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BLEASS Voices by BLEASS (Released)

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  • sigma79sigma79

  • sigma79sigma79
    edited June 2023

    Mic.

    Blue cable from ipad to audio4c.

    2 x deck input.

    Can you pan from origin ipad, with the mono ts cable.

    You can pan on the reciever ipad.

    Need to pan from origin ipad.

    This way I dont have to unplug cables.

    Can have then a mic setup on another ipad.

    And also an ipad mic setup on the ipad thats just got headphone out ( blue cable ipad )

    Without losing pans of headphone out ipad ( blue cable ipad )

  • sigma79sigma79

    Dont mind a setup on another ipad. If the actual mic is better for singing.

    Then the ipad without the mic. Just for gaining samples of voice.

    But get ocd with unplugging cables.

    Ideally theres a way to keep pans from origin ipad, with the mono ts cable.

  • supadomsupadom

    @sigma79 said:

    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:

    @sigma79 said:
    Dont like you gotta use other apps for a better mic signal but I guess there not a case of any vocal recording app, which is ok enough just via the app.

    It works fine with my iPad’s internal mic. I load it in AUM and usually put a compressor first in the chain.

    Cool.

    Its not just the mic.

    Got an actual mic.

    Its just where I decided to not buy an air 5 because I didnt think you would get 8gb ram.

    So a 3rd ipad setup is hassle ( when including a mic to audio interface )

    Are you saying this app is better through ipad mic rather than an actual mic?

    Or just saying you dont need an fx chain like brusfi. Filters etc before vocal app?

    Have a question though.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if they tuned it up with IPads mic as that’s how most people will use it. IPads mic is actually great but picks up a lot of ambient as well as handling noise.

  • Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredrWrlds2ndBstGeoshredr

    Man, that is way too complex for my little human brain. I sing into the iPad mic and record the completely dry AUM channel (although listening to the fx channel over headphones for inspiration while singing). Then I go back later and remix, adjusting fx and eq, noise, etc.

    When I have a lot of harmonizer or delay fx running very wet, then I think mic quality and noise are less of a concern. I won’t hear the difference in the end product.

  • sigma79sigma79

    @supadom said:

    @sigma79 said:

    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:

    @sigma79 said:
    Dont like you gotta use other apps for a better mic signal but I guess there not a case of any vocal recording app, which is ok enough just via the app.

    It works fine with my iPad’s internal mic. I load it in AUM and usually put a compressor first in the chain.

    Cool.

    Its not just the mic.

    Got an actual mic.

    Its just where I decided to not buy an air 5 because I didnt think you would get 8gb ram.

    So a 3rd ipad setup is hassle ( when including a mic to audio interface )

    Are you saying this app is better through ipad mic rather than an actual mic?

    Or just saying you dont need an fx chain like brusfi. Filters etc before vocal app?

    Have a question though.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if they tuned it up with IPads mic as that’s how most people will use it. IPads mic is actually great but picks up a lot of ambient as well as handling noise.

    Thanks sup.

    Is there a way to pan from origin ipad as described?

    Can then have a mic setup and a sample setup via ipad mic.

    Theres that palouve imic though. That would solve the pan issue ( which is really ocd of not unplugging cables )

    but might not be that much better than ipad mic, anyway.

  • sigma79sigma79

    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:
    Man, that is way too complex for my little human brain. I sing into the iPad mic and record the completely dry AUM channel (although listening to the fx channel over headphones for inspiration while singing). Then I go back later and remix, adjusting fx and eq, noise, etc.

    When I have a lot of harmonizer or delay fx running very wet, then I think mic quality and noise are less of a concern. I won’t hear the difference in the end product.

    Think Id make an aum setup for wired mic. So that ipad will be using another host (Drambo) for drums. Think its better for cpu. Maybe enough cpu generally.

    but the ipad thats just headphone out loses pans, when mic is plugged in.

    If you cant make pans from origin ipad because of cable.

    Then can unplug a turntable. Or just lose pans until iv made wired mic recording. Then plug back in a stereo cable. To regain pans.

    Or just route the ipad through the turntable lol via cck2. Probably more noise than just via headphone out and probably not good needing deck on. Just for using ipad.

    I posted the extra info just because you said it were complex.

  • sigma79sigma79

    but yeah.

    Would have maybe just bought an ipad air 5. If there were info on ram.

    Would have solved the issue plus generally able to sidechain across ipads more, Without transfering to a DAW.

    3rd ipad dosent recieve sidechain but its a koala ipad with eq and this ipad might just be for temp audio anyway.

    Thats only if a kick drum is the only element that sidechains other elements and not vice versa.

  • sigma79sigma79

    but is there a way to gain pan from origin ipad. Then I can buy the app.

    Duplicate tracks?

    Drambos mono to stereo?

    Drambo L and R etc ?

  • supadomsupadom
    edited June 2023

    @sigma79 said:

    @supadom said:

    @sigma79 said:

    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:

    @sigma79 said:
    Dont like you gotta use other apps for a better mic signal but I guess there not a case of any vocal recording app, which is ok enough just via the app.

    It works fine with my iPad’s internal mic. I load it in AUM and usually put a compressor first in the chain.

    Cool.

    Its not just the mic.

    Got an actual mic.

    Its just where I decided to not buy an air 5 because I didnt think you would get 8gb ram.

    So a 3rd ipad setup is hassle ( when including a mic to audio interface )

    Are you saying this app is better through ipad mic rather than an actual mic?

    Or just saying you dont need an fx chain like brusfi. Filters etc before vocal app?

    Have a question though.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if they tuned it up with IPads mic as that’s how most people will use it. IPads mic is actually great but picks up a lot of ambient as well as handling noise.

    Thanks sup.

    Is there a way to pan from origin ipad as described?

    Can then have a mic setup and a sample setup via ipad mic.

    Theres that palouve imic though. That would solve the pan issue ( which is really ocd of not unplugging cables )

    but might not be that much better than ipad mic, anyway.

    I honestly don’t know, I’ve never messed around with that so don’t want to give you the wrong info. I’ve always tried to go the single iPad route precisely for this reason.

    However, as far as I know IPad Air 5 has 8gb ram. This has been confirmed by gsmarena. They’re quite reputable for devices info.

    https://www.gsmarena.com/apple_ipad_air_(2022)-11411.php

    Also Geekbench has air 5 just below iPad Pro 11” 3rd gen which I’m using and find very impressive.

  • sigma79sigma79

    @supadom said:

    @sigma79 said:

    @supadom said:

    @sigma79 said:

    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:

    @sigma79 said:
    Dont like you gotta use other apps for a better mic signal but I guess there not a case of any vocal recording app, which is ok enough just via the app.

    It works fine with my iPad’s internal mic. I load it in AUM and usually put a compressor first in the chain.

    Cool.

    Its not just the mic.

    Got an actual mic.

    Its just where I decided to not buy an air 5 because I didnt think you would get 8gb ram.

    So a 3rd ipad setup is hassle ( when including a mic to audio interface )

    Are you saying this app is better through ipad mic rather than an actual mic?

    Or just saying you dont need an fx chain like brusfi. Filters etc before vocal app?

    Have a question though.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if they tuned it up with IPads mic as that’s how most people will use it. IPads mic is actually great but picks up a lot of ambient as well as handling noise.

    Thanks sup.

    Is there a way to pan from origin ipad as described?

    Can then have a mic setup and a sample setup via ipad mic.

    Theres that palouve imic though. That would solve the pan issue ( which is really ocd of not unplugging cables )

    but might not be that much better than ipad mic, anyway.

    I honestly don’t know, I’ve never messed around with that so don’t want to give you the wrong info. I’ve always tried to go the single iPad route precisely for this reason.

    However, as far as I know IPad Air 5 has 8gb ram. This has been confirmed by gsmarena. They’re quite reputable for devices info.

    https://www.gsmarena.com/apple_ipad_air_(2022)-11411.php

    Also Geekbench has air 5 just below iPad Pro 11” 3rd gen which I’m using and find very impressive.

    Thanks sup.

    Shoulda bought the air 5.

    Not sure if you get 8gb though. It were 5gb in 2021.

    Would have solved connection issues.

    but can just unplug as needed.

    I guess the setup is configured more DAW like, now, anyway.

  • Blipsford_BaubieBlipsford_Baubie

    Just bought.
    Always wanted to participate in SOTM, but can’t sing. Will now cheat.

    I don’t write cause I’ve nothing to say, but will now cheat with AI.

    Everything will sound superficial, but that’s me. I’m a big, fat, phony. I look forward to tainting all the fine work on SOTM.

  • ervinervin

    @Blipsford_Baubie said:
    Just bought.
    Always wanted to participate in SOTM, but can’t sing. Will now cheat.

    I don’t write cause I’ve nothing to say, but will now cheat with AI.

    Everything will sound superficial, but that’s me. I’m a big, fat, phony. I look forward to tainting all the fine work on SOTM.

    I'm actually looking forward to your fake efforts. Respect, mate. 👊

  • HotStrangeHotStrange

    @monz0id said:

    @HotStrange said:
    I’ve been using the vocoder mic that came with my Microfreak as it has a trs input on the back to monitor. It’s not perfect but it works for now. Was using it with DerVoco recently. I don’t have much space so if I get another interface it’ll likely be the iRig one.

    I’ve got a basic old iRig, no audio out on mine though. Really taken with the MiniFuse 4 (or 2). The lass in the video is using one too, and seems to get great results. Actually I must try out Voices on my Air 2, as that has the headphone socket…

    I need to look more into that MiniFuse. I’ve heard good things about that and Volt.

  • sigma79sigma79

    Cool app.

  • Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredrWrlds2ndBstGeoshredr

    How do I access the multi-out in AUM? I open a new audio channel and look under “multi bus audio unit instances”, but there are no Voices outs showing.

  • PolyphonixPolyphonix

    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:
    How do I access the multi-out in AUM? I open a new audio channel and look under “multi bus audio unit instances”, but there are no Voices outs showing.

    Works fine for me, the multi-out's are visible in the effect slot. Try a reboot and/or delete and reinstall…

  • supadomsupadom

    I just made a little something this morning using Bleass Voices, among others.

  • eylvyeylvy

  • sigma79sigma79

    Didnt need Bleass for this.

    Worse, sort of singing than a football hooligan.

    Lung damage makes me cough with speaking.

    But can remodel myself into a Brightonion Mod/ Lunantic.

  • BruquesBruques

    @supadom said:
    I just made a little something this morning using Bleass Voices, among others.

    Very nice,
    what gooseneck is that?

  • Blipsford_BaubieBlipsford_Baubie

    @supadom said:
    I just made a little something this morning using Bleass Voices, among others.

    Hey. I’ve been listening to stuff from Deep Jungle Records while at work the past couple days. What a coincidental surprise when I played this. Thanks for keeping the vibe going!
    I would like to have heard your dry vocal just as loud or present as the dub fx ones.
    Which app are you using for the feedback delay? I’m wondering if I have it too.

  • Johne1Johne1

    @sigma79 said:
    but yeah.

    Would have maybe just bought an ipad air 5. If there were info on ram.

    Would have solved the issue plus generally able to sidechain across ipads more, Without transfering to a DAW.

    3rd ipad dosent recieve sidechain but its a koala ipad with eq and this ipad might just be for temp audio anyway.

    Thats only if a kick drum is the only element that sidechains other elements and not vice versa.

    iPad Air 5th Generation Specs
    https://support.apple.com/kb/SP866?locale=en_US

  • sigma79sigma79

    @Johne1 said:

    @sigma79 said:
    but yeah.

    Would have maybe just bought an ipad air 5. If there were info on ram.

    Would have solved the issue plus generally able to sidechain across ipads more, Without transfering to a DAW.

    3rd ipad dosent recieve sidechain but its a koala ipad with eq and this ipad might just be for temp audio anyway.

    Thats only if a kick drum is the only element that sidechains other elements and not vice versa.

    iPad Air 5th Generation Specs
    https://support.apple.com/kb/SP866?locale=en_US

    Decided not to buy but would have been better connection wise. Even when I thought id sorted it.

    Dont think you get 8gb though. The pro is 16gb but you get maybe 12gb.

    Wish id bought because of being able to scratch and vocal mic be through same effects chain/host.These will be on different ipads.

    but think an ipad 9 just for synths. Air 3 for vocals ( multi out and multi effect ) plus koalas etc.

    Maybe better than air 5.

    What do you think.

    Air 5. Probably 6 gb. Maybe better allocated ram for auv3 ( if thats not the case for the ipad 9 and air 3 ) These are 2 x 3gb ram but the air 5 is better ram.

    M1 chip vs 2 x chips of the ipad 9 and air 3.

  • sigma79sigma79

    Thanks though.

  • supadomsupadom

    @Blipsford_Baubie said:

    @supadom said:
    I just made a little something this morning using Bleass Voices, among others.

    Hey. I’ve been listening to stuff from Deep Jungle Records while at work the past couple days. What a coincidental surprise when I played this. Thanks for keeping the vibe going!
    I would like to have heard your dry vocal just as loud or present as the dub fx ones.
    Which app are you using for the feedback delay? I’m wondering if I have it too.

    Yes, the vocal levels are all over the place. The whole thing is a reckless jam, or rather, should have never reached YouTube 🤣 but I’m quite shit at quality control and just post whatever gets me happy on the day.

    The dubby delay is what I’ve made in Drambo. I’m trying to maximise the amount of control I get from Launch Control XL so I’ve made one macro knob for reverb and delay with close to dry in the middle.

    Drambo is a superb playground for audio effect building.

  • sigma79sigma79

    App is good.

    Probably setup on 3 ipads.

    A voice mangler on an ipad, where its like you sampled radio loops etc. Turntable style.

    Then a clean singing voice on other ipad, bleass or not.

    Then a general 1 shot sampler ipad. May as well bleass voice, an option.

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    This seems like an amazing app. I’m just wondering if MolochVox might get ignored now with this.

    Ofc it’s much more advanced and Moloch is geared for evil :lol but idk

    Does this have a freeze? I didn’t see it in the video

    Any moloch owners use both?

  • monksCatmonksCat

    I tested out the demo version a bit. Pretty cool but its odd that six years later and we still don't have a harmonizer that could do what Jacob Collier's custom one does.. (more on this later)

    Still a bit unsure if I'm gonna buy because its at full price right now. My main question is, how does this compare to Waves Harmony or Antares Harmony engine? Obviously MPE, but other than that its pretty darn similar to Waves which I already own. (Izotope Vocalysynth and Waves Ovox are NOT harmonizers, they are primarily vocoders, which can give a similar result but is a fundamentally different concept.)

    The MPE functionality is cool, and since I recently got an osmose I should probably just explore Voices more. But the vibrato still sounds thin and not that useable. Harmonizers in general are very hard to get to sound good, I guess. My main application is for playing live, doing stuff (of orders of magnitude less complex) like Jacob Collier does.

    We still don't have the elusive "freeze" function Jacob Collier has on his. Basically it allows you to hit a sustain pedal and it will ring out whatever voices were currently being sung. Also the Glide function doesn't seem quite as nuanced.

    Still, I feel as if it sounds slightly better out of the box than waves harmony. Anyone else have thoughts on comparisons to other harmonizer plugins?

  • BruquesBruques

    @monksCat said:
    I tested out the demo version a bit. Pretty cool but its odd that six years later and we still don't have a harmonizer that could do what Jacob Collier's custom one does.. (more on this later)

    Still a bit unsure if I'm gonna buy because its at full price right now. My main question is, how does this compare to Waves Harmony or Antares Harmony engine? Obviously MPE, but other than that its pretty darn similar to Waves which I already own. (Izotope Vocalysynth and Waves Ovox are NOT harmonizers, they are primarily vocoders, which can give a similar result but is a fundamentally different concept.)

    The MPE functionality is cool, and since I recently got an osmose I should probably just explore Voices more. But the vibrato still sounds thin and not that useable. Harmonizers in general are very hard to get to sound good, I guess. My main application is for playing live, doing stuff (of orders of magnitude less complex) like Jacob Collier does.

    We still don't have the elusive "freeze" function Jacob Collier has on his. Basically it allows you to hit a sustain pedal and it will ring out whatever voices were currently being sung. Also the Glide function doesn't seem quite as nuanced.

    Still, I feel as if it sounds slightly better out of the box than waves harmony. Anyone else have thoughts on comparisons to other harmonizer plugins?

    I would say it's on a par or slightly better than Waves Harmony, (or Melda MHarmonizerMB) (and actually Vocalsynth because vocalsynth does have a Waves Harmony style harmonizer, alongside a vocoder, and talkbox, it's up to you which module you use it for), and the TC Helicon's that are the real comparison.

    Jacob Collier's harmonizer was not custom the way people talk about. He uses a TC Perform VK, you can see it here

    Ben Bloomberg who did his tech support documents what was "custom" in his PhD thesis at MIT:

    "Simultaneously, we were able to improve the harmonizer. I came up with a plan of using a small industrial PC,
    made by Portwell, with no moving parts or fans, to run the Reaper session. The computer would sit in a Peli-
    can case with an audio interface, a small mixer and the TC Helicon, which we chose to use, in parallel, to give
    the impression of lower latency and because its high voices were quite appealing. This was all squeezed in and
    wired up so that using the harmonizer was as simple as plugging in a mic and power, connecting the outputs
    and turning on the computer. "
    https://ben.ai/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Making-Musical-Magic-Live-Dissertation-V1.pdf

    From the horses mouth, behind the curtain (scuse the mixed metaphors), Jacobs infamous harmonizer was always the TC.

    It was some media hype around Ben's work to make it sound like something way advanced, but he himself says in the thesis, they didn't do any harmonizer creating, almost apologizing for the fact.

    If you can point at an example of the Collier freezing I'm sure it's reasonably trivial to work out a technique to do it, all kinds of granular reverb plugs and pedals have freeze functions, it's a fair bet the PerformVK was paired with such.

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