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BLEASS Voices by BLEASS (Released)

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  • HotStrangeHotStrange

    @Gavinski said:

    @setAI said:
    I've watched all the videos I could find of Voices but so far not a single one experiments with the random button! That's the main thing I want to check out before I decide to buy. This thing seems to be able to twist vocals pretty good. I want to see if it can really do some Nivek Ogre mangling with that random button.

    The randomizer button generally produces very unmusical results, as tends to be the case with Bleass randomizer buttons. To have any stab at having a good randomizer for a tonally based fx such as this it would need to have something like the ability to lock / unlock which parameters can be randomized, like Audiothing do in their apps. Really all devs with randomizers should implement that system Audiothing use. I tend to avoid Bleass randomizers, whether in synths or fx, though you get the odd interesting or usable result from time to time. Even when that happens, it will still almost always need a fair amount of tweaking.

    I like their randomizer for experimental stuff but I agree. I love the way TB implemented it in Flowtones. Even has a knob to input how experimental or usable you want them.

  • NeuMNeuM

    @HotStrange said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @setAI said:
    I've watched all the videos I could find of Voices but so far not a single one experiments with the random button! That's the main thing I want to check out before I decide to buy. This thing seems to be able to twist vocals pretty good. I want to see if it can really do some Nivek Ogre mangling with that random button.

    The randomizer button generally produces very unmusical results, as tends to be the case with Bleass randomizer buttons. To have any stab at having a good randomizer for a tonally based fx such as this it would need to have something like the ability to lock / unlock which parameters can be randomized, like Audiothing do in their apps. Really all devs with randomizers should implement that system Audiothing use. I tend to avoid Bleass randomizers, whether in synths or fx, though you get the odd interesting or usable result from time to time. Even when that happens, it will still almost always need a fair amount of tweaking.

    I like their randomizer for experimental stuff but I agree. I love the way TB implemented it in Flowtones. Even has a knob to input how experimental or usable you want them.

    I was about to write the same thing about Flowtones. Their implementation is just about perfect.

  • HotStrangeHotStrange

    @NeuM said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @setAI said:
    I've watched all the videos I could find of Voices but so far not a single one experiments with the random button! That's the main thing I want to check out before I decide to buy. This thing seems to be able to twist vocals pretty good. I want to see if it can really do some Nivek Ogre mangling with that random button.

    The randomizer button generally produces very unmusical results, as tends to be the case with Bleass randomizer buttons. To have any stab at having a good randomizer for a tonally based fx such as this it would need to have something like the ability to lock / unlock which parameters can be randomized, like Audiothing do in their apps. Really all devs with randomizers should implement that system Audiothing use. I tend to avoid Bleass randomizers, whether in synths or fx, though you get the odd interesting or usable result from time to time. Even when that happens, it will still almost always need a fair amount of tweaking.

    I like their randomizer for experimental stuff but I agree. I love the way TB implemented it in Flowtones. Even has a knob to input how experimental or usable you want them.

    I was about to write the same thing about Flowtones. Their implementation is just about perfect.

    It’s definitely my favorite implementation on iOS. I get something out of it every time. The BA1 might be the most musical though. It’s a close call.

  • GavinskiGavinski

    @setAI said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @setAI said:
    I've watched all the videos I could find of Voices but so far not a single one experiments with the random button! That's the main thing I want to check out before I decide to buy. This thing seems to be able to twist vocals pretty good. I want to see if it can really do some Nivek Ogre mangling with that random button.

    The randomizer button generally produces very unmusical results, as tends to be the case with Bleass randomizer buttons. To have any stab at having a good randomizer for a tonally based fx such as this it would need to have something like the ability to lock / unlock which parameters can be randomized, like Audiothing do in their apps. Really all devs with randomizers should implement that system Audiothing use. I tend to avoid Bleass randomizers, whether in synths or fx, though you get the odd interesting or usable result from time to time. Even when that happens, it will still almost always need a fair amount of tweaking.

    I guess everyone's different. What makes the BLEASS synths great, especially the samplwiz and Omega is the randomizer. It's really what sets them over the top above the competition. I often see people comment about randomizers and unmusical results. It's just unmusical to them. As an experimental musician I find the results of randomizers to be much more musically interesting then almost every designed preset. Using randomizers is a very important part of my own work with chaos. I devote my programming time to only a few choice synthesizers and software pieces. Usually modular. The vast majority of the sounds I use on my gear and software is entirely based on randomized parameters.

    Fair enough - yes, if you want chaos, the Bleass Randomizers, and most randomizers that people here will complain about. are absolutely perfect I guess. You’ll definitely adore the randomizer in ID700 then for sure!

  • HotStrangeHotStrange

    @Gavinski said:

    @setAI said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @setAI said:
    I've watched all the videos I could find of Voices but so far not a single one experiments with the random button! That's the main thing I want to check out before I decide to buy. This thing seems to be able to twist vocals pretty good. I want to see if it can really do some Nivek Ogre mangling with that random button.

    The randomizer button generally produces very unmusical results, as tends to be the case with Bleass randomizer buttons. To have any stab at having a good randomizer for a tonally based fx such as this it would need to have something like the ability to lock / unlock which parameters can be randomized, like Audiothing do in their apps. Really all devs with randomizers should implement that system Audiothing use. I tend to avoid Bleass randomizers, whether in synths or fx, though you get the odd interesting or usable result from time to time. Even when that happens, it will still almost always need a fair amount of tweaking.

    I guess everyone's different. What makes the BLEASS synths great, especially the samplwiz and Omega is the randomizer. It's really what sets them over the top above the competition. I often see people comment about randomizers and unmusical results. It's just unmusical to them. As an experimental musician I find the results of randomizers to be much more musically interesting then almost every designed preset. Using randomizers is a very important part of my own work with chaos. I devote my programming time to only a few choice synthesizers and software pieces. Usually modular. The vast majority of the sounds I use on my gear and software is entirely based on randomized parameters.

    Fair enough - yes, if you want chaos, the Bleass Randomizers, and most randomizers that people here will complain about. are absolutely perfect I guess. You’ll definitely adore the randomizer in ID700 then for sure!

    Haha that’s actually another one of my favorite randomizers on ios. But that may be because I love id700 so much.

  • gusgranitegusgranite

    @setAI said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @setAI said:
    I've watched all the videos I could find of Voices but so far not a single one experiments with the random button! That's the main thing I want to check out before I decide to buy. This thing seems to be able to twist vocals pretty good. I want to see if it can really do some Nivek Ogre mangling with that random button.

    The randomizer button generally produces very unmusical results, as tends to be the case with Bleass randomizer buttons. To have any stab at having a good randomizer for a tonally based fx such as this it would need to have something like the ability to lock / unlock which parameters can be randomized, like Audiothing do in their apps. Really all devs with randomizers should implement that system Audiothing use. I tend to avoid Bleass randomizers, whether in synths or fx, though you get the odd interesting or usable result from time to time. Even when that happens, it will still almost always need a fair amount of tweaking.

    I guess everyone's different. What makes the BLEASS synths great, especially the samplwiz and Omega is the randomizer. It's really what sets them over the top above the competition. I often see people comment about randomizers and unmusical results. It's just unmusical to them. As an experimental musician I find the results of randomizers to be much more musically interesting then almost every designed preset. Using randomizers is a very important part of my own work with chaos. I devote my programming time to only a few choice synthesizers and software pieces. Usually modular. The vast majority of the sounds I use on my gear and software is entirely based on randomized parameters.

    Brother/sister/other from another Mother! 🤝

  • BruquesBruques

    @setAI said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @setAI said:
    I've watched all the videos I could find of Voices but so far not a single one experiments with the random button! That's the main thing I want to check out before I decide to buy. This thing seems to be able to twist vocals pretty good. I want to see if it can really do some Nivek Ogre mangling with that random button.

    The randomizer button generally produces very unmusical results, as tends to be the case with Bleass randomizer buttons. To have any stab at having a good randomizer for a tonally based fx such as this it would need to have something like the ability to lock / unlock which parameters can be randomized, like Audiothing do in their apps. Really all devs with randomizers should implement that system Audiothing use. I tend to avoid Bleass randomizers, whether in synths or fx, though you get the odd interesting or usable result from time to time. Even when that happens, it will still almost always need a fair amount of tweaking.

    I guess everyone's different. What makes the BLEASS synths great, especially the samplwiz and Omega is the randomizer. It's really what sets them over the top above the competition. I often see people comment about randomizers and unmusical results. It's just unmusical to them. As an experimental musician I find the results of randomizers to be much more musically interesting then almost every designed preset. Using randomizers is a very important part of my own work with chaos. I devote my programming time to only a few choice synthesizers and software pieces. Usually modular. The vast majority of the sounds I use on my gear and software is entirely based on randomized parameters.

    "Is it a sound?"
    Then again is it music?
    Is music - the word I mean - is that a sound?
    If it is, is music music?
    is the word "music" music?
    "
    John Cage. Silence, P. 50.

  • setAIsetAI

    @HotStrange said:

    @Gavinski said:.

    Fair enough - yes, if you want chaos, the Bleass Randomizers, and most randomizers that people here will complain about. are absolutely perfect I guess. You’ll definitely adore the randomizer in ID700 then for sure!

    Haha that’s actually another one of my favorite randomizers on ios. But that may be because I love id700 so much.

    I am actually working on a whole album based on randomized ID700 soundscapes with Arturia Easel V rhythmic structures

  • GavinskiGavinski

    @setAI said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @Gavinski said:.

    Fair enough - yes, if you want chaos, the Bleass Randomizers, and most randomizers that people here will complain about. are absolutely perfect I guess. You’ll definitely adore the randomizer in ID700 then for sure!

    Haha that’s actually another one of my favorite randomizers on ios. But that may be because I love id700 so much.

    I am actually working on a whole album based on randomized ID700 soundscapes with Arturia Easel V rhythmic structures

    Well I would love to hear that! Your last post made me think a lot about this topic, and - as someone who loves experimental music - you might have at least partly convinced me that 'unmusical' randomizers have their plus points. Thank you for making me think more deeply on this topic!

  • HotStrangeHotStrange
    edited June 2023

    @setAI said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @Gavinski said:.

    Fair enough - yes, if you want chaos, the Bleass Randomizers, and most randomizers that people here will complain about. are absolutely perfect I guess. You’ll definitely adore the randomizer in ID700 then for sure!

    Haha that’s actually another one of my favorite randomizers on ios. But that may be because I love id700 so much.

    I am actually working on a whole album based on randomized ID700 soundscapes with Arturia Easel V rhythmic structures

    Oooo definitely post when finished. I don’t have a desktop but I’m a big Buchla fan. Would kill to have an exact clone of the Easel on iOS.

  • PxlhgPxlhg

    Superb video by Jakob Haq featuring Rooshie. Watch it.

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]
    edited June 2023

    @Pxlhg said:
    Superb video by Jakob Haq featuring Rooshie. Watch it.

    Ah, this is very, very good - there’s a whole bunch of stuff in there I didn’t pick up on in the other vids.

    Is this still the sale price?

  • PxlhgPxlhg

    @monz0id said:

    @Pxlhg said:
    Superb video by Jakob Haq featuring Rooshie. Watch it.

    Ah, this is very, very good - there’s a whole bunch of stuff in there I didn’t pick up on in the other vids.

    Is this still the sale price?

    I think so yes! I was reluctant thinking I have the Tonebooster VoicePitcher but after this video I bought it and, it is good :D

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]
    edited June 2023

    @Pxlhg said:

    @monz0id said:

    @Pxlhg said:
    Superb video by Jakob Haq featuring Rooshie. Watch it.

    Ah, this is very, very good - there’s a whole bunch of stuff in there I didn’t pick up on in the other vids.

    Is this still the sale price?

    I think so yes! I was reluctant thinking I have the Tonebooster VoicePitcher but after this video I bought it and, it is good :D

    Thanks - yeah me too! Really helped this vid, I'll probably get it shortly as well!

    Some good stuff in this video too:

  • Edward_AlexanderEdward_Alexander

    @setAI said:
    I've watched all the videos I could find of Voices but so far not a single one experiments with the random button!

    I can’t find anything on the 14 multi-out audio channels that this app has either.

  • GavinskiGavinski
    edited June 2023

    @setAI said:
    I've watched all the videos I could find of Voices but so far not a single one experiments with the random button!

    Because the random button isn't very good maybe for an effect like this. (Though as we discussed before you may disagree 😉)

    Bleass would really benefit from having a lock / unlock parameter function for their randomizers, like AudioThing do on their apps.

  • Edward_AlexanderEdward_Alexander

    @Gavinski said:

    @Edward_Alexander said:

    @setAI said:
    I've watched all the videos I could find of Voices but so far not a single one experiments with the random button!

    I can’t find anything on the 14 multi-out audio channels that this app has either.

    Because the random button isn't very good maybe for an effect like this. Bleass would really benefit from having a lock / unlock parameter function for their randomizers, like AudioThing do on their apps.

    I think you quoted the wrong post Gav, I wasn’t talking about the randomizer.

  • GavinskiGavinski

    @Edward_Alexander said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @Edward_Alexander said:

    @setAI said:
    I've watched all the videos I could find of Voices but so far not a single one experiments with the random button!

    I can’t find anything on the 14 multi-out audio channels that this app has either.

    Because the random button isn't very good maybe for an effect like this. Bleass would really benefit from having a lock / unlock parameter function for their randomizers, like AudioThing do on their apps.

    I think you quoted the wrong post Gav, I wasn’t talking about the randomizer.

    Yes, sorry, that was directed at the guy you quoted, will change it, cheers Ed

  • PxlhgPxlhg

    @Edward_Alexander said:

    @setAI said:
    I've watched all the videos I could find of Voices but so far not a single one experiments with the random button!

    I can’t find anything on the 14 multi-out audio channels that this app has either.

    Well, I didn't even know it was multi-out so, thanks Ed 😳😂

  • Johne1Johne1

    @Bruques said:
    Please be MPE :)

    This is from their website:

    “Alongside the extensive MPE support, BLEASS Voices also includes synth-style modulators that add new dimensions of movement and variation to your vocal performances. With two LFOs, an envelope follower and a pattern sequencer, BLEASS Voices is like a performance synth for vocals!“

  • Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredrWrlds2ndBstGeoshredr

    Seems that with MPE it should be possible to get non-12ET scales out of Bleass by using GeoShred as a controller. I will have to try this.

  • SimonSimon

    @monz0id said:
    Is this still the sale price?

    Yes - until June 25.

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    @Simon said:

    @monz0id said:
    Is this still the sale price?

    Yes - until June 25.

    Ok cheers.

    Finally plumped for this one as a treat, while I forget about the cost of the complete new roof we’ve been told we now need (that potential Push 3 purchase, fading into the distance).

    Not massively impressed with the tracking - way off some of the time if you put a simple synth sequence through it, for example. But. Having fun with a tiny grabbed bit of speech via Millilooper, run through Voices, with the pitch triggered via Riffer. Moving the looped selection about a bit makes an interesting rhythmic, pitched accompaniment to other synths triggered by the same Riffer sequence.

    Also does some nice Kraftwerk Trans Europe Express style drums if you put say, Drumcomputer through it. Ironically I’ve just finished the Karl Bartos biog.

    Until I get a proper audio interface I can’t put my old singsonging through it, but it should wash its face as an interesting fx.

  • HotStrangeHotStrange

    @monz0id said:

    @Simon said:

    @monz0id said:
    Is this still the sale price?

    Yes - until June 25.

    Ok cheers.

    Finally plumped for this one as a treat, while I forget about the cost of the complete new roof we’ve been told we now need (that potential Push 3 purchase, fading into the distance).

    Not massively impressed with the tracking - way off some of the time if you put a simple synth sequence through it, for example. But. Having fun with a tiny grabbed bit of speech via Millilooper, run through Voices, with the pitch triggered via Riffer. Moving the looped selection about a bit makes an interesting rhythmic, pitched accompaniment to other synths triggered by the same Riffer sequence.

    Also does some nice Kraftwerk Trans Europe Express style drums if you put say, Drumcomputer through it. Ironically I’ve just finished the Karl Bartos biog.

    Until I get a proper audio interface I can’t put my old singsonging through it, but it should wash its face as an interesting fx.

    Gonna have to try it will Mollilooper. I did something similar with Radio AU and Gauss fed into Voices. It’s a lot of fun! I’m just a sucker for Bleass’s effects.

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    @HotStrange said:

    @monz0id said:

    @Simon said:

    @monz0id said:
    Is this still the sale price?

    Yes - until June 25.

    Ok cheers.

    Finally plumped for this one as a treat, while I forget about the cost of the complete new roof we’ve been told we now need (that potential Push 3 purchase, fading into the distance).

    Not massively impressed with the tracking - way off some of the time if you put a simple synth sequence through it, for example. But. Having fun with a tiny grabbed bit of speech via Millilooper, run through Voices, with the pitch triggered via Riffer. Moving the looped selection about a bit makes an interesting rhythmic, pitched accompaniment to other synths triggered by the same Riffer sequence.

    Also does some nice Kraftwerk Trans Europe Express style drums if you put say, Drumcomputer through it. Ironically I’ve just finished the Karl Bartos biog.

    Until I get a proper audio interface I can’t put my old singsonging through it, but it should wash its face as an interesting fx.

    Gonna have to try it will Mollilooper. I did something similar with Radio AU and Gauss fed into Voices. It’s a lot of fun! I’m just a sucker for Bleass’s effects.

    Works nice with MolliLooper, as you can loop a tiny fragment of the speech you’ve captured, and then pitch it in time with other apps.

    It is fun, just wish I had an interface to use a mic with it (difficult to hear what I’m doing with the internal one). The new Arturia could be on the cards..

  • HotStrangeHotStrange

    @monz0id said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @monz0id said:

    @Simon said:

    @monz0id said:
    Is this still the sale price?

    Yes - until June 25.

    Ok cheers.

    Finally plumped for this one as a treat, while I forget about the cost of the complete new roof we’ve been told we now need (that potential Push 3 purchase, fading into the distance).

    Not massively impressed with the tracking - way off some of the time if you put a simple synth sequence through it, for example. But. Having fun with a tiny grabbed bit of speech via Millilooper, run through Voices, with the pitch triggered via Riffer. Moving the looped selection about a bit makes an interesting rhythmic, pitched accompaniment to other synths triggered by the same Riffer sequence.

    Also does some nice Kraftwerk Trans Europe Express style drums if you put say, Drumcomputer through it. Ironically I’ve just finished the Karl Bartos biog.

    Until I get a proper audio interface I can’t put my old singsonging through it, but it should wash its face as an interesting fx.

    Gonna have to try it will Mollilooper. I did something similar with Radio AU and Gauss fed into Voices. It’s a lot of fun! I’m just a sucker for Bleass’s effects.

    Works nice with MolliLooper, as you can loop a tiny fragment of the speech you’ve captured, and then pitch it in time with other apps.

    It is fun, just wish I had an interface to use a mic with it (difficult to hear what I’m doing with the internal one). The new Arturia could be on the cards..

    I’ve been using the vocoder mic that came with my Microfreak as it has a trs input on the back to monitor. It’s not perfect but it works for now. Was using it with DerVoco recently. I don’t have much space so if I get another interface it’ll likely be the iRig one.

  • sigma79sigma79

    Dont like you gotta use other apps for a better mic signal but I guess there not a case of any vocal recording app, which is ok enough just via the app.

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]
    edited June 2023

    @HotStrange said:
    I’ve been using the vocoder mic that came with my Microfreak as it has a trs input on the back to monitor. It’s not perfect but it works for now. Was using it with DerVoco recently. I don’t have much space so if I get another interface it’ll likely be the iRig one.

    I’ve got a basic old iRig, no audio out on mine though. Really taken with the MiniFuse 4 (or 2). The lass in the video is using one too, and seems to get great results. Actually I must try out Voices on my Air 2, as that has the headphone socket…

  • Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredrWrlds2ndBstGeoshredr

    @sigma79 said:
    Dont like you gotta use other apps for a better mic signal but I guess there not a case of any vocal recording app, which is ok enough just via the app.

    It works fine with my iPad’s internal mic. I load it in AUM and usually put a compressor first in the chain.

  • sigma79sigma79

    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:

    @sigma79 said:
    Dont like you gotta use other apps for a better mic signal but I guess there not a case of any vocal recording app, which is ok enough just via the app.

    It works fine with my iPad’s internal mic. I load it in AUM and usually put a compressor first in the chain.

    Cool.

    Its not just the mic.

    Got an actual mic.

    Its just where I decided to not buy an air 5 because I didnt think you would get 8gb ram.

    So a 3rd ipad setup is hassle ( when including a mic to audio interface )

    Are you saying this app is better through ipad mic rather than an actual mic?

    Or just saying you dont need an fx chain like brusfi. Filters etc before vocal app?

    Have a question though.

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