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Made a multi ipad setup. About to unbox another ipad ( without even testing workflow )
Even not opening/returning and also selling most recent. Can get an air 5
thats blind faith
It has to a clip based system ( Drambo has to work and be forever )
Otherwise. Should have bought an ipad pro.
To use any DAW.
Should I just unbox the other. Am I really going to sequence noises between beats or just a sample here or there.
It will probably sound gash also.
A sound overload.
Forgot what thread were about. How rude but
An ipad pro would be better. I gain nothing but routing apps like dual mononoke, thermo, shoom etc via screen ( aum ) to Drambo. Using an ec4 between ipads. Then reciever host uses effects like specral or any as to not need to keep mapping and the modular daw be on 3 screens. Sick but probably not worth not having an ipad pro ( and any DAW )
but if it all works out. Then its fine. A bonus setup.
The question were. Do you think 3 x ipad 9. 9 gb ram available ( on seperate ipads ) Is more powerful than an ipad pro m2? Even if the pro say uses 12gb ram?
Id have to recommend an air or pro. If you can afford.
The only problem with it is no audio tracks (can be solved with multitrack recorder or exporting to garage band) and auv3 parameter automation.
If you can make music without that it is a very solid daw.
Ok man,
I’m serious…give up the goods…
What are the features of nanostudio 2 that you believe nothing will ever beat?
This can also be really informative for people who want to try it…so no overpacking please
Now here’s why I don’t like it.
1. No audio tracks… I won’t even consider this, because I use a lot of live instruments and vocals in my tracks…
2. Automation…yea it’s not there for 3rd party another HUGE killer for MY workflow
3. Like Zenbeats I find the interface too steppy to move around…it’s really just something you have to be a fan of and use a lot to be efficient on…let me for instance compare it to elektron devices…you will have to adjust to how it does things vs how you do things…mostly.
4. The drum machine in zenbeats has never been very good in my opinion…I guess as a pad controller for sample one shots it’s okay…but there is no sample chopping and extensive editing…so again…kills my workflow to pieces. If you are coming from a hiphop background this is not gonna cut it…see what I did there? This is why Logic Pro just fits to me so much better, plus many other reasons as well.
Those are 4 of the biggies that I dont like…
Here’s my likes
If the old Eden synth was stand alone and auv3 I’d buy that immediately as well…as that synth just sounded great to me.
Notice that for ME, the cons exceed the pros
At the end of the day… the prizes to me are Obsidian and Eden. Break em out…make em plugs, and sell em to us. One can dream.
The UX / UI was an instant hit for me. Within just a couple hours I found myself feeling like I completely got it and was flying around adjusting the mix on the fly getting results that I really liked in the process. The only thing that felt a bit clunky is I could not play on a keyboard while adjusting fx parameters and had to set up a loop first. Aside from that the UI instantly clicked for me. BM3 was more of the slow burn you describe where I had to spend extra time for it to grow on me to be efficient with it but with NS2 just about everything in the interface felt made for me.
I do see that a lot in posts and have no doubts that it really does click for many people…I even see zenbeats get similar review…but those two are just not that same thing for me…. I don’t know what it is exactly that I just can’t gel with…it’s an overall feel for me. The missing features really dig in to be aggravations as well. I will always have to move my work from there to another app to finish a project.
In closing, I will also say there is no better Daw theoretically for my music than Ableton live…in practice I hate Ableton live and can’t stand it period…to me I’d rather use hardware if that is all a computer had to offer. In this instance it’s not at all a quality, ability, or power situation…it’s the horrid ugly confusingly flat everything looks the same interface…ugh.
I mean we can fall in love and maybe even marry a utilitarian partner…but are they desirable? Do you enjoy their company, or only their fruits?
No one has stated “nothing will ever beat.” dendy’s observation that it seems like there will never be anything that will replace NS2, and that is an opinion that many share. The fans of NS2 consistently report that the UI/UX enables them to actually complete songs, and more of them, than in any other app. That experience is what nothing else beats. For now. 5-10 years from now…? Who knows. But for now, NS2 is uncluttered and doesn’t get in the way of composing/sequencing electronic music.
If a musician plays an instrument that needs to be recorded to audio, it can be done in NS2, but that is not what NS2 is designed to do and there are other apps that would be better suited to that audio tracks environment. For me the audio workarounds are worth it to take arvantade of the NS2 experience. If someone is more experienced with loop-based creation, NS2 is not really designed for that and again there are other apps better suited than NS2. The reason for threads like this is so that new users can discern the pros & cons of various apps and make informed decisions. I have bought a lot of DAWs that I couldn’t click with, but for me NS2 is the best option currently available.
IMHO, If you do not use audio tracks, only write "synth type music", use basic sampling and don't need chopping, prefer to write your own midi parts, and want an all in one solution, you'd be super hard pressed to beat NS2. I've heard people write all sorts of genre's in NS2 and it's fully capable of it. The only AU's I will use with it now are a couple of the Tonebooster plugs (multi band compressor and morphit for headphones) because they are both available on iPhone and iPad, everything else I do inside of NS2 and I'm happy as a lark. My style of music is fairly diverse, and I've been more than happy with NS2. Here's an example...
I've been workin on this one song since the pandemic only on my iPhone 11 and only when I'm standing in line somewhere. As soon as I get out of line, I stop. I'm almost done, but I've got to buy some more coffee to get there
Then I'll just swing it over to my iPad NS2 and be ready to go.
While it does not have AUv3 fx automation you can send midi to AUv3 fx like Effectrix and Turnado, which is quite useful and helps fill the glitchy void that NS2 internal fx do not satisfy. If it did not have this then NS2 would not have gone as far for me as it did.
@MrSmileZ
Ok, you asked for it, i will try keep it as short as possible
1/ probably most important aspect for me -the way how tracks are structured.
Normal tracks with instruments, group tracks, send tracks - they are no different types of track with their own limitations like basically in all orher ios/desktop daws except of Reaper - there is just general track and it's up to you how you use it.. You can send anything (both audio and midi) into any other track. You can use track with instrument on it also as send target for any other number of tracks ... You can create groups, then groups of groups, then groups of broups of groups.. you can send audio ans midi literally everywhere.
And all this with totally simple intuitive super streamlined and fast interface.
Here simple example what i mean.
This is my usual workflow example:
this is what i normally do.. i build various routings and shape sound with them.. here i created main send track which i then splited to 3 paralel subtracks which are then mixed together .. at the end everything is sidechained by kick..
This is just how i work. No other DAW allows me such level of freedom, and such easy way how to reorganize and reroute tracks.
2/ drag handles
Also visible in my workflow example above.. transpose handles, note left/right shift handles, velocity absolute (right) and scaling (left) handles
3/ automation
How easy i can edit automation. Thia is more about how is UI implemented than about some unique feature. It's all just soo smooth. Automation is for me absolutely crucial, i use it A LOT. I love how i can have on same track ndependent clip with notes ans idependent clips with automations and move/copy them on timeline independently.
4/ audio editor
simple, with minimal set of basic features but fantastic fast for basic editing of samples.. For somebody it may look too mimimalistic lacking more advanced features but for me it's perfect, again it 's more about UI than about some particular feature..
5/ of course Obsidian,but also Slate and build in FXs
FXs are often overlooked bit they sound fantastic and they are brutally efficient so i can throw enormous amount of them on tracks without caring about CPU.
Slate is for me just perfect drum sampler. I love i can layer sounds on pad, i can shape them directly on pads with simple envelopes, i jave 4 internal FX busses there - everything perfeclty balanced, not too overcomplicated, just exact list of features i need to build drums. Details like being able to copy i dividual pads or whole kit from one Slate instance to other
And regarding Obsidian, i can talk hours about many particular detaila which i like but that is i think not necessary. I would just hilight my few favourites - spectral looping (ability to make perfect loop from any audio by extracting spectral characteristics of that audio and generating loop from it), auto loading/creating sample zones from file names, ability to omodulate sample start and loop points, ability to modulate oscillators phase start, ability to save "sub-presets" - like save envelopes or lfos block as preset and reload it from withing other instance of obsidian.. etc etc etc
There is lot more small details but trying keep this short. It 's not just about what features are there but HOW they are implemeted, how they al togeter are makong perfectly working enviroment, fast, with almost any screen pr part of app available with nust one max two taps. No annoying animations (lookimg at you logic), just tap a instant jump where i want to go.
There are things i am missing and just accepted i never get them:
That's probably all. Don't need audio tracks. Don't need record midifx to sequencer. Don't need automation of AUfxs.
All i need is one perfectly, like clockwork working UI, intuitive, fast, not crowded with controls, optimised for touch screen - even for small one on iPhone (which i use very often). And something which just doesn't crash (when we thake out of equation AU's)
That is interesting, I been doing the exact same thing but in Caustic on my Android phone. But I include anywhere I wait. Doctor, dentist ect.. ect..
I just listen to your tune. I really love it. If that does not sell NS2, nothing will.
Off to listen to more of your music.
Yeah, this is also great track:
Now this, this is what I commend! Thanks for the demos!
They will help people to better make a choice, and I think they’ll vastly speak more details into why you really love NS2. I totally understand now…
The things you would have liked to had would have been great additions.
I now know 100% that NS2 isn’t for me at this point, but I seen some things in your videos that I never tried out.
It nearly made me re-download it hahaha… I’m even sad now that it may not ever go further. That kinda bums me out some.
I have to have audio tracks and auv3 automation…chopping could have been thru koala…
But those two things really are heavy in my personal workflow. So even though the track flexibility is super nice…it’s missing so much for me to get thru a typical song.
thank you for answering my question, Dendy.
I hope your answers/videos help others as well!
You are kinda growin on me lmao
Cheers!
Well @dendy certainly has explained everything thoroughly with no stone left unturned. 😳 Definitely the goto reply for anyone wondering what NS2's workflow is like and if it is the right app for them.
Hah sorry for that
@dendy I wonder if Matt would one day complete the list you suggest, add audio tracks and some more IAP's, and create NS3. I for one would pay a premium for this and I'm pretty sure quite a few others would too. I know he's been offered money to continue development of NS and I'm convinced it would blow most DAWs out of the water. It does already. I find it so easy to use and its simplicity is one of its main selling points.
It's such a shame NS2 didn't reach the heights of its predecessor in sales terms. The iOS music community lost one of its true masters of app creation.
This is the "spectral looping" feature in Obsidian - really great for creating long ambient textures/pads from any kind of material which isn't normally properly loopable ...
This easy way how to work with layers in slate, and how to define layer fades is just brilliant. I know there are probably other more powerful samplers on iOS, but this is ideal balance of number of features and easy to use ui i need for drums.
When i started spamming with mini videos 🤣, here something which may help, and it is not that obvious - By default all oscillators (including sampler) plays every voice phase synced.. which adds a bit "chorus" vibe to the unison which is sometimes not wanted effect. Here example how this can be solved with "rand" mod source which basically add random value for every new voice. Note that with normal oscillator i modulate "phase" parameter but for sampler "sample start" - that is because for sample playback "phase" is not defined, you need shift sample stsrt instead to miñimalise phasiv effect between voices
Unfortunately i think there is near to zero chance this happens, he just needed to move on forward in his life (and i totally accepting and understanding that considering all reasons he had for that, even through i would probably do some things differently) ... But also I need to add I am not in contact with him anymore for significant time, so really can't tell what are his plans for future :-D So take me now like normal user like everybody else, with any additional secret knowledge about what's going on
Amusing that in an epic post @dendy writes, “… but trying keep this short.”
🤣😂 Nice!
Great post too!
Well, it was short .. I can talk about NS for hours, but most of the audience would probably fall asleep or go on a long coffee break :-D
I guess i like NS and all it's aspects more than Matt ever did
I wonder how many people on here would buy obsidian as an AUv3 for a chunky price? I would.
While I totally understand the situation, it’s so sad to let this masterpiece wasted in the long run.
How about handing over the code to a developer who has the skills, the knowledge to further develop it? They could agree on some sort of revenue share model.
Revenue is the problem in the iOS ecosystem. If he was making boats of money he would no have quit. Neither would the Caustic développer and many others.
well, i say it like this : Money aren’t always alpha and omega. Yup, they are important at some degree but not like only factor or most inportant factor.
Absolutely! You combine low money with demanding customers and maybe a wife who is tired of having a husband spend all his time for no return. Dwindling health and morale. Add to that the curve balls that life like to throw at us.
Pretty accurate. All that combined is perfect road to total burnout ..