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Thank you.
Sweet. I guess it only works in standalone then.
I think the MIDI player and its features, including archiving, are only available in standalone mode.
I see the entries in the menu, but it doesn't seem to work. Have you gotten it working?
So am I right in thinking you can’t jump from free straight to Standard?
This all sounds amazing fun, maybe if/when I get back to work I’ll get in on the pro ANS join in… It seems amazing that people haven’t been subverting the models before!
I think you meant to say "for Standard and Pro", both of them have these features. Beyond Standard version stuff, Pro mostly adds just some extra but less used per-note settings and the 192kHz processing that's not implemented (yet?) in iOS version.
Also, just a note about the free preset files that people upload on Modartt site. I expect most of them are presets created with Standard or Pro versions that modify these modeling parameters that aren't accessible in the Stage version. These presets can be loaded in Stage version and they'll run, but they won't modify any of the settings that aren't available in the Stage version's UI. So many of those user-uploaded presets won't be very useful for Stage version users.
The chart shows Standard can Note Edit 3 parameters: Volume, Detune and Attack Envelope
Pro can modify the rest on the menu I shared above. For sound design, I find Blooming Energy and Blooming Intertia to be cool for making a sitar like effect or fret less or acoustic bass instrument. I’m still discovering which can be useful.
Tweaking +/-12dB on overtones really changes an instruments spectral characteristics. So, I hope to find some others with Pro to share their inventions.
The most frustrating lack is the ability to apply ADSR like controls to Notes. We can delay the Attack and that takes the piano out of the sound entirely for long values and it starts to sound more like a bowed instrument or a synth. But not being able to dial back DECAY means we can’t force percussive attacks but they can be coerced by staccato MIDI events. There’s a parameter called Direct Sound Duration that might improve sustain. PLaying with it hasn’t been overwhelming.
There’s a lot to be done with Morphing and Layering to make this so much more than just a Piano designer.
This track was created entirely inside PianoTeq8 by importing a MIDI file of
“A Child is Born” and created a 3 instruments Morph with each one tweaked like crazy to create something I liked. The reverb is the “Taj Mahal” preset for the Internal Impulse Reverb. I could share this sound with a Pro user has that the E-Piano, Petrof and Vibes packs to get the same sound. Now in AUM I could load yet another PianoTeq and send it more MIDI.
This Morphed Preset is a little less keyboard sounding with the Attacks rolled back… same MIDI file:
McD - as Hes said, all the cool stuff in that list can be done in Standard, you don’t need pro. Pro gives you the ability to edit any of those parameters for individual notes but for the overall sound of the instrument, all those can be done in Standard. Want to make your piano sound like a steel drum by raising the blooming energy or make a piano sound like a honky tonk by increasing unison width, or change the harmonics, you can do all that in standard. Want to adjust the blooming energy of a single note or a handful of notes in a particular instrument - you need pro to do that. Standard plows you to change a few parameters per note, but not the whole list like pro does. But both allow you to change globally all of the available physical modeling parameters. So, genuinely, few people need pro, or will have the patience or skill for good per-note editing, though I’m sure you could make some hella unique instruments if you want to dive in on a note per note basis!
Getting the full pro studio bundle however, can certainly be nice, as you get all the instruments. Do you need them all, especially all the pianos? Hmm…depends lol. But they’re a pleasure to explore and it is great to be able to pick from all the instruments when using the random morphing feature (otherwise the randomise feature will only choose from instruments you have actually bought). It is also great to be able to decide on a piece by piece basis which piano is going to sound best - or to be able to change through the pianos when it comes to mixing time and decide which one will suit best.
Direct Sound Duration is for the duration of the attack portion I think - playing with impedance is more going to affect sustain
Thanks to @hes and @gavinski for clarifying what Standard can edit. It sounds like the parameters can be edited as a singe value that is applied across all keys.
In Pro I can draw curves like negative on the bass end that slowly changes to positive on the right. Doing this for “cutoff” is how the “Bass Split” Presets work. I’d say this level of control for $89 is questionable for most. I knew I’d keep collecting instruments to at least the 14 level so I cut to the chase on went Studio and have Pro to play with. It is fun to have all the instruments and get any new ones for free.
I need to dig into the MIDI archiving feature. I thought I played some good stuff yesterday but the archive only stored single note data. That’s weird. Need to investigate.
I’d also like to layer 3 instruments using these tunings for A;
220 fundamental
440 1st overtone
660 2nd overtone
Could keep going
880
1100
That might make some organ like textures. You just pick “other” for the tuning and type in a number. I will wonder what the low and high limits are for this hack.
3:4 ratios will produce 4th (quartal) intervals.
330:440
Or 440:587 so a C midi note plays a C
Direct Sound Duration is for the duration of the attack portion I think - playing with impedance is more going to affect sustain> @McD said:
Yes, the splits feature sounds cool.
Does the midi archiving only work when u use the internal keyboard? I would guess so. I personally would never use that. Maybe it archives all incoming midi, which would be great tho
Thanks for the tip on the archiving, I had missed that. I will have to test later whether this can be used as a general purpose always on archiver, e.g. send everything from my keyboard to it while I’m doing something else in another app. I had some luck with https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/midi-recorder-with-e-piano/id1448577506 but started to find that the app had been swapped out by the OS if it had been open for too long and so had stopped recording in the background. Maybe PianoTeq is more resilient in this regard so I shall do some experimentation.
I chose the D and classical guitar. I have only really used the classical guitar so far but I do like what I hear! I can definitely see this motivating me to write classical guitar music as I have not been so impressed with the various sample based libraries on iOS up to now. Being someone who’s main instrument is the guitar, I have surprised myself with the lack of guitar music I have written, but that should change now. It will be interesting to pair the output of this app with the output of StaffPad to see how realistic it sounds with e.g. a flute and guitar.
It is also good to see an app using keyswitches for slides etc, though it took a bit of time to understand where the keyswitch note needed to be in relation to the notes you are trying to affect.
Any version can be bought directly when purchase is made from Modartt website. That's what I did and I am assuming that they get more money that way (no App store fee). Upgrades and instruments pack are also there.
The serial number works on all platforms.
You're welcome
@McD said:
Just to clarify: Standard can modify all those parameters, but applies the mods equally to all keys. Pro gives you the ability to edit them with different values applied depending on what key you're hitting. E.g., C1 can have different values than C7.
Not sure, but to some this might sound similar to difference between paraphonic and polyphonic. But it's not at all the same. Pianoteq, like a piano, is always polyphonic.
I'm curious whether you've found it useful to modify any of the modeling parameters on a per-note basis. I think per-note is mostly useful for excessively fastidious users who want to create greater realism (which I doubt they achieve, Pianoteq designers know better, I'm pretty sure, and have already made per-note adjustments to set the default behavior for each key). Not sure you can use the per-note stuff usefully for other purposes; I think modifying the parameter in Standard mode across all notes is usually what you want.
I've wondered if there's some way to get more control over decay by having two instances of Pianoteq running, one with zero sustain and one with sustain of 127, and send identical midi to both. Then you'd vary decay settings, and to some extent could even have sound re-increase after it has partially decayed, by modulating the mix between the two instances of Pianoteq. Not at all realistic, of coure, but maybe an interesting sound.
@hes
BTW... Your quote makes it look like I said that quoted comment, but it was McD. Maybe edit it? Cheers!
I agree btw that Pianoteq designers probably have better ears, much better, than most of us, combined with a lot of technical knowledge. Will u be able to tweak the Steinway D to sound like the Bluethner even if you have Pro? I highly doubt it!
The only real use for the Pro per note editing features that I can see, for me at least, or someone like me who is not a professional piano technician, so far, is using them to create highly experimental and unique instruments with all kinds of crazy variations over the keyboard range.
Perhaps micro tuning as well. Unless that’s already possible without pro…haven’t checked.
It is possible - definitely on standard, I think in stage too, but not sure. Check the site for the list of feature comparisons!
About decay, the global impedance level can reduce decay very nicely, in my limited experiments to date
I got to use Pianoteq in a live setting for the first time. My sound guy literally hugged me and said it was the best piano tone he’s ever heard coming from a computer. Fun times.
Agree 100%!
My ears hearing wonderful pianosound from Pianoteq, especially from Petrof Grand…
Yes, the 'Advanced Tuning' is in Standard Version and is separate feature from the per-note adjustment stuff. I think because even if you're micro tuning, you're not changing per-note settings in some haphazard way, there are always some rules about how tuning is applied (or you're reading from some kind of tuning file). But if you're doing some crazy tuning stuff, I think Standard version covers you there, too, because it includes the 'detune' adjustment on a per-note basis.
Use PianoTeq as a resonator FX.
Ie: you can add sympathetic string resonance to any incoming audio.
For now, the Mistral 284 has my preference over the Steinways. The basses are super clean and deep but that’s not the only reason.
I also like very much the Bechstein « sweet » preset.
I still have to try more the Steingraeber.
Unfortunately, I feel like the « old » grands which are lower - and hidden - in the menu are less visible, hence less tried. People -including myself - may be prone to think that the most recently released piano models are the best, which is a wrong reasoning.
Thanks for your thinking @Paulo164. I’m leaning toward the Petrofs and the D or classical guitar.
Has anyone tried this? Not sure how you do it on desktop. I think I read you just feed audio into Pianoteq and set its internal volume to 0. I wasn't sure how to feed audio into Pianoteq in AUM, can't put Pianoteq in effects slot. Maybe there's way to do that in AUM, or some other iOS host?
Same. I think I will take the Petrof.
Then I still hesitate between the Steinway D and the Guitar.
The D has a Hybrid preset where a vibraphone is morphed with the piano and the Guitar is a totally different and expressive instrument which has been recently released with v8.
The reason would advise to choose versatility with the guitar pack, then buy later a new grand piano pack in case the Petrof is not enough.
This is a test of Preset sharing… can we load them into a comment? Not with the *.fxp extension so I changed the extension using the Shortcut called “Rename” file to *.txt.
To install the Preset you would need to change the extension back to *fxp using the ShortCut “Rename File” or another method.
Maybe putting the file on the Modartt Preset Sharing site makes more sense. I will copy a couple there for testing.
I uploaded the Cavern Mood preset to the PianoTeq FXP site:
https://forum.modartt.com/fxpcorner/?version=pianoteq 8
Link to the Preset:
https://forum.modartt.com/file/bn2ee1wd
I had to convert the audio sample to MP3 using “TW Recorder” after paying for the audio converter upgrade for $4. I wonder if PianoTeq offered me the option to export as MP3?
I should check.
Thanks! So just go on their website to purchase Standard, then choose the 3 packs? And I’m assuming they give you a serial number to enter into the app?
WAV/FLAC/MP3
Cavern Mood, nice one, different kind of sound