared to earlier.🙏

What is in the works is blurry, professor Trelawney at Hogwarts says. She will send an owl when she can tell😉.

/DMfan🇸🇪

DMfan

@ecou said:

@everspring said:
This update has caused a lot of new bugs, crashes and instability, especially with plugins.

I hope there is already a new update with audio editing and engine improvement is in the works, along with AUv3 compatibility improvement.

Typical me and picking the wrong time to give Zenbeats a try 😄

Just hang in there buddy, everything will work out fine!

😁

/DMfan🇸🇪

MatthewAtZenbeats

@Tentype said:
@MatthewAtZenbeats please help!

Klevgrand Tomofon is not recognized as an AUV3

Latest Zenbeats
iOS 16.6
iPad Air 5 M1 processor

Restarted iPad, reinstalled Tomofon, rescanned everything, no joy.

🙏🏽

@DMfan said:

@everspring said:
This update has caused a lot of new bugs, crashes and instability, especially with plugins.

I hope there is already a new update with audio editing and engine improvement is in the works, along with AUv3 compatibility improvement.

Nothing has been changed in the plugin hosting according to the developer in 3.1.6. Please come back with info regarding what plugins are not working now, compared to earlier.🙏

What is in the works is blurry, professor Trelawney at Hogwarts says. She will send an owl when she can tell😉.

/DMfan🇸🇪

DMfan is correct. There are absolutely ZERO changes to plugin hosting code (on any platform). I can say I am not familiar with any of these new plugins that are exhibiting issues so I'll need to get copies for the team to check out and test. Thank you all for the report!

HotStrange

@Tentype said:
No luck with unchecking force 44k, rebooting, verifying its unchecked, and then rescanning.

Thank you for the tips on things to try though. 🙏🏽

I’ll give it a test run after work to see if I have any issues. You’re on the latest iPad OS as well?

Tentype

Yep, fully updated on everything.

Thanks! I'm very curious if it's working for anyone else.

Tentype

Aha! I just found Tomofon listed in "quarantined plugins" (didn't know there was such a place). I unquarantined it and rescanned and it works.

I'm not sure why it was quarantined in the first place though.

Also, it would be really handy to get a message box after doing a plugin scan that tells you what happened, and perhaps a clearer way to find the quarantined things.

Thanks for your help everyone!

solncekreeze

@HotStrange said:

@solncekreeze said:
Today, one key remained pressed continuously until ZB restarted. Plugins cannot be deployed. They open at different scales. Inconvenient.

The only time I’ve had issues with stuck keys is if I’m holding them down while I’m changing presets. Did you do that by chance?

Also what do you mean by the plugins cant be deployed?

This may have happened when switching plugins. It doesn't change the essence. And as for the scale of plugins, the ZB interface does not have the function of deploying plugins to the screen. They cannot be expanded. And it's inconvenient.

Tentype

Absolutely loving zenbeats. I didn't realize how much I've been searching for this workflow since leaving Ableton Live. Incredible to have it on iPad, fully touch enabled!

My 2 wishes for the future are:

• FREELY resizable plugin windows. They get in the way too often, especially when using midi fx for midi input and trying to control loop recording.

• pinch zooming in the timeline view and especially the piano roll. Gotta have it. Seriously.

Neither of them are show stopping, just quality of life.

Thank you for this fantastic DAW. 💕

HotStrange

@Tentype said:
Absolutely loving zenbeats. I didn't realize how much I've been searching for this workflow since leaving Ableton Live. Incredible to have it on iPad, fully touch enabled!

My 2 wishes for the future are:

• FREELY resizable plugin windows. They get in the way too often, especially when using midi fx for midi input and trying to control loop recording.

• pinch zooming in the timeline view and especially the piano roll. Gotta have it. Seriously.

Neither of them are show stopping, just quality of life.

Thank you for this fantastic DAW. 💕

Both great suggestions and I highly agree.

ecou

I finally completed my first song in Zenbeats and I am ready to export the stems for mixing. I have hammerhead for the drums. I added 8 sub tracks and I can see the soundbar moving on each channel at the right time.

The problem arise when I try to render the stems. It only renders one track for hammerhead.

wim

@ecou said:
I finally completed my first song in Zenbeats and I am ready to export the stems for mixing. I have hammerhead for the drums. I added 8 sub tracks and I can see the soundbar moving on each channel at the right time.

The problem arise when I try to render the stems. It only renders one track for hammerhead.

Do you mean that the rendered track is a mix of the sub tracks, or that only one sub track is rendered?

ecou

I am picking the Create stems render and not the Create mix option.

All my other non hammerhead tracks are rendered as seperate stems but the hammerhead track is only one stem rather then 8.

I can see on the screen the name of each tracks being rendered tracks by tracks but when it gets to hammerhead it only does one pass.

wim

That didn't answer my question, but OK. I'll just do my own test.

HotStrange

@ecou said:
I am picking the Create stems render and not the Create mix option.

All my other non hammerhead tracks are rendered as seperate stems but the hammerhead track is only one stem rather then 8.

I can see on the screen the name of each tracks being rendered tracks by tracks but when it gets to hammerhead it only does one pass.

So are you using multi outs of hammerhead on multiple channels and attempting to export/render those stems but it’s only rendering one instance of it?

DMfan

@ecou said:
I finally completed my first song in Zenbeats and I am ready to export the stems for mixing. I have hammerhead for the drums. I added 8 sub tracks and I can see the soundbar moving on each channel at the right time.

The problem arise when I try to render the stems. It only renders one track for hammerhead.

Great, congrats, I know the feeling having finished something in a new environment!🙌

It might be that Roland Zenbeats can´t render subtracks from AUv3s at that level yet. They render fine from ZR1. I only use ZR1 since I find it more than capable for my needs. I know though ”deeper" subtrack functions are discussed and in the backlog.

@MatthewAtZenbeats Can you shed any light on this?

/DMfan🇸🇪

DMfan

@HotStrange said:

@Tentype said:
Absolutely loving zenbeats. I didn't realize how much I've been searching for this workflow since leaving Ableton Live. Incredible to have it on iPad, fully touch enabled!

My 2 wishes for the future are:

• FREELY resizable plugin windows. They get in the way too often, especially when using midi fx for midi input and trying to control loop recording.

• pinch zooming in the timeline view and especially the piano roll. Gotta have it. Seriously.

Neither of them are show stopping, just quality of life.

Thank you for this fantastic DAW. 💕

Both great suggestions and I highly agree.

+1

/DMfan🇸🇪

DMfan

Hey Roland Zenbeats users, lovers and everyone else!

Would love to see some more inspirational action using Roland Zenbeats apart from myself!

I am shamelessy linking to my two covers shared in the Creation thread below, come on people! Can it inspire just ONE person I would be very happy! I do this as a hobby. There are obviously much more talented people using the app as well🤣. Let’s hear what you can do with Roland Zenbeats!

Yes, we have many wishes for it but it is still a fully functional AND operational DAW. Nevertheless, keep the feedback coming. The Roland team is actively listening but development takes time, and needs to be synced across four platforms.

/DMfan🇸🇪

HotStrange

@DMfan said:
Hey Roland Zenbeats users, lovers and everyone else!

Would love to see some more inspirational action using Roland Zenbeats apart from myself!

I am shamelessy linking to my two covers shared in the Creation thread below, come on people! Can it inspire just ONE person I would very happy! I do this as a hobby. There are obviously much more talented people using the app as well🤣. Let’s hear what you can do with Roland Zenbeats!

Yes, we have many wishes for it but it is still a fully functional AND operational DAW. Nevertheless, keep the feedback coming. The Roland team is actively listening but development takes time, and needs to be synced across four platforms.

/DMfan🇸🇪

Busy atm but will come back shortly to give these a listen! Actually have a track I’m working on in ZB right now called Gothic Rave. Yes it sounds like the title lol

DMfan

@HotStrange said:
Busy atm but will come back shortly to give these a listen! Actually have a track I’m working on in ZB right now called Gothic Rave. Yes it sounds like the title lol

Cool, looking forward to it!

😊

/DMfan🇸🇪

MatthewAtZenbeats

@DMfan said:

@ecou said:
I finally completed my first song in Zenbeats and I am ready to export the stems for mixing. I have hammerhead for the drums. I added 8 sub tracks and I can see the soundbar moving on each channel at the right time.

The problem arise when I try to render the stems. It only renders one track for hammerhead.

Great, congrats, I know the feeling having finished something in a new environment!🙌

It might be that Roland Zenbeats can´t render subtracks from AUv3s at that level yet. They render fine from ZR1. I only use ZR1 since I find it more than capable for my needs. I know though ”deeper" subtrack functions are discussed and in the backlog.

@MatthewAtZenbeats Can you shed any light on this?

/DMfan🇸🇪

Any subtrack should render. If not, then it is a bug and we will look into it.

dreamcartel

This became my favorite DAW. Maybe it’s because it’s the same company but it works with my Roland S-1 perfectly. (It’s max unlock for $75 right now I noticed)

ecou

@MatthewAtZenbeats said:

@DMfan said:

@ecou said:
I finally completed my first song in Zenbeats and I am ready to export the stems for mixing. I have hammerhead for the drums. I added 8 sub tracks and I can see the soundbar moving on each channel at the right time.

The problem arise when I try to render the stems. It only renders one track for hammerhead.

Great, congrats, I know the feeling having finished something in a new environment!🙌

It might be that Roland Zenbeats can´t render subtracks from AUv3s at that level yet. They render fine from ZR1. I only use ZR1 since I find it more than capable for my needs. I know though ”deeper" subtrack functions are discussed and in the backlog.

@MatthewAtZenbeats Can you shed any light on this?

/DMfan🇸🇪

Any subtrack should render. If not, then it is a bug and we will look into it.

I created a test project and I get the exact same problem that Hammerhead sub tracks will not render. I can send you that project @MatthewAtZenbeats. Maybe I don’t understand the procedure.

Here’s what I did.

• I added a instrument track
• I added Hammerhead
• Added 8 subtrack.
• Programmed a beat in Zenbeats midi editor
• I could see the sound bar moving to the beat on each sub track
• Clicked Render song in the upper right corner.
• Selected render song
• 

ecou

@wim said:
That didn't answer my question, but OK. I'll just do my own test.

Sorry I did not understand you question correctly. Yes it is a mix of all the tracks that is rendered.