Logic Pro - the missing features

Samu

@el_bo said:

As much as I support the availability of such a plugin as AUBE, my current game-plan is to at least try and restrict my iOS plugin list enough that I won't need it

That is/was just one of the reasons why I started my app-cleanup long time ago...
...now I have a pretty good grip on everything that is still installed

[Deleted User]

@el_bo said:

@ervin said:

@el_bo said:

@ErrkaPetti said:

@el_bo said:

@ErrkaPetti said:
And then sorting the plug-ins by developer adds further insult to injury 😏👌

Not dismissing your criticism, but that's how it's always been in Logic. Kinda used to it, I guess. But it would be good to see the option to choose, within settings

That was not my words!
Talk to @ervin instead… 😎😎

Oops! Not intentional

No worries. Indeed, it is like that in Logic on the Mac as well and it’s just as frustrating, at least for me 💁

Maybe on iOS it’s a bit worse since developers sometimes use their names incorrectly or inconsistently in their various products. But in general, lack of search when selecting plugins has no justification whatsoever, regardless of the platform imho. It’s a basic usability fail if you ask me.

But at least it’s good for Aube 👍

Haha! On the desktop version of Logic, I regularly start looking for a plugin before my mind has remembered what it's called. So I open up the AU browser, then scan the cursor up and down the list of developer names, which is no help remembering the plugin...until I finally remember what it is I want. So while a search option would be of zero help for me in this case, having a list of plugin names in front of me definitely would (Custom plugin folders is also a life-saver).

As much as I support the availability of such a plugin as AUBE, my current game-plan is to at least try and restrict my iOS plugin list enough that I won't need it

We all forget about dev names appart Brambos. First I was thinking that Aube wasn’t so useful. I was wrong at least it is good as now you can make categories and more about each app and what they do and buy less apps that overlaps so Aube help your wallet at the end .

el_bo

@Samu said:

@el_bo said:

As much as I support the availability of such a plugin as AUBE, my current game-plan is to at least try and restrict my iOS plugin list enough that I won't need it

That is/was just one of the reasons why I started my app-cleanup long time ago...
...now I have a pretty good grip on everything that is still installed

Haha, yeah. I've seen your list, I think. Not intention of cutting back that much; not so much because I couldn't do without most of the stuff I have, but because I've used most of it so little that it would be an unbearable waste to ditch it now.

So, perhaps I should add 'Custom plugin folder organisation' to the missing list

baconink

@Jeezs said:
No global clipboard compatible copy paste.
Not even possible to bounce an audio take to disk without bouncing all the tracks
So it’s very difficult to import a logic into loopy or other auv3.

Pretty sure you can mute or disable the tracks you don’t need and just bounce what you need, no?

el_bo

@BerlinFx said:

@el_bo said:

@ervin said:

@el_bo said:

@ErrkaPetti said:

@el_bo said:

@ErrkaPetti said:
And then sorting the plug-ins by developer adds further insult to injury 😏👌

Not dismissing your criticism, but that's how it's always been in Logic. Kinda used to it, I guess. But it would be good to see the option to choose, within settings

That was not my words!
Talk to @ervin instead… 😎😎

Oops! Not intentional

No worries. Indeed, it is like that in Logic on the Mac as well and it’s just as frustrating, at least for me 💁

Maybe on iOS it’s a bit worse since developers sometimes use their names incorrectly or inconsistently in their various products. But in general, lack of search when selecting plugins has no justification whatsoever, regardless of the platform imho. It’s a basic usability fail if you ask me.

But at least it’s good for Aube 👍

Haha! On the desktop version of Logic, I regularly start looking for a plugin before my mind has remembered what it's called. So I open up the AU browser, then scan the cursor up and down the list of developer names, which is no help remembering the plugin...until I finally remember what it is I want. So while a search option would be of zero help for me in this case, having a list of plugin names in front of me definitely would (Custom plugin folders is also a life-saver).

As much as I support the availability of such a plugin as AUBE, my current game-plan is to at least try and restrict my iOS plugin list enough that I won't need it

We all forget about dev names appart Brambos. First I was thinking that Aube wasn’t so useful. I was wrong at least it is good as now you can make categories and more about each app and what they do and buy less apps that overlaps so Aube help your wallet at the end .

It's not that I don't think AUBE is helpful. If it can make custom plugin folders then that'd be something I might be interested in. But it really all depends on what I end up keeping in rotation. Since wiping my iPad in anticipation of Logic, it's been a slow process of working out what I want to install, and trying to balance that against the minimum amount of Logic's content I can install...and all that balanced against space for non-music apps, for projects and to keep it all running smoothly. Having a 64GB iPAd is proving to be it's own discipline

[Deleted User]

@el_bo said:

@BerlinFx said:

@el_bo said:

@ervin said:

@el_bo said:

@ErrkaPetti said:

@el_bo said:

@ErrkaPetti said:
And then sorting the plug-ins by developer adds further insult to injury 😏👌

Not dismissing your criticism, but that's how it's always been in Logic. Kinda used to it, I guess. But it would be good to see the option to choose, within settings

That was not my words!
Talk to @ervin instead… 😎😎

Oops! Not intentional

No worries. Indeed, it is like that in Logic on the Mac as well and it’s just as frustrating, at least for me 💁

Maybe on iOS it’s a bit worse since developers sometimes use their names incorrectly or inconsistently in their various products. But in general, lack of search when selecting plugins has no justification whatsoever, regardless of the platform imho. It’s a basic usability fail if you ask me.

But at least it’s good for Aube 👍

Haha! On the desktop version of Logic, I regularly start looking for a plugin before my mind has remembered what it's called. So I open up the AU browser, then scan the cursor up and down the list of developer names, which is no help remembering the plugin...until I finally remember what it is I want. So while a search option would be of zero help for me in this case, having a list of plugin names in front of me definitely would (Custom plugin folders is also a life-saver).

As much as I support the availability of such a plugin as AUBE, my current game-plan is to at least try and restrict my iOS plugin list enough that I won't need it

We all forget about dev names appart Brambos. First I was thinking that Aube wasn’t so useful. I was wrong at least it is good as now you can make categories and more about each app and what they do and buy less apps that overlaps so Aube help your wallet at the end .

It's not that I don't think AUBE is helpful. If it can make custom plugin folders then that'd be something I might be interested in. But it really all depends on what I end up keeping in rotation. Since wiping my iPad in anticipation of Logic, it's been a slow process of working out what I want to install, and trying to balance that against the minimum amount of Logic's content I can install...and all that balanced against space for non-music apps, for projects and to keep it all running smoothly. Having a 64GB iPAd is proving to be it's own discipline

I have a folders organisation like all compressors together, reverbs…. But I got a problem with apps that do many thing like reverb, delay, bit crusher all in one. Which folder to use ? Create a general folder named “Other Fx” not really helpful. Like say @samu I need to use deeper all of them. Hopefully I don’t have many fx apps stack to the good one if possible. I got too many synth but it is an other story I love synth … 😂

Jeezs

@baconink said:

@Jeezs said:
No global clipboard compatible copy paste.
Not even possible to bounce an audio take to disk without bouncing all the tracks
So it’s very difficult to import a logic into loopy or other auv3.

Pretty sure you can mute or disable the tracks you don’t need and just bounce what you need, no?

For sure but by default it bounce the whole song or you to manually specified the locators so it’s easier to directly place the AUV3 as an effect on the track and record the take.

[Deleted User]

Silly question but where is the CPU monitor in Logic IPad ? Can be useful as it is in Cubasis.

ErrkaPetti

@Artem said:

@Janosax said:
Small test with midi playing a piano, first blue regions are midi bounce to audio with no effects added. Green region is bounce from same midi/piano but with multiple high latency plugins Maxima. Red region is bounce from same midi/piano but with multiple Maxima/NoLimits with look ahead set to max and timing seems to be messed as you can see on bounce track. Not that bad just be careful with some dynamic plugins with look ahead which usually are used on master so tracks timing should still be good.

Interesting! But how did you convert MIDI to an audio track to make this comparison? Have you exported the audio and then imported it back into Logic or is there some easier way?

Just tap on MIDI region and there choose Bounce In Place…

el_bo

@BerlinFx said:

@el_bo said:

@BerlinFx said:

@el_bo said:

@ervin said:

@el_bo said:

@ErrkaPetti said:

@el_bo said:

@ErrkaPetti said:
And then sorting the plug-ins by developer adds further insult to injury 😏👌

Not dismissing your criticism, but that's how it's always been in Logic. Kinda used to it, I guess. But it would be good to see the option to choose, within settings

That was not my words!
Talk to @ervin instead… 😎😎

Oops! Not intentional

No worries. Indeed, it is like that in Logic on the Mac as well and it’s just as frustrating, at least for me 💁

Maybe on iOS it’s a bit worse since developers sometimes use their names incorrectly or inconsistently in their various products. But in general, lack of search when selecting plugins has no justification whatsoever, regardless of the platform imho. It’s a basic usability fail if you ask me.

But at least it’s good for Aube 👍

Haha! On the desktop version of Logic, I regularly start looking for a plugin before my mind has remembered what it's called. So I open up the AU browser, then scan the cursor up and down the list of developer names, which is no help remembering the plugin...until I finally remember what it is I want. So while a search option would be of zero help for me in this case, having a list of plugin names in front of me definitely would (Custom plugin folders is also a life-saver).

As much as I support the availability of such a plugin as AUBE, my current game-plan is to at least try and restrict my iOS plugin list enough that I won't need it

We all forget about dev names appart Brambos. First I was thinking that Aube wasn’t so useful. I was wrong at least it is good as now you can make categories and more about each app and what they do and buy less apps that overlaps so Aube help your wallet at the end .

It's not that I don't think AUBE is helpful. If it can make custom plugin folders then that'd be something I might be interested in. But it really all depends on what I end up keeping in rotation. Since wiping my iPad in anticipation of Logic, it's been a slow process of working out what I want to install, and trying to balance that against the minimum amount of Logic's content I can install...and all that balanced against space for non-music apps, for projects and to keep it all running smoothly. Having a 64GB iPAd is proving to be it's own discipline

I have a folders organisation like all compressors together, reverbs…. But I got a problem with apps that do many thing like reverb, delay, bit crusher all in one. Which folder to use ? Create a general folder named “Other Fx” not really helpful. Like say @samu I need to use deeper all of them. Hopefully I don’t have many fx apps stack to the good one if possible. I got too many synth but it is an other story I love synth … 😂

FX can be placed in multiple folders. So you could put 'Phat FX', for example. in 'Dynamics'. Filters', 'Distortion', or all of the above. If you don't want such redundancy, then just decide which is the feature you most associate with a given plug, then put it with those. For instance, if I were only allowed to choose one place to put 'Phat FX, I might be inclined to put it in the 'Filter' category

[Deleted User]

@el_bo said:

@BerlinFx said:

@el_bo said:

@BerlinFx said:

@el_bo said:

@ervin said:

@el_bo said:

@ErrkaPetti said:

@el_bo said:

@ErrkaPetti said:
And then sorting the plug-ins by developer adds further insult to injury 😏👌

Not dismissing your criticism, but that's how it's always been in Logic. Kinda used to it, I guess. But it would be good to see the option to choose, within settings

That was not my words!
Talk to @ervin instead… 😎😎

Oops! Not intentional

No worries. Indeed, it is like that in Logic on the Mac as well and it’s just as frustrating, at least for me 💁

Maybe on iOS it’s a bit worse since developers sometimes use their names incorrectly or inconsistently in their various products. But in general, lack of search when selecting plugins has no justification whatsoever, regardless of the platform imho. It’s a basic usability fail if you ask me.

But at least it’s good for Aube 👍

Haha! On the desktop version of Logic, I regularly start looking for a plugin before my mind has remembered what it's called. So I open up the AU browser, then scan the cursor up and down the list of developer names, which is no help remembering the plugin...until I finally remember what it is I want. So while a search option would be of zero help for me in this case, having a list of plugin names in front of me definitely would (Custom plugin folders is also a life-saver).

As much as I support the availability of such a plugin as AUBE, my current game-plan is to at least try and restrict my iOS plugin list enough that I won't need it

We all forget about dev names appart Brambos. First I was thinking that Aube wasn’t so useful. I was wrong at least it is good as now you can make categories and more about each app and what they do and buy less apps that overlaps so Aube help your wallet at the end .

It's not that I don't think AUBE is helpful. If it can make custom plugin folders then that'd be something I might be interested in. But it really all depends on what I end up keeping in rotation. Since wiping my iPad in anticipation of Logic, it's been a slow process of working out what I want to install, and trying to balance that against the minimum amount of Logic's content I can install...and all that balanced against space for non-music apps, for projects and to keep it all running smoothly. Having a 64GB iPAd is proving to be it's own discipline

I have a folders organisation like all compressors together, reverbs…. But I got a problem with apps that do many thing like reverb, delay, bit crusher all in one. Which folder to use ? Create a general folder named “Other Fx” not really helpful. Like say @samu I need to use deeper all of them. Hopefully I don’t have many fx apps stack to the good one if possible. I got too many synth but it is an other story I love synth … 😂

FX can be placed in multiple folders. So you could put 'Phat FX', for example. in 'Dynamics'. Filters', 'Distortion', or all of the above. If you don't want such redundancy, then just decide which is the feature you most associate with a given plug, then put it with those. For instance, if I were only allowed to choose one place to put 'Phat FX, I might be inclined to put it in the 'Filter' category

Thanks for your helpful advices

el_bo

@BerlinFx said:

@el_bo said:

@BerlinFx said:

@el_bo said:

@BerlinFx said:

@el_bo said:

@ervin said:

@el_bo said:

@ErrkaPetti said:

@el_bo said:

@ErrkaPetti said:
And then sorting the plug-ins by developer adds further insult to injury 😏👌

Not dismissing your criticism, but that's how it's always been in Logic. Kinda used to it, I guess. But it would be good to see the option to choose, within settings

That was not my words!
Talk to @ervin instead… 😎😎

Oops! Not intentional

No worries. Indeed, it is like that in Logic on the Mac as well and it’s just as frustrating, at least for me 💁

Maybe on iOS it’s a bit worse since developers sometimes use their names incorrectly or inconsistently in their various products. But in general, lack of search when selecting plugins has no justification whatsoever, regardless of the platform imho. It’s a basic usability fail if you ask me.

But at least it’s good for Aube 👍

Haha! On the desktop version of Logic, I regularly start looking for a plugin before my mind has remembered what it's called. So I open up the AU browser, then scan the cursor up and down the list of developer names, which is no help remembering the plugin...until I finally remember what it is I want. So while a search option would be of zero help for me in this case, having a list of plugin names in front of me definitely would (Custom plugin folders is also a life-saver).

As much as I support the availability of such a plugin as AUBE, my current game-plan is to at least try and restrict my iOS plugin list enough that I won't need it

We all forget about dev names appart Brambos. First I was thinking that Aube wasn’t so useful. I was wrong at least it is good as now you can make categories and more about each app and what they do and buy less apps that overlaps so Aube help your wallet at the end .

It's not that I don't think AUBE is helpful. If it can make custom plugin folders then that'd be something I might be interested in. But it really all depends on what I end up keeping in rotation. Since wiping my iPad in anticipation of Logic, it's been a slow process of working out what I want to install, and trying to balance that against the minimum amount of Logic's content I can install...and all that balanced against space for non-music apps, for projects and to keep it all running smoothly. Having a 64GB iPAd is proving to be it's own discipline

I have a folders organisation like all compressors together, reverbs…. But I got a problem with apps that do many thing like reverb, delay, bit crusher all in one. Which folder to use ? Create a general folder named “Other Fx” not really helpful. Like say @samu I need to use deeper all of them. Hopefully I don’t have many fx apps stack to the good one if possible. I got too many synth but it is an other story I love synth … 😂

FX can be placed in multiple folders. So you could put 'Phat FX', for example. in 'Dynamics'. Filters', 'Distortion', or all of the above. If you don't want such redundancy, then just decide which is the feature you most associate with a given plug, then put it with those. For instance, if I were only allowed to choose one place to put 'Phat FX, I might be inclined to put it in the 'Filter' category

Thanks for your helpful advices

You're welcome!

Artem

@ErrkaPetti said:
Just tap on MIDI region and there choose Bounce In Place…

Thanks! 😊

ervin

@el_bo said:

@BerlinFx said:

@el_bo said:

@BerlinFx said:

@el_bo said:

@ervin said:

@el_bo said:

@ErrkaPetti said:

@el_bo said:

@ErrkaPetti said:
And then sorting the plug-ins by developer adds further insult to injury 😏👌

Not dismissing your criticism, but that's how it's always been in Logic. Kinda used to it, I guess. But it would be good to see the option to choose, within settings

That was not my words!
Talk to @ervin instead… 😎😎

Oops! Not intentional

No worries. Indeed, it is like that in Logic on the Mac as well and it’s just as frustrating, at least for me 💁

Maybe on iOS it’s a bit worse since developers sometimes use their names incorrectly or inconsistently in their various products. But in general, lack of search when selecting plugins has no justification whatsoever, regardless of the platform imho. It’s a basic usability fail if you ask me.

But at least it’s good for Aube 👍

Haha! On the desktop version of Logic, I regularly start looking for a plugin before my mind has remembered what it's called. So I open up the AU browser, then scan the cursor up and down the list of developer names, which is no help remembering the plugin...until I finally remember what it is I want. So while a search option would be of zero help for me in this case, having a list of plugin names in front of me definitely would (Custom plugin folders is also a life-saver).

As much as I support the availability of such a plugin as AUBE, my current game-plan is to at least try and restrict my iOS plugin list enough that I won't need it

We all forget about dev names appart Brambos. First I was thinking that Aube wasn’t so useful. I was wrong at least it is good as now you can make categories and more about each app and what they do and buy less apps that overlaps so Aube help your wallet at the end .

It's not that I don't think AUBE is helpful. If it can make custom plugin folders then that'd be something I might be interested in. But it really all depends on what I end up keeping in rotation. Since wiping my iPad in anticipation of Logic, it's been a slow process of working out what I want to install, and trying to balance that against the minimum amount of Logic's content I can install...and all that balanced against space for non-music apps, for projects and to keep it all running smoothly. Having a 64GB iPAd is proving to be it's own discipline

I have a folders organisation like all compressors together, reverbs…. But I got a problem with apps that do many thing like reverb, delay, bit crusher all in one. Which folder to use ? Create a general folder named “Other Fx” not really helpful. Like say @samu I need to use deeper all of them. Hopefully I don’t have many fx apps stack to the good one if possible. I got too many synth but it is an other story I love synth … 😂

FX can be placed in multiple folders. So you could put 'Phat FX', for example. in 'Dynamics'. Filters', 'Distortion', or all of the above. If you don't want such redundancy, then just decide which is the feature you most associate with a given plug, then put it with those. For instance, if I were only allowed to choose one place to put 'Phat FX, I might be inclined to put it in the 'Filter' category

I have a category called “multi” for the likes of mixbox and chowmultitool 😊

godfrey

@qryss said:
No compiing

That’s what I was going to ask but I thought surely that would be in there. I can do everything I need to do at the moment with what I have.

Pxlhg

Pretty good tips from Jakob Haq. I learned a few things about e.g midi mapping and midi learn. Once you know it it's not that complicated, I guess.😬

[Deleted User]

@ervin said:

@el_bo said:

@BerlinFx said:

@el_bo said:

@BerlinFx said:

@el_bo said:

@ervin said:

@el_bo said:

@ErrkaPetti said:

@el_bo said:

@ErrkaPetti said:
And then sorting the plug-ins by developer adds further insult to injury 😏👌

Not dismissing your criticism, but that's how it's always been in Logic. Kinda used to it, I guess. But it would be good to see the option to choose, within settings

That was not my words!
Talk to @ervin instead… 😎😎

Oops! Not intentional

No worries. Indeed, it is like that in Logic on the Mac as well and it’s just as frustrating, at least for me 💁

Maybe on iOS it’s a bit worse since developers sometimes use their names incorrectly or inconsistently in their various products. But in general, lack of search when selecting plugins has no justification whatsoever, regardless of the platform imho. It’s a basic usability fail if you ask me.

But at least it’s good for Aube 👍

Haha! On the desktop version of Logic, I regularly start looking for a plugin before my mind has remembered what it's called. So I open up the AU browser, then scan the cursor up and down the list of developer names, which is no help remembering the plugin...until I finally remember what it is I want. So while a search option would be of zero help for me in this case, having a list of plugin names in front of me definitely would (Custom plugin folders is also a life-saver).

As much as I support the availability of such a plugin as AUBE, my current game-plan is to at least try and restrict my iOS plugin list enough that I won't need it

We all forget about dev names appart Brambos. First I was thinking that Aube wasn’t so useful. I was wrong at least it is good as now you can make categories and more about each app and what they do and buy less apps that overlaps so Aube help your wallet at the end .

It's not that I don't think AUBE is helpful. If it can make custom plugin folders then that'd be something I might be interested in. But it really all depends on what I end up keeping in rotation. Since wiping my iPad in anticipation of Logic, it's been a slow process of working out what I want to install, and trying to balance that against the minimum amount of Logic's content I can install...and all that balanced against space for non-music apps, for projects and to keep it all running smoothly. Having a 64GB iPAd is proving to be it's own discipline

I have a folders organisation like all compressors together, reverbs…. But I got a problem with apps that do many thing like reverb, delay, bit crusher all in one. Which folder to use ? Create a general folder named “Other Fx” not really helpful. Like say @samu I need to use deeper all of them. Hopefully I don’t have many fx apps stack to the good one if possible. I got too many synth but it is an other story I love synth … 😂

FX can be placed in multiple folders. So you could put 'Phat FX', for example. in 'Dynamics'. Filters', 'Distortion', or all of the above. If you don't want such redundancy, then just decide which is the feature you most associate with a given plug, then put it with those. For instance, if I were only allowed to choose one place to put 'Phat FX, I might be inclined to put it in the 'Filter' category

I have a category called “multi” for the likes of mixbox and chowmultitool 😊

Multi FX not a bad idea better than “other FX” finally bought Fx as I can do multi tags and favorite , get only 142 apps including synth and instruments and daws , I am a small player here I know.

el_bo

@ervin said:

@el_bo said:

@BerlinFx said:

@el_bo said:

@BerlinFx said:

@el_bo said:

@ervin said:

@el_bo said:

@ErrkaPetti said:

@el_bo said:

@ErrkaPetti said:
And then sorting the plug-ins by developer adds further insult to injury 😏👌

Not dismissing your criticism, but that's how it's always been in Logic. Kinda used to it, I guess. But it would be good to see the option to choose, within settings

That was not my words!
Talk to @ervin instead… 😎😎

Oops! Not intentional

No worries. Indeed, it is like that in Logic on the Mac as well and it’s just as frustrating, at least for me 💁

Maybe on iOS it’s a bit worse since developers sometimes use their names incorrectly or inconsistently in their various products. But in general, lack of search when selecting plugins has no justification whatsoever, regardless of the platform imho. It’s a basic usability fail if you ask me.

But at least it’s good for Aube 👍

Haha! On the desktop version of Logic, I regularly start looking for a plugin before my mind has remembered what it's called. So I open up the AU browser, then scan the cursor up and down the list of developer names, which is no help remembering the plugin...until I finally remember what it is I want. So while a search option would be of zero help for me in this case, having a list of plugin names in front of me definitely would (Custom plugin folders is also a life-saver).

As much as I support the availability of such a plugin as AUBE, my current game-plan is to at least try and restrict my iOS plugin list enough that I won't need it

We all forget about dev names appart Brambos. First I was thinking that Aube wasn’t so useful. I was wrong at least it is good as now you can make categories and more about each app and what they do and buy less apps that overlaps so Aube help your wallet at the end .

It's not that I don't think AUBE is helpful. If it can make custom plugin folders then that'd be something I might be interested in. But it really all depends on what I end up keeping in rotation. Since wiping my iPad in anticipation of Logic, it's been a slow process of working out what I want to install, and trying to balance that against the minimum amount of Logic's content I can install...and all that balanced against space for non-music apps, for projects and to keep it all running smoothly. Having a 64GB iPAd is proving to be it's own discipline

I have a folders organisation like all compressors together, reverbs…. But I got a problem with apps that do many thing like reverb, delay, bit crusher all in one. Which folder to use ? Create a general folder named “Other Fx” not really helpful. Like say @samu I need to use deeper all of them. Hopefully I don’t have many fx apps stack to the good one if possible. I got too many synth but it is an other story I love synth … 😂

FX can be placed in multiple folders. So you could put 'Phat FX', for example. in 'Dynamics'. Filters', 'Distortion', or all of the above. If you don't want such redundancy, then just decide which is the feature you most associate with a given plug, then put it with those. For instance, if I were only allowed to choose one place to put 'Phat FX, I might be inclined to put it in the 'Filter' category

I have a category called “multi” for the likes of mixbox and chowmultitool 😊

Nice!

gregsmith

@janpieter said:

@gregsmith said:
No multi-out support for hosted auv3s it seems

After some reading here and on Steinberg’s Cubasis forum (!)… here’s how to proceed for multi-out in Logic.

1. Load the multi-out version of the AU on a track (I used FAC Drumkit), and assign the output busses (called EXT1, etc in FAC Drumkit).

2. Add as many sends as you want to use multi-outs to that track (these will now appear in the mixer as numbered aux channels, they’re not immediately visible on the track view but - just as the output track that doesn’t show by default - you can make them show up as tracks just as the output track).

note: after adding the first send use the ‘back’ icon on the plugin view header, then you will be able to add the next send (after adding the first send you will at first only see an option to add an audio effect..).

3. Go to the mixer view. The aux (send) tracks will each show a bus as their input. Click on such a bus icon. In the menu that appears there will be an option (the third) with the name of the track where you loaded your multi-out AU. Click on that and choose your desired output for that aux/send.

4. Repeat.

Thanks for this. Got it working quickly with DC without needing to reload the project so it’s great to know it’s supported, even if it is a little unintuitive. Maybe I just need to understand buses and sends a bit better.

Couldn’t get pure acid to work using the same technique though. The outs don’t show as options when selecting an aux input like they do with DC. I chose the multi out version, and made sure bass was set to bus 2 and drums to bus 3 in the PA mixer page, but no dice yet.

MadGav

Having just read through the thread I believe I see a theme - the engine is solid, but the UI is lacking! Though this is awful for new users, especially those without broader experience of DAWs, it does suggest that many improvements should be limited to sorting out the UI.

Given this, I would be surprised if there is no PDC… I’m not sure I have a suitable high latency AUv3 to test, but with parallel routing possible this should be quite easy to do? Anyone?

And anyone with desktop Logic, what happens when you load a project with ghost regions?

(Today is probably Logic day for me, have been waiting so that sub pay day is where I want it…)

And (apologies in advance to all Germans reading, this is meant to be fond humour), this app is German, so surely runs by German Logic. You can do many things, but it has to be done exactly the right way, and the instructions will inevitably start “You must…”

somblebeats

@DovJ said:
Missing:

• Control surface integration, whether Mackie/HUI or MIDI Learn
• Audio Plug-in Delay Compensation (MIDI seems to be supported)

Regarding PDC I’m fairly certain this is untrue and that it is in fact supported in Logic. If you add a bunch of high latency plugins (e.g. 4x Pro-L2 which report 65ms in AUM), then press play, there’s a clear delay between pressing play and playback actually occurring. Playing back two identical tracks (one with 4x Pro-L2), I can’t hear any substantial delay between the tracks.

That said, I did notice that there does seem to be a small bit of phasing between two tracks playing the exact same content, even if they have the exact same plugin chain.

DanSebPage

@somblebeats said:

@DovJ said:
Missing:

• Control surface integration, whether Mackie/HUI or MIDI Learn
• Audio Plug-in Delay Compensation (MIDI seems to be supported)

Regarding PDC I’m fairly certain this is untrue and that it is in fact supported in Logic. If you add a bunch of high latency plugins (e.g. 4x Pro-L2 which report 65ms in AUM), then press play, there’s a clear delay between pressing play and playback actually occurring. Playing back two identical tracks (one with 4x Pro-L2), I can’t hear any substantial delay between the tracks.

That said, I did notice that there does seem to be a small bit of phasing between two tracks playing the exact same content, even if they have the exact same plugin chain.

Thanks for the info. I also find it very hard to believe PDC isn't supported, especially when there's talk of a low latency monitoring mode switch in the manual (https://support.apple.com/en-gb/guide/logicpro-ipad/lpip67576fc5/1.0/ipados/16.0). Sounds like your results confirm it is in fact present - the 4x Pro L2 would definitely have an audible delay without PDC (Cubasis for example)

Janosax

About PDC I made this test the other day @somblebeats @DanSebPage.

@Janosax said:
Small test with midi playing a piano, first blue regions are midi bounce to audio with no effects added. Green region is bounce from same midi/piano but with multiple high latency plugins Maxima. Red region is bounce from same midi/piano but with multiple Maxima/NoLimits with look ahead set to max and timing seems to be messed as you can see on bounce track. Not that bad just be careful with some dynamic plugins with look ahead which usually are used on master so tracks timing should still be good.

Seems to be ok for me, PDC is supported. NoLimits is a special thing with lookahead.

Eclipxe

@MadGav said:
Having just read through the thread I believe I see a theme - the engine is solid, but the UI is lacking! Though this is awful for new users, especially those without broader experience of DAWs, it does suggest that many improvements should be limited to sorting out the UI.

Given this, I would be surprised if there is no PDC… I’m not sure I have a suitable high latency AUv3 to test, but with parallel routing possible this should be quite easy to do? Anyone?

And anyone with desktop Logic, what happens when you load a project with ghost regions?

(Today is probably Logic day for me, have been waiting so that sub pay day is where I want it…)

And (apologies in advance to all Germans reading, this is meant to be fond humour), this app is German, so surely runs by German Logic. You can do many things, but it has to be done exactly the right way, and the instructions will inevitably start “You must…”

Ghost or alias regions play back just fine. You just can't create them in the app.

I disagree about the UI lacking - the UI is brilliant. After a week of use - all of the little shortcuts and clever ways to deal with the screen size and orientation. Brilliant. I love the duplicate shortcuts and the momentary modes.

ErrkaPetti

Free Tempo Recording is missing in the iPad version of Logic Pro for iPad…

Perhaps this has been mentioned earlier, but I can’t see it in this thread…

Free Tempo Recording is pretty new to Mac Logic - presented in v.10.75 (10.78 is the newest)…

Samu

I'll add a super simple feature that is 'missing'...
...velocity in the automation editor
(It's there in LogicPro for Mac but missing in LogicPro for iPad).

DovJ

@somblebeats said:

@DovJ said:
Missing:

• Control surface integration, whether Mackie/HUI or MIDI Learn
• Audio Plug-in Delay Compensation (MIDI seems to be supported)

Regarding PDC I’m fairly certain this is untrue and that it is in fact supported in Logic. If you add a bunch of high latency plugins (e.g. 4x Pro-L2 which report 65ms in AUM), then press play, there’s a clear delay between pressing play and playback actually occurring. Playing back two identical tracks (one with 4x Pro-L2), I can’t hear any substantial delay between the tracks.

That said, I did notice that there does seem to be a small bit of phasing between two tracks playing the exact same content, even if they have the exact same plugin chain.

I have not done any testing (too busy learning other aspects of this complex app). I was unable to find the settings for latency (other than MIDI latency) as described in the Mac version, so I assumed it’s missing.

I am thrilled to hear PDC is present!

Now if I could only use my X Touch control surface, this would fill all my requirements! It’s pretty close, and light years ahead of Cubasis at this point.

realdawei

@monz0id said:
No option to slide notes using the Studio Strings instruments via the appropriate fingerboard, only preset, fixed ‘articulations’.

has anyone figured out how to switch articulations dynamically while performing? ( if it’s in the manual feel free to to direct me there )

cyberheater

@Luxthor said:
If anyone is interested, SugarBytes DrumComputer multi-out works fine, just tested it. Need to close Logic so you can choose a multi-out version of the plugin.

That is awesome. I just bought DrumComputer.

Luxthor

@cyberheater said:

@Luxthor said:
If anyone is interested, SugarBytes DrumComputer multi-out works fine, just tested it. Need to close Logic so you can choose a multi-out version of the plugin.

That is awesome. I just bought DrumComputer.

Glad you like it! Highly recommend the Apple Pencil to work with anything SugarBytes, it’s almost mandatory.