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SynthMaster 3 by KV331 Audio (Released on Desktop)

https://www.synthmaster.com/synthmaster3.aspx?referrer=twitter

SynthMaster 3 is KV331 Audio's flagship all-around modular software synthesizer available in VST2, VST3, AudioUnits and AAX formats. It features many different synthesis methods including VAnalog, Additive, Vector, Wavetable, Granular, Phase Modulation, Phase Distortion, Frequency Modulation, Pulse Width Modulation, Ring Modulation, Physical Modeling and SFZ Sample Playback!

New Features

Modular Architecture:

• Generator modules: Basic Oscillator, Additive Oscillator, Vector Oscillator, Wavetable Oscillator, VAnalog Oscillator, Granular
Oscillator and Modulator.

• Effect modules: Digital Filter, VAnalog Filter, State Variable Filter, Ladder Filter, Diode Ladder Filter, Bite Filter, Comb Filter, Phaser Filter, Formant Filter and Waveshaper.

• ADSR Envelope, Multistage Envelope
• LFO, Step LFO, Noise LFO
• Scaler

Demo Version:

A demo version of SynthMaster 3 is available for download from KV331 Audio web site. It is identical to the standard version except the following limitations:

• The demo stops working after 30 minutes.
• The demo saves presets but they can only be opened with the paid version of the plug-in.
• The demo emits noise at every minute.
• Exporting multi-samples in sfz format is disabled.
• Exporting wavetables in WAV format is disabled.
• Samples in Factory Sample Library have 13 bit resolution.

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Comments

  • Amazing. Bit by bit there's nothing I need on the desktop. A "vital" addition to iOS.

  • Instabuy for me.

  • edited June 2023

    Just when I said I wouldn’t buy anymore : the undeniable and the unbeatable comes up and pops out of nowhere
    I heard it was in the work but the official news is great
    Last synth purchase for a while after this; serious this time lmfao

    Man it looks great

  • will wait for final UI of plugin, SM2 is convoluted mess ...

  • @dendy said:
    will wait for final UI of plugin, SM2 is convoluted mess ...

    Yeah I really hope they tweak the interface a good bit. If not, I doubt it will be worth it considering Buttersynth exists. I love SM2 from a sound standpoint but I don’t do much beyond slight tweaks to presets because I just don’t enjoy making patches with that interface. Buttersynth is a breeze in comparison.

    If the interface seems better and there are more unique features I’ll probably buy. If not, I think I’ll be okay with SM1/2

  • I’m afraid I’m completely over the SM family. There are so many far better things out there (on desktop anyway).

  • I might give this a shot, at least in AUM. Looking forward to this. :)

  • Will it also run on iPhone , or will it be iPad only like SM2?

  • @HotStrange said:

    @dendy said:
    will wait for final UI of plugin, SM2 is convoluted mess ...

    Yeah I really hope they tweak the interface a good bit. If not, I doubt it will be worth it considering Buttersynth exists. I love SM2 from a sound standpoint but I don’t do much beyond slight tweaks to presets because I just don’t enjoy making patches with that interface. Buttersynth is a breeze in comparison.

    If the interface seems better and there are more unique features I’ll probably buy. If not, I think I’ll be okay with SM1/2

    You can make presets/patches in sm2?

    (J/k, but I agree, you use what’s given rather than make one for sure; but with 1000 stock sounds u know?)

  • @fearandloathing said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @dendy said:
    will wait for final UI of plugin, SM2 is convoluted mess ...

    Yeah I really hope they tweak the interface a good bit. If not, I doubt it will be worth it considering Buttersynth exists. I love SM2 from a sound standpoint but I don’t do much beyond slight tweaks to presets because I just don’t enjoy making patches with that interface. Buttersynth is a breeze in comparison.

    If the interface seems better and there are more unique features I’ll probably buy. If not, I think I’ll be okay with SM1/2

    You can make presets/patches in sm2?

    (J/k, but I agree, you use what’s given rather than make one for sure; but with 1000 stock sounds u know?)

    Yeah it’s great that it comes with so many patches. I rarely feel like I need something more, but I don’t use it as often these days. I probably need to.

  • @qryss said:
    I’m afraid I’m completely over the SM family. There are so many far better things out there (on desktop anyway).

    Likewise. They lost me permanently as a customer due to their inattentiveness to issues with their software. I don’t need the headaches.

  • Sounds good. Over it. Fix the usability in logic first.

  • edited June 2023

    @fearandloathing said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @dendy said:
    will wait for final UI of plugin, SM2 is convoluted mess ...

    Yeah I really hope they tweak the interface a good bit. If not, I doubt it will be worth it considering Buttersynth exists. I love SM2 from a sound standpoint but I don’t do much beyond slight tweaks to presets because I just don’t enjoy making patches with that interface. Buttersynth is a breeze in comparison.

    If the interface seems better and there are more unique features I’ll probably buy. If not, I think I’ll be okay with SM1/2

    You can make presets/patches in sm2?

    (J/k, but I agree, you use what’s given rather than make one for sure; but with 1000 stock sounds u know?)

    i am sound designer .. i am the guy who usually makes those presets which then sit in bank, ready for people who just want to play with synth without spending too much time seriously tweaking it ..

    So if synth has horribly convoluted messy UI to the level that doing any deep sound design is endless suffering, it’s not for me 🤣

  • @dendy said:

    @fearandloathing said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @dendy said:
    will wait for final UI of plugin, SM2 is convoluted mess ...

    Yeah I really hope they tweak the interface a good bit. If not, I doubt it will be worth it considering Buttersynth exists. I love SM2 from a sound standpoint but I don’t do much beyond slight tweaks to presets because I just don’t enjoy making patches with that interface. Buttersynth is a breeze in comparison.

    If the interface seems better and there are more unique features I’ll probably buy. If not, I think I’ll be okay with SM1/2

    You can make presets/patches in sm2?

    (J/k, but I agree, you use what’s given rather than make one for sure; but with 1000 stock sounds u know?)

    i am sound designer .. i am the guy who usually makes those presets which then sit in bank, ready for people who just want to play with synth without spending too much time seriously tweaking it ..

    So if synth has horribly convoluted messy UI to the level that doing any deep sound design is endless suffering, it’s not for me 🤣

    Agreed. I love just sitting around and making patches, it’s a big part of what draws me to a synth. If the interface is bad I’ll usually either pass or never use it. I only use SM2 because of the sheer number of presets but even those are not as easy to get into 😂

  • edited June 2023

    @HotStrange said:

    @dendy said:
    will wait for final UI of plugin, SM2 is convoluted mess ...

    Yeah I really hope they tweak the interface a good bit. If not, I doubt it will be worth it considering Buttersynth exists. I love SM2 from a sound standpoint but I don’t do much beyond slight tweaks to presets because I just don’t enjoy making patches with that interface. Buttersynth is a breeze in comparison.

    If the interface seems better and there are more unique features I’ll probably buy. If not, I think I’ll be okay with SM1/2

    Fair enough, in my case this will be a no brainer instabuy. For MPE players, Buttersynth is not on the cards, we need to be able to set up parameter assignments of per-note CC74 y axis finger wobbling :smiley: so there's nothing as good as SM2 at what it does, as kind of NI Massive on iOS that is MPE (Edit; obviously more synthesis methods than massive, not a great like for like comparison). In standalone once I know where the main things all are then I do indeed sound design not always from scratch but at very least amend. Not to disagree, just that it's a perennial truism that UI doesn't need to be the best, just familiar (a la Donald Norman / Gibson / "affordances") so, in my own case, if I'm not familiar before, I go through the pain stage in order to reap the benefits of making it bend to my will. The bigger pain for me is the bugs, that half the matrix functionality and adjusting of that disappears in AUv3 - so I look forward to the dev rolling those fixes in to SM3.

    At least it's easier to navigate than Woodsynth! Maybe, if there was an easier to use (and bug free) as-comprehensive Wavetable MPE synth maybe I wouldn't turn to SM2. But right now it remains in my top few and thus part of my Loopy go to template (Tera Pro, SM2, Tal-Uno-LX, Model D, Animoog, Megalit, Omega, Pianoteq, FRMS, Samplewiz 2, Quanta, DrumComputer and now Voices)

  • @Bruques said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @dendy said:
    will wait for final UI of plugin, SM2 is convoluted mess ...

    Yeah I really hope they tweak the interface a good bit. If not, I doubt it will be worth it considering Buttersynth exists. I love SM2 from a sound standpoint but I don’t do much beyond slight tweaks to presets because I just don’t enjoy making patches with that interface. Buttersynth is a breeze in comparison.

    If the interface seems better and there are more unique features I’ll probably buy. If not, I think I’ll be okay with SM1/2

    Fair enough, in my case this will be a no brainer instabuy. For MPE players, Buttersynth is not on the cards, we need to be able to set up parameter assignments of per-note CC74 y axis finger wobbling :smiley: so there's nothing as good as SM2 at what it does, as kind of NI Massive on iOS that is MPE (Edit; obviously more synthesis methods than massive, not a great like for like comparison). In standalone once I know where the main things all are then I do indeed sound design not always from scratch but at very least amend. Not to disagree, just that it's a perennial truism that UI doesn't need to be the best, just familiar (a la Donald Norman / Gibson / "affordances") so, in my own case, if I'm not familiar before, I go through the pain stage in order to reap the benefits of making it bend to my will. The bigger pain for me is the bugs, that half the matrix functionality and adjusting of that disappears in AUv3 - so I look forward to the dev rolling those fixes in to SM3.

    At least it's easier to navigate than Woodsynth! Maybe, if there was an easier to use (and bug free) as-comprehensive Wavetable MPE synth maybe I wouldn't turn to SM2. But right now it remains in my top few and thus part of my Loopy go to template (Tera Pro, SM2, Tal-Uno-LX, Model D, Animoog, Megalit, Omega, Pianoteq, FRMS, Samplewiz 2, Quanta, DrumComputer and now Voices)

    Are you using Loopy or Loopy Pro?

    Also I should clarify, I actually quite like SM2. Sound wise it’s one of the best on iOS for sure. The interface just never clicked with me personally. I mean I had a Blofeld which is known for its weird UI but I found it quite easy. Something about SM2 just never fully gelled with me. I do tweak the factory presets and effects to my liking but I never make patches from scratch, which is one of my favorite things to do. And a big reason I love apps like Buttersynth, Mela, Alpha, etc.

    Agreed on Woodsynth. I finally bought it a few weeks back and it sounds great and has tons of features but they’re all locked behind a really not great interface.

  • @HotStrange said:

    @Bruques said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @dendy said:
    will wait for final UI of plugin, SM2 is convoluted mess ...

    Yeah I really hope they tweak the interface a good bit. If not, I doubt it will be worth it considering Buttersynth exists. I love SM2 from a sound standpoint but I don’t do much beyond slight tweaks to presets because I just don’t enjoy making patches with that interface. Buttersynth is a breeze in comparison.

    If the interface seems better and there are more unique features I’ll probably buy. If not, I think I’ll be okay with SM1/2

    Fair enough, in my case this will be a no brainer instabuy. For MPE players, Buttersynth is not on the cards, we need to be able to set up parameter assignments of per-note CC74 y axis finger wobbling :smiley: so there's nothing as good as SM2 at what it does, as kind of NI Massive on iOS that is MPE (Edit; obviously more synthesis methods than massive, not a great like for like comparison). In standalone once I know where the main things all are then I do indeed sound design not always from scratch but at very least amend. Not to disagree, just that it's a perennial truism that UI doesn't need to be the best, just familiar (a la Donald Norman / Gibson / "affordances") so, in my own case, if I'm not familiar before, I go through the pain stage in order to reap the benefits of making it bend to my will. The bigger pain for me is the bugs, that half the matrix functionality and adjusting of that disappears in AUv3 - so I look forward to the dev rolling those fixes in to SM3.

    At least it's easier to navigate than Woodsynth! Maybe, if there was an easier to use (and bug free) as-comprehensive Wavetable MPE synth maybe I wouldn't turn to SM2. But right now it remains in my top few and thus part of my Loopy go to template (Tera Pro, SM2, Tal-Uno-LX, Model D, Animoog, Megalit, Omega, Pianoteq, FRMS, Samplewiz 2, Quanta, DrumComputer and now Voices)

    Are you using Loopy or Loopy Pro?

    Pro, sorry, being a lazy typist

    Also I should clarify, I actually quite like SM2. Sound wise it’s one of the best on iOS for sure. The interface just never clicked with me personally. I mean I had a Blofeld which is known for its weird UI but I found it quite easy. Something about SM2 just never fully gelled with me. I do tweak the factory presets and effects to my liking but I never make patches from scratch, which is one of my favorite things to do. And a big reason I love apps like Buttersynth, Mela, Alpha, etc.

    Agreed on Woodsynth. I finally bought it a few weeks back and it sounds great and has tons of features but they’re all locked behind a really not great interface.

  • @dendy said:

    @fearandloathing said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @dendy said:
    will wait for final UI of plugin, SM2 is convoluted mess ...

    Yeah I really hope they tweak the interface a good bit. If not, I doubt it will be worth it considering Buttersynth exists. I love SM2 from a sound standpoint but I don’t do much beyond slight tweaks to presets because I just don’t enjoy making patches with that interface. Buttersynth is a breeze in comparison.

    If the interface seems better and there are more unique features I’ll probably buy. If not, I think I’ll be okay with SM1/2

    You can make presets/patches in sm2?

    (J/k, but I agree, you use what’s given rather than make one for sure; but with 1000 stock sounds u know?)

    i am sound designer .. i am the guy who usually makes those presets which then sit in bank, ready for people who just want to play with synth without spending too much time seriously tweaking it ..

    So if synth has horribly convoluted messy UI to the level that doing any deep sound design is endless suffering, it’s not for me 🤣

    Hey @dendy, sry for my noob-ism, do you sell those sounds? Is there a place I can listen to it? I’m curious, actually can’t wait . 😅

    Regarding SM3, you really need to be a programmer involved in serious projects to understand how much effort is needed to fundamentally change the UI. So it’s highly unlikely that v.3 will have a new UI. But excitement for the new wavetable editor is certain, at least for me.

  • Yeah, the number of bug reports and general sense of unresponsiveness has pissed a lot of people off. Unless I see that radically change I will definitely not be reviewing SM3.

    @NeuM said:

    @qryss said:
    I’m afraid I’m completely over the SM family. There are so many far better things out there (on desktop anyway).

    Likewise. They lost me permanently as a customer due to their inattentiveness to issues with their software. I don’t need the headaches.

  • edited June 2023

    @Luxthor said:

    @dendy said:

    @fearandloathing said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @dendy said:
    will wait for final UI of plugin, SM2 is convoluted mess ...

    Yeah I really hope they tweak the interface a good bit. If not, I doubt it will be worth it considering Buttersynth exists. I love SM2 from a sound standpoint but I don’t do much beyond slight tweaks to presets because I just don’t enjoy making patches with that interface. Buttersynth is a breeze in comparison.

    If the interface seems better and there are more unique features I’ll probably buy. If not, I think I’ll be okay with SM1/2

    You can make presets/patches in sm2?

    (J/k, but I agree, you use what’s given rather than make one for sure; but with 1000 stock sounds u know?)

    i am sound designer .. i am the guy who usually makes those presets which then sit in bank, ready for people who just want to play with synth without spending too much time seriously tweaking it ..

    So if synth has horribly convoluted messy UI to the level that doing any deep sound design is endless suffering, it’s not for me 🤣

    Hey @dendy, sry for my noob-ism, do you sell those sounds? Is there a place I can listen to it? I’m curious, actually can’t wait . 😅

    From those i am actually selling just few here
    https://dendy.gumroad.com/

    Very few free things:
    https://patchstorage.com/author/dendy/

    Made also part of Butter Synth factory patches (obviously folder named “Dendy” :-)) and around 250 patches in Nanostudio 2 Obsidian patch bank and few Slate drum banks (Crushed LoFi, Electro 1/2, Hard Step 1/2, Head Slap 1/2, Trance 1/2) - btw all drums are not samoled takn from somewhere :-) - I syntherised them from scratch Obsidian and multiple resampling iterations :-))

    Participated also on few other projects long time ago in my “desktop music” era but those are gone somnot worth to mention …

    Regarding SM3, you really need to be a programmer involved in serious projects to understand how much effort is needed to fundamentally change the UI. So it’s highly unlikely that v.3 will have a new UI. But excitement for the new wavetable editor is certain, at least for me.

    Actually i am programmer for +25years :-) it’s my job .. just 4 years ago we decided to completely rebuild our app from scratch exactly because of fundamenral UI change .. my part is probably 70% of app code, total app size is around 400k lines of code .. it took me to build basis of new app probably 6-8 months - after that my colleagues started to contribute with code …

  • @Bruques said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @dendy said:
    will wait for final UI of plugin, SM2 is convoluted mess ...

    Yeah I really hope they tweak the interface a good bit. If not, I doubt it will be worth it considering Buttersynth exists. I love SM2 from a sound standpoint but I don’t do much beyond slight tweaks to presets because I just don’t enjoy making patches with that interface. Buttersynth is a breeze in comparison.

    If the interface seems better and there are more unique features I’ll probably buy. If not, I think I’ll be okay with SM1/2

    Fair enough, in my case this will be a no brainer instabuy. For MPE players, Buttersynth is not on the cards, we need to be able to set up parameter assignments of per-note CC74 y axis finger wobbling :smiley: so there's nothing as good as SM2 at what it does, as kind of NI Massive on iOS that is MPE (Edit; obviously more synthesis methods than massive, not a great like for like comparison). In standalone once I know where the main things all are then I do indeed sound design not always from scratch but at very least amend. Not to disagree, just that it's a perennial truism that UI doesn't need to be the best, just familiar (a la Donald Norman / Gibson / "affordances") so, in my own case, if I'm not familiar before, I go through the pain stage in order to reap the benefits of making it bend to my will. The bigger pain for me is the bugs, that half the matrix functionality and adjusting of that disappears in AUv3 - so I look forward to the dev rolling those fixes in to SM3.

    At least it's easier to navigate than Woodsynth! Maybe, if there was an easier to use (and bug free) as-comprehensive Wavetable MPE synth maybe I wouldn't turn to SM2. But right now it remains in my top few and thus part of my Loopy go to template (Tera Pro, SM2, Tal-Uno-LX, Model D, Animoog, Megalit, Omega, Pianoteq, FRMS, Samplewiz 2, Quanta, DrumComputer and now Voices)

    Woodsynth also falls into the category for me of a synth I genuinely hate because of the UI / UX, despite its amazing possibilities. Tiny fonts, hurts my eyes to even try to use it, and just a sea of grey. Everything looks very samey, I literally can't stand the sight of it!

  • @Gavinski
    Everything looks very samey, I literally can't stand the sight of it!

    Wait, you are talking about iPad Logic stock plugins, aren’t you ? :trollface:

  • @dendy said:

    @Gavinski
    Everything looks very samey, I literally can't stand the sight of it!

    Wait, you are talking about iPad Logic stock plugins, aren’t you ? :trollface:

    Haha, those too, but at least their fonts are big enough to read! Yes though, epic UI fail from apple on those. I can't believe they let Sculpture etc out the gate looking like that

  • @Gavinski said:

    @dendy said:

    @Gavinski
    Everything looks very samey, I literally can't stand the sight of it!

    Wait, you are talking about iPad Logic stock plugins, aren’t you ? :trollface:

    Haha, those too, but at least their fonts are big enough to read! Yes though, epic UI fail from apple on those. I can't believe they let Sculpture etc out the gate looking like that

    Yup, in Sculpture it’s probably most obvious, pure disaster

  • The editor looks cool. Were going to say maybe pastel colour and darker lines but the grey does leave potential for updates or modes. Which a colour defines.

  • @dendy said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @dendy said:

    @Gavinski
    Everything looks very samey, I literally can't stand the sight of it!

    Wait, you are talking about iPad Logic stock plugins, aren’t you ? :trollface:

    Haha, those too, but at least their fonts are big enough to read! Yes though, epic UI fail from apple on those. I can't believe they let Sculpture etc out the gate looking like that

    Yup, in Sculpture it’s probably most obvious, pure disaster

    Yeah, Sculture is really hard to use on iPad - scrolling thru five sides with 137 controllers and 20 x/y grids… Hmmm…
    But, it’s sounds marvelous!

  • @ErrkaPetti said:

    @dendy said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @dendy said:

    @Gavinski
    Everything looks very samey, I literally can't stand the sight of it!

    Wait, you are talking about iPad Logic stock plugins, aren’t you ? :trollface:

    Haha, those too, but at least their fonts are big enough to read! Yes though, epic UI fail from apple on those. I can't believe they let Sculpture etc out the gate looking like that

    Yup, in Sculpture it’s probably most obvious, pure disaster

    Yeah, Sculture is really hard to use on iPad - scrolling thru five sides with 137 controllers and 20 x/y grids… Hmmm…
    But, it’s sounds marvelous!

    Yep it’s a shame because it’s insanely powerful and does sound amazing. It’s my favorite thing about Logic.

  • @Gavinski said:

    @Bruques said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @dendy said:
    will wait for final UI of plugin, SM2 is convoluted mess ...

    Yeah I really hope they tweak the interface a good bit. If not, I doubt it will be worth it considering Buttersynth exists. I love SM2 from a sound standpoint but I don’t do much beyond slight tweaks to presets because I just don’t enjoy making patches with that interface. Buttersynth is a breeze in comparison.

    If the interface seems better and there are more unique features I’ll probably buy. If not, I think I’ll be okay with SM1/2

    Fair enough, in my case this will be a no brainer instabuy. For MPE players, Buttersynth is not on the cards, we need to be able to set up parameter assignments of per-note CC74 y axis finger wobbling :smiley: so there's nothing as good as SM2 at what it does, as kind of NI Massive on iOS that is MPE (Edit; obviously more synthesis methods than massive, not a great like for like comparison). In standalone once I know where the main things all are then I do indeed sound design not always from scratch but at very least amend. Not to disagree, just that it's a perennial truism that UI doesn't need to be the best, just familiar (a la Donald Norman / Gibson / "affordances") so, in my own case, if I'm not familiar before, I go through the pain stage in order to reap the benefits of making it bend to my will. The bigger pain for me is the bugs, that half the matrix functionality and adjusting of that disappears in AUv3 - so I look forward to the dev rolling those fixes in to SM3.

    At least it's easier to navigate than Woodsynth! Maybe, if there was an easier to use (and bug free) as-comprehensive Wavetable MPE synth maybe I wouldn't turn to SM2. But right now it remains in my top few and thus part of my Loopy go to template (Tera Pro, SM2, Tal-Uno-LX, Model D, Animoog, Megalit, Omega, Pianoteq, FRMS, Samplewiz 2, Quanta, DrumComputer and now Voices)

    Woodsynth also falls into the category for me of a synth I genuinely hate because of the UI / UX, despite its amazing possibilities. Tiny fonts, hurts my eyes to even try to use it, and just a sea of grey. Everything looks very samey, I literally can't stand the sight of it!

    Ugh I bought Woodsynth after pining after it for multiple years and it’s super powerful but the UI sucks. I rarely open it.

  • @HotStrange said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @Bruques said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @dendy said:
    will wait for final UI of plugin, SM2 is convoluted mess ...

    Yeah I really hope they tweak the interface a good bit. If not, I doubt it will be worth it considering Buttersynth exists. I love SM2 from a sound standpoint but I don’t do much beyond slight tweaks to presets because I just don’t enjoy making patches with that interface. Buttersynth is a breeze in comparison.

    If the interface seems better and there are more unique features I’ll probably buy. If not, I think I’ll be okay with SM1/2

    Fair enough, in my case this will be a no brainer instabuy. For MPE players, Buttersynth is not on the cards, we need to be able to set up parameter assignments of per-note CC74 y axis finger wobbling :smiley: so there's nothing as good as SM2 at what it does, as kind of NI Massive on iOS that is MPE (Edit; obviously more synthesis methods than massive, not a great like for like comparison). In standalone once I know where the main things all are then I do indeed sound design not always from scratch but at very least amend. Not to disagree, just that it's a perennial truism that UI doesn't need to be the best, just familiar (a la Donald Norman / Gibson / "affordances") so, in my own case, if I'm not familiar before, I go through the pain stage in order to reap the benefits of making it bend to my will. The bigger pain for me is the bugs, that half the matrix functionality and adjusting of that disappears in AUv3 - so I look forward to the dev rolling those fixes in to SM3.

    At least it's easier to navigate than Woodsynth! Maybe, if there was an easier to use (and bug free) as-comprehensive Wavetable MPE synth maybe I wouldn't turn to SM2. But right now it remains in my top few and thus part of my Loopy go to template (Tera Pro, SM2, Tal-Uno-LX, Model D, Animoog, Megalit, Omega, Pianoteq, FRMS, Samplewiz 2, Quanta, DrumComputer and now Voices)

    Woodsynth also falls into the category for me of a synth I genuinely hate because of the UI / UX, despite its amazing possibilities. Tiny fonts, hurts my eyes to even try to use it, and just a sea of grey. Everything looks very samey, I literally can't stand the sight of it!

    Ugh I bought Woodsynth after pining after it for multiple years and it’s super powerful but the UI sucks. I rarely open it.

    Worst UI on iOS for me... Sorry! Like some of this devs apps a lot, Woodulator in particular is great, but not this one. Epic epic fail of a UI / UX. Even with the apps I like, I'm still not mad about the UI, but at least they won't give me a migraine just looking at them.

  • @Gavinski said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @Bruques said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @dendy said:
    will wait for final UI of plugin, SM2 is convoluted mess ...

    Yeah I really hope they tweak the interface a good bit. If not, I doubt it will be worth it considering Buttersynth exists. I love SM2 from a sound standpoint but I don’t do much beyond slight tweaks to presets because I just don’t enjoy making patches with that interface. Buttersynth is a breeze in comparison.

    If the interface seems better and there are more unique features I’ll probably buy. If not, I think I’ll be okay with SM1/2

    Fair enough, in my case this will be a no brainer instabuy. For MPE players, Buttersynth is not on the cards, we need to be able to set up parameter assignments of per-note CC74 y axis finger wobbling :smiley: so there's nothing as good as SM2 at what it does, as kind of NI Massive on iOS that is MPE (Edit; obviously more synthesis methods than massive, not a great like for like comparison). In standalone once I know where the main things all are then I do indeed sound design not always from scratch but at very least amend. Not to disagree, just that it's a perennial truism that UI doesn't need to be the best, just familiar (a la Donald Norman / Gibson / "affordances") so, in my own case, if I'm not familiar before, I go through the pain stage in order to reap the benefits of making it bend to my will. The bigger pain for me is the bugs, that half the matrix functionality and adjusting of that disappears in AUv3 - so I look forward to the dev rolling those fixes in to SM3.

    At least it's easier to navigate than Woodsynth! Maybe, if there was an easier to use (and bug free) as-comprehensive Wavetable MPE synth maybe I wouldn't turn to SM2. But right now it remains in my top few and thus part of my Loopy go to template (Tera Pro, SM2, Tal-Uno-LX, Model D, Animoog, Megalit, Omega, Pianoteq, FRMS, Samplewiz 2, Quanta, DrumComputer and now Voices)

    Woodsynth also falls into the category for me of a synth I genuinely hate because of the UI / UX, despite its amazing possibilities. Tiny fonts, hurts my eyes to even try to use it, and just a sea of grey. Everything looks very samey, I literally can't stand the sight of it!

    Ugh I bought Woodsynth after pining after it for multiple years and it’s super powerful but the UI sucks. I rarely open it.

    Worst UI on iOS for me... Sorry! Like some of this devs apps a lot, Woodulator in particular is great, but not this one. Epic epic fail of a UI / UX. Even with the apps I like, I'm still not mad about the UI, but at least they won't give me a migraine just looking at them.

    Agreed. I was hoping I’d love it as Woodstepper is a favorite app of mine but man. It needs a lot of work. I know it has kind of a cult following but it has not clicked for me at all.

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