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Dagger Synth by BeepStreet (Released)

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  • NeuMNeuM

    Incidentally, I am getting some of the most remarkable sounds I think I've ever gotten out of a synth with Dagger, @giku_beepstreet. This synthesis model is incredible.

  • NeuMNeuM

    @Samu said:

    @NeuM said:

    Also, I don't know what is the purpose of the 3-position switch called "Track" in the middle/bottom of the UI. Why are there 3 positions?

    0%, 50%, 100% tracking...

    Ah, thanks. Some labels are needed on the UI layout to explain that.

  • SlushSlush

    Would be cool if we had a large user patch thing going on like we did with Hilda.

  • NeuMNeuM

    @giku_beepstreet If it's at all possible, I'd like to be able to export a single patch instead of all patches in a folder. Maybe just have that as a multiple choice when tapping on the export patch button? "Export Selected Patch" or "Export Folder"?

  • gregsmithgregsmith

    @gregsmith said:

    @giku_beepstreet said:

    @gregsmith said:
    Like when I saw combustor, I wanna see a Drambo reskin with these knobs 🤤

    It doesn’t work for more complex interfaces, large number of smaller knobs. It gets overwhelming

    Ah ok, fair enough 👍

    I know, I know, you said no. But I couldn’t resist doing a mockup…

    This is rough obviously…

  • BirdpieBirdpie
    edited August 2023

    what a big fat filter. incredible

  • BirdpieBirdpie

    fx version pleasse 🤤

  • NeuMNeuM
    edited August 2023

    Made a quick Dagger experiment with some patches I made today. This is one fun synth that makes creating interesting sounds fast and easy. Everything except for the drums are Dagger and I added a few effects on some of the tracks.

  • michael_mmichael_m

    @NeuM said:
    Made a quick Dagger experiment with some patches I made today. This is one fun synth that makes creating interesting sounds fast and easy. Everything except for the drums are Dagger and I added a few effects on some of the tracks.

    You should continue work on it and expand it - sounds pretty good, but maybe on the short side.

  • NeuMNeuM
    edited August 2023

    @michael_m said:

    @NeuM said:
    Made a quick Dagger experiment with some patches I made today. This is one fun synth that makes creating interesting sounds fast and easy. Everything except for the drums are Dagger and I added a few effects on some of the tracks.

    You should continue work on it and expand it - sounds pretty good, but maybe on the short side.

    Thanks. This was just a test to see how easy it would be to get together some usable sounds and put them in a song snippet. I'll definitely be using this for other work. The sounds are phenomenal, in my opinion and I created more than 30 patches today.

  • craftycuratecraftycurate
    edited August 2023

    @Samu said:

    @ecou said:
    Is there a manual ? How’s the LFO work ?

    It's easy enough to 'get' while tweaking really.

    Best way to 'explore' Dagger is NOT by reading a manual but by tweaking it.

    Cheers!

    I can’t imagine the OP was suggesting that it’s manual reading OR tweaking? (I.e. false dichotomy)

    Informed tweaking is usually more fruitful than tweaking alone … how is less information going to help us get to grips with anything?

  • LeftyChrisLeftyChris
    edited August 2023

    I’m glad to see BeepStreet is still making synths! The original Sunrizer was the first iOS synth I got, along with the original Magellan. It must have been around 2012.

    I couldn’t believe I could get sounds like that out of an iPhone. I’m looking forward to trying Dagger.

  • oat_phippsoat_phipps
    edited August 2023

    @craftycurate said:

    @Samu said:

    @ecou said:
    Is there a manual ? How’s the LFO work ?

    It's easy enough to 'get' while tweaking really.

    Best way to 'explore' Dagger is NOT by reading a manual but by tweaking it.

    Cheers!

    I can’t imagine the OP was suggesting that it’s manual reading OR tweaking? (I.e. false dichotomy)

    Informed tweaking is usually more fruitful than tweaking alone … how is less information going to help us get to grips with anything?

    You don’t always need to come to grips with everything. Just go with the flow man. I hate to sound like a hippie, but there it is. Gotta find a way to activate your zen zone.

  • craftycuratecraftycurate

    @oat_phipps said:

    @craftycurate said:

    @Samu said:

    @ecou said:
    Is there a manual ? How’s the LFO work ?

    It's easy enough to 'get' while tweaking really.

    Best way to 'explore' Dagger is NOT by reading a manual but by tweaking it.

    Cheers!

    I can’t imagine the OP was suggesting that it’s manual reading OR tweaking? (I.e. false dichotomy)

    Informed tweaking is usually more fruitful than tweaking alone … how is less information going to help us get to grips with anything?

    You don’t always need to come to grips with everything. Just go with the flow man. I hate to sound like a hippie, but there it is. Gotta find a way to activate your zen zone.

    Nah, I like to come to grips with everything. I also like to flow. There I go again, busting out of other people’s boxes 😬

  • GavinskiGavinski

    @craftycurate said:

    @oat_phipps said:

    @craftycurate said:

    @Samu said:

    @ecou said:
    Is there a manual ? How’s the LFO work ?

    It's easy enough to 'get' while tweaking really.

    Best way to 'explore' Dagger is NOT by reading a manual but by tweaking it.

    Cheers!

    I can’t imagine the OP was suggesting that it’s manual reading OR tweaking? (I.e. false dichotomy)

    Informed tweaking is usually more fruitful than tweaking alone … how is less information going to help us get to grips with anything?

    You don’t always need to come to grips with everything. Just go with the flow man. I hate to sound like a hippie, but there it is. Gotta find a way to activate your zen zone.

    Nah, I like to come to grips with everything. I also like to flow. There I go again, busting out of other people’s boxes 😬

    Agreed, every app needs a manual. I thought there is one for this, no?

  • HotStrangeHotStrange

    @rs2000 said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @NeuM said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @NeuM said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @NeuM said:

    @HotStrange said:
    Money is tight this week so both this and Super VHS are waiting until next week. I’m stoked though, it sounds and looks AMAZING!

    Shout out to @giku_beepstreet for being one of the best devs on iOS full stop. Every app is a classic.

    I don’t really have the money sitting around to buy synths/effects right now either, but i got this one. I’m gonna feel this when the bill comes around.

    How are you liking it so far? I’m contemplating going ahead and getting it too 😂

    I actually like it quite a lot. I think there are some performance and UI issues which need to be fixed (which I listed earlier), but I'm really enjoying it so far.

    Thanks! I’m a big Beepstreet fan so I’m sure I’ll love it. Sunrizer is a top 5 synth for me I think.

    Love Sunrizer, but Zeeon is actually my favorite synth of theirs and Dagger is also just nice and straightforward.

    Oh really? I love Zeeon for its simplicity and sound but Sunrizer is a bit more up my street, both are fantastic though. I love considered getting GSIs Krill synth but have held off due to its similarities with Zeeon. Same features for the most part but Krill has a little less modulation (I think it’s LFO are pre-routed and can’t be changed)

    Anyways, Dagger looks pretty unique. The filter section is super cool. Can it be used as an effect?

    It's also about the sounds. It does sound unique. And you can't say that very often about new synths ;)

    It definitely sounds very unique. Can’t wait to get paid so I can finally dive into it myself.

  • NeuMNeuM

    Another bit of playing around with Dagger on two of the tracks in this very short piece:

  • LuxthorLuxthor

    @gregsmith said:

    @gregsmith said:

    @giku_beepstreet said:

    @gregsmith said:
    Like when I saw combustor, I wanna see a Drambo reskin with these knobs 🤤

    It doesn’t work for more complex interfaces, large number of smaller knobs. It gets overwhelming

    Ah ok, fair enough 👍

    I know, I know, you said no. But I couldn’t resist doing a mockup…

    This is rough obviously…

    Great job on mockup, love when people express their thoughts visually so we can make clear conclusions on rough ideas. 🤩

    With this mockup, you completely backed up @giku_beepstreet statement, intensifying module colors diminish small connection color circles, even worse, some background now juxtapose connectors ( on ‘midi to cv’ green connector looks like yellow, on ‘euclidean 2’ yellow connector looks like green, and so on).

    Regarding white marks on the knobs, never use 100% white, it burns through eyes. Especially when it is on black bgr. I really dislike this on the Dagger Synth too, better don’t know how it looks like with my astigmatism. 😅

  • gregsmithgregsmith

    @Luxthor said:

    @gregsmith said:

    @gregsmith said:

    @giku_beepstreet said:

    @gregsmith said:
    Like when I saw combustor, I wanna see a Drambo reskin with these knobs 🤤

    It doesn’t work for more complex interfaces, large number of smaller knobs. It gets overwhelming

    Ah ok, fair enough 👍

    I know, I know, you said no. But I couldn’t resist doing a mockup…

    This is rough obviously…

    Great job on mockup, love when people express their thoughts visually so we can make clear conclusions on rough ideas. 🤩

    With this mockup, you completely backed up @giku_beepstreet statement, intensifying module colors diminish small connection color circles, even worse, some background now juxtapose connectors ( on ‘midi to cv’ green connector looks like yellow, on ‘euclidean 2’ yellow connector looks like green, and so on).

    Regarding white marks on the knobs, never use 100% white, it burns through eyes. Especially when it is on black bgr. I really dislike this on the Dagger Synth too, better don’t know how it looks like with my astigmatism. 😅

    I dunno, I kinda like it. All I did was copy paste the knobs from Dagger, added some shadows and sloppily changed the background colours in procreate, which messed with the connector colours indiscriminately too, which is why they’ve shifted. Connector colours could be sorted with a black stroke around them.

    Still, not my app, and to each their own. But I would definitely switch to this skin if it was available. I’ve never really liked how Drambo modules look, and instantly fell in love with the look and feel of combustor.

    I’m with you on the 100% white too - I have astigmatism in both eyes 😂

  • KrupaKrupa

    @gregsmith said:

    @Luxthor said:

    @gregsmith said:

    @gregsmith said:

    @giku_beepstreet said:

    @gregsmith said:
    Like when I saw combustor, I wanna see a Drambo reskin with these knobs 🤤

    It doesn’t work for more complex interfaces, large number of smaller knobs. It gets overwhelming

    Ah ok, fair enough 👍

    I know, I know, you said no. But I couldn’t resist doing a mockup…

    This is rough obviously…

    Great job on mockup, love when people express their thoughts visually so we can make clear conclusions on rough ideas. 🤩

    With this mockup, you completely backed up @giku_beepstreet statement, intensifying module colors diminish small connection color circles, even worse, some background now juxtapose connectors ( on ‘midi to cv’ green connector looks like yellow, on ‘euclidean 2’ yellow connector looks like green, and so on).

    Regarding white marks on the knobs, never use 100% white, it burns through eyes. Especially when it is on black bgr. I really dislike this on the Dagger Synth too, better don’t know how it looks like with my astigmatism. 😅

    I dunno, I kinda like it. All I did was copy paste the knobs from Dagger, added some shadows and sloppily changed the background colours in procreate, which messed with the connector colours indiscriminately too, which is why they’ve shifted. Connector colours could be sorted with a black stroke around them.

    Still, not my app, and to each their own. But I would definitely switch to this skin if it was available. I’ve never really liked how Drambo modules look, and instantly fell in love with the look and feel of combustor.

    I’m with you on the 100% white too - I have astigmatism in both eyes 😂

    Nice, I like the look of this too, I really struggle with the connection colours anyway, they might work better for me if they were almost day glo, but it always takes a few back and forth glances to establish, and then I’m never sure anyway and often end up tapping and checking directly…

  • sigma79sigma79

    I got a coroidal neo vascularisation, tecently and astigmatism ( about a + 9.00 ) prescription.

    If I lost my glasses during the apocolypse. I may as well just sit in a gutter, saying the end is nigh.

    The neo warping is probably how your eye deals with light. Like eyes in general.

    Had to refund a load of synths.

    Kept dagger and hilda.

    I think bland monocrome is best with some colour as needed. As a DAW.

    An app can be any single colour with black knobs.

    Might just be me but having a multi coloured cockpit in a plane isnt ideal.

    As a painting its nice

    but not when your brain has to deal with technicalities.

    Especially if you move modules around.

    Why did you not decide to give a module a colour instead of different colours for the same module?

  • sigma79sigma79
    edited August 2023

    If the euclidean were alocated a colour. A reverb alocated a colour.

    You would associate colour with a module.

    Cool effort though.

  • dendydendy
    edited August 2023

    @gregsmith said:

    @gregsmith said:

    @giku_beepstreet said:

    @gregsmith said:
    Like when I saw combustor, I wanna see a Drambo reskin with these knobs 🤤

    It doesn’t work for more complex interfaces, large number of smaller knobs. It gets overwhelming

    Ah ok, fair enough 👍

    I know, I know, you said no. But I couldn’t resist doing a mockup…

    This is rough obviously…

    Absolutely LOVE this .. it would maybe even drag me back to playing with Drambo again :) Fantastic !

    This plus visible cables for connections 😇 I know it’s just dream, but .. man can dream ..

  • sigma79sigma79

    When I decorate my room.

    Its always multi coloured.

    Never monochrome or matching colours.

  • R_2R_2

    @gregsmith said:
    I’ve never really liked how Drambo modules look, and instantly fell in love with the look and feel of combustor.

    +1

  • sigma79sigma79
    edited August 2023

    Could work for synth building though. If a module is a defined colour but I just host auv3 and effects.

    It would be weird if making synths were better with coloured modules but hosting is better as it is now.

    You would probably just leave as is now because theres a picture window for the different auv3s.

    Could it work as a multicolour for synth building but how it is now for hosting ?

  • LuxthorLuxthor

    Why do only people who don’t use Drambo want to change that ingeniously crafted GUI design? No cables and how Drambo connect modules are a unique and fantastic solution. We already have miRack, please don’t make Drambo to be miCRack 2.

    I understand for old people like @dendy, 😉 he used to work with cables in sparsely lighted rooms without internet connection and espresso coffee. But I don't understand young modern ones.

    BTW, I don’t blame anyone, after all, I’m the guy who wears sandals with socks in the summer. 🤪

  • LuxthorLuxthor

    @sigma79 said:
    I got a coroidal neo vascularisation, tecently and astigmatism ( about a + 9.00 ) prescription.

    That’s a bummer, I sympathize with you. Your time with the iPad is everything but easy.

    Why did you not decide to give a module a colour instead of different colours for the same module?

    Different colors per every module is a must because of the connection process.

  • rvrrvr

    That must be a joke about cables. Regarding dagger - hell knows but it seems the first software synth (for my hearing) that actually sounds like hardware 303 in terms of punch. Especially when you drive it heavily with distortion. Wow

  • PoppadocrockPoppadocrock

    I’ve heard a few demos, but I’m curious what people think Dagger Synths strengths are in terms of types of sounds? Basses/Leads, or can it do pads, keys, plucks, etc just as well?

    I guess I’m asking what types of sounds is Dagger Synth really good at making?

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