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Korg Gadget Update 1.0.3 is out!

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  • @1P18 Good 'review' and I agree with you largely as regards 'sum of parts' etc. AND thanks for the iTunes tip, glad you can do it that way, BUT it's chickenshit all the same. And I'm grateful that I can sit down at my desk and make changes, but every time I'm not sitting at my desk and I want to do some house-keeping right there in my poorly-organized-as-it-is-workflow I'm going to get that taste in my mouth....

  • @1P18 said:

    I going to go ahead and give my full on recommendation to the two new gadgets. At face value they seem a bit basic, and at $9.99 a bit pricey, but when taken in context of Gadget I think they make for a nice addition. By "in the context of Gadget" I mean the effects and automation in particular.

    At first Bilbao seemed a bit too simplistic, but then I stated tinkering with automation and started to see the possibilities. Load a long sample for example and you can automate the start point, length, decay, etc. for some interesting results. You can access the same list of user samples as you can with Abu Dhabi too, so loading user created loops doesn't require a second audio paste.

    As for Abu Dhabi, there's enough there to manipulate the slices and get some good stuff going. The XY pad for the effects is a nice change of pace too.

    Overall these new Gadgets probably aren't going to wow you, and I would say they are good, not great. To me though none of the individual gadgets really jump out, and really with this app it's more about the sum of it's parts.

    Yeah, I'm starting to come around to your opinion. I bought Bilbao this morning, and it comes with a fair amount of new percussive samples, plus the obvious value of allowing you to import your own. Actually, had I known this was actually coming, having a full stand-alone sampler app like iMPC Pro seems kind of redundant/wasteful to me now. Workflow within Gadget is far from perfect, but I just seem to get things done quickly in there. I love the piano roll editor, and having that same "language" now applied to an import sampler is pretty huge.

    But is it really true that you can't delete user samples? Ugh, that would be pretty irritating. The app is starting to get bloated, and that's only going to get worse if I start firing drum kits into Bilbao and can't remove them.

  • @StormJH1

    You can delete/rename when connected to iTunes. See my post a few posts ago.

    And yes as JohnnyGoodyear noted, it's kind of chickenshit, or donkeydick take your pick. I look at it like this, set aside a time when you want to load, delete, rename, reorder, ALL your samples at once, and just do it and get it out of the way. Once you've done that you can access them with either gadget. Mildly annoying, hopefully they update with in app sample organization.

  • edited September 2014

    This is a very good idea and I should have thought of this!! I guess in this case I'd really have to watch how much RAM I am using if I was to do this.

    So basically - compose a track in London or whatever - then make a few more instances of it for kick and snare..maybe group some similar frequency hats and cymbals and then copy/split the MIDI.

    Only issue will be RAM usage. But after I automate and get everything how I want it, I guess I can freeze the other tracks eh?

    Main thing to keep in mind - Ableton Live Lite maxes at 16 tracks.

    Ill probably use it as my export tool - make some stereo files like kicks/snares mono..and then dump into Logic to mix.

    I am not home yet to try all this, but am I on track here?

    @DaveMagoo said:

    @MalphRacchio said:

    @1P18 said:

    @disgo

    Abu Dhabi is not a looper, it's a loop slicer, with the slices assigned to each pad. It still operates by MIDI though, with MIDI triggering the slice. You can move the markers, so you could theoretically put a long sample in one slice. I haven't tested this though.

    @disgo and @MalphRacchio

    It exports the audio files as tracks (EDIT: in other words, if you have 5 gadgets in a project you'll end up with 5 audio track files), with the .als file containing the data that splits them up into clips for Live, so I'm pretty sure you could just use the track audio files as stems in other DAWs. I haven't tested this either.

    Ok thanks. Seems if you export to live you cant mix your drum sounds individually. Kind of a bummer if that is the case. They also do the same thing for dropbox exports.

    Anyone know if this is true and why it would be?

    Just have one drum sample per gadget ie: a separate gadget for each drum element and this should give you a work around ;)

  • I HATE not being able to delete samples (and freeze tracks, mixdowns) within the app.
    Retronyms made the same mistake with the first version of iMPC pro.
    Developers know iPads have limited space. No one needs this bloating.
    I'm not planning to connect to iTunes just for deleting samples (not to mention renaming). iPad is 'PC free' since iOS 5...

  • edited September 2014

    @MalphRacchio Live Lite actually has an 8 track limit (it's Live Intro that can do 16). But again, you don't need to export to live if your intent is to go to Logic... Just export normally as individual tracks and import directly into your DAW.

  • @busker said:

    @MalphRacchio Live Lite actually has an 8 track limit (it's Live Intro that can do 16). But again, you don't need to export to live if your intent is to go to Logic... Just export normally as individual tracks and import directly into your DAW.

    Good point.

    So basically this Live hookup is a way to share project files it seems like.

  • edited September 2014

    Not being able to delete is a big oops. How such an oops might happen: when developing/testing, you wipe out your app at each new build. No time to build up enough gunk to remind you of how important sample delete is!

    Of course, just speculating but I could see it happening that way.

  • Some really nice additions and improvements here, like LIVE export is huge, but also a big load of stuff still missing that should have been part of v1.0, such as native delete and rename functions etc. Furthermore, the price of the IAPs is double what it should be (IMO), and while I do see the argument of taking them in the context of having the global Gadget functions multiply their abilities and usefulness, those functionalities are things we already paid for when we bought the main app, so I do not see it as fair to assume we should pay for them again for each new gadget. If they keep new gadget pricing at $9.99 each, I am far more likely to sit on the fence or not buy them at all, whereas at $4.99 I wouldn't even think about it and would buy them instantly.

  • This is awesome. Landscape at last. Thanks KORG

  • Agree with thread reading sample management. Has definitely put the brakes (breaks?!) on getting either of the new sample based instruments.

    Recommend that we all make our thoughts known! (hey, it worked for landscape mode, right?)

  • @1P18 - Point taken, but I meant delete without hooking up to a computer. Yes, I have iFunBox and use it from time to time to import samples and content into other apps, but expecting the average user to do that is unrealistic. It's an oversight and they should fix it.

    @DarbyA - Yes, landscape is a HUGE help, especially with the piano roll. People will come across this app a year from now and never realize that there was a period of months where it didn't have landscape, and everyone begged for it!

    @R_2 - The app has gotten a little bloated. Yeah, if you paid $30 or $40 for it, you're likely to make room, but I think downloading Bilbao (and its samples) made it even larger than the new base size of 313MB.

  • That's the really valuable thing about iFile and the number 1 reason I keep my IOS devices jailbroken. File management and Dropbox integration are a breeze regardless of the app. or software vendor. Just the other day I was prepping an old Roland sampler for shipping following a sale. The samples were stored on a 100Mb Zip disk and I wanted to keep them so i copied them up to a Dropbox folder and within minutes I was able to use iFile to bring them into iMPC Pro and create kits by dragging and dropping the wave files:)

  • @OmnilimbO said:

    Some really nice additions and improvements here, like LIVE export is huge, but also a big load of stuff still missing that should have been part of v1.0, such as native delete and rename functions etc. Furthermore, the price of the IAPs is double what it should be (IMO), and while I do see the argument of taking them in the context of having the global Gadget functions multiply their abilities and usefulness, those functionalities are things we already paid for when we bought the main app, so I do not see it as fair to assume we should pay for them again for each new gadget. If they keep new gadget pricing at $9.99 each, I am far more likely to sit on the fence or not buy them at all, whereas at $4.99 I wouldn't even think about it and would buy them instantly.

    I totally agree. I'm really happy about the Landscape option and the Live export functionality (Live is my primary DAW), but after paying $30+ for an app, we should be getting new gadgets for free or a greatly discounted price. $10 per gadget is ridiculous. Unless the next update is soon and spectacular, I may be ignoring Gadget entirely.

  • @hwangman said:

    I totally agree. I'm really happy about the Landscape option and the Live export functionality (Live is my primary DAW), but after paying $30+ for an app, we should be getting new gadgets for free or a greatly discounted price. $10 per gadget is ridiculous. Unless the next update is soon and spectacular, I may be ignoring Gadget entirely.

    Here's what I would say about that - if you don't like the new Gadgets, or don't think that either of them is worth the $10 price to you, don't buy them. You still can enjoy the Gadget app you paid for, plus some of the free new improvements (scudding landscape and MIDI changes).

    Also, I would be stunned if we didn't see an IAP sale at some point for these things. Korg just knocked $10 off every one of their apps, and that's happened several times this year - these IAP's will be offered for $4.99 to $7.99 at some point by the end of the year (my opinion).

  • @hwangman said:

    I totally agree. I'm really happy about the Landscape option and the Live export functionality (Live is my primary DAW), but after paying $30+ for an app, we should be getting new gadgets for free or a greatly discounted price. $10 per gadget is ridiculous. Unless the next update is soon and spectacular, I may be ignoring Gadget entirely.

    I also think the IAP should cost less, but, like @StormJH1, I assume they'll go on sale at some point. It's odd to me that they aren't on sale since everything else by Korg is, including Gadget.

    In any case, export to Live is SO unexpected and exciting that it overshadows the shortcomings. For me it's the missing link between iPad and home/laptop music gear. I can finally create something on the iPad that I can then use in Live without a lot of hassle. Wonderful!

  • Yep, I don't have a huge problem with the IAP.

    Now here is my question for the folks that have bought them - is there anything you get out of these apps that I could not get out of importing my track into logic and adding samples there? For example are the sounds that come with them good..is their functionality that is unique?

    I will probably buy them when the price drops to $4.99

  • I just looked at my Ableton Live upgrade pricing paths...400-500+ bucks. How dare they!! SAD FACE

  • @syrupcore said:

    S760?

    SP-808:)

  • @StormJH1 said:

    @hwangman said:

    I totally agree. I'm really happy about the Landscape option and the Live export functionality (Live is my primary DAW), but after paying $30+ for an app, we should be getting new gadgets for free or a greatly discounted price. $10 per gadget is ridiculous. Unless the next update is soon and spectacular, I may be ignoring Gadget entirely.

    Here's what I would say about that - if you don't like the new Gadgets, or don't think that either of them is worth the $10 price to you, don't buy them. You still can enjoy the Gadget app you paid for, plus some of the free new improvements (scudding landscape and MIDI changes).

    Also, I would be stunned if we didn't see an IAP sale at some point for these things. Korg just knocked $10 off every one of their apps, and that's happened several times this year - these IAP's will be offered for $4.99 to $7.99 at some point by the end of the year (my opinion).

    Well that's the thing, I have no idea if the gadgets are worth it. They sound cool (and I expect I'll see a video from Doug sometime soon), but I don't know if they'd be useful for me, and asking $10 for one add-on to an already-expensive app is pretty lame in my opinion.

    And fair point about the IAP sales. As others said though, it's strange that Korg would put basically everything else on sale but the IAPs.

  • I bought both as a test of the concept. If they can up their game and push out more timely and useful updates then I will continue to buy into the IAPs as Gadget is my favorite muse. If another 6 months roll by like before then I will consider it a failed experiment and i'm sure a bigger and better option will have presented itself from another vendor (COUGH AURIA w/ MIDI COUGH) by then.

    I do REALLY appreciate the update and the new gadgets are a fun addition.

  • @thelip said:

    I bought both as a test of the concept. If they can up their game and push out more timely and useful updates then I will continue to buy into the IAPs as Gadget is my favorite muse. If another 6 months roll by like before then I will consider it a failed experiment and i'm sure a bigger and better option will have presented itself from another vendor (COUGH AURIA w/ MIDI COUGH) by then.

    I do REALLY appreciate the update and the new gadgets are a fun addition.

    Multitracking Gadget into Auria (think output per gadget track into separate Auria tracks) would also be so tasty what with those FabFilter effects... YUM... A girl can dream!

  • Yes. The stuff that many of our dreams are made of right there...

  • More than happy to wait for the sale

  • @papertiger said:

    @thelip said:

    I bought both as a test of the concept. If they can up their game and push out more timely and useful updates then I will continue to buy into the IAPs as Gadget is my favorite muse. If another 6 months roll by like before then I will consider it a failed experiment and i'm sure a bigger and better option will have presented itself from another vendor (COUGH AURIA w/ MIDI COUGH) by then.

    I do REALLY appreciate the update and the new gadgets are a fun addition.

    Multitracking Gadget into Auria (think output per gadget track into separate Auria tracks) would also be so tasty what with those FabFilter effects... YUM... A girl can dream!

    Oh yeah! That would be amazing. I've been begging for more apps to support that, but it doesn't seem to be a priority. If Auria, Loopy, Audulus, Drumjam, and a few others can, then Gadget should. My world would then explode with awesome.

  • I tried the Ableton for the first time today, I did the 'A Tour of Live' thing, I tried some effects and I am amazed that I can do this now with my Gadget projects - that is a big deal indeed. Bought the Abu Dhabi and Bilbao, I like them, Bilbao's got some dope samples in it.

  • Gotta feel the spirit and the soul of the groove brother

  • The IAPS are expensive and i cant find any info about the new gadgets, i will wait for a sale too

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