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  • @TurnItUp said:

    @Gavinski said:
    Curious if anyone knows:

    Let’s say you have Stage, if you want to upgrade to, say, Standard, you need to pay another 130 bucks. But what if you have also bought an additional 50 buck instrument in the meantime - will that 50 bucks spent mean that now you can now upgrade to Standard for only 80 bucks?

    That is the main gripe I am having over the price structure. Why not let us have a direct path to standard/pro minus the additional packs? Say $199 for standard, $249 for pro. It feels like $50 of each tier is going toward another instrument pack that I do not want right now. I would rather get packs on sale.

    Yeah - a bit annoying for sure

  • @McD said:
    I tried out the “Electric Guitars” in the Guitar pack and for me the most real sounding is the Electric Jazz preset used in the AUv3 instance in AUM and then run through one of the IOS Guitar Amp simulators from Nembrini, TH-U or Amplitube.

    The Electric Jazz sounds like the Yonac “Steel Guitar” tone and using an MPE Capable keyboard like GeoShred or Velocity Keyboard it sounds like a slide guitar. I have tried a solid MIDI controller with the pitch bend controller in a Jan Hammer style but I’m sure it will be convincing.

    The model doesn’t seem to have a heavy pick sound suitable for Country styles but with the MPE support it can emulate a steel guitar with individual note bends.

    Did you have to change anything in Pianoteq settings to enable pitch bend McD?

  • heshes
    edited May 2023

    @Gavinski said:
    Curious if anyone knows:

    Let’s say you have Stage, if you want to upgrade to, say, Standard, you need to pay another 130 bucks. But what if you have also bought an additional 50 buck instrument in the meantime - will that 50 bucks spent mean that now you can now upgrade to Standard for only 80 bucks?

    No. At least not generally.

    I have heard of cases where people had bought lesser versions and then upgraded with several hundred dollars of individual piano packs. Then they decided that they wanted to upgrade to Studio version, the one that has everything. If you contact Modartt and explain that situation they may accommodate you with a reduction in price. But for simple case where you've bought a pack or two and want to upgrade, I doubt it. Maybe they would, but I would avoid wasting their time and nickel-and-diming them that way. I'm likely going to want another piano pack, anyway. YMMV.

    Also, another factoid about price that iOS people may be unused to: You can sell your Pianoteq license.

    Modartt has rules on how this can happen, and you have to coordinate with Modartt so person buying from you is able to register the license with new contact info.

    Modartt allows licenses to be sold only one time. I purchased a used Stage license from someone who advertised on Modartt forums (the typical way people sell, I think). I would have been unable to sell it. At some point I upgraded to Standard version, got a new product license, and I believe I'm now able to sell it. But anyone who purchased from me would be unable to sell the Standard license I sell them.

  • @Gavinski said:

    @McD said:
    I tried out the “Electric Guitars” in the Guitar pack and for me the most real sounding is the Electric Jazz preset used in the AUv3 instance in AUM and then run through one of the IOS Guitar Amp simulators from Nembrini, TH-U or Amplitube.

    The Electric Jazz sounds like the Yonac “Steel Guitar” tone and using an MPE Capable keyboard like GeoShred or Velocity Keyboard it sounds like a slide guitar. I have tried a solid MIDI controller with the pitch bend controller in a Jan Hammer style but I’m sure it will be convincing.

    The model doesn’t seem to have a heavy pick sound suitable for Country styles but with the MPE support it can emulate a steel guitar with individual note bends.

    Did you have to change anything in Pianoteq settings to enable pitch bend McD?

    No, if you look on Options, Midi page you'll see 'Pitch Bend' target is set up to respond to 'Pitch Bend' midi signals. However, the default range is -200 to 200, which is minus or plus 2 semitones. You can vary the range up to -2400 to +2400, or plus/minus two octaves.

  • McDMcD
    edited May 2023

    @hes said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @McD said:
    I tried out the “Electric Guitars” in the Guitar pack and for me the most real sounding is the Electric Jazz preset used in the AUv3 instance in AUM and then run through one of the IOS Guitar Amp simulators from Nembrini, TH-U or Amplitube.

    The Electric Jazz sounds like the Yonac “Steel Guitar” tone and using an MPE Capable keyboard like GeoShred or Velocity Keyboard it sounds like a slide guitar. I have tried a solid MIDI controller with the pitch bend controller in a Jan Hammer style but I’m sure it will be convincing.

    The model doesn’t seem to have a heavy pick sound suitable for Country styles but with the MPE support it can emulate a steel guitar with individual note bends.

    Did you have to change anything in Pianoteq settings to enable pitch bend McD?

    No, if you look on Options, Midi page you'll see 'Pitch Bend' target is set up to respond to 'Pitch Bend' midi signals. However, the default range is -200 to 200, which is minus or plus 2 semitones. You can vary the range up to -2400 to +2400, or plus/minus two octaves.

    PianoTeq does NOT respond to MPE polyphony. It has settings for what channel NOTES will come in on and the default is ANY channel. But it plays Monophonically for me.

    The User manual does not mention MPE at all.

  • @hes said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @McD said:
    I tried out the “Electric Guitars” in the Guitar pack and for me the most real sounding is the Electric Jazz preset used in the AUv3 instance in AUM and then run through one of the IOS Guitar Amp simulators from Nembrini, TH-U or Amplitube.

    The Electric Jazz sounds like the Yonac “Steel Guitar” tone and using an MPE Capable keyboard like GeoShred or Velocity Keyboard it sounds like a slide guitar. I have tried a solid MIDI controller with the pitch bend controller in a Jan Hammer style but I’m sure it will be convincing.

    The model doesn’t seem to have a heavy pick sound suitable for Country styles but with the MPE support it can emulate a steel guitar with individual note bends.

    Did you have to change anything in Pianoteq settings to enable pitch bend McD?

    No, if you look on Options, Midi page you'll see 'Pitch Bend' target is set up to respond to 'Pitch Bend' midi signals. However, the default range is -200 to 200, which is minus or plus 2 semitones. You can vary the range up to -2400 to +2400, or plus/minus two octaves.

    Cheers Hes, but surely there must be an mpe mode separate from the standard midi mode, otherwise how will it do per note pitch bends?

  • McDMcD
    edited May 2023

    Deleted text because my understanding of PianoTeq’s pitch bend behavior is NOT based on Note per Channel MPE.

  • Haha, yeah so this is not mpe, it seems, not by a long shot. Unless you have control of expression per note it is not mpe. End of, lol.

  • heshes
    edited May 2023

    This post is just to draw your attention to an interesting feature people might not otherwise notice.

    It's a feature on standalone versions of Pianoteq on both desktop and iOS. I haven't been able to get it working on iOS and wonder if anyone else has, or is able to.

    Pianoteq can be set up to automatically record all your playing as midi files. Midi files are quite lightweight and it's no problem to have this always set to on. This feature is available only when you're running the standalone version of Pteq, not as AUv3. I think it's on by default on desktop versions, but it may need to be 'enabled' on iOS.

    Pteq will automatically break your playing into separate files; I think this is done automatically based when a long time has passed between key presses. These auto recorded files are given names based on date and time, so you can go back and look up what you played so long as you remember when you played it. It's quite slick to use, very clever feature. Just whenever you want to review something you played, you can go find the midi file, play it back, and export if you want.

    You can find settings for this feature by clicking on 'Blues Demo' in upper right, which will show menu with 'Recently played on the keyboard'. Then choose 'MIDI Archiving Settings' to enable. The files are supposed to be stored in the 'Archive' directory, not sure where that is located. Maybe that's part of my problem, because I don't see any 'Pianoteq' or 'Archive' folder in my 'On My iPad' section in File App. I also have iCloud disabled, don't know if that's relevant.

  • @Gavinski said:

    @hes said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @McD said:
    I tried out the “Electric Guitars” in the Guitar pack and for me the most real sounding is the Electric Jazz preset used in the AUv3 instance in AUM and then run through one of the IOS Guitar Amp simulators from Nembrini, TH-U or Amplitube.

    The Electric Jazz sounds like the Yonac “Steel Guitar” tone and using an MPE Capable keyboard like GeoShred or Velocity Keyboard it sounds like a slide guitar. I have tried a solid MIDI controller with the pitch bend controller in a Jan Hammer style but I’m sure it will be convincing.

    The model doesn’t seem to have a heavy pick sound suitable for Country styles but with the MPE support it can emulate a steel guitar with individual note bends.

    Did you have to change anything in Pianoteq settings to enable pitch bend McD?

    No, if you look on Options, Midi page you'll see 'Pitch Bend' target is set up to respond to 'Pitch Bend' midi signals. However, the default range is -200 to 200, which is minus or plus 2 semitones. You can vary the range up to -2400 to +2400, or plus/minus two octaves.

    Cheers Hes, but surely there must be an mpe mode separate from the standard midi mode, otherwise how will it do per note pitch bends?

    The User Manual doesn’t mention MPE at all.

  • @McD said:
    PianoTeq will increase revenue by:
    1. Adding more users and IOS will help here
    2. Selling users level upgrades
    3. Introducing new instrument packs
    4. Creating new versions with upgrade fees

    I doubt they will change the 3 authorizations on any platform. I hope they keep all IOS count as 1 authorization.

    You may notice you pay them directly and the Apple Store is used to download the free software demo. But Stage, Standard, Pro or Studio requires a credit card or PayPal transaction with Modartt or a reseller. Maybe this will become standard with the big companies.

    PianoTeq will make a lot of pianists buy iPads and iPhones. Then they might show up here like @LinearLineman with questions and performances. PianoTeq also runs a forum but it’s pretty tame and fixated on typical piano nerd concerns.

    I think I’ll make a Mozaic script to handle the 4 pedals like the mysterious Celeste pedal that raises the felt layer up and down. Hopefully by degrees and not a Boolean on/off… it is a mystical model, right?

    This is true. My fellow musician friend is thinking of upgrading his iPad just for Pianoteq.

  • @hes said:

    @Gavinski said:
    Curious if anyone knows:

    Let’s say you have Stage, if you want to upgrade to, say, Standard, you need to pay another 130 bucks. But what if you have also bought an additional 50 buck instrument in the meantime - will that 50 bucks spent mean that now you can now upgrade to Standard for only 80 bucks?

    No. At least not generally.

    I have heard of cases where people had bought lesser versions and then upgraded with several hundred dollars of individual piano packs. Then they decided that they wanted to upgrade to Studio version, the one that has everything. If you contact Modartt and explain that situation they may accommodate you with a reduction in price. But for simple case where you've bought a pack or two and want to upgrade, I doubt it. Maybe they would, but I would avoid wasting their time and nickel-and-diming them that way. I'm likely going to want another piano pack, anyway. YMMV.

    Also, another factoid about price that iOS people may be unused to: You can sell your Pianoteq license.

    Modartt has rules on how this can happen, and you have to coordinate with Modartt so person buying from you is able to register the license with new contact info.

    Modartt allows licenses to be sold only one time. I purchased a used Stage license from someone who advertised on Modartt forums (the typical way people sell, I think). I would have been unable to sell it. At some point I upgraded to Standard version, got a new product license, and I believe I'm now able to sell it. But anyone who purchased from me would be unable to sell the Standard license I sell them.

    So basically you need to have an idea of exactly what you want before you buy. This is a slight bummer as it makes me not want to add packs in case I upgrade to Studio at some point.

  • Why do people think it is MPE? I’ve seen references to it supporting polyphonic pitchbend but nothing on the modartt site claiming MPE.

  • @Gavinski said:

    @hes said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @McD said:
    I tried out the “Electric Guitars” in the Guitar pack and for me the most real sounding is the Electric Jazz preset used in the AUv3 instance in AUM and then run through one of the IOS Guitar Amp simulators from Nembrini, TH-U or Amplitube.

    The Electric Jazz sounds like the Yonac “Steel Guitar” tone and using an MPE Capable keyboard like GeoShred or Velocity Keyboard it sounds like a slide guitar. I have tried a solid MIDI controller with the pitch bend controller in a Jan Hammer style but I’m sure it will be convincing.

    The model doesn’t seem to have a heavy pick sound suitable for Country styles but with the MPE support it can emulate a steel guitar with individual note bends.

    Did you have to change anything in Pianoteq settings to enable pitch bend McD?

    No, if you look on Options, Midi page you'll see 'Pitch Bend' target is set up to respond to 'Pitch Bend' midi signals. However, the default range is -200 to 200, which is minus or plus 2 semitones. You can vary the range up to -2400 to +2400, or plus/minus two octaves.

    Cheers Hes, but surely there must be an mpe mode separate from the standard midi mode, otherwise how will it do per note pitch bends?

    Yes, I've run it with my Linnstrument as controller and Linnstrument in note-per-channel mode. I believe configuration in this case is automatic, that there's some message MPE controllers send when they're connected and that Pianoteq automatically switches to note-per-channel mode whenever an MPE controller is connected. So only thing I changed was to set Pitch Bend range from 2 semitones to 24 semitones.

    Pianoteq supports polyphonic aftertouch for controllers that have it, but I don't think it configures automatically. In that case I think you want to go to Options, Midi page and change the source of 'Pitch Bend' messages from 'Pitch Bend' to 'Channel pressure (aftertouch)'.

  • @espiegel123 said:
    Why do people think it is MPE? I’ve seen references to it supporting polyphonic pitchbend but nothing on the modartt site claiming MPE.

    Yeah, I don't think i'ts mentioned in the manual or in features. But you can find mention of it in forums. And, as I said, I have connected my Linnstrument and it runs fine in note-per-channel MPE mode.

    Here's what Roger Linn says about it in his Linnstrument documentation:

    ===============================
    Though PianoTeq is not fully MPE-compatible, it does support polyphonic pitch bends when used with LinnStrument set to MPE settings. It does not have per-note continuous parameters that could respond to LinnStrument's continuous finger pressure or Y-axis control, but these elements aren't so useful on a piano-style synth anyway.

    To use PianoTeq with LinnStrument, set LinnStrument for normal MPE play except that you must set LinnStrument's Bend Range (in Per-Split Settings) to "+/-24", because this is the maximum bend range in PianoTeq. This is done in Per-Split Settings > Bend Range column, then HOLD "+/- 24" and slide your finger to change the displayed value to 24.

    In PianoTeq, the only change you'll need to make is to change its default Bend Range from 2 to 24. To do this, in the main PianoTeq window click "Options", then in the subsequent window select the "MIDI" tab at top. Then in the listing of MIDI controllers, scroll to the Pitch Bend line and set the two "Range" boxes to -2400 and +2400.

    In this same listing of MIDI controllers, note that CC74 (Y-axis control for MPE controllers) is set by default to "Hammer Hardness". So by striking LinnStrument's note pads in different Y-axis locations, you will vary the hammer hardness. Note that this only affects the initial strike and subsequent continuous Y-axis movements are ignored.

    =================================

  • Just want to recommend people check out the demos and info at the Modartt site. It made understanding the available instruments and a lot of presets quite easy.

    The pianos all seem to be above average including the K2 a totally made up Pianoteq grand.
    I might be leaning toward the Petrofs over the D. Have to listen more. Shocking. More clarity? IDK.
    The Grotrian is quite good, too.
    Why no Yamahas or Kawai? Couldn’t reach agreement, I guess.

    The free instruments are pretty impressive for free. Two Harpsichords, two Pleyel Pianos, a decent Pianoforte.

    They do a split with bass and piano. Where’s that bass from?
    The classical guitar is excellent, of course.

  • McDMcD
    edited May 2023

    @LinearLineman said:
    Why no Yamahas or Kawai? Couldn’t reach agreement, I guess.

    The YC5 Grand is intended to be a Yamaha C5 Model: “ modelled from a well known Japanese grand piano,” Yamaha probably did NOT agree to let Modartt refer to their product like the others do.

    I think the K2 is a probably aimed at a Kawai but you would be the judge of that since you’ve played a lot of Kawai Digital pianos.

  • @LinearLineman said:
    Just want to recommend people check out the demos and info at the Modartt site. It made understanding the available instruments and a lot of presets quite easy.

    The pianos all seem to be above average including the K2 a totally made up Pianoteq grand.
    I might be leaning toward the Petrofs over the D. Have to listen more. Shocking. More clarity? IDK.
    The Grotrian is quite good, too.
    Why no Yamahas or Kawai? Couldn’t reach agreement, I guess.

    The free instruments are pretty impressive for free. Two Harpsichords, two Pleyel Pianos, a decent Pianoforte.

    They do a split with bass and piano. Where’s that bass from?
    The classical guitar is excellent, of course.

    Doesn’t it come with a free CP-80 as well? I’m really liking the Petrof as well but the Steinway is classic and has always struck me as the most all around versatile.

    Right now I’m thinking Steinway/Petrof, Tines, and Hohner but that could change. I think I’m happy enough with the demos for everything else until I pick up an extra pack.

  • @McD said:

    @LinearLineman said:
    Why no Yamahas or Kawai? Couldn’t reach agreement, I guess.

    The YC5 Grand is intended to be a Yamaha C5 Model: “ modelled from a well known Japanese grand piano,” Yamaha probably did NOT agree to let Modartt refer to their product like the others do.

    I think the K2 is a probably aimed at a Kawai but you would be the judge of that since you’ve played a lot of Kawai Digital pianos.

    That makes sense. I like the sound of the YC piano.

  • @HotStrange said:

    @LinearLineman said:
    Just want to recommend people check out the demos and info at the Modartt site. It made understanding the available instruments and a lot of presets quite easy.

    The pianos all seem to be above average including the K2 a totally made up Pianoteq grand.
    I might be leaning toward the Petrofs over the D. Have to listen more. Shocking. More clarity? IDK.
    The Grotrian is quite good, too.
    Why no Yamahas or Kawai? Couldn’t reach agreement, I guess.

    The free instruments are pretty impressive for free. Two Harpsichords, two Pleyel Pianos, a decent Pianoforte.

    They do a split with bass and piano. Where’s that bass from?
    The classical guitar is excellent, of course.

    Doesn’t it come with a free CP-80 as well? I’m really liking the Petrof as well but the Steinway is classic and has always struck me as the most all around versatile.

    Right now I’m thinking Steinway/Petrof, Tines, and Hohner but that could change. I think I’m happy enough with the demos for everything else until I pick up an extra pack.

    I think I absolutely HAVE to get the Hohner pack lol. The missing keys in the demo do start to get a bit annoying after a while - as someone said earlier, that's how they get you!

    The morphing and layering features are brilliant. Make me fantasise about having the studio version with all of them, just keep hitting random on morphing and see what it comes up with. For someone who likes sound design and experimentation, but tends to like natural acoustic sounds more than many synth type sounds, this is a dream, though I'd still probably be even more excited about a Plasmonic port. If you don't have all the instruments you can still use the paid instruments for morphing (at least if you have stage, or use the Stage or Pro demo modes) but there are quite a few annoying pop ups when dealing with instruments you haven't actually bought in the morph mode.

  • @Gavinski said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @LinearLineman said:
    Just want to recommend people check out the demos and info at the Modartt site. It made understanding the available instruments and a lot of presets quite easy.

    The pianos all seem to be above average including the K2 a totally made up Pianoteq grand.
    I might be leaning toward the Petrofs over the D. Have to listen more. Shocking. More clarity? IDK.
    The Grotrian is quite good, too.
    Why no Yamahas or Kawai? Couldn’t reach agreement, I guess.

    The free instruments are pretty impressive for free. Two Harpsichords, two Pleyel Pianos, a decent Pianoforte.

    They do a split with bass and piano. Where’s that bass from?
    The classical guitar is excellent, of course.

    Doesn’t it come with a free CP-80 as well? I’m really liking the Petrof as well but the Steinway is classic and has always struck me as the most all around versatile.

    Right now I’m thinking Steinway/Petrof, Tines, and Hohner but that could change. I think I’m happy enough with the demos for everything else until I pick up an extra pack.

    I think I absolutely HAVE to get the Hohner pack lol. The missing keys in the demo do start to get a bit annoying after a while - as someone said earlier, that's how they get you!

    The morphing and layering features are brilliant. Make me fantasise about having the studio version with all of them, just keep hitting random on morphing and see what it comes up with. For someone who likes sound design and experimentation, but tends to like natural acoustic sounds more than many synth type sounds, this is a dream, though I'd still probably be even more excited about a Plasmonic port. If you don't have all the instruments you can still use the paid instruments for morphing (at least if you have stage, or use the Stage or Pro demo modes) but there are quite a few annoying pop ups when dealing with instruments you haven't actually bought in the morph mode.

    Slightly OT, but have you come across/created any remotely convincing pianos for plasmonic?

  • @Krupa said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @LinearLineman said:
    Just want to recommend people check out the demos and info at the Modartt site. It made understanding the available instruments and a lot of presets quite easy.

    The pianos all seem to be above average including the K2 a totally made up Pianoteq grand.
    I might be leaning toward the Petrofs over the D. Have to listen more. Shocking. More clarity? IDK.
    The Grotrian is quite good, too.
    Why no Yamahas or Kawai? Couldn’t reach agreement, I guess.

    The free instruments are pretty impressive for free. Two Harpsichords, two Pleyel Pianos, a decent Pianoforte.

    They do a split with bass and piano. Where’s that bass from?
    The classical guitar is excellent, of course.

    Doesn’t it come with a free CP-80 as well? I’m really liking the Petrof as well but the Steinway is classic and has always struck me as the most all around versatile.

    Right now I’m thinking Steinway/Petrof, Tines, and Hohner but that could change. I think I’m happy enough with the demos for everything else until I pick up an extra pack.

    I think I absolutely HAVE to get the Hohner pack lol. The missing keys in the demo do start to get a bit annoying after a while - as someone said earlier, that's how they get you!

    The morphing and layering features are brilliant. Make me fantasise about having the studio version with all of them, just keep hitting random on morphing and see what it comes up with. For someone who likes sound design and experimentation, but tends to like natural acoustic sounds more than many synth type sounds, this is a dream, though I'd still probably be even more excited about a Plasmonic port. If you don't have all the instruments you can still use the paid instruments for morphing (at least if you have stage, or use the Stage or Pro demo modes) but there are quite a few annoying pop ups when dealing with instruments you haven't actually bought in the morph mode.

    Slightly OT, but have you come across/created any remotely convincing pianos for plasmonic?

    My laptop is broken, and I hate laptop anyway, so I haven't even touched Plasmonic in over a year, as great as it is

  • @Gavinski said:

    @Krupa said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @LinearLineman said:
    Just want to recommend people check out the demos and info at the Modartt site. It made understanding the available instruments and a lot of presets quite easy.

    The pianos all seem to be above average including the K2 a totally made up Pianoteq grand.
    I might be leaning toward the Petrofs over the D. Have to listen more. Shocking. More clarity? IDK.
    The Grotrian is quite good, too.
    Why no Yamahas or Kawai? Couldn’t reach agreement, I guess.

    The free instruments are pretty impressive for free. Two Harpsichords, two Pleyel Pianos, a decent Pianoforte.

    They do a split with bass and piano. Where’s that bass from?
    The classical guitar is excellent, of course.

    Doesn’t it come with a free CP-80 as well? I’m really liking the Petrof as well but the Steinway is classic and has always struck me as the most all around versatile.

    Right now I’m thinking Steinway/Petrof, Tines, and Hohner but that could change. I think I’m happy enough with the demos for everything else until I pick up an extra pack.

    I think I absolutely HAVE to get the Hohner pack lol. The missing keys in the demo do start to get a bit annoying after a while - as someone said earlier, that's how they get you!

    The morphing and layering features are brilliant. Make me fantasise about having the studio version with all of them, just keep hitting random on morphing and see what it comes up with. For someone who likes sound design and experimentation, but tends to like natural acoustic sounds more than many synth type sounds, this is a dream, though I'd still probably be even more excited about a Plasmonic port. If you don't have all the instruments you can still use the paid instruments for morphing (at least if you have stage, or use the Stage or Pro demo modes) but there are quite a few annoying pop ups when dealing with instruments you haven't actually bought in the morph mode.

    Slightly OT, but have you come across/created any remotely convincing pianos for plasmonic?

    My laptop is broken, and I hate laptop anyway, so I haven't even touched Plasmonic in over a year, as great as it is

    Fair play, anyone else?

  • I’ll be saving up iTunes gift cards for this one. It will be a long while, lol. In the meantime I’ll have time to decide which 2 packs suit me the most. I’m liking petrof the best so far, it seems to have a little more character or something I like.

  • Have to say, the Pianoteq 8 morphing feature is incredible - check out the difference between a morphed example with 3 instruments (the first instance you hear) and a layered example using the same 3 presets (2nd instance), both set to the same mix values. The morphed one is so much more beautiful and organic sounding.

    https://youtube.com/shorts/walvR3duESI

  • edited May 2023

    Does the sustain pedal allow for half-pedalling?
    And has anyone tried the Vibes? Do they allow you to engage/disengage the tremolo effect on the fly?

  • heshes
    edited May 2023

    @TimRussell said:
    Does the sustain pedal allow for half-pedalling?

    Yes, sustain (and all the other pedals) respond continuously to midi messages ranging from 0 to 127. I believe it's the only piano on iOS where sustain is not an on/off switch.

    And has anyone tried the Vibes? Do they allow you to engage/disengage the tremolo effect on the fly?

    Yes, just tried. Can turn tremolo on/off or vary rate and/or depth on the fly, seems to affect even notes that have already been played that are in sustain. I'm not a tremolo afficionado, don't know how built-in tremolo compares to tremolo in a separate AUv3 effect plugin, which you could also use, and also modify on the fly.

  • @hes said:

    @TimRussell said:
    Does the sustain pedal allow for half-pedalling?

    Yes, sustain (and all the other pedals) respond continuously to midi messages ranging from 0 to 127. I believe it's the only piano on iOS where sustain is not an on/off switch.

    And has anyone tried the Vibes? Do they allow you to engage/disengage the tremolo effect on the fly?

    Yes, just tried. Can turn tremolo on/off and/or vary depth on the fly, seems to affect even notes that have already been played that are in sustain.

    This is great - thanks for the info. Didn’t know it and just checked with Xequence AU Keys using the midi sustain slider there. I have so often wished for this in so many apps. Thanks Hes!

  • For clarity’s sake, for anyone trying, the sustain only engages once the midi sustain value is above 64, and thereafter its effect is incremental. Brilliant!

  • @Gavinski said:
    For clarity’s sake, for anyone trying, the sustain only engages once the midi sustain value is above 64, and thereafter its effect is incremental. Brilliant!

    That may be the behavior you're observing, but I believe this is only because of the response curve set for 'Pedal'. I'm sure the Pteq model itself responds variously to midi 0 to 127, but you can control the Pedal response curve just like you can the Velocity curve. To see the various response curves arrow through the set of them on screen where you see (by default) the velocity curve.

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