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KQ Voice Plugins by Kira Q Tech (Released)

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  • HotStrangeHotStrange

    @hightunnels said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @eross said:
    so in the video it shows routing from Logic into Aum.
    but I want to send my audio from AUM and record the audio into logic. how do i set this up. do I need to setup an audio track and set loopback 1 as a plug-in effect on that track, or
    send it into a midi instrument track?
    what is the routing?

    I haven’t tried yet but check out Gavs videos! I think he explains that in his new upload.

    • In AUM load loopback IN on an fx node beneath the audio you want to send
    • In logic set up a midi track with loopback OUT as the instrument. You should be hearing the audio from AUM
    • Send the audio out from that midi track to a bus then set up an audio track with that bus as your input. Record your audio!

    Remember AUM and logic can be synced with Ableton link

    Thanks! Screenshoting this for later 🤝

  • hightunnelshightunnels

    @HotStrange said:

    @hightunnels said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @eross said:
    so in the video it shows routing from Logic into Aum.
    but I want to send my audio from AUM and record the audio into logic. how do i set this up. do I need to setup an audio track and set loopback 1 as a plug-in effect on that track, or
    send it into a midi instrument track?
    what is the routing?

    I haven’t tried yet but check out Gavs videos! I think he explains that in his new upload.

    • In AUM load loopback IN on an fx node beneath the audio you want to send
    • In logic set up a midi track with loopback OUT as the instrument. You should be hearing the audio from AUM
    • Send the audio out from that midi track to a bus then set up an audio track with that bus as your input. Record your audio!

    Remember AUM and logic can be synced with Ableton link

    Thanks! Screenshoting this for later 🤝

    Sure! Feels like a bit of a game changier moment being able to send IAA into logic - seriously thinking about that hip hop drummer app as a result

  • wimwim
    edited June 2023

    @sigma79 said:
    What about aum to Drambo.

    That's easy.

    • Loopback 1 In goes in as an FX on a channel in AUM.
    • Loopback 1 Out goes in a track in Drambo.
    • Repeat with Loopback 2, 3, 4 as needed.
  • erosseross

    @HotStrange said:

    @hightunnels said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @eross said:
    so in the video it shows routing from Logic into Aum.
    but I want to send my audio from AUM and record the audio into logic. how do i set this up. do I need to setup an audio track and set loopback 1 as a plug-in effect on that track, or
    send it into a midi instrument track?
    what is the routing?

    I haven’t tried yet but check out Gavs videos! I think he explains that in his new upload.

    • In AUM load loopback IN on an fx node beneath the audio you want to send
    • In logic set up a midi track with loopback OUT as the instrument. You should be hearing the audio from AUM
    • Send the audio out from that midi track to a bus then set up an audio track with that bus as your input. Record your audio!

    Remember AUM and logic can be synced with Ableton link

    Thanks! Screenshoting this for later 🤝

    @HotStrange said:

    @hightunnels said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @eross said:
    so in the video it shows routing from Logic into Aum.
    but I want to send my audio from AUM and record the audio into logic. how do i set this up. do I need to setup an audio track and set loopback 1 as a plug-in effect on that track, or
    send it into a midi instrument track?
    what is the routing?

    I haven’t tried yet but check out Gavs videos! I think he explains that in his new upload.

    • In AUM load loopback IN on an fx node beneath the audio you want to send
    • In logic set up a midi track with loopback OUT as the instrument. You should be hearing the audio from AUM
    • Send the audio out from that midi track to a bus then set up an audio track with that bus as your input. Record your audio!

    Remember AUM and logic can be synced with Ableton link

    Thanks! Screenshoting this for later 🤝

    @HotStrange said:

    @hightunnels said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @eross said:
    so in the video it shows routing from Logic into Aum.
    but I want to send my audio from AUM and record the audio into logic. how do i set this up. do I need to setup an audio track and set loopback 1 as a plug-in effect on that track, or
    send it into a midi instrument track?
    what is the routing?

    I haven’t tried yet but check out Gavs videos! I think he explains that in his new upload.

    • In AUM load loopback IN on an fx node beneath the audio you want to send
    • In logic set up a midi track with loopback OUT as the instrument. You should be hearing the audio from AUM
    • Send the audio out from that midi track to a bus then set up an audio track with that bus as your input. Record your audio!

    Remember AUM and logic can be synced with Ableton link

    Thanks! Screenshoting this for later 🤝

    awesome!!! gonna try this now. thanks

  • HotStrangeHotStrange
    edited June 2023

    @hightunnels said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @hightunnels said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @eross said:
    so in the video it shows routing from Logic into Aum.
    but I want to send my audio from AUM and record the audio into logic. how do i set this up. do I need to setup an audio track and set loopback 1 as a plug-in effect on that track, or
    send it into a midi instrument track?
    what is the routing?

    I haven’t tried yet but check out Gavs videos! I think he explains that in his new upload.

    • In AUM load loopback IN on an fx node beneath the audio you want to send
    • In logic set up a midi track with loopback OUT as the instrument. You should be hearing the audio from AUM
    • Send the audio out from that midi track to a bus then set up an audio track with that bus as your input. Record your audio!

    Remember AUM and logic can be synced with Ableton link

    Thanks! Screenshoting this for later 🤝

    Sure! Feels like a bit of a game changier moment being able to send IAA into logic - seriously thinking about that hip hop drummer app as a result

    Oh yeah. And so many others. Borderlands, Samplr, DM1/2, Patterning, Synth One, etc. Opens up a lot of cool doors. Definitely feels game changier.

  • MisplacedDevelopmentMisplacedDevelopment

    @RyoutaKira I have managed to route audio with the app and this is working as expected. Do you have an example setup of routing MIDI? I cannot see a way of adding either of the "Loopback In/Out" plugins as a MIDI effect and so I'm not sure how I would route MIDI from one place to another.

    Has anyone else got the MIDI routing part working in a host?

  • mistercharliemistercharlie

    I’ve been using Logic to record and arrange, but Drambo is so much better for creating and sequencing. Now I can track Drambo into Logic, which is wild.

  • RyoutaKiraRyoutaKira

    @MisplacedDevelopment said:
    @RyoutaKira I have managed to route audio with the app and this is working as expected. Do you have an example setup of routing MIDI? I cannot see a way of adding either of the "Loopback In/Out" plugins as a MIDI effect and so I'm not sure how I would route MIDI from one place to another.

    Has anyone else got the MIDI routing part working in a host?

    As I published a video, AUM has a MIDI routing function but I don't know if Logic has the function.

  • JumpercollinsJumpercollins

    @RyoutaKira said:

    @MisplacedDevelopment said:
    @RyoutaKira I have managed to route audio with the app and this is working as expected. Do you have an example setup of routing MIDI? I cannot see a way of adding either of the "Loopback In/Out" plugins as a MIDI effect and so I'm not sure how I would route MIDI from one place to another.

    Has anyone else got the MIDI routing part working in a host?

    As I published a video, AUM has a MIDI routing function but I don't know if Logic has the function.

    @RyoutaKira
    Logic Pro does have a midi FX slot so would be quite cool if Loopback MIDI was to appear in that then we could use non midi fx app routing into Logic Pro.

  • MisplacedDevelopmentMisplacedDevelopment

    @RyoutaKira said:

    @MisplacedDevelopment said:
    @RyoutaKira I have managed to route audio with the app and this is working as expected. Do you have an example setup of routing MIDI? I cannot see a way of adding either of the "Loopback In/Out" plugins as a MIDI effect and so I'm not sure how I would route MIDI from one place to another.

    Has anyone else got the MIDI routing part working in a host?

    As I published a video, AUM has a MIDI routing function but I don't know if Logic has the function.

    Thanks for responding, @RyoutaKira. I see now how this works. Here is an example AUM setup where Atom 2 is sending MIDI to Loopback 1 Out which is picked up by Loopback 1 In (added as an audio effect) and then routed to KQ Dixie:

    You can of course just route Atom 2 directly to KQ Dixie in AUM but hopefully these screenshots make it easier to understand the data flow if you are going to use multiple hosts. I would need to test the theory, but I would guess that any host/DAW which lets you use an audio effect which generates MIDI such as MIDI Guitar 2 will also have the ability to let you use "Loopback In" to move MIDI around.

    As @Jumpercollins said, this would be easier to use as a MIDI FX plugin but I do understand that this is not the main feature of the product.

  • GavinskiGavinski

    @RyoutaKira said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @RyoutaKira said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @ninobeatz said:
    Gav always thinking 👏🏾👏🏾

    Can u easily sync logic and aum? Have never used 2 daws simultaneously

    Yes you can.

    Cool! And so you could use this new app of yours to send synced audio from logic to aum, for example?

    Yes with latency. however, Logic corrects it.

    Hi Ryouta (or anyone else) - could you please explain the best way to deal with latency issues when sending from AUM to Logic? I have tried playing with Latency compensation in Logic etc, but so far have not managed successfully to get Lumbeats Hip Hop Drummer to play in Logic, sent from AUM, without very noticeable latency. Eg. If I run a session with Chordjam playing a piano alongside Hip Hop Drummer, it sounds great, totally in time. If I try the same in Logic, the piano and drums are clearly not properly synced. I am not used to dealing with latency issues with Ableton link so this is not something I know much about.

  • MisplacedDevelopmentMisplacedDevelopment
    edited June 2023

    To answer my earlier question - yes, you can send MIDI between tracks in a DAW if it supports Audio->MIDI plugins such as MIDI Guitar 2. Here is an example setup in MultiTrackStudio. The MIDI lives on Track 2 and is sent to the audio track Track 3. This track hosts an instance of "Loopback In", which sends the MIDI to Track 1.

    The MIDI comes through correctly, though it is about a beat or so late edit:early. This may be more to do with the DAW than the app though.

  • RyoutaKiraRyoutaKira

    It produces a noticeable delay between Loopback in and out. But Logic Pro processes the latency and sends audio/MIDI earlier.
    So the latency disappears.
    Some other DAW doesn't do like this, so you feel latency.

  • GavinskiGavinski

    So you mean that logic stops latency problems for audio going out of Logic but not coming in? Is there anything we need to change in the settings of Logic? If so, what exactly? Thnx!

    @RyoutaKira said:
    It produces a noticeable delay between Loopback in and out. But Logic Pro processes the latency and sends audio/MIDI earlier.
    So the latency disappears.
    Some other DAW doesn't do like this, so you feel latency.

  • GavinskiGavinski

    OK so here is a little unlisted video. It seems the problem is with trying to use lumbeats hip hop drummer. You can hear initially that when I am using Rozeta noir, the timing in aum and logic is in sync. Once I bring in lumbeats hip hop drummer (which is connected to both via link) it's galloping horses central, appalling latency. Not sure where the issue lies of how to correct it. Any thoughts?

  • JumpercollinsJumpercollins

    @RyoutaKira Is it me or does Logic Pro have a problem showing all AU Loopback “In instances” that are available. Don’t seem to have the problem in AUM. Screenshot below taking in stage manager view shows AUM showing all 4 but Logic Pro just showing number 4 Loopback ? I seem to lost the other 3 with no other hosts or apps open. If routing IAA into Logic Pro previously then cancelling it effect what’s showing even if I reopened the IAA app and re closed to stop any midi ghost connections?


  • GavinskiGavinski

    About the problems I mentioned using sonobus, I got this back from the dev:

    Thanks, its working OK for me (SonoBus inserted on the main Stereo Out track), but I had to start the Logic transport once before it activated the plugin for some reason. After that it seemed to be "alive", even when the transport wasn't on. However, on my 2020 iPad Pro the audio sent from the iPad to the remote is glitchy unless I make Logic Pro use 512 sample buffer size. This isn't an issue with the standalone or with AUM as host.

  • sigma79sigma79

    Dont need the output thing with audio4c but could be handy.

    The mic filter is worth the money.

  • tahichetahiche

    @HotStrange said:

    @sigma79 said:
    How is cpu and quality of app.

    Vs Brusfri ( cpu and quality )

    Vs Tb pitch shifter, blesss voice. Drambo or any pitch shifter app ( cpu and quality )

    and midi for pitch shift.

    Haven’t paid attention to CPU yet but it’s mostly bare bones. The Loopback is definitely the big selling point here. The pitch shifter and talkbox are great, don’t get me wrong, but not nearly as fully featured as the Bleass or TB ones, as you can kinda see from the pictures. I don’t have Brusfri so can’t comment there but the one that comes in the KQ app does its job. Highly worth $8 imo.

    I wonder if the DEV saw this coming. The Loopback plugin seemed totally out of place in a “Voice plugins” pack, almost like an unrelated “extra”, yet it’s getting all the attention, and rightly so. IMO it would have been a better move to release it on its own. Not just financially, but also because I can see how people are gonna be confused when looking for the Loopback thingy on the App Store.

  • RyoutaKiraRyoutaKira
    edited June 2023

    I didn't know that I can record the sound on Logic Pro.
    Thank you, Jade.

  • RyoutaKiraRyoutaKira

    @tahiche said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @sigma79 said:
    How is cpu and quality of app.

    Vs Brusfri ( cpu and quality )

    Vs Tb pitch shifter, blesss voice. Drambo or any pitch shifter app ( cpu and quality )

    and midi for pitch shift.

    Haven’t paid attention to CPU yet but it’s mostly bare bones. The Loopback is definitely the big selling point here. The pitch shifter and talkbox are great, don’t get me wrong, but not nearly as fully featured as the Bleass or TB ones, as you can kinda see from the pictures. I don’t have Brusfri so can’t comment there but the one that comes in the KQ app does its job. Highly worth $8 imo.

    I wonder if the DEV saw this coming. The Loopback plugin seemed totally out of place in a “Voice plugins” pack, almost like an unrelated “extra”, yet it’s getting all the attention, and rightly so. IMO it would have been a better move to release it on its own. Not just financially, but also because I can see how people are gonna be confused when looking for the Loopback thingy on the App Store.

    I released this as a set of plugins so that it would not be considered a low-functionality app by Apple. I thought that including only one plugin would be more likely to be rejected in the review.

  • GavinskiGavinski

    @RyoutaKira said:
    I didn't know that I can record the sound on Logic Pro.
    Thank you, Jade.

    Any chance of a quick summary on how to do it? Cheers!

  • RyoutaKiraRyoutaKira

    @Gavinski said:

    @RyoutaKira said:
    I didn't know that I can record the sound on Logic Pro.
    Thank you, Jade.

    Any chance of a quick summary on how to do it? Cheers!

    You can do by using an Aux bus.
    1. Create a new audio track.
    2. Create an Aux bus for the target track and increase the send volume.
    3. Set the input of the audio track to the aux bus.
    4. Record the audio track.

  • GavinskiGavinski

    Thanks @RyoutaKira!

  • GavinskiGavinski

    So has anyone managed to get a lumbeats app to go via aum to logic without crazy bad latency?

  • ninobeatzninobeatz

    @Gavinski said:
    So has anyone managed to get a lumbeats app to go via aum to logic without crazy bad latency?

    Maybe, it’s something you don’t have to deal with anymore 😉

  • ninobeatzninobeatz
    edited June 2023

    Dang!!

  • ninobeatzninobeatz

    Soon came fast

  • GavinskiGavinski

    Latency issues completely fixed!!! Lumbeat Hip Hop Drummer running with ZERO latency, streaming from AUM to Logic Pro:

    https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/56388/vid-giveaway-how-to-use-stream-lumbeat-hip-hop-drummer-to-logic-pro-with-zero-latency#latest

    Nice work @RyoutaKira

  • qryssqryss

    @Gavinski said:
    Latency issues completely fixed!!! Lumbeat Hip Hop Drummer running with ZERO latency, streaming from AUM to Logic Pro:

    https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/56388/vid-giveaway-how-to-use-stream-lumbeat-hip-hop-drummer-to-logic-pro-with-zero-latency#latest

    Nice work @RyoutaKira

    Does this also work to get IAA instruments’ MIDI and audio into NS2?

    I presume so but it would be nice if someone can confirm.

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