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I'm pretty sure that's an intro/pre-order price?
They seem to be offering discounts on PC/Mac if you own SM2 - any word if that will apply on iPad? I think I saw presets would carry over which is great. And most importantly, the font looks significantly bigger!
How many desktop supersynths are ported to the iOS platform, and how many of those developers took the challenge and ported the synth into a system full of limitations and traps?
Let me see:
The KV331 team will stay a hero to me, not just because of the cool name, but because they care for our beloved platform and took the risk. 🫡
Agree 100% !
Although Synthmaster has a big fanbase on desktop, and, often is voted to be on the very top when different sites, newpapers, organisations vote for best software synth, although it seems that it also has a lot of people “hate” Synthmaster… Why?
Soundwise there’s nothing better on iOS, but, sure, it’s UI could be a little cleaner and organized, but, it’s such a great synth!
As a preset user predominantly, I am a fan. It's nice to have the full catalogue of sounds across from desktop on iOS. That said I cannot fathom the interface or program it though.
Had a play with SM3 beta on the desktop, managed to crash it when playing through the new presets so it's not quite there yet in terms of stability.
Due to the confusing upgrade past hijinx and my wallet getting bitten by it, sm3 is not on my radar at all. I bought pigments 5 and phaseplant2 instead. I like both of those much better so far than my entire couple of years of avoiding programming on synthmaster. I also think 80% of synthmaster patches are very same sounding…and really not in my wheelhouse anyways. It’s all my opinion, your mileage may be quite different. If you do 4 on the floor genres synthmaster is probably a great synth for you to check out; just be careful the way you update it however…always buy packs from the computer version as they only transfer from computer purchases to iOS…I found out the hard way.
So far on iOS, I am totally into sugarbytes synths, granular options, and Tera pro. I want to like ButterSynth but wow it destroys my m2 cpu…and really doesn’t sound great to me in use.
Phaseplant is slowly becoming my favorite synthesizer of all times… I’ve even been leaning towards parting with my iridium. I so wish phaseplant would come to iOS. I’d eliminate every synth I own on iOS if it did.
I dig the SM synths a lot. They sound great
But i agree with the interface.. its too much and too much thinking to really want to do sound design.
I hope this iOS version is more buttery
Why is the comparison a joke? I get just as good (better imho) sounds out of Tera. "Not on the level" doesn't say anything. Not being a buggy port or ugly does. I don't wanna use a mouse on ios.
But, in the long term, Tera Pro isn’t near Synthmaster 3.x…
If that was the case, KV331 Audio as a company would be bankrupt, especially when we with Macs with Apple Silicon CPU can run Tera Pro (iOS version) in Logic Pro (or other Mac DAWs)…
This reminds me of people buying cars from South Corea and driving around and think they driving an German high end car, like BMW Mercedes or Audi…
I don't get the logic here at all. A product being successful does not mean that less successful but similar products are not as good. There are many reasons why a particular product might have wider adoption than another. VHS became the more popular video format despite Betamax being superior.
Tera Pro is a new synth. Or course its existence would not have wiped out demand for Synthmaster. Also, Tera Pro is only available as an AUv3. Not all desktop hosts support that format. Ableton has only supported it for a year or two.
Add to that the fact that not everyone likes Tera's system of connecting modules.
But it hardly seems right to use the car analogy you have used here. Do you use Tera Pro yourself, are you familiar with the architecture of it, do you make your own patches with it? If so, maybe sharing why you prefer SM2 would be a better way to persuade readers of the validity of your preference, if not, perhaps admit that you might not be in a position to fairly compare the two?
Tldr - It would be wrong to assume that just because Synthmaster products are more popular, that they are better, but that's kind of the way your post here reads, to me. Sorry in advance if I'm misinterpreting anything.
Mr Gavinski, the only thing that messing up this is:
I have talking about Synthmaster 3 here, not SM2 that is more “near” the powerful Tera Pro…
Synthmaster 3 is another beast with great potential to be the synth ever…
I read that in Synthmaster 3, a pure sine wave will be more 'sineyer'. With better more expensive and smoother curves, and will contain no cosines at all. Unlike Tera Pro, which uses cheap 'sub' standard sine waves, full of sharp corners, and edges.
So if we measure and compare the audio quality coming from both apps, using a professional-gold-standard 'audio quality analyser'. Its pretty clear, which sine-waves are more sine-wavy. This stuff is totally objective, after all.
I think then the only way to find out is to have you test Tera Pro and SM3. Seems like you've already done the latter, so how about the former? Do you own Tera Pro yet?
The reason I prefer Tera Pro is, I don't think SM3 will be on iPhone which is my main iOS music production device of choice (given my current iPad Mini 6 has limited space).
It’s definitely a joke…Tera Pro is stable and buying the IAPs work.
Obviously referring the SynthMaster One , as since I’m an iPhone only user at this moment, I won’t be able to try 2 or 3 to even begin to compare
Yes, I have own Tera Pro since release, but, as many of us suffer from, to many apps to play with syndrome!
Tera Pro is really great, sounds good, and, very smart built, but, I found early that Synthmaster in every iteration is my thing - there’s something with the sound quality that got me fell in love with Synthmaster family.
I must point out that Virsyns all apps (own them all) is incredible nice and worth every penny spent, especially Xinematic and Harry gift recently…
I think this is what was stifling my creativity personally speaking. I've stopped buying up tons of apps for that reason alone.
Actually that makes me happy that you like the Synthmaster family of synths. We all have our preferences and likes and such. My preference is "it needs to work on my iPhone", at least for the time being until I can get my hands on a proper iPad Mini with at least 512gb space for my romplers and their IAPs to fit on comfortably.
I agree 100%. XinematiX is an incredible rompler! Never dreamed Harry would be so generous to basically reduce the price to a mere fraction of what it was! The price was way too prohibiting for me personally despite me having mild GAS for it. But when he reduced the base price to a buck and the whole lot of IAPs together down to 20 quid, I was all in.
I love Tera Pro, but I'm still learning to grok the interface and become fluid in using it. It'll take me some time when I have time to spare, but I will master that synth someday (a little wordplay there
).
synthmaster doesn’t suck by any stretch, it just doesn’t win either…but I have a great deal of synths to go to.
Exactly same for me too mate. Then again I'm more into my romplers than synths. And the synths I do use are either the ones in FLSM or the Bleass ones or Obsidian when I crack open NS2.
On iOS it’s Tera Pro, aparillo, factory, or Nave for me…I still use Zeeon and Sunrizer a lot as well.
On Mac OS it’s phase plant, pigments, alchemy, and Icarus
On hardware it’s Iridium, minifreak, osmose, and Typhon
The other three are sadly iPad-only, which I'm not currently using for production, although I do have Nave and Aparillo. One of these days I will return to iPad, hopefully, lol.
Great choices. I've always wanted Phase Plant.
I've always wanted to fiddle with a Minifreak, but for my hardware situation it's definitely OP-1 Field all the way for me. I friggin love it.
Nave is about 1/3 of the Waldorf iridium engine…it’s really good…just isn’t auv3
I can’t say enough about phase plant…let’s say this… modular made easy…make almost anything you can imagine…wavetable modulator (whaaaat, yup)
Minifreak is about 500.00 if ya get a deal…it’s worth every penny, it would only add to your set up. And you get the plug in free for your daw…they sound a bit different though as the hardware has analog converters and filters
If I was only allowed 1 synth…it would be between phase plant and alchemy…those 2 are my MUST have synths
Oh, lack of AUv3 doesn't stop me. If it's IAA, I can still sample it into Koala. If it's not, I can screen record and sample it into Koala, lol. Not so tough to do for me.
Exactly why I gassed for Phase Plant. Just that, I have a PC to transfer tapes to and from my OP-1 Field, and I tried FL Studio. I froze up. I honestly don't think I can thrive in a full DAW environment like I once was able to do in the past. 😅
Nice! So with that said, once I pay off the OP-1 Field (I have to through December), I can get on the Minifreak deal.
Good choises!
Just curious, do you run Alchemy as old school Camel Audio, or thru Logic Pro?
Back in the days “we” paid up to 1000 dollars for full Alchemy (if I remember right)…
I have spared an old iPad Air v2 from 2014 just to have the ability to run some old 32 bits apps (iOS 10.32), and one of them is Alchemy…
I really hope Apple could bring us the whole shebangs of Alchemy to Logic Pro on iPad this spring - lets hope…
One of the most overrated synths
Pretty unclear what synth you mean now?
Synthmaster or recently mentioned Alchemy?
Both are super great, but if you think they sucks I would not kill you (at least not this week) 😂😂
Synthmaster of course. Clunky, not agile, sound meh....
You can of course complain on Synthmaster families UI and other things, but, if your opinion on sound quality out of Synthmaster is “meh” then you must suffer of hearing disability - just sayin’…
I agree the UI is a little clunky for me personally, but can you list other synths on iOS which sound better in your opinion? I tried Synthmaster 1 ages ago and was blown away by the sound. Hated the UI though which is why I never got along with it. It was a bit too much for me back then, back when I preferred simpler synths (Gadget was my main music creation environment on iOS before NS2 initially released).
Okay so I still prefer simpler synths, but Tera Pro is rather fun to use when I'm looking for something more complex than Bleass' synths.
That said. I personally have no idea what Synthmaster 3's UI is like as I've never tested the beta (and don't plan to). Perhaps many improvements have been made since Synthmaster 1 and 2. 🤷♂️
So you’re saying SynthMaster is more reliable?