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  • edited September 2023

    @ecou said:

    @MatthewAtZenbeats said:

    @DMfan said:

    @ecou said:
    I finally completed my first song in Zenbeats and I am ready to export the stems for mixing. I have hammerhead for the drums. I added 8 sub tracks and I can see the soundbar moving on each channel at the right time.

    The problem arise when I try to render the stems. It only renders one track for hammerhead.

    Great, congrats, I know the feeling having finished something in a new environment!🙌

    It might be that Roland Zenbeats can´t render subtracks from AUv3s at that level yet. They render fine from ZR1. I only use ZR1 since I find it more than capable for my needs. I know though ”deeper" subtrack functions are discussed and in the backlog.

    @MatthewAtZenbeats Can you shed any light on this?

    /DMfan🇸🇪

    Any subtrack should render. If not, then it is a bug and we will look into it.

    I created a test project and I get the exact same problem that Hammerhead sub tracks will not render. I can send you that project @MatthewAtZenbeats. Maybe I don’t understand the procedure.

    Here’s what I did.

    • I added a instrument track
    • I added Hammerhead
    • Added 8 subtrack.
    • Programmed a beat in Zenbeats midi editor
    • I could see the sound bar moving to the beat on each sub track
    • Clicked Render song in the upper right corner.
    • Selected render song

    Check any of the render buttons and try?

    /DMfan🇸🇪

  • @DMfan said:
    Hey Roland Zenbeats users, lovers and everyone else!

    Would love to see some more inspirational action using Roland Zenbeats apart from myself!

    I am shamelessy linking to my two covers shared in the Creation thread below, come on people! Can it inspire just ONE person I would be very happy! I do this as a hobby. There are obviously much more talented people using the app as well🤣. Let’s hear what you can do with Roland Zenbeats!

    Yes, we have many wishes for it but it is still a fully functional AND operational DAW. Nevertheless, keep the feedback coming. The Roland team is actively listening but development takes time, and needs to be synced across four platforms.

    /DMfan🇸🇪

    They both sound great! It’s not easy to make a good cover 👌

  • edited September 2023

    @Jer4 said:
    They both sound great! It’s not easy to make a good cover 👌

    Thanks man!😁

    (I see I have to correct myself… one is a cover, the other one is technically a remix…oh well… just shows you can do as much with Roland Zenbeats as any other DAW.)

    /DMfan🇸🇪

  • edited September 2023

    Nothing to do with zb3, I don’t know why outside of dRambo i don’t like what I’ve made past couple of months.(edit - aside from some audio editing it does everything I need it to. It’s def a full Daw , it’s just my own skill I mean, to support your point )

    I’m wasting too much time trying too hard to fit things that don’t belong because I’m new to digital and I’m I’m probably trying way too hard to integrate my instrument (piano and guitar) with my electronic trap stuff and it sounds good when I jam but when I try to get it down in ZB3 I don’t like what I made.

    Like one is synthesizers and the other isn’t and trying to mix them is something I can’t figure out , I can’t even get to mastering. I actually joined because of Zenbeats 3 and all of the information I was getting here it got to the point where I said I want to start posting in creations but before I do I better consult. I had some questions about apps too and then I won one. Anyway I asked someone about one song I thought might be close and it was a hard no to posting online.

    Until I make a track worthy of release it will have to wait otherwise i would be embarrassed putting my stuff up near yours @DMfan rofl like and embarrass zb3 so I’m frustrated with my attempts at making a good song the way I used to when I had a producer (not self produced ). No excuses, gotta just let the music flow.

  • @dreamcartel said:
    Nothing to do with zb3, I don’t know why outside of dRambo i don’t like what I’ve made past couple of months.(edit - aside from some audio editing it does everything I need it to. It’s def a full Daw , it’s just my own skill I mean, to support your point )

    I’m wasting too much time trying too hard to fit things that don’t belong because I’m new to digital and I’m I’m probably trying way too hard to integrate my instrument (piano and guitar) with my electronic trap stuff and it sounds good when I jam but when I try to get it down in ZB3 I don’t like what I made.

    Like one is synthesizers and the other isn’t and trying to mix them is something I can’t figure out , I can’t even get to mastering. I actually joined because of Zenbeats 3 and all of the information I was getting here it got to the point where I said I want to start posting in creations but before I do I better consult. I had some questions about apps too and then I won one. Anyway I asked someone about one song I thought might be close and it was a hard no to posting online.

    Until I make a track worthy of release it will have to wait otherwise i would be embarrassed putting my stuff up near yours @DMfan rofl like and embarrass zb3 so I’m frustrated with my attempts at making a good song the way I used to when I had a producer (not self produced ). No excuses, gotta just let the music flow.

    Don’t be too hard on yourself. It sounds like you are…

    PM me and I’ll cheer you up so we can keep the thread focused on Roland Zenbeats.

    😊

    /DMfan🇸🇪

  • Damn, half off Max Unlock V3 is very tempting. I have limited space on my mini M1. Ableton takes most of the hard drive with save files, samples, stems and such sitting on an external drive. Can I run Zenbeats in a similar manner? DAW on the mini’s hard drive and everything else on my external drive?

  • @Sawiton said:
    Damn, half off Max Unlock V3 is very tempting. I have limited space on my mini M1. Ableton takes most of the hard drive with save files, samples, stems and such sitting on an external drive. Can I run Zenbeats in a similar manner? DAW on the mini’s hard drive and everything else on my external drive?

    Looks like ZB4 is close ;)

  • @MAtrixplan said:

    @Sawiton said:
    Damn, half off Max Unlock V3 is very tempting. I have limited space on my mini M1. Ableton takes most of the hard drive with save files, samples, stems and such sitting on an external drive. Can I run Zenbeats in a similar manner? DAW on the mini’s hard drive and everything else on my external drive?

    Looks like ZB4 is close ;)

    So I should wait?

  • I would imagine there’s an upgrade fee. I don’t know what it would e> @DMfan said:

    @dreamcartel said:
    Nothing to do with zb3, I don’t know why outside of dRambo i don’t like what I’ve made past couple of months.(edit - aside from some audio editing it does everything I need it to. It’s def a full Daw , it’s just my own skill I mean, to support your point )

    I’m wasting too much time trying too hard to fit things that don’t belong because I’m new to digital and I’m I’m probably trying way too hard to integrate my instrument (piano and guitar) with my electronic trap stuff and it sounds good when I jam but when I try to get it down in ZB3 I don’t like what I made.

    Like one is synthesizers and the other isn’t and trying to mix them is something I can’t figure out , I can’t even get to mastering. I actually joined because of Zenbeats 3 and all of the information I was getting here it got to the point where I said I want to start posting in creations but before I do I better consult. I had some questions about apps too and then I won one. Anyway I asked someone about one song I thought might be close and it was a hard no to posting online.

    Until I make a track worthy of release it will have to wait otherwise i would be embarrassed putting my stuff up near yours @DMfan rofl like and embarrass zb3 so I’m frustrated with my attempts at making a good song the way I used to when I had a producer (not self produced ). No excuses, gotta just let the music flow.

    Don’t be too hard on yourself. It sounds like you are…

    PM me and I’ll cheer you up so we can keep the thread focused on Roland Zenbeats.

    😊

    /DMfan🇸🇪

    Thanks

    @MAtrixplan said:

    @Sawiton said:
    Damn, half off Max Unlock V3 is very tempting. I have limited space on my mini M1. Ableton takes most of the hard drive with save files, samples, stems and such sitting on an external drive. Can I run Zenbeats in a similar manner? DAW on the mini’s hard drive and everything else on my external drive?

    Looks like ZB4 is close ;)

    Really? Did you hear more?

  • I downloaded the Zenbeats installer, ran it and installed ZBs on my mini’s HD. When I open it and go into “settings” it has an option to move my “user” folder but won’t let me move it to an external HD. I CAN load a song I copied to the external HD. Can I make some kind of symlink on my mini’s HD that would direct input and output to a folder on my external HD? of course that doesn’t cover where Zenbeats loops and sounds, etc. go to. I don’t think this is going to work with the setup I have.

  • @MAtrixplan said:

    @Sawiton said:
    Damn, half off Max Unlock V3 is very tempting. I have limited space on my mini M1. Ableton takes most of the hard drive with save files, samples, stems and such sitting on an external drive. Can I run Zenbeats in a similar manner? DAW on the mini’s hard drive and everything else on my external drive?

    Looks like ZB4 is close ;)

    That is great news. I am liking ZB3 more and more.

    I can’t wait to post my first tune in Zenbeats. 25 tracks was a blast to create. But I am still fighting the Hammerhead export. 🙁

  • @ecou said:

    @MAtrixplan said:

    @Sawiton said:
    Damn, half off Max Unlock V3 is very tempting. I have limited space on my mini M1. Ableton takes most of the hard drive with save files, samples, stems and such sitting on an external drive. Can I run Zenbeats in a similar manner? DAW on the mini’s hard drive and everything else on my external drive?

    Looks like ZB4 is close ;)

    That is great news. I am liking ZB3 more and more.

    I can’t wait to post my first tune in Zenbeats. 25 tracks was a blast to create. But I am still fighting the Hammerhead export. 🙁

    Hammerhead doesn’t work for you? It goes blank on me sometimes too. I wonder why

  • @dreamcartel said:

    @ecou said:

    @MAtrixplan said:

    @Sawiton said:
    Damn, half off Max Unlock V3 is very tempting. I have limited space on my mini M1. Ableton takes most of the hard drive with save files, samples, stems and such sitting on an external drive. Can I run Zenbeats in a similar manner? DAW on the mini’s hard drive and everything else on my external drive?

    Looks like ZB4 is close ;)

    That is great news. I am liking ZB3 more and more.

    I can’t wait to post my first tune in Zenbeats. 25 tracks was a blast to create. But I am still fighting the Hammerhead export. 🙁

    Hammerhead doesn’t work for you? It goes blank on me sometimes too. I wonder why

    I have had other auv3 go blank but not Hammerhead. I have a problem exporting multi output. Right now I am trying muting all HH input but one and rendering. I am going to have to do 8 stems render. Hoping they sync on import.

  • Is there any way to record cc74 midi data into Zenbeats?
    It says that it's MPE compatible but it doesn't seem to record MPE data other than pitch bend...

  • Where did ZB4 being close come from? Has this been validated by anyone?

  • @MAtrixplan said:

    @Sawiton said:
    Damn, half off Max Unlock V3 is very tempting. I have limited space on my mini M1. Ableton takes most of the hard drive with save files, samples, stems and such sitting on an external drive. Can I run Zenbeats in a similar manner? DAW on the mini’s hard drive and everything else on my external drive?

    Looks like ZB4 is close ;)

    Nope. Just running a good deal :-).

  • So after getting excited for LP4iP and then the subsequent let down of it not working for me, I finally opened up Zenbeats and started tinkering around and over the past few weeks have really grown to love this app. II’ll be honest, I had no idea it was as fully functioning as it is. I love using Koala for getting ideas started and pulling those into ZB is super easy. So is automating!! I’ve been going through all these mental gymnastics with Drambo and AUM to automate Koala stuff and it’s super easy in ZB. I almost feel like Roland isn’t promoting this app enough. I also honestly think that the store being face first and heavy-handed turns some people off and if they just made the app speak for itself and put the store more in the background, there would be more defectors. I’m pretty sure that’s why I never tried it in the past. I saw the store first and thought “oh they’re just trying to sell me stuff.” But it’s a really decent app with cross platform functionality which is amazing. Well done!

  • How do I recover a crashed session ?

    I had a mixing session with all my stems and Zenbeats crashed. Now when I re open my project all the stems audio files are missing.

  • @ecou said:
    How do I recover a crashed session ?

    I had a mixing session with all my stems and Zenbeats crashed. Now when I re open my project all the stems audio files are missing.

    Did you manage to render a mix with the stems before the crash, then you should be able to find them in your Roland Zenbeats user folder.

    /DMfan🇸🇪

  • edited September 2023

    @jobijobu said:
    So after getting excited for LP4iP and then the subsequent let down of it not working for me, I finally opened up Zenbeats and started tinkering around and over the past few weeks have really grown to love this app. II’ll be honest, I had no idea it was as fully functioning as it is. I love using Koala for getting ideas started and pulling those into ZB is super easy. So is automating!! I’ve been going through all these mental gymnastics with Drambo and AUM to automate Koala stuff and it’s super easy in ZB. I almost feel like Roland isn’t promoting this app enough. I also honestly think that the store being face first and heavy-handed turns some people off and if they just made the app speak for itself and put the store more in the background, there would be more defectors. I’m pretty sure that’s why I never tried it in the past. I saw the store first and thought “oh they’re just trying to sell me stuff.” But it’s a really decent app with cross platform functionality which is amazing. Well done!

    Nice it works well for you!

    Posts like yours is one of the best promotion ways of them all🙏.

    /DMfan🇸🇪

  • I should be a spokesman then because Zenbeats MADE ME GET A ROLAND S-1!

    :wink:

    Is there an app to route audio from IAA into an audio track? Or method? Or must you drop in. Wav ? (I don’t get why it had Ableton link if it doesn’t take other apps?)

  • edited September 2023

    @dreamcartel said:
    I should be a spokesman then because Zenbeats MADE ME GET A ROLAND S-1!

    :wink:

    Is there an app to route audio from IAA into an audio track? Or method? Or must you drop in. Wav ? (I don’t get why it had Ableton link if it doesn’t take other apps?)

    Not sure what exactly you want to do , could you give some info ?
    edit , ok I got it , there are workarounds but too much hassle , wav audio seems the fastest workaround

  • @dreamcartel said:
    I should be a spokesman then because Zenbeats MADE ME GET A ROLAND S-1!

    :wink:

    Is there an app to route audio from IAA into an audio track? Or method? Or must you drop in. Wav ? (I don’t get why it had Ableton link if it doesn’t take other apps?)

    Zenbeats is AUv3 only. You can sample IAA apps and use them as wav in ZR1 or Sampleverse.

    /DMfan🇸🇪

  • There are a few auv3 that can’t seem to work. But my main issue is with Drambo!

    Also Scalebud2 and tonality don’t work
    There are a few others too

    Why does the auv3 work here less well than Cubasis and dRambo ? Is there some Auv3 department for Roland to update or upgrade the system?

  • @dreamcartel said:
    There are a few auv3 that can’t seem to work. But my main issue is with Drambo!

    Also Scalebud2 and tonality don’t work
    There are a few others too

    Why does the auv3 work here less well than Cubasis and dRambo ? Is there some Auv3 department for Roland to update or upgrade the system?

    @MatthewAtZenbeats might be able to help here.

    Did you try checking/changing the sample rate or anything?

    Unfortunately I can’t try it at the moment, I had to temporarily offload it until I get a new iPad due to storage limitations.

  • wimwim
    edited September 2023

    @dreamcartel said:
    There are a few auv3 that can’t seem to work. But my main issue is with Drambo!

    Can you be more specific? I'm happy to do some testing, but there's no point if I don't know what to look for.

    Also Scalebud2 and tonality don’t work

    Same. I have those two apps so I can try to recreate your issues if you describe what you've tried and what happens.

    There are a few others too

    Why does the auv3 work here less well than Cubasis and dRambo ? Is there some Auv3 department for Roland to update or upgrade the system?

    I'm sure they're keen to fix any problems they know about, but they can't know about every issue unless people report them. There's a support link right in the app. That might be a place to start.

  • @wim said:

    @dreamcartel said:
    There are a few auv3 that can’t seem to work. But my main issue is with Drambo!

    Can you be more specific? I'm happy to do some testing, but there's no point if I don't know what to look for.

    I’ll try. Drambo doesn’t record patterns to the auv3 pattern clips. It also doesn’t play back when I click play when I manually enter notes and chords. In Cubasis you can click the W and R and it click the record on the transport j the auv3 so when you hit record on Cubasis transport it records to the auv3 clip launcher, and you can play clips or launch clips from the dRambo auv3 in Cubasis . This doesn’t work for me in Zenbeats. I can elaborate if you need more info but I’m not sure how or what else to add.

    Also Scalebud2 and tonality don’t work

    Same. I have those two apps so I can try to recreate your issues if you describe what you've tried and what happens.

    They play the track output but it doesn’t record to the actual pattern. It plays through, but it doesn’t record. I’m dRambo there is a “rec” button for this and in Cubasis it’s “write to track”. Perhaps I don’t see where to enable this in Zenbeats ? They need to be disabled In Cubasis and dRambo for playback but they record and work as they should.

    There are a few others too

    Why does the auv3 work here less well than Cubasis and dRambo ? Is there some Auv3 department for Roland to update or upgrade the system?

    I'm sure they're keen to fix any problems they know about, but they can't know about every issue unless people report them. There's a support link right in the app. That might be a place to start.

    I let the dev know too that their apps don’t work, but some responded saying tell Roland and others ignored That’s good to know Zenbeats is watching for bugs and updates. I just hope it’s something easy to fix .

  • They play the track output but it doesn’t record to the actual pattern. It plays through, but it doesn’t record. I’m dRambo there is a “rec” button for this and in Cubasis it’s “write to track”. Perhaps I don’t see where to enable this in Zenbeats ? They need to be disabled In Cubasis and dRambo for playback but they record and work as they should.

    Have you enabled “Print Midi FX” on the channel you have an AUV3 on?
    You get to it via the midi tab as follows:

  • Thanks @zzrwood. That was my first suggestion as well but I was away from the computer for awhile. Waiting now to hear back from @dreamcartel whether this is working for them now.

  • edited September 2023

    @dreamcartel said:
    There are a few auv3 that can’t seem to work. But my main issue is with Drambo!

    Also Scalebud2 and tonality don’t work
    There are a few others too

    Why does the auv3 work here less well than Cubasis and dRambo ? Is there some Auv3 department for Roland to update or upgrade the system?

    AUv3s not recognized or not working is a high priority for the dev. Please report what apps won’t work in Roland Zenbeats in the app itself for action to be taken. You can also report here and have others users verify the issue. Roland and others involved read this thread as well and will surely take note.

    If you download a new AUv3 don’t forget to update the AUv3 list in settings>plugins>scan for new.

    /DMfan🇸🇪

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