[Logic Pro] My review - what's in and what's missing

jacou

Here’s a little reminder to use the Logic feedback form:

https://www.apple.com/feedback/logic-pro/

Obviously for bugs but also feature requests/improvements and……..payment systems?

[Deleted User]

Has anyone found a playing surface for the strings (violins etc.) that allows you to slide notes (e.g. like a real violin)?

I know how to remove the frets, and found the playing surface for each instrument, but they don’t slide. Couldn’t see anything in the instrument settings either.

Bit underwhelmed by the small selection of ‘real’ instruments, tbh.

[Deleted User]

@monz0id said:
Has anyone found a playing surface for the strings (violins etc.) that allows you to slide notes (e.g. like a real violin)?

I know how to remove the frets, and found the playing surface for each instrument, but they don’t slide. Couldn’t see anything in the instrument settings either.

Bit underwhelmed by the small selection of ‘real’ instruments, tbh.

GeoShred ?

[Deleted User]

@BerlinFx said:

@monz0id said:
Has anyone found a playing surface for the strings (violins etc.) that allows you to slide notes (e.g. like a real violin)?

I know how to remove the frets, and found the playing surface for each instrument, but they don’t slide. Couldn’t see anything in the instrument settings either.

Bit underwhelmed by the small selection of ‘real’ instruments, tbh.

GeoShred ?

Is there nothing built-in? I’m sure this was available in GarageBand, unless my memory’s playing tricks again.

[Deleted User]

@monz0id said:

@BerlinFx said:

@monz0id said:
Has anyone found a playing surface for the strings (violins etc.) that allows you to slide notes (e.g. like a real violin)?

I know how to remove the frets, and found the playing surface for each instrument, but they don’t slide. Couldn’t see anything in the instrument settings either.

Bit underwhelmed by the small selection of ‘real’ instruments, tbh.

GeoShred ?

Is there nothing built-in? I’m sure this was available in GarageBand, unless my memory’s playing tricks again.

See on the thread where I put all interesting Logic ios videos , I put today 3 new ones , one is just about surfaces playing on LP and how to manage , I was thinking toying when wI put it

https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/55721/a-thread-to-put-all-tutorials-texts-and-videos-links-about-logic-ios#latest

[Deleted User]

@monz0id said:

@BerlinFx said:

@monz0id said:
Has anyone found a playing surface for the strings (violins etc.) that allows you to slide notes (e.g. like a real violin)?

I know how to remove the frets, and found the playing surface for each instrument, but they don’t slide. Couldn’t see anything in the instrument settings either.

Bit underwhelmed by the small selection of ‘real’ instruments, tbh.

GeoShred ?

Is there nothing built-in? I’m sure this was available in GarageBand, unless my memory’s playing tricks again.

Hope this videos will help you , For violin you got chord strip and seems you can control many parameters in hidden menu. It could be your solution I hope. I have try it and it work great for me better than in GB.

[Deleted User]

@BerlinFx said:

@monz0id said:

@BerlinFx said:

@monz0id said:
Has anyone found a playing surface for the strings (violins etc.) that allows you to slide notes (e.g. like a real violin)?

I know how to remove the frets, and found the playing surface for each instrument, but they don’t slide. Couldn’t see anything in the instrument settings either.

Bit underwhelmed by the small selection of ‘real’ instruments, tbh.

GeoShred ?

Is there nothing built-in? I’m sure this was available in GarageBand, unless my memory’s playing tricks again.

See on the thread where I put all interesting Logic ios videos , I put today 3 new ones , one is just about surfaces playing on LP and how to manage , I was thinking toying when wI put it

https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/55721/a-thread-to-put-all-tutorials-texts-and-videos-links-about-logic-ios#latest

Thanks, but I can’t see anything about sliding notes. Looking through the documentation I’m starting to think it’s not possible: https://support.apple.com/en-gb/guide/logicpro-ipad/lpip5c448cc8/1.0/ipados/16.0

[Deleted User]

@BerlinFx said:

@monz0id said:

@BerlinFx said:

@monz0id said:
Has anyone found a playing surface for the strings (violins etc.) that allows you to slide notes (e.g. like a real violin)?

I know how to remove the frets, and found the playing surface for each instrument, but they don’t slide. Couldn’t see anything in the instrument settings either.

Bit underwhelmed by the small selection of ‘real’ instruments, tbh.

GeoShred ?

Is there nothing built-in? I’m sure this was available in GarageBand, unless my memory’s playing tricks again.

Hope this videos will help you , For violin you got chord strip and seems you can control many parameters in hidden menu. It could be your solution I hope. I have try it and it work great for me better than in GB.

You don’t really use chords on a violin. I’ve checked the settings, if you know where the option to create slides on the fretboard is, I’d like to know. There’s some silly fx settings that emulate it, but that’s not what I’m looking for.

NeuM

@monz0id said:

@BerlinFx said:

@monz0id said:
Has anyone found a playing surface for the strings (violins etc.) that allows you to slide notes (e.g. like a real violin)?

I know how to remove the frets, and found the playing surface for each instrument, but they don’t slide. Couldn’t see anything in the instrument settings either.

Bit underwhelmed by the small selection of ‘real’ instruments, tbh.

GeoShred ?

Is there nothing built-in? I’m sure this was available in GarageBand, unless my memory’s playing tricks again.

Easiest way is to use the "Pitch" setting on the built-in keyboard.

https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/comment/1209005#Comment_1209005

Again, I'm having to answer from the perspective of GarageBand and not Logic Pro... but there are several ways to play strings. One is to use the keyboard, the other is to use the stringed instrument neck. The keyboard requires you use the Pitch setting. The stringed instrument neck sort of closely simulates a real violin/viola neck insofar as it has few indicators of where the notes are. You can achieve a glissando effect using either interface, BUT (at least on GarageBand) you cannot later change the instrument or copy and paste the MIDI information if you use the instrument neck UI. This might be different on Logic Pro iPadOS.

[Deleted User]

@monz0id said:

@BerlinFx said:

@monz0id said:

@BerlinFx said:

@monz0id said:
Has anyone found a playing surface for the strings (violins etc.) that allows you to slide notes (e.g. like a real violin)?

I know how to remove the frets, and found the playing surface for each instrument, but they don’t slide. Couldn’t see anything in the instrument settings either.

Bit underwhelmed by the small selection of ‘real’ instruments, tbh.

GeoShred ?

Is there nothing built-in? I’m sure this was available in GarageBand, unless my memory’s playing tricks again.

See on the thread where I put all interesting Logic ios videos , I put today 3 new ones , one is just about surfaces playing on LP and how to manage , I was thinking toying when wI put it

https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/55721/a-thread-to-put-all-tutorials-texts-and-videos-links-about-logic-ios#latest

Thanks, but I can’t see anything about sliding notes. Looking through the documentation I’m starting to think it’s not possible: https://support.apple.com/en-gb/guide/logicpro-ipad/lpip5c448cc8/1.0/ipados/16.0

Some guys have GeoShred to play MPE in LP it seem to work, I use it with à Swam saxo but not violin. Doesn’t know if you can slide selecting violins in Logic ?

realdawei

@monz0id said:

@BerlinFx said:

@monz0id said:

@BerlinFx said:

@monz0id said:
Has anyone found a playing surface for the strings (violins etc.) that allows you to slide notes (e.g. like a real violin)?

I know how to remove the frets, and found the playing surface for each instrument, but they don’t slide. Couldn’t see anything in the instrument settings either.

Bit underwhelmed by the small selection of ‘real’ instruments, tbh.

GeoShred ?

Is there nothing built-in? I’m sure this was available in GarageBand, unless my memory’s playing tricks again.

Hope this videos will help you , For violin you got chord strip and seems you can control many parameters in hidden menu. It could be your solution I hope. I have try it and it work great for me better than in GB.

You don’t really use chords on a violin. I’ve checked the settings, if you know where the option to create slides on the fretboard is, I’d like to know. There’s some silly fx settings that emulate it, but that’s not what I’m looking for.

i’ve been looking for it as well…haven’t found it thus far…a bit disappointing because GB has this along with some other cool surfaces for the Chinese and Japanese instruments

[Deleted User]

@NeuM said:
Again, I'm having to answer from the perspective of GarageBand and not Logic Pro... but there are several ways to play strings. One is to use the keyboard, the other is to use the stringed instrument neck. The keyboard requires you use the Pitch setting. The stringed instrument neck sort of closely simulates a real violin/viola neck insofar as it has few indicators of where the notes are. You can achieve a glissando effect using either interface, BUT (at least on GarageBand) you cannot later change the instrument or copy and paste the MIDI information if you use the instrument neck UI. This might be different on Logic Pro iPadOS.

Unfortunately it’s not there in Logic iOS, not that I can find anyway - the violin neck, doesn’t let me slide the note.

I’m starting to think it’s a limitation with the instrument itself, rather than the playing surface, since ifretless Bass works.

@realdawei said:
i’ve been looking for it as well…haven’t found it thus far…a bit disappointing because GB has this along with some other cool surfaces for the Chinese and Japanese instruments

Yep. This is part of what I want Logic for - a decent selection of traditional instruments with relevant playing surfaces, but feeling underwhelmed on both scores.

realdawei

@monz0id said:

@NeuM said:
Again, I'm having to answer from the perspective of GarageBand and not Logic Pro... but there are several ways to play strings. One is to use the keyboard, the other is to use the stringed instrument neck. The keyboard requires you use the Pitch setting. The stringed instrument neck sort of closely simulates a real violin/viola neck insofar as it has few indicators of where the notes are. You can achieve a glissando effect using either interface, BUT (at least on GarageBand) you cannot later change the instrument or copy and paste the MIDI information if you use the instrument neck UI. This might be different on Logic Pro iPadOS.

Unfortunately it’s not there in Logic iOS, not that I can find anyway - the violin neck, doesn’t let me slide the note.

I’m starting to think it’s a limitation with the instrument itself, rather than the playing surface, since ifretless Bass works.

@realdawei said:
i’ve been looking for it as well…haven’t found it thus far…a bit disappointing because GB has this along with some other cool surfaces for the Chinese and Japanese instruments

Yep. This is part of what I want Logic for - a decent selection of traditional instruments with relevant playing surfaces, but feeling underwhelmed on both scores.

Yes ifretless bass works they implemented a touch surface AUv3 with MIDI Out.

Any 3rd party AUv3 vendor can do this if they have the taste to do so…but looks like the Logic team took a pass on it, or perhaps are considering it for an update.

NeuM

@realdawei said:

@monz0id said:

@NeuM said:
Again, I'm having to answer from the perspective of GarageBand and not Logic Pro... but there are several ways to play strings. One is to use the keyboard, the other is to use the stringed instrument neck. The keyboard requires you use the Pitch setting. The stringed instrument neck sort of closely simulates a real violin/viola neck insofar as it has few indicators of where the notes are. You can achieve a glissando effect using either interface, BUT (at least on GarageBand) you cannot later change the instrument or copy and paste the MIDI information if you use the instrument neck UI. This might be different on Logic Pro iPadOS.

Unfortunately it’s not there in Logic iOS, not that I can find anyway - the violin neck, doesn’t let me slide the note.

I’m starting to think it’s a limitation with the instrument itself, rather than the playing surface, since ifretless Bass works.

@realdawei said:
i’ve been looking for it as well…haven’t found it thus far…a bit disappointing because GB has this along with some other cool surfaces for the Chinese and Japanese instruments

Yep. This is part of what I want Logic for - a decent selection of traditional instruments with relevant playing surfaces, but feeling underwhelmed on both scores.

Yes ifretless bass works they implemented a touch surface AUv3 with MIDI Out.

Any 3rd party AUv3 vendor can do this if they have the taste to do so…but looks like the Logic team took a pass on it, or perhaps are considering it for an update.

I have to imagine it's coming in the future since it's something that works in GarageBand today.

[Deleted User]

@NeuM said:

@realdawei said:

@monz0id said:

@NeuM said:
Again, I'm having to answer from the perspective of GarageBand and not Logic Pro... but there are several ways to play strings. One is to use the keyboard, the other is to use the stringed instrument neck. The keyboard requires you use the Pitch setting. The stringed instrument neck sort of closely simulates a real violin/viola neck insofar as it has few indicators of where the notes are. You can achieve a glissando effect using either interface, BUT (at least on GarageBand) you cannot later change the instrument or copy and paste the MIDI information if you use the instrument neck UI. This might be different on Logic Pro iPadOS.

Unfortunately it’s not there in Logic iOS, not that I can find anyway - the violin neck, doesn’t let me slide the note.

I’m starting to think it’s a limitation with the instrument itself, rather than the playing surface, since ifretless Bass works.

@realdawei said:
i’ve been looking for it as well…haven’t found it thus far…a bit disappointing because GB has this along with some other cool surfaces for the Chinese and Japanese instruments

Yep. This is part of what I want Logic for - a decent selection of traditional instruments with relevant playing surfaces, but feeling underwhelmed on both scores.

Yes ifretless bass works they implemented a touch surface AUv3 with MIDI Out.

Any 3rd party AUv3 vendor can do this if they have the taste to do so…but looks like the Logic team took a pass on it, or perhaps are considering it for an update.

I have to imagine it's coming in the future since it's something that works in GarageBand today.

Hmmm. Should be there now - I know it’s v1, but they’ve had years to do this, and it’s already a thing on the free app. What’s the point of a ‘studio’ violin, if you can’t play it, like a violin?

I seem to be going through phases: hating it due to clumsy sample import and constant crashing, liking it a bit more as I became more familiar with the UI, almost loving it this morning when the crashing stopped and as I went through the instruments, looping, sequencing, fx etc., and now disappointment as I go deeper and discover features that are standard on even the free version, aren’t supported on here. Just been trying to edit MIDI, the editor is lacking compared to some of the apps we’re used to.

Overall I can see a why a lot of folk are impressed, but it’s not ticking all my boxes.

Luckily I’ve got a few more weeks to play around with it before making a decision.

NeuM

@monz0id said:

@NeuM said:

@realdawei said:

@monz0id said:

@NeuM said:
Again, I'm having to answer from the perspective of GarageBand and not Logic Pro... but there are several ways to play strings. One is to use the keyboard, the other is to use the stringed instrument neck. The keyboard requires you use the Pitch setting. The stringed instrument neck sort of closely simulates a real violin/viola neck insofar as it has few indicators of where the notes are. You can achieve a glissando effect using either interface, BUT (at least on GarageBand) you cannot later change the instrument or copy and paste the MIDI information if you use the instrument neck UI. This might be different on Logic Pro iPadOS.

Unfortunately it’s not there in Logic iOS, not that I can find anyway - the violin neck, doesn’t let me slide the note.

I’m starting to think it’s a limitation with the instrument itself, rather than the playing surface, since ifretless Bass works.

@realdawei said:
i’ve been looking for it as well…haven’t found it thus far…a bit disappointing because GB has this along with some other cool surfaces for the Chinese and Japanese instruments

Yep. This is part of what I want Logic for - a decent selection of traditional instruments with relevant playing surfaces, but feeling underwhelmed on both scores.

Yes ifretless bass works they implemented a touch surface AUv3 with MIDI Out.

Any 3rd party AUv3 vendor can do this if they have the taste to do so…but looks like the Logic team took a pass on it, or perhaps are considering it for an update.

I have to imagine it's coming in the future since it's something that works in GarageBand today.

Hmmm. Should be there now - I know it’s v1, but they’ve had years to do this, and it’s already a thing on the free app.

I seem to be going through phases: hating it due to clumsy sample import and constant crashing, liking it a bit more as I became more familiar with the UI, almost loving it this morning when the crashing stopped and as I went through the instruments, looping, sequencing, fx etc., and now disappointment as I go deeper and discover features that are standard on even the free version, aren’t supported on here. Just been trying to edit MIDI, the editor is lacking compared to some of the apps we’re used to.

Overall I can see a why a lot of folk are impressed, but it’s not ticking all my boxes.

Just a suggestion: Lay down the initial tracks in GarageBand then open in LP. You won't have to buy another piece of software to solve the problem in the meantime. I use whatever works in any combination that makes sense or saves me time.

[Deleted User]

@NeuM said:

@monz0id said:

@NeuM said:

@realdawei said:

@monz0id said:

@NeuM said:
Again, I'm having to answer from the perspective of GarageBand and not Logic Pro... but there are several ways to play strings. One is to use the keyboard, the other is to use the stringed instrument neck. The keyboard requires you use the Pitch setting. The stringed instrument neck sort of closely simulates a real violin/viola neck insofar as it has few indicators of where the notes are. You can achieve a glissando effect using either interface, BUT (at least on GarageBand) you cannot later change the instrument or copy and paste the MIDI information if you use the instrument neck UI. This might be different on Logic Pro iPadOS.

Unfortunately it’s not there in Logic iOS, not that I can find anyway - the violin neck, doesn’t let me slide the note.

I’m starting to think it’s a limitation with the instrument itself, rather than the playing surface, since ifretless Bass works.

@realdawei said:
i’ve been looking for it as well…haven’t found it thus far…a bit disappointing because GB has this along with some other cool surfaces for the Chinese and Japanese instruments

Yep. This is part of what I want Logic for - a decent selection of traditional instruments with relevant playing surfaces, but feeling underwhelmed on both scores.

Yes ifretless bass works they implemented a touch surface AUv3 with MIDI Out.

Any 3rd party AUv3 vendor can do this if they have the taste to do so…but looks like the Logic team took a pass on it, or perhaps are considering it for an update.

I have to imagine it's coming in the future since it's something that works in GarageBand today.

Hmmm. Should be there now - I know it’s v1, but they’ve had years to do this, and it’s already a thing on the free app.

I seem to be going through phases: hating it due to clumsy sample import and constant crashing, liking it a bit more as I became more familiar with the UI, almost loving it this morning when the crashing stopped and as I went through the instruments, looping, sequencing, fx etc., and now disappointment as I go deeper and discover features that are standard on even the free version, aren’t supported on here. Just been trying to edit MIDI, the editor is lacking compared to some of the apps we’re used to.

Overall I can see a why a lot of folk are impressed, but it’s not ticking all my boxes.

Just a suggestion: Lay down the initial tracks in GarageBand then open in LP. You won't have to buy another piece of software to solve the problem in the meantime. I use whatever works in any combination that makes sense or saves me time.

I haven’t got space for both. The ‘real’ instruments was a big draw for me, along with AUv3 automation, I don’t need another IDM machine.

el_bo

@monz0id said:
I’m starting to think it’s a limitation with the instrument itself

Indeed! Those 'Studio' instruments, from memory, came to Logic around the time the first Seaboard Rise was released. So that kind of expression was not yet so common. But it > @monz0id said:

@NeuM said:

@realdawei said:

@monz0id said:

@NeuM said:
Again, I'm having to answer from the perspective of GarageBand and not Logic Pro... but there are several ways to play strings. One is to use the keyboard, the other is to use the stringed instrument neck. The keyboard requires you use the Pitch setting. The stringed instrument neck sort of closely simulates a real violin/viola neck insofar as it has few indicators of where the notes are. You can achieve a glissando effect using either interface, BUT (at least on GarageBand) you cannot later change the instrument or copy and paste the MIDI information if you use the instrument neck UI. This might be different on Logic Pro iPadOS.

Unfortunately it’s not there in Logic iOS, not that I can find anyway - the violin neck, doesn’t let me slide the note.

I’m starting to think it’s a limitation with the instrument itself, rather than the playing surface, since ifretless Bass works.

@realdawei said:
i’ve been looking for it as well…haven’t found it thus far…a bit disappointing because GB has this along with some other cool surfaces for the Chinese and Japanese instruments

Yep. This is part of what I want Logic for - a decent selection of traditional instruments with relevant playing surfaces, but feeling underwhelmed on both scores.

Yes ifretless bass works they implemented a touch surface AUv3 with MIDI Out.

Any 3rd party AUv3 vendor can do this if they have the taste to do so…but looks like the Logic team took a pass on it, or perhaps are considering it for an update.

I have to imagine it's coming in the future since it's something that works in GarageBand today.

Hmmm. Should be there now - I know it’s v1, but they’ve had years to do this, and it’s already a thing on the free app. What’s the point of a ‘studio’ violin, if you can’t play it, like a violin?

I seem to be going through phases: hating it due to clumsy sample import and constant crashing, liking it a bit more as I became more familiar with the UI, almost loving it this morning when the crashing stopped and as I went through the instruments, looping, sequencing, fx etc., and now disappointment as I go deeper and discover features that are standard on even the free version, aren’t supported on here. Just been trying to edit MIDI, the editor is lacking compared to some of the apps we’re used to.

Overall I can see a why a lot of folk are impressed, but it’s not ticking all my boxes.

Luckily I’ve got a few more weeks to play around with it before making a decision.

There’re definitely some things that I'm finding a little annoying, and one that’s teetering on being a show-stopper for me. But the things I like about are making it hard to completely rule out.
Bittersweet, truly.

NeuM

@monz0id said:

@NeuM said:

@monz0id said:

@NeuM said:

@realdawei said:

@monz0id said:

@NeuM said:
Again, I'm having to answer from the perspective of GarageBand and not Logic Pro... but there are several ways to play strings. One is to use the keyboard, the other is to use the stringed instrument neck. The keyboard requires you use the Pitch setting. The stringed instrument neck sort of closely simulates a real violin/viola neck insofar as it has few indicators of where the notes are. You can achieve a glissando effect using either interface, BUT (at least on GarageBand) you cannot later change the instrument or copy and paste the MIDI information if you use the instrument neck UI. This might be different on Logic Pro iPadOS.

Unfortunately it’s not there in Logic iOS, not that I can find anyway - the violin neck, doesn’t let me slide the note.

I’m starting to think it’s a limitation with the instrument itself, rather than the playing surface, since ifretless Bass works.

@realdawei said:
i’ve been looking for it as well…haven’t found it thus far…a bit disappointing because GB has this along with some other cool surfaces for the Chinese and Japanese instruments

Yep. This is part of what I want Logic for - a decent selection of traditional instruments with relevant playing surfaces, but feeling underwhelmed on both scores.

Yes ifretless bass works they implemented a touch surface AUv3 with MIDI Out.

Any 3rd party AUv3 vendor can do this if they have the taste to do so…but looks like the Logic team took a pass on it, or perhaps are considering it for an update.

I have to imagine it's coming in the future since it's something that works in GarageBand today.

Hmmm. Should be there now - I know it’s v1, but they’ve had years to do this, and it’s already a thing on the free app.

I seem to be going through phases: hating it due to clumsy sample import and constant crashing, liking it a bit more as I became more familiar with the UI, almost loving it this morning when the crashing stopped and as I went through the instruments, looping, sequencing, fx etc., and now disappointment as I go deeper and discover features that are standard on even the free version, aren’t supported on here. Just been trying to edit MIDI, the editor is lacking compared to some of the apps we’re used to.

Overall I can see a why a lot of folk are impressed, but it’s not ticking all my boxes.

Just a suggestion: Lay down the initial tracks in GarageBand then open in LP. You won't have to buy another piece of software to solve the problem in the meantime. I use whatever works in any combination that makes sense or saves me time.

I haven’t got space for both. The ‘real’ instruments was a big draw for me, along with AUv3 automation, I don’t need another IDM machine.

OK.

[Deleted User]

@el_bo said:
Indeed! Those 'Studio' instruments, from memory, came to Logic around the time the first Seaboard Rise was released. So that kind of expression was not yet so common.

I think (I’ll check tomorrow) that even Logic Remote has it built-in. I remember thinking this is great, proper instrument performance.

@el_bo said:
There’re definitely some things that I'm finding a little annoying, and one that’s teetering on being a show-stopper for me. But the things I like about are making it hard to completely rule out.
Bittersweet, truly.

I like a lot of things - the fx are great, timeline editing is really snappy, synths are good, Alchemy automation, recording looping performances etc. But the stuff I want it for seems either hit and miss (AUv3 automation, MIDI recording/editing), clunky (sample import into samplers), or totally absent (missing ‘real’ instruments, missing playing surfaces etc.).

I was up for a years subscription this morning, but now I’ve cooled off again.

Who knows, tomorrow I might love it again! The balance between pros and cons is a delicate one!

HotStrange

@BerlinFx said:

@HotStrange said:

@BerlinFx said:

@HotStrange said:
After messing with LPx all day I gotta say, I really really like it. A lot. Will it replace my other DAWs? I’m not sure. Maybe. I think I like using AUs more in Cubasis but maybe I need to get used to using them in Logic, but everything else in LPx is just excellent and more preferable.

A few things that immediately stood out that I love: Sculpture. The physical modeling engine is fantastic and one of the biggest draws for me. The studio horns and strings are also excellent, same for the tines, Clav, and organ. Almost all the loops are great and more than usable. Editing is quick. Automation is quick. Both sampler engines are great, especially Alchemy. I also really enjoy the drum designer and having more options for the drummers. I haven’t tried all of the effects but the reverbs are very good.

I was a bit taken aback at the more lackluster synth side, especially Alchemy synth, but I feel like it’ll improv over time. The retro synth with the options for FM, Wavetable, and Sync is really good though, and the presets are nice.

Overall I think it’s a 9/10 right now and I can really see this becoming my go-to DAW once I really learn it through and through. I don’t see it replacing AUM though, but it may be a great spot to dump the stems for further tweaking.

The The studio horns (the bigger pack in sire 2 or 4 GB ? ) is wonderful I totally agree this is why it is important to download all packs sounds if you can.

Agreed. I downloaded everything except the artist packs. Are any of those worth it?

I was really surprised at how good the studio horns and strings are. Glad I held off on apps like Mini Orchestra now.

I will say that artist packs are bit a cherry on the cake , I can live without them. Not bad sounds at all it is just a beat too mainstream ones. More for DJ producers wanting to find samples ideas. Now I should say that I download all 14 GB and that before downloading you can play them in audio.

Be careful the Dua Lipa and an other pack (?) is not royalty free just to remix at home just fir you and your dogs and cats . All the other artists producer pack are royalty free.

Thanks. Not being royalty free was one of my main concerns. Could be fun to look at and dove into. But not having them also saves me 2-3 GBs. I’ll give them a preview and see how they sound. All the other packs are necessary (for me anyway).

[Deleted User]

@NeuM said:

@monz0id said:

@NeuM said:

@monz0id said:

@NeuM said:

@realdawei said:

@monz0id said:

@NeuM said:
Again, I'm having to answer from the perspective of GarageBand and not Logic Pro... but there are several ways to play strings. One is to use the keyboard, the other is to use the stringed instrument neck. The keyboard requires you use the Pitch setting. The stringed instrument neck sort of closely simulates a real violin/viola neck insofar as it has few indicators of where the notes are. You can achieve a glissando effect using either interface, BUT (at least on GarageBand) you cannot later change the instrument or copy and paste the MIDI information if you use the instrument neck UI. This might be different on Logic Pro iPadOS.

Unfortunately it’s not there in Logic iOS, not that I can find anyway - the violin neck, doesn’t let me slide the note.

I’m starting to think it’s a limitation with the instrument itself, rather than the playing surface, since ifretless Bass works.

@realdawei said:
i’ve been looking for it as well…haven’t found it thus far…a bit disappointing because GB has this along with some other cool surfaces for the Chinese and Japanese instruments

Yep. This is part of what I want Logic for - a decent selection of traditional instruments with relevant playing surfaces, but feeling underwhelmed on both scores.

Yes ifretless bass works they implemented a touch surface AUv3 with MIDI Out.

Any 3rd party AUv3 vendor can do this if they have the taste to do so…but looks like the Logic team took a pass on it, or perhaps are considering it for an update.

I have to imagine it's coming in the future since it's something that works in GarageBand today.

Hmmm. Should be there now - I know it’s v1, but they’ve had years to do this, and it’s already a thing on the free app.

I seem to be going through phases: hating it due to clumsy sample import and constant crashing, liking it a bit more as I became more familiar with the UI, almost loving it this morning when the crashing stopped and as I went through the instruments, looping, sequencing, fx etc., and now disappointment as I go deeper and discover features that are standard on even the free version, aren’t supported on here. Just been trying to edit MIDI, the editor is lacking compared to some of the apps we’re used to.

Overall I can see a why a lot of folk are impressed, but it’s not ticking all my boxes.

Just a suggestion: Lay down the initial tracks in GarageBand then open in LP. You won't have to buy another piece of software to solve the problem in the meantime. I use whatever works in any combination that makes sense or saves me time.

I haven’t got space for both. The ‘real’ instruments was a big draw for me, along with AUv3 automation, I don’t need another IDM machine.

OK.

Sorry, that came across as a bit snappy - didn’t mean it that way - it’s been a long day!

NeuM

@monz0id said:

@NeuM said:

@monz0id said:

@NeuM said:

@monz0id said:

@NeuM said:

@realdawei said:

@monz0id said:

@NeuM said:
Again, I'm having to answer from the perspective of GarageBand and not Logic Pro... but there are several ways to play strings. One is to use the keyboard, the other is to use the stringed instrument neck. The keyboard requires you use the Pitch setting. The stringed instrument neck sort of closely simulates a real violin/viola neck insofar as it has few indicators of where the notes are. You can achieve a glissando effect using either interface, BUT (at least on GarageBand) you cannot later change the instrument or copy and paste the MIDI information if you use the instrument neck UI. This might be different on Logic Pro iPadOS.

Unfortunately it’s not there in Logic iOS, not that I can find anyway - the violin neck, doesn’t let me slide the note.

I’m starting to think it’s a limitation with the instrument itself, rather than the playing surface, since ifretless Bass works.

@realdawei said:
i’ve been looking for it as well…haven’t found it thus far…a bit disappointing because GB has this along with some other cool surfaces for the Chinese and Japanese instruments

Yep. This is part of what I want Logic for - a decent selection of traditional instruments with relevant playing surfaces, but feeling underwhelmed on both scores.

Yes ifretless bass works they implemented a touch surface AUv3 with MIDI Out.

Any 3rd party AUv3 vendor can do this if they have the taste to do so…but looks like the Logic team took a pass on it, or perhaps are considering it for an update.

I have to imagine it's coming in the future since it's something that works in GarageBand today.

Hmmm. Should be there now - I know it’s v1, but they’ve had years to do this, and it’s already a thing on the free app.

I seem to be going through phases: hating it due to clumsy sample import and constant crashing, liking it a bit more as I became more familiar with the UI, almost loving it this morning when the crashing stopped and as I went through the instruments, looping, sequencing, fx etc., and now disappointment as I go deeper and discover features that are standard on even the free version, aren’t supported on here. Just been trying to edit MIDI, the editor is lacking compared to some of the apps we’re used to.

Overall I can see a why a lot of folk are impressed, but it’s not ticking all my boxes.

Just a suggestion: Lay down the initial tracks in GarageBand then open in LP. You won't have to buy another piece of software to solve the problem in the meantime. I use whatever works in any combination that makes sense or saves me time.

I haven’t got space for both. The ‘real’ instruments was a big draw for me, along with AUv3 automation, I don’t need another IDM machine.

OK.

Sorry, that came across as a bit snappy - didn’t mean it that way - it’s been a long day!

Understood. You've got a lot of concerns on your plate.

HotStrange

@Banquet said:
What I did was - click and hold on a midi region until a blue audio looking icon appears - you'll see some text at the top saying you can drag to a header or drum track. So I dragged to the header (empty part of the track listing) and it then allows you to create a new instrument from Sample Alchemy, Quick Sampler, or Drum Machine Designer. I opened Sample Alchemy and that was it. I guess it's converting the midi to audio... Love it

@Gavinski said:
@Banquet would u mind sharing a screenshot of that? I can't get it to work. Drag midi into a Sampler? I thought samplers only work with audio so I can't even wrap my head around how this could be, cheers

@Banquet said:

And then I just found you can drag a MIDI clip into a sampler and start mangling it straight away as audio…. In Cubase I’d have to render in place, open media centre, find the audio in the project folder, drag it across…

Really? Now that is very interesting - will speed up workflow considerably!

s> @DanSebPage said:

@Banquet said:

And then I just found you can drag a MIDI clip into a sampler and start mangling it straight away as audio…. In Cubase I’d have to render in place, open media centre, find the audio in the project folder, drag it across…

Really? Now that is very interesting - will speed up workflow considerably!

That’s fantastic. So if you like a sound but don’t like it in its current form you can mangle it in the sampler. Awesome.

hightunnels

@HotStrange said:

@Banquet said:
What I did was - click and hold on a midi region until a blue audio looking icon appears - you'll see some text at the top saying you can drag to a header or drum track. So I dragged to the header (empty part of the track listing) and it then allows you to create a new instrument from Sample Alchemy, Quick Sampler, or Drum Machine Designer. I opened Sample Alchemy and that was it. I guess it's converting the midi to audio... Love it

@Gavinski said:
@Banquet would u mind sharing a screenshot of that? I can't get it to work. Drag midi into a Sampler? I thought samplers only work with audio so I can't even wrap my head around how this could be, cheers

@Banquet said:

And then I just found you can drag a MIDI clip into a sampler and start mangling it straight away as audio…. In Cubase I’d have to render in place, open media centre, find the audio in the project folder, drag it across…

Really? Now that is very interesting - will speed up workflow considerably!

s> @DanSebPage said:

@Banquet said:

And then I just found you can drag a MIDI clip into a sampler and start mangling it straight away as audio…. In Cubase I’d have to render in place, open media centre, find the audio in the project folder, drag it across…

Really? Now that is very interesting - will speed up workflow considerably!

That’s fantastic. So if you like a sound but don’t like it in its current form you can mangle it in the sampler. Awesome.

Yup that’s one of my favorite things to do with apple loops/quick sampler in logic for mac. Can transform those loops into something new pretty quickly and get an idea going

baconink

@NeuM said:

@monz0id said:

@NeuM said:

@monz0id said:

@NeuM said:

@monz0id said:

@NeuM said:

@realdawei said:

@monz0id said:

@NeuM said:
Again, I'm having to answer from the perspective of GarageBand and not Logic Pro... but there are several ways to play strings. One is to use the keyboard, the other is to use the stringed instrument neck. The keyboard requires you use the Pitch setting. The stringed instrument neck sort of closely simulates a real violin/viola neck insofar as it has few indicators of where the notes are. You can achieve a glissando effect using either interface, BUT (at least on GarageBand) you cannot later change the instrument or copy and paste the MIDI information if you use the instrument neck UI. This might be different on Logic Pro iPadOS.

Unfortunately it’s not there in Logic iOS, not that I can find anyway - the violin neck, doesn’t let me slide the note.

I’m starting to think it’s a limitation with the instrument itself, rather than the playing surface, since ifretless Bass works.

@realdawei said:
i’ve been looking for it as well…haven’t found it thus far…a bit disappointing because GB has this along with some other cool surfaces for the Chinese and Japanese instruments

Yep. This is part of what I want Logic for - a decent selection of traditional instruments with relevant playing surfaces, but feeling underwhelmed on both scores.

Yes ifretless bass works they implemented a touch surface AUv3 with MIDI Out.

Any 3rd party AUv3 vendor can do this if they have the taste to do so…but looks like the Logic team took a pass on it, or perhaps are considering it for an update.

I have to imagine it's coming in the future since it's something that works in GarageBand today.

Hmmm. Should be there now - I know it’s v1, but they’ve had years to do this, and it’s already a thing on the free app.

I seem to be going through phases: hating it due to clumsy sample import and constant crashing, liking it a bit more as I became more familiar with the UI, almost loving it this morning when the crashing stopped and as I went through the instruments, looping, sequencing, fx etc., and now disappointment as I go deeper and discover features that are standard on even the free version, aren’t supported on here. Just been trying to edit MIDI, the editor is lacking compared to some of the apps we’re used to.

Overall I can see a why a lot of folk are impressed, but it’s not ticking all my boxes.

Just a suggestion: Lay down the initial tracks in GarageBand then open in LP. You won't have to buy another piece of software to solve the problem in the meantime. I use whatever works in any combination that makes sense or saves me time.

I haven’t got space for both. The ‘real’ instruments was a big draw for me, along with AUv3 automation, I don’t need another IDM machine.

OK.

Sorry, that came across as a bit snappy - didn’t mean it that way - it’s been a long day!

Understood. You've got a lot of concerns on your plate.

😅

MadGav

@monz0id said:
Hmmm. Should be there now - I know it’s v1, but they’ve had years to do this, and it’s already a thing on the free app. What’s the point of a ‘studio’ violin, if you can’t play it, like a violin?

Taking a developer perspective from way up overhead - the most important thing with v1 is that the foundations are solid and built right to enable currently missing features to be added. This is clearly the case with instruments lacking editing for instance. By way of comparison it seems that with Cubasis allowance was likely not made for tempo and key signature changes.

I understand your frustration with this particular limitation!

[Deleted User]

@MadGav said:

@monz0id said:
Hmmm. Should be there now - I know it’s v1, but they’ve had years to do this, and it’s already a thing on the free app. What’s the point of a ‘studio’ violin, if you can’t play it, like a violin?

Taking a developer perspective from way up overhead - the most important thing with v1 is that the foundations are solid and built right to enable currently missing features to be added. This is clearly the case with instruments lacking editing for instance. By way of comparison it seems that with Cubasis allowance was likely not made for tempo and key signature changes.

I understand your frustration with this particular limitation!

From a dev point of view I share totally what you said. The most important thing is to have a very sold foundation in such an app., after adding features like you want will be done easily.

It is better way than add first what you want and have the apps crashing all the time you add something isn’t it ?

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@BerlinFx said:

@MadGav said:

@monz0id said:
Hmmm. Should be there now - I know it’s v1, but they’ve had years to do this, and it’s already a thing on the free app. What’s the point of a ‘studio’ violin, if you can’t play it, like a violin?

Taking a developer perspective from way up overhead - the most important thing with v1 is that the foundations are solid and built right to enable currently missing features to be added. This is clearly the case with instruments lacking editing for instance. By way of comparison it seems that with Cubasis allowance was likely not made for tempo and key signature changes.

I understand your frustration with this particular limitation!

From a dev point of view I share totally what you said. The most important thing is to have a very sold foundation in such an app., after adding features like you want will be done easily.

It is better way than add first what you want and have the apps crashing all the time you add something isn’t it ?

The functionality for sample import, and sliding notes for stringed instruments already exists in their own, iOS apps.

Also as a developer, I would question why that has been left out.

brambos

@monz0id said:
Also as a developer, I would question why that has been left out.

Seeing the scope of this product, as a developer I totally wouldn't.

None of these things stop you from using the product. They're just quality of life things that can be added at a later point. So it's not like they shipped the product in an unfinished state or something.